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109年到112年，現在已經到期了，請問4年來總預算為多少？有哪幾個醫學中心和ICT的廠商媒合組成9個整合型的跨域成熟團隊？是否達到預期目標？"],["林副主任委員敏聰：好，細節我們請處長說明。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，請說。"],["楊處長台鴻：目前的目標其實是達成地非常好的，因為基本上醫學中心跟ICT廠商都合作得非常好，而且事實上我們在未來4年的期程還有1個新的計畫，目前正在call案當中。"],["羅委員廷瑋：那4年來總預算有多少？"],["楊處長台鴻：過去的4年是嗎？"],["羅委員廷瑋：對。"],["楊處長台鴻：可能有四億多，因為我……"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，你可以稍微提出有幾個醫學中心和ICT廠商媒合嗎？"],["楊處長台鴻：幾個醫學中心是不是？"],["羅委員廷瑋：對。"],["許處長增如：報告委員，我們有2支計畫，1支是生科處，它是跨醫院合作的驗證；產學處有個智慧醫療產學聯盟，因為我們大概是從111年開始執行的，比方像臺大跟廣達。另外還有中國醫跟長佳智能，他們共同發展一些產品的驗證，希望往海外市場拓展，能夠在海外落地。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，另外，我想請問你，健康大數據永續平台計畫建置國家級的友善醫療，以生醫資料來做一個平台，建置轉譯導向的生醫巨量資料、應用生醫資料庫開發新穎生物標記及疾病風險評估模式。本席想請問，健康大數據的永續平台計畫，計畫期程也是110年到113年，即將到期，請問4年來的總預算為多少？"],["林副主任委員敏聰：應該是差不多。"],["羅委員廷瑋：差不多嗎？已經完成四分之三的計畫，是否可以達到預期目標？"],["楊處長台鴻：這支計畫可能比較多，大概有8億左右。"],["羅委員廷瑋：8億左右，那不是差不多，是double耶！"],["楊處長台鴻：有稍微多一點。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，沒關係，4億變8億也不是差不多或多一點啦！沒關係。"],["林副主任委員敏聰：剛剛那個4億如果包含產學處的話，事實上scale有稍微大一點。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，目前已經完成四分之三的計畫，請問一下有沒有達到預期目標？"],["林副主任委員敏聰：我想具體的成果，請處長稍微說明一下。"],["羅委員廷瑋：不好意思，您說什麼？"],["楊處長台鴻：這個計畫分成兩塊，一個是大數據，收資料，我們預計4年會收8,000筆實際的資料。我們按步驟，每年大概2,000、2,000、2,000，完全按照步驟。另外有一個是生物標記，剛剛委員講的生物標記，我們英文叫biomarker。"],["羅委員廷瑋：對。"],["楊處長台鴻：目前這支計畫基本上來講進度是超前的，有很多的biomarker事實上都已經快要可以落地了，以上，謝謝。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，再來是防疫科學研究發展及量能的一個建置計畫，這項計畫的期程是從哪一年開始，哪一年結束？"],["楊處長台鴻：防疫這支計畫很明顯是從疫情那年開始的，應該是到明年結束。"],["羅委員廷瑋：明年結束？"],["楊處長台鴻：對。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，總預算為多少？"],["楊處長台鴻：這個預算應該差不多6億左右。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，那內文既然說國科會長期耕耘新興感染症的研究，奠定防疫基礎，自109年嚴重特殊傳染性肺炎（COVID-19）疫情爆發，支援國內防疫重要議題，在檢疫、治療、預防、公衛流病、社會影響、場域驗證與國際合作等面向進行全方位的研究，簡單地說，萬一下一次來一個類似COVID-19的疫情，國科會能夠提供什麼給相關部門來進行有效的全面防衛？"],["楊處長台鴻：基本上，這個任務跟衛福部理論上應該是有部分會重疊，國科會的角度就是從科學研發，我們希望用科學的方法解決下一個疫情來所要面臨的問題，所以事實上我們跟很多醫院都有在做這方面的一個……"],["羅委員廷瑋：所以這個計畫你目前所籌備的相關資料，有信心在下一次如果遇到COVID-19的時候，是可以有效地提供更好的數據嗎？"],["楊處長台鴻：如果委員說下次還是COVID-19，我可以給你保證一定沒問題。"],["羅委員廷瑋：類似，但是是新興的病毒。"],["楊處長台鴻：新興感染症的種類如果真的是很多的話……"],["羅委員廷瑋：我知道，千變萬化，但是因為之前COVID-19的一個防範機制，我想這些都是演變出我們需要的一些科學數據，或者是我們的經驗，下一次病毒演變的時候，可以作為最好的防範前提嘛！"],["林副主任委員敏聰：跟委員報告，其實這次COVID-19很多研究的能量基礎，也跟上次SARS所累積出來的肺部非典型部分的感染，事實上有很大的基礎研究能量，所以我們不能臨時找人，就是事實上它已經有這個連續，這是目前COVID-19得了研究成果，我們也希望長期能夠作為未來如果有新興的疾病，本身也能夠幫忙支持，這是我們目前國科會的規劃。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，當然我們希望這些疫情的亂象不要再度地發生，但是我們希望國科會因為有這些經驗，可以給我們很大的參考。"],["林副主任委員敏聰：是，謝謝。"],["羅委員廷瑋：最後我想講就是太空中心，因為立法院已經三讀太空發展法，我想國際強權也作為太空的先行者，主宰了大部分的市場跟組織，臺灣現在才要起步，我們很擔心會越來越萎縮的情況之下，那在這樣子的情況，我們當然還是不能嫌晚嘛！有做就是好事，2023年太空中心成立，國人對它的盼望也很高，請問火箭發射場的進度為何？選址在哪？"],["林副主任委員敏聰：具體進度請我們……"],["陳處長國樑：跟委員報告，火箭發射場目前第一次委員會已經開過了，它分三個階段，第一個階段是要瞭解訂定發射場址的條件；第二個，跟各相關的地方單位談之後，確定所謂的候選場址；第三階段才會決定場址。"],["羅委員廷瑋：好，時間有限，沒辦法論述太久，但是我想韓、日、中國大陸、印度都有自己的發射場，也有成功，臺灣什麼時候可以在自己的國家發射火箭上太空？這是我們的期許，我想到現在只有在討論條件，還沒有實際的選址，我們希望加快速度，這方面可以努力嗎？比如說你的第二次會議可不可以快一點？"],["余副主任憲政：我們會針對選址的部分儘快做處理。"],["羅委員廷瑋：每分每秒都在流逝，都在跟國際競爭，我們希望這速度可以快一點，謝謝。"],["林副主任委員敏聰：是，我們加快速度。"],["主席：謝謝羅廷瑋委員。","我們再來請陳培瑜委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":386,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-22-7","speakers":["林宜瑾","洪孟楷","柯志恩","吳沛憶","羅廷瑋","陳培瑜","葛如鈞","郭昱晴","葉元之","陳秀寳","張雅琳","吳春城","萬美玲","范雲","鄭天財Sra 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00:02:09,900\n國內的人包括產業跟各方面他不只是限制他也有創新所以我們要在中間限制跟創新當中找到一個適當的在台灣的這一條那這條線是需要溝通的所以我們事實上在年底這個部分事實上已經盡量加快速度了我們盡量加快速度如果能夠提早那我們當然是會提早跟那個我想給自己一個目標盡量加快哪怕是幾個月\n\n7\n00:02:11,741 --> 00:02:35,332\n不管是國外我們為了一些AI的一些產業導致一些產業開始在做罷工到現在我們對於AI的一些影像我們都希望能夠透過AI來做一些防範治理我想科技的發展來看很多事情都已經被AI取代未來很多的類別都有可能被淘汰所以我想法治治理的這個過程當中我們有更必要的一個迅速好不好\n\n8\n00:02:37,725 --> 00:02:52,547\n好那副主委國科會的一個前身是科技部之前有執行科技醫療相關的一個計畫而在報告的第9頁有提到現階相段有一個相關計畫包含臨床資料庫\n\n9\n00:02:53,408 --> 00:03:13,515\n還有AI之跨領域的開發及價值應用．以臨床需求作為出發．主導醫學中心ICT的一個廠商媒合．組成9個整合性的跨域成熟團隊．本席想請問．像這個臨床資料庫與AI之領域．跨領域的一個價值應用．計劃其程是109年到112年．\n\n10\n00:03:16,057 --> 00:03:26,553\n現在已經到期了,請問4年來總預算為多少?由哪幾個醫學中心和ICT的廠商媒合組成9個整合型的跨域成熟團隊,是否達到預期目標?\n\n11\n00:03:32,708 --> 00:04:00,844\n目前的目標其實是非常好的因為基本上醫學中心跟ICT廠商都合作的非常的好而且事實上我們在未來4年還有一個新的期程的計畫目前正在這個扣案當中那4年來總預算多少過去的4年是吧對應該是可能有4億多因為我你可以好那你可以稍微提出幾個醫學中心和ICT廠商媒合嗎幾個醫學中心是吧對\n\n12\n00:04:02,305 --> 00:04:28,846\n產學處有沒有對,我們有兩支計畫對,我們有兩支計畫報告委員一支是那個生科處他是跨醫院合作的驗證那產學處有個智慧醫療產學聯盟因為我們是大概111年開始執行的那主要是像比方台大跟廣達那另外還有這個中國醫跟長嘉智能然後他們共同發展一些產品的驗證那希望往海外市場拓展然後能夠海外落地\n\n13\n00:04:30,882 --> 00:04:57,563\n好那另外一個我想跟你請問一下健康大數據永續平台計畫建置國家級的友善醫療生醫治療來做一個平台建置轉譯導向的生醫劇量資料應用生醫資料庫開發身影生物標記及疾病風險評估模式本期想請問健康大數據的永續平台計畫\n\n14\n00:05:00,073 --> 00:05:16,355\n計劃期程也是110年到113年即將到期請問4年來的總預算為多少?應該是差不多差不多嗎?已經完成了四分之三的計劃是否可以達到預期目標?這支計劃可能比較多應該有大概8億左右8億左右那不是差不多那是double稍微多一點好沒關係\n\n15\n00:05:18,938 --> 00:05:30,510\n4億變8億也不是差不多或多一點沒關係其實剛剛那個4億其實是有包含如果包含產期數的話事實上scale稍微大一點好那已經完成3的一個計畫請問一下有沒有達到預期目標\n\n16\n00:05:31,536 --> 00:05:31,676\n主席\n\n17\n00:06:02,376 --> 00:06:02,557\n綜藝範圍多少?\n\n18\n00:06:23,159 --> 00:06:38,577\n這個預算應該差不多6億左右吧好那內文竟然說國科會長期耕耘新興感染的一個研究證一個研發研究電定防疫基礎自109年的嚴重特殊傳染COVID-19疫情爆發支援國內\n\n19\n00:06:39,958 --> 00:06:59,912\n防疫的一個重要議題簡易治療預防公衛的流病以及社會影響場域的一個驗證國際合作我想做全方面的一個研究簡單的說萬一下一次來一個類似的COVID-19的一個疫情國科會能夠提供什麼給相關部門來進行有效的全面防衛\n\n20\n00:07:01,874 --> 00:07:27,361\n基本上這個任務跟衛福部是有部分應該理論上會重疊國科會的角度就是從科學研發我們希望用科學的方法來解決下一個疫情所要面臨的問題所以事實上我們跟很多醫院都有在做這方面的一個所以這個計畫你目前所籌備的相關資料有信心在下一次如果遇到COVID-19的時候是可以有效的提供\n\n21\n00:07:29,195 --> 00:07:51,917\n如果我是說下次還是COVID-19我可以跟你保證一定沒問題類似但是是新型的病毒新型感染症的種類如果真的是很多的話我知道千變萬化但是我們因為之前這一次的COVID-19的一個防範機制我想這些都是演變出我們需要的一些科學數據或者是我們的經驗來做下一次的病毒演變的時候可以作為最好的防範潛艇\n\n22\n00:07:53,258 --> 00:08:20,236\n跟委員報告其實這次COVID-19的很多研究的能量基礎也跟上次SARS所累積出來的這個肺部的這個這個這個事實上非典型的這個部分的感染事實上有很大的這個研究基礎研究能量所以我們不能臨時找人就是事實上它已經有這個連續讓我們未來其實在目前這次COVID-19得了研究成果我們也希望長期的能夠作為未來若有新興的疾病本身也能夠也能夠能夠幫忙支持這樣子\n\n23\n00:08:20,836 --> 00:08:45,939\n好當然我們希望這些疫情的亂象不要再度的發生但是我們希望國科會因為有這些經驗可以給我們很大的一個參考是謝謝好那最後我想講就是太空中心我想太空中心我們因為立法院已經三讀太空發展法我想國際強權也作為太空的先行者主宰了大部分的一個市場跟組織台灣現在才要起步我們很擔心會越來越萎縮的一個情況之下\n\n24\n00:08:47,040 --> 00:09:03,194\n在這樣子一個情況我們當然還是不能嫌晚有做就是好事那2023年的太空中心成立國連對他的盼望也很高請問火箭發射場的進度為何選址在哪我們具體進度請我們那個你這邊直接講\n\n25\n00:09:06,193 --> 00:09:24,006\n跟委員報告那火箭發射場目前已經第一次的委員會開過了他分三個階段第一個階段是要瞭解那訂定發射場址的條件第二個才會跟這個各相關的這個地方單位談之後呢\n\n26\n00:09:24,766 --> 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來若有新興的疾病本身也能夠也能夠能夠幫忙支持這樣子\n好當然我們希望這些疫情的亂象不要再度的發生但是我們希望國科會因為有這些經驗可以給我們很大的一個參考是謝謝好那最後我想講就是太空中心我想太空中心我們因為立法院已經三讀太空發展法我想國際強權也作為太空的先行者主宰了大部分的一個市場跟組織台灣現在才要起步我們很擔心會越來越萎縮的一個情況之下\n在這樣子一個情況我們當然還是不能嫌晚有做就是好事那2023年的太空中心成立國連對他的盼望也很高請問火箭發射場的進度為何選址在哪我們具體進度請我們那個你這邊直接講\n跟委員報告那火箭發射場目前已經第一次的委員會開過了他分三個階段第一個階段是要瞭解那訂定發射場址的條件第二個才會跟這個各相關的這個地方單位談之後呢\n然後才確定所謂的候選長址第三階段才會決定長址我想時間有限沒辦法論述太久但是我想韓日中國大陸印度都有自己的發射廠也有成功台灣什麼時候可以在自己的國家發射火箭上太空這是我們的期許我想到現在只有在討論條件還沒有實際的一個選址我們希望加快速度這方面可以努力嗎比如說你的第一次會議第二次會議可不可以快一點\n謝謝羅廷瑋委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.869 --> 00:01.790\n羅廷瑋主席林副主委\n\n00:21.584 --> 00:49.057\n委員早安林副主委你好你好謝謝我想今天主委不在那要跟你探討一些事情AI專法的一個進度我想剛剛有委員也在提到這個AI是我們現在非常重要的一個趨勢我們更希望AI能夠在未來再運用在所謂的網路影像尤其是這種暴力或者是兒少關係剝削到的一些影像那\n\n00:50.390 --> 01:08.497\n主委曾經表示AI已經進入到這生活剛開始技術跟產業之外呢事實上理論倫理法治治理才是重點行政院已經有一個深層式AI的一個參考指引但如主委所說倫理法治跟治理才是重點請問AI專法目前的進度\n\n01:09.998 --> 01:10.860\n有機會再提快?\n\n01:25.863 --> 01:44.861\n我們都知道其實歐盟本身從草案到大家社會溝通跟各個領域的溝通其實也花了大概相當久的時間所以我們事實上就覺得說我們現在應該更積極的除了我們這草案的部分之外也應該更積極開始了解比如說以歐盟法案這個部分了解他是讓\n\n01:46.347 --> 02:09.900\n國內的人包括產業跟各方面他不只是限制他也有創新所以我們要在中間限制跟創新當中找到一個適當的在台灣的這一條那這條線是需要溝通的所以我們事實上在年底這個部分事實上已經盡量加快速度了我們盡量加快速度如果能夠提早那我們當然是會提早跟那個我想給自己一個目標盡量加快哪怕是幾個月\n\n02:11.741 --> 02:35.332\n不管是國外我們為了一些AI的一些產業導致一些產業開始在做罷工到現在我們對於AI的一些影像我們都希望能夠透過AI來做一些防範治理我想科技的發展來看很多事情都已經被AI取代未來很多的類別都有可能被淘汰所以我想法治治理的這個過程當中我們有更必要的一個迅速好不好\n\n02:37.725 --> 02:52.547\n好那副主委國科會的一個前身是科技部之前有執行科技醫療相關的一個計畫而在報告的第9頁有提到現階相段有一個相關計畫包含臨床資料庫\n\n02:53.408 --> 03:13.515\n還有AI之跨領域的開發及價值應用．以臨床需求作為出發．主導醫學中心ICT的一個廠商媒合．組成9個整合性的跨域成熟團隊．本席想請問．像這個臨床資料庫與AI之領域．跨領域的一個價值應用．計劃其程是109年到112年．\n\n03:16.057 --> 03:26.553\n現在已經到期了,請問4年來總預算為多少?由哪幾個醫學中心和ICT的廠商媒合組成9個整合型的跨域成熟團隊,是否達到預期目標?\n\n03:32.708 --> 04:00.844\n目前的目標其實是非常好的因為基本上醫學中心跟ICT廠商都合作的非常的好而且事實上我們在未來4年還有一個新的期程的計畫目前正在這個扣案當中那4年來總預算多少過去的4年是吧對應該是可能有4億多因為我你可以好那你可以稍微提出幾個醫學中心和ICT廠商媒合嗎幾個醫學中心是吧對\n\n04:02.305 --> 04:28.846\n產學處有沒有對,我們有兩支計畫對,我們有兩支計畫報告委員一支是那個生科處他是跨醫院合作的驗證那產學處有個智慧醫療產學聯盟因為我們是大概111年開始執行的那主要是像比方台大跟廣達那另外還有這個中國醫跟長嘉智能然後他們共同發展一些產品的驗證那希望往海外市場拓展然後能夠海外落地\n\n04:30.882 --> 04:57.563\n好那另外一個我想跟你請問一下健康大數據永續平台計畫建置國家級的友善醫療生醫治療來做一個平台建置轉譯導向的生醫劇量資料應用生醫資料庫開發身影生物標記及疾病風險評估模式本期想請問健康大數據的永續平台計畫\n\n05:00.073 --> 05:16.355\n計劃期程也是110年到113年即將到期請問4年來的總預算為多少?應該是差不多差不多嗎?已經完成了四分之三的計劃是否可以達到預期目標?這支計劃可能比較多應該有大概8億左右8億左右那不是差不多那是double稍微多一點好沒關係\n\n05:18.938 --> 05:30.510\n4億變8億也不是差不多或多一點沒關係其實剛剛那個4億其實是有包含如果包含產期數的話事實上scale稍微大一點好那已經完成3的一個計畫請問一下有沒有達到預期目標\n\n05:31.536 --> 05:31.676\n主席\n\n06:02.376 --> 06:02.557\n綜藝範圍多少?\n\n06:23.159 --> 06:38.577\n這個預算應該差不多6億左右吧好那內文竟然說國科會長期耕耘新興感染的一個研究證一個研發研究電定防疫基礎自109年的嚴重特殊傳染COVID-19疫情爆發支援國內\n\n06:39.958 --> 06:59.912\n防疫的一個重要議題簡易治療預防公衛的流病以及社會影響場域的一個驗證國際合作我想做全方面的一個研究簡單的說萬一下一次來一個類似的COVID-19的一個疫情國科會能夠提供什麼給相關部門來進行有效的全面防衛\n\n07:01.874 --> 07:27.361\n基本上這個任務跟衛福部是有部分應該理論上會重疊國科會的角度就是從科學研發我們希望用科學的方法來解決下一個疫情所要面臨的問題所以事實上我們跟很多醫院都有在做這方面的一個所以這個計畫你目前所籌備的相關資料有信心在下一次如果遇到COVID-19的時候是可以有效的提供\n\n07:29.195 --> 07:51.917\n如果我是說下次還是COVID-19我可以跟你保證一定沒問題類似但是是新型的病毒新型感染症的種類如果真的是很多的話我知道千變萬化但是我們因為之前這一次的COVID-19的一個防範機制我想這些都是演變出我們需要的一些科學數據或者是我們的經驗來做下一次的病毒演變的時候可以作為最好的防範潛艇\n\n07:53.258 --> 08:20.236\n跟委員報告其實這次COVID-19的很多研究的能量基礎也跟上次SARS所累積出來的這個肺部的這個這個這個事實上非典型的這個部分的感染事實上有很大的這個研究基礎研究能量所以我們不能臨時找人就是事實上它已經有這個連續讓我們未來其實在目前這次COVID-19得了研究成果我們也希望長期的能夠作為未來若有新興的疾病本身也能夠也能夠能夠幫忙支持這樣子\n\n08:20.836 --> 08:45.939\n好當然我們希望這些疫情的亂象不要再度的發生但是我們希望國科會因為有這些經驗可以給我們很大的一個參考是謝謝好那最後我想講就是太空中心我想太空中心我們因為立法院已經三讀太空發展法我想國際強權也作為太空的先行者主宰了大部分的一個市場跟組織台灣現在才要起步我們很擔心會越來越萎縮的一個情況之下\n\n08:47.040 --> 09:03.194\n在這樣子一個情況我們當然還是不能嫌晚有做就是好事那2023年的太空中心成立國連對他的盼望也很高請問火箭發射場的進度為何選址在哪我們具體進度請我們那個你這邊直接講\n\n09:06.193 --> 09:24.006\n跟委員報告那火箭發射場目前已經第一次的委員會開過了他分三個階段第一個階段是要瞭解那訂定發射場址的條件第二個才會跟這個各相關的這個地方單位談之後呢\n\n09:24.766 --> 09:53.022\n然後才確定所謂的候選長址第三階段才會決定長址我想時間有限沒辦法論述太久但是我想韓日中國大陸印度都有自己的發射廠也有成功台灣什麼時候可以在自己的國家發射火箭上太空這是我們的期許我想到現在只有在討論條件還沒有實際的一個選址我們希望加快速度這方面可以努力嗎比如說你的第一次會議第二次會議可不可以快一點\n\n09:53.916 --> 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