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00:00:11,194\n感謝主席我請那個內政部長有請林部長謝謝部長好感謝部長對這次花蓮的地震這個災情我們內政部都非常積極來協助地方政府來處理這個災情的部分在這也要把我們部長幫你報告一下我們這次\n\n2\n00:00:33,248 --> 00:00:45,957\n地震,地震發生以外其他地區沒有發生就更嚴重的案件。根據內政部統計資料,佛天山國屋齡超過50年起來有幾百間屋,幾百萬戶,幾百萬戶,雖然經過\n\n3\n00:00:53,842 --> 00:01:11,415\n20年前的921跟這次的震災中沒有發現大規模的災情和損壞但是這個危老房屋耐震能力恐怕沒辦法符合到未來再來這個地震的這個耐震的需求希望我們可以趕快來加強檢測經過這個地震之後\n\n4\n00:01:19,301 --> 00:01:32,211\n我們感覺這個檢測的重要性合作國軍才可以渡過、平安渡過後一刻的這個地點強調我們這個新的財產的信心請問國長,我們當全國我們這個勞務檢測及補償這個重要的進程目前我們內政部有在做補助運動檢測及國軍的這個進程是,來,委員報告\n\n5\n00:01:49,084 --> 00:02:09,480\n這相關的政策及經費現在其實都有我們國土署在一百四百年到一百一十年的時候其實有做過普查那有一部分的民眾還有房屋他們有提出評估的申請那另外也有提出內政部長的申請\n\n6\n00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:37,186\n不過因為這次地震不利我們國土署會再一次的請各縣市針對108年到110年普查的時候有一些這些房子我們會再要求地方政府重新來發通知函提醒這些屋主能夠積極的來提出相關評估或者是補強的申請\n\n7\n00:02:38,376 --> 00:02:41,759\n我們這個補償的申請補助金額上限是45%我們上限45%我們現在有退關到85%有退關到85%退關這樣比較好不然加一個弱勢住戶他們要完成這個過境的訪問可能會比較困難我也希望說我們將對\n\n8\n00:03:04,419 --> 00:03:13,063\n50年以上的我們這個老舊建築物希望我們耐心想辦法做一個檢測還有一項就是要拜託講講這個公共單位地方的公共單位就是我們鄉公所、電公所那裡的他們的公所有可能蓋起來都超過50年了這個國分可能也要請地方政府去盤點一下\n\n9\n00:03:31,632 --> 00:03:43,824\n反點一下,如果有到50年以上的老舊建築物,我們希望我們也是要來做這個內政評估,希望可以,這個內政評估之後,如果有這個威嚇的疑慮,我們想要來做應急的一個方式,看要怎麼改善。」\n\n10\n00:03:53,193 --> 00:04:02,823\n來委員報告專告公有的建築物目前內政部長已經完成超過91%所以這都是這幾年來持續都有在進行剛才你有說到五十年以上來委員稍微說明一下\n\n11\n00:04:10,510 --> 00:04:23,139\n老不一定是危雖然他家有可能二歲多屋齡多但是他不一定是危險或危老我們會優先針對危險的建築物的部分來做處理委員會提請50年以上的委員會來搭檔\n\n12\n00:04:32,025 --> 00:04:42,538\n好,這樣麻煩我們副主席感謝副主席謝謝報告主席我請農糧署副署長農糧署副署長不好意思麻煩請農糧署\n\n13\n00:04:49,912 --> 00:04:56,999\n副處長好,感謝你,我們剛才去投稿看到蒜頭的災害雖然當時應該會影響到我們所有的國分\n\n14\n00:05:05,695 --> 00:05:07,696\n也有災害,是因為氣候變遷的災害。」\n\n15\n00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:27,769\n我們去現場看了那些損害的情形我們有通緝我們這個鄉鎮公所那些損害的程度先來報給我們的管理委員會來負責但是那個時間過到現在都沒有公所報的\n\n16\n00:05:38,001 --> 00:05:53,595\n沒有什麼人補就算是補救就很糟那是局限的就像那個對啊我們看那區那個農民有可能是不知道是企業或是管理層有某種造型所以他那些選擇都會派去這個問題\n\n17\n00:05:54,716 --> 00:06:02,758\n你如果知道蒜頭一分第二五萬塊的本錢現在蒜頭像我跟蔣我分了蔣我分了當我們虎尾我們虎尾我住的地方最好到35塊再去到沿海都一樣是二十幾塊這個過分\n\n18\n00:06:22,445 --> 00:06:34,818\n問題出在哪裡?你怎麼知道?因為過去我們的經驗就像你修行酒這段天氣的關係修行酒過去的經驗就是說三農酒介紹它有比較好啊怎麼會經營的是三農酒介紹又壞\n\n19\n00:06:41,875 --> 00:07:08,451\n這是什麼原因?副署長要怎麼解釋?因為我們國人消費這個蒜頭它就是普遍消費我們今年的蒜頭目前來講大門就是四蒜部份大概在28至35這個段間間因為問題也是有一些部份是進口但是今年進口是比往年還少那我想今年到幾月了?\n\n20\n00:07:08,931 --> 00:07:12,676\n到4月6000多公噸,以往年還少3個月就6000多公噸,以往年還少,我們這蒜頭多少錢?這蒜頭多少錢比台灣還要貴?\n\n21\n00:07:26,295 --> 00:07:38,478\n比大家的介紹更好所以國人會大部分都是使用我們國產的蒜頭為主那我想這個價格因為我們生意也差不多要花錢可能差不多婚姻退休差不多要八、九成的部分啦那部分來說差不多這個介紹是屬於雙人不是很高的但是在歐盟來比是差不多一個穩定的這個介紹對這個合理的這個合理的介紹這個穩定對啦婚姻是以農立憲\n\n22\n00:07:54,341 --> 00:08:10,648\n以農利縣我們的農民是真的非常辛苦兄弟像剛才我們副署長說的我們分明的蒜頭很多的瓶子絕對不會比金融局差一定是比金融局我今天有帶有帶蒜頭來這樣你看得出來倒一個是金融的倒一個是我們台灣的\n\n23\n00:08:24,974 --> 00:08:48,929\n好!阿智你讚!厲害!這正靠的!阿智讚!難怪阿智是我們農民的救星!這樣我們會做的休田農民!這是阿根廷正靠的!這是阿根廷的!這是經營的政委來的!它恆大了,它有發達風存那麼久!這是我們台灣的!我們台灣的經濟也很好!經濟這麼好,居然有技能協會!\n\n24\n00:08:55,032 --> 00:09:02,175\n所以我們統合起來主席我們是在懷疑是管理的問題但是不是管理的問題我們統合起來感覺起來是有可能是比較大的機會是進口的未來打壓到\n\n25\n00:09:10,859 --> 00:09:14,863\n軍託的介紹。」所以在這裏我再複述一件事。既然這個定位、定位進口的未來跟這次要發展得漂亮、發展得好、沒有發芽、沒有歐元都沒有。所以我們是未來當採收期的時候,採收期我們就不要再給進口的未來。\n\n26\n00:09:33,462 --> 00:09:55,650\n好嗎?我們採收期你要給我負責這件事採收期夠我們要給淨靠的這樣好不好?那那個淨靠有一個關稅、一個協定啦協定有三千多檔那我會說但是其他的高關稅對啊所以剛才我們在說的你也在說而已一月到三月就已經淨六千多檔啦\n\n27\n00:09:57,031 --> 00:10:00,952\n已經超過我們觀塑的規格,我們觀塑的規格才三千幾噸而已對啊,我們已經超過它的規格,我們更有高觀塑的依賴,我們就明顯就達到我們軍統的選舉的介紹你看我們的選舉,這麼漂亮、這麼可愛,這一萬聽於第1個,這阿根廷的伴侶\n\n28\n00:10:20,979 --> 00:10:34,484\n這次人的鄉土和鄉土真的敵過阿根廷的眼睛了所以我們軍曬的蒜頭放在那裡我們就要最盡管理來行銷、最盡管理來維護到農民的權利才對你們一定要去研究方式當採收期四月才開始採收期\n\n29\n00:10:49,970 --> 00:10:53,792\n淨靠的蒜頭都從外面回來因為我們台灣的消費量差不多到十幾萬我們台灣的蒜頭差不多到十幾萬這都吃得完吃得完十幾萬以後再淨靠再淨靠但是這個時間點你怎麼設的合適\n\n30\n00:11:06,256 --> 00:11:32,504\n這樣好嗎?是,我們剛才已經有研究有什麼經歷所以要記錄,採訪期10天可以進行,拜託大家,謝謝感謝主席,感謝律師組長謝謝學中委員,副市長你確定嗎?剛剛委員的質詢你確定嗎?就是採收期的時候是不可以再進行這個因為有關很多這個部分需要再做討論我們再來研議看怎麼樣去協助這一段那你多久研議要讓委員知道?\n\n31\n00:11:33,423 --> 00:11:59,480\n因為這個包括農業部的部門還有其他一個月之內可以讓委員知道嗎?研議一個月對一個月好不好?你在這邊同意我以為是OK了耶你可沒有說清楚我們來研議啦研議所以一個月之內會研議是不是?我的要求就是採收起不要進口不要進口來打壓到農民這樣聽清楚了嗎?這個價錢我們一個月來研議\n\n32\n00:12:02,803 --> 00:12:05,025\n本土的蒜頭真的比較好吃,我愛吃蒜頭。」\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5290\t11194\t感謝主席我請那個內政部長有請林部長謝謝部長好感謝部長對這次花蓮的地震這個災情我們內政部都非常積極來協助地方政府來處理這個災情的部分在這也要把我們部長幫你報告一下我們這次\n33248\t45957\t地震,地震發生以外其他地區沒有發生就更嚴重的案件。根據內政部統計資料,佛天山國屋齡超過50年起來有幾百間屋,幾百萬戶,幾百萬戶,雖然經過\n53842\t71415\t20年前的921跟這次的震災中沒有發現大規模的災情和損壞但是這個危老房屋耐震能力恐怕沒辦法符合到未來再來這個地震的這個耐震的需求希望我們可以趕快來加強檢測經過這個地震之後\n79301\t92211\t我們感覺這個檢測的重要性合作國軍才可以渡過、平安渡過後一刻的這個地點強調我們這個新的財產的信心請問國長,我們當全國我們這個勞務檢測及補償這個重要的進程目前我們內政部有在做補助運動檢測及國軍的這個進程是,來,委員報告\n109084\t129480\t這相關的政策及經費現在其實都有我們國土署在一百四百年到一百一十年的時候其實有做過普查那有一部分的民眾還有房屋他們有提出評估的申請那另外也有提出內政部長的申請\n130340\t157186\t不過因為這次地震不利我們國土署會再一次的請各縣市針對108年到110年普查的時候有一些這些房子我們會再要求地方政府重新來發通知函提醒這些屋主能夠積極的來提出相關評估或者是補強的申請\n158376\t161759\t我們這個補償的申請補助金額上限是45%我們上限45%我們現在有退關到85%有退關到85%退關這樣比較好不然加一個弱勢住戶他們要完成這個過境的訪問可能會比較困難我也希望說我們將對\n184419\t193063\t50年以上的我們這個老舊建築物希望我們耐心想辦法做一個檢測還有一項就是要拜託講講這個公共單位地方的公共單位就是我們鄉公所、電公所那裡的他們的公所有可能蓋起來都超過50年了這個國分可能也要請地方政府去盤點一下\n211632\t223824\t反點一下,如果有到50年以上的老舊建築物,我們希望我們也是要來做這個內政評估,希望可以,這個內政評估之後,如果有這個威嚇的疑慮,我們想要來做應急的一個方式,看要怎麼改善。」\n233193\t242823\t來委員報告專告公有的建築物目前內政部長已經完成超過91%所以這都是這幾年來持續都有在進行剛才你有說到五十年以上來委員稍微說明一下\n250510\t263139\t老不一定是危 雖然他家有可能二歲多 屋齡多 但是他不一定是危險或危老我們會優先針對危險的建築物的部分來做處理委員會提請50年以上的委員會來搭檔\n272025\t282538\t好,這樣麻煩我們副主席感謝副主席謝謝報告主席我請農糧署副署長農糧署副署長不好意思麻煩請農糧署\n289912\t296999\t副處長好,感謝你,我們剛才去投稿看到蒜頭的災害雖然當時應該會影響到我們所有的國分\n305695\t307696\t也有災害,是因為氣候變遷的災害。」\n321121\t327769\t我們去現場看了那些損害的情形我們有通緝我們這個鄉鎮公所那些損害的程度先來報給我們的管理委員會來負責但是那個時間過到現在都沒有公所報的\n338001\t353595\t沒有什麼人補就算是補救就很糟那是局限的就像那個對啊我們看那區那個農民有可能是不知道是企業或是管理層有某種造型所以他那些選擇都會派去這個問題\n354716\t362758\t你如果知道蒜頭一分第二五萬塊的本錢現在蒜頭像我跟蔣我分了蔣我分了當我們虎尾我們虎尾我住的地方最好到35塊再去到沿海都一樣是二十幾塊這個過分\n382445\t394818\t問題出在哪裡?你怎麼知道?因為過去我們的經驗就像你修行酒這段天氣的關係修行酒過去的經驗就是說三農酒介紹它有比較好啊怎麼會經營的是三農酒介紹又壞\n401875\t428451\t這是什麼原因?副署長要怎麼解釋?因為我們國人消費這個蒜頭它就是普遍消費我們今年的蒜頭目前來講大門就是四蒜部份大概在28至35這個段間間因為問題也是有一些部份是進口但是今年進口是比往年還少那我想今年到幾月了?\n428931\t432676\t到4月6000多公噸,以往年還少3個月就6000多公噸,以往年還少,我們這蒜頭多少錢?這蒜頭多少錢比台灣還要貴?\n446295\t458478\t比大家的介紹更好所以國人會大部分都是使用我們國產的蒜頭為主那我想這個價格因為我們生意也差不多要花錢可能差不多婚姻退休差不多要八、九成的部分啦那部分來說差不多這個介紹是屬於雙人不是很高的但是在歐盟來比是差不多一個穩定的這個介紹對這個合理的這個合理的介紹這個穩定對啦婚姻是以農立憲\n474341\t490648\t以農利縣我們的農民是真的非常辛苦兄弟像剛才我們副署長說的我們分明的蒜頭很多的瓶子絕對不會比金融局差一定是比金融局我今天有帶有帶蒜頭來這樣你看得出來倒一個是金融的倒一個是我們台灣的\n504974\t528929\t好!阿智你讚!厲害!這正靠的!阿智讚!難怪阿智是我們農民的救星!這樣我們會做的休田農民!這是阿根廷正靠的!這是阿根廷的!這是經營的政委來的!它恆大了,它有發達風存那麼久!這是我們台灣的!我們台灣的經濟也很好!經濟這麼好,居然有技能協會!\n535032\t542175\t所以我們統合起來主席我們是在懷疑是管理的問題但是不是管理的問題我們統合起來感覺起來是有可能是比較大的機會是進口的未來打壓到\n550859\t554863\t軍託的介紹。」所以在這裏我再複述一件事。既然這個定位、定位進口的未來跟這次要發展得漂亮、發展得好、沒有發芽、沒有歐元都沒有。所以我們是未來當採收期的時候,採收期我們就不要再給進口的未來。\n573462\t595650\t好嗎?我們採收期你要給我負責這件事採收期夠我們要給淨靠的這樣好不好?那那個淨靠有一個關稅、一個協定啦協定有三千多檔那我會說但是其他的高關稅對啊所以剛才我們在說的你也在說而已一月到三月就已經淨六千多檔啦\n597031\t600952\t已經超過我們觀塑的規格,我們觀塑的規格才三千幾噸而已對啊,我們已經超過它的規格,我們更有高觀塑的依賴,我們就明顯就達到我們軍統的選舉的介紹你看我們的選舉,這麼漂亮、這麼可愛,這一萬聽於第1個,這阿根廷的伴侶\n620979\t634484\t這次人的鄉土和鄉土真的敵過阿根廷的眼睛了所以我們軍曬的蒜頭放在那裡我們就要最盡管理來行銷、最盡管理來維護到農民的權利才對你們一定要去研究方式當採收期四月才開始採收期\n649970\t653792\t淨靠的蒜頭都從外面回來因為我們台灣的消費量差不多到十幾萬我們台灣的蒜頭差不多到十幾萬這都吃得完吃得完十幾萬以後再淨靠再淨靠但是這個時間點你怎麼設的合適\n666256\t692504\t這樣好嗎?是,我們剛才已經有研究有什麼經歷所以要記錄,採訪期10天可以進行,拜託大家,謝謝感謝主席,感謝律師組長謝謝學中委員,副市長你確定嗎?剛剛委員的質詢你確定嗎?就是採收期的時候是不可以再進行這個因為有關很多這個部分需要再做討論我們再來研議看怎麼樣去協助這一段那你多久研議要讓委員知道?\n693423\t719480\t因為這個包括農業部的部門還有其他一個月之內可以讓委員知道嗎?研議一個月對一個月好不好?你在這邊同意我以為是OK了耶你可沒有說清楚我們來研議啦研議所以一個月之內會研議是不是?我的要求就是採收起不要進口不要進口來打壓到農民這樣聽清楚了嗎?這個價錢我們一個月來研議\n722803\t725025\t本土的蒜頭真的比較好吃,我愛吃蒜頭。」\n","txt":"感謝主席我請那個內政部長有請林部長謝謝部長好感謝部長對這次花蓮的地震這個災情我們內政部都非常積極來協助地方政府來處理這個災情的部分在這也要把我們部長幫你報告一下我們這次\n地震,地震發生以外其他地區沒有發生就更嚴重的案件。根據內政部統計資料,佛天山國屋齡超過50年起來有幾百間屋,幾百萬戶,幾百萬戶,雖然經過\n20年前的921跟這次的震災中沒有發現大規模的災情和損壞但是這個危老房屋耐震能力恐怕沒辦法符合到未來再來這個地震的這個耐震的需求希望我們可以趕快來加強檢測經過這個地震之後\n我們感覺這個檢測的重要性合作國軍才可以渡過、平安渡過後一刻的這個地點強調我們這個新的財產的信心請問國長,我們當全國我們這個勞務檢測及補償這個重要的進程目前我們內政部有在做補助運動檢測及國軍的這個進程是,來,委員報告\n這相關的政策及經費現在其實都有我們國土署在一百四百年到一百一十年的時候其實有做過普查那有一部分的民眾還有房屋他們有提出評估的申請那另外也有提出內政部長的申請\n不過因為這次地震不利我們國土署會再一次的請各縣市針對108年到110年普查的時候有一些這些房子我們會再要求地方政府重新來發通知函提醒這些屋主能夠積極的來提出相關評估或者是補強的申請\n我們這個補償的申請補助金額上限是45%我們上限45%我們現在有退關到85%有退關到85%退關這樣比較好不然加一個弱勢住戶他們要完成這個過境的訪問可能會比較困難我也希望說我們將對\n50年以上的我們這個老舊建築物希望我們耐心想辦法做一個檢測還有一項就是要拜託講講這個公共單位地方的公共單位就是我們鄉公所、電公所那裡的他們的公所有可能蓋起來都超過50年了這個國分可能也要請地方政府去盤點一下\n反點一下,如果有到50年以上的老舊建築物,我們希望我們也是要來做這個內政評估,希望可以,這個內政評估之後,如果有這個威嚇的疑慮,我們想要來做應急的一個方式,看要怎麼改善。」\n來委員報告專告公有的建築物目前內政部長已經完成超過91%所以這都是這幾年來持續都有在進行剛才你有說到五十年以上來委員稍微說明一下\n老不一定是危 雖然他家有可能二歲多 屋齡多 但是他不一定是危險或危老我們會優先針對危險的建築物的部分來做處理委員會提請50年以上的委員會來搭檔\n好,這樣麻煩我們副主席感謝副主席謝謝報告主席我請農糧署副署長農糧署副署長不好意思麻煩請農糧署\n副處長好,感謝你,我們剛才去投稿看到蒜頭的災害雖然當時應該會影響到我們所有的國分\n也有災害,是因為氣候變遷的災害。」\n我們去現場看了那些損害的情形我們有通緝我們這個鄉鎮公所那些損害的程度先來報給我們的管理委員會來負責但是那個時間過到現在都沒有公所報的\n沒有什麼人補就算是補救就很糟那是局限的就像那個對啊我們看那區那個農民有可能是不知道是企業或是管理層有某種造型所以他那些選擇都會派去這個問題\n你如果知道蒜頭一分第二五萬塊的本錢現在蒜頭像我跟蔣我分了蔣我分了當我們虎尾我們虎尾我住的地方最好到35塊再去到沿海都一樣是二十幾塊這個過分\n問題出在哪裡?你怎麼知道?因為過去我們的經驗就像你修行酒這段天氣的關係修行酒過去的經驗就是說三農酒介紹它有比較好啊怎麼會經營的是三農酒介紹又壞\n這是什麼原因?副署長要怎麼解釋?因為我們國人消費這個蒜頭它就是普遍消費我們今年的蒜頭目前來講大門就是四蒜部份大概在28至35這個段間間因為問題也是有一些部份是進口但是今年進口是比往年還少那我想今年到幾月了?\n到4月6000多公噸,以往年還少3個月就6000多公噸,以往年還少,我們這蒜頭多少錢?這蒜頭多少錢比台灣還要貴?\n比大家的介紹更好所以國人會大部分都是使用我們國產的蒜頭為主那我想這個價格因為我們生意也差不多要花錢可能差不多婚姻退休差不多要八、九成的部分啦那部分來說差不多這個介紹是屬於雙人不是很高的但是在歐盟來比是差不多一個穩定的這個介紹對這個合理的這個合理的介紹這個穩定對啦婚姻是以農立憲\n以農利縣我們的農民是真的非常辛苦兄弟像剛才我們副署長說的我們分明的蒜頭很多的瓶子絕對不會比金融局差一定是比金融局我今天有帶有帶蒜頭來這樣你看得出來倒一個是金融的倒一個是我們台灣的\n好!阿智你讚!厲害!這正靠的!阿智讚!難怪阿智是我們農民的救星!這樣我們會做的休田農民!這是阿根廷正靠的!這是阿根廷的!這是經營的政委來的!它恆大了,它有發達風存那麼久!這是我們台灣的!我們台灣的經濟也很好!經濟這麼好,居然有技能協會!\n所以我們統合起來主席我們是在懷疑是管理的問題但是不是管理的問題我們統合起來感覺起來是有可能是比較大的機會是進口的未來打壓到\n軍託的介紹。」所以在這裏我再複述一件事。既然這個定位、定位進口的未來跟這次要發展得漂亮、發展得好、沒有發芽、沒有歐元都沒有。所以我們是未來當採收期的時候,採收期我們就不要再給進口的未來。\n好嗎?我們採收期你要給我負責這件事採收期夠我們要給淨靠的這樣好不好?那那個淨靠有一個關稅、一個協定啦協定有三千多檔那我會說但是其他的高關稅對啊所以剛才我們在說的你也在說而已一月到三月就已經淨六千多檔啦\n已經超過我們觀塑的規格,我們觀塑的規格才三千幾噸而已對啊,我們已經超過它的規格,我們更有高觀塑的依賴,我們就明顯就達到我們軍統的選舉的介紹你看我們的選舉,這麼漂亮、這麼可愛,這一萬聽於第1個,這阿根廷的伴侶\n這次人的鄉土和鄉土真的敵過阿根廷的眼睛了所以我們軍曬的蒜頭放在那裡我們就要最盡管理來行銷、最盡管理來維護到農民的權利才對你們一定要去研究方式當採收期四月才開始採收期\n淨靠的蒜頭都從外面回來因為我們台灣的消費量差不多到十幾萬我們台灣的蒜頭差不多到十幾萬這都吃得完吃得完十幾萬以後再淨靠再淨靠但是這個時間點你怎麼設的合適\n這樣好嗎?是,我們剛才已經有研究有什麼經歷所以要記錄,採訪期10天可以進行,拜託大家,謝謝感謝主席,感謝律師組長謝謝學中委員,副市長你確定嗎?剛剛委員的質詢你確定嗎?就是採收期的時候是不可以再進行這個因為有關很多這個部分需要再做討論我們再來研議看怎麼樣去協助這一段那你多久研議要讓委員知道?\n因為這個包括農業部的部門還有其他一個月之內可以讓委員知道嗎?研議一個月對一個月好不好?你在這邊同意我以為是OK了耶你可沒有說清楚我們來研議啦研議所以一個月之內會研議是不是?我的要求就是採收起不要進口不要進口來打壓到農民這樣聽清楚了嗎?這個價錢我們一個月來研議\n本土的蒜頭真的比較好吃,我愛吃蒜頭。」\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.290 --> 00:11.194\n感謝主席我請那個內政部長有請林部長謝謝部長好感謝部長對這次花蓮的地震這個災情我們內政部都非常積極來協助地方政府來處理這個災情的部分在這也要把我們部長幫你報告一下我們這次\n\n00:33.248 --> 00:45.957\n地震,地震發生以外其他地區沒有發生就更嚴重的案件。根據內政部統計資料,佛天山國屋齡超過50年起來有幾百間屋,幾百萬戶,幾百萬戶,雖然經過\n\n00:53.842 --> 01:11.415\n20年前的921跟這次的震災中沒有發現大規模的災情和損壞但是這個危老房屋耐震能力恐怕沒辦法符合到未來再來這個地震的這個耐震的需求希望我們可以趕快來加強檢測經過這個地震之後\n\n01:19.301 --> 01:32.211\n我們感覺這個檢測的重要性合作國軍才可以渡過、平安渡過後一刻的這個地點強調我們這個新的財產的信心請問國長,我們當全國我們這個勞務檢測及補償這個重要的進程目前我們內政部有在做補助運動檢測及國軍的這個進程是,來,委員報告\n\n01:49.084 --> 02:09.480\n這相關的政策及經費現在其實都有我們國土署在一百四百年到一百一十年的時候其實有做過普查那有一部分的民眾還有房屋他們有提出評估的申請那另外也有提出內政部長的申請\n\n02:10.340 --> 02:37.186\n不過因為這次地震不利我們國土署會再一次的請各縣市針對108年到110年普查的時候有一些這些房子我們會再要求地方政府重新來發通知函提醒這些屋主能夠積極的來提出相關評估或者是補強的申請\n\n02:38.376 --> 02:41.759\n我們這個補償的申請補助金額上限是45%我們上限45%我們現在有退關到85%有退關到85%退關這樣比較好不然加一個弱勢住戶他們要完成這個過境的訪問可能會比較困難我也希望說我們將對\n\n03:04.419 --> 03:13.063\n50年以上的我們這個老舊建築物希望我們耐心想辦法做一個檢測還有一項就是要拜託講講這個公共單位地方的公共單位就是我們鄉公所、電公所那裡的他們的公所有可能蓋起來都超過50年了這個國分可能也要請地方政府去盤點一下\n\n03:31.632 --> 03:43.824\n反點一下,如果有到50年以上的老舊建築物,我們希望我們也是要來做這個內政評估,希望可以,這個內政評估之後,如果有這個威嚇的疑慮,我們想要來做應急的一個方式,看要怎麼改善。」\n\n03:53.193 --> 04:02.823\n來委員報告專告公有的建築物目前內政部長已經完成超過91%所以這都是這幾年來持續都有在進行剛才你有說到五十年以上來委員稍微說明一下\n\n04:10.510 --> 04:23.139\n老不一定是危雖然他家有可能二歲多屋齡多但是他不一定是危險或危老我們會優先針對危險的建築物的部分來做處理委員會提請50年以上的委員會來搭檔\n\n04:32.025 --> 04:42.538\n好,這樣麻煩我們副主席感謝副主席謝謝報告主席我請農糧署副署長農糧署副署長不好意思麻煩請農糧署\n\n04:49.912 --> 04:56.999\n副處長好,感謝你,我們剛才去投稿看到蒜頭的災害雖然當時應該會影響到我們所有的國分\n\n05:05.695 --> 05:07.696\n也有災害,是因為氣候變遷的災害。」\n\n05:21.121 --> 05:27.769\n我們去現場看了那些損害的情形我們有通緝我們這個鄉鎮公所那些損害的程度先來報給我們的管理委員會來負責但是那個時間過到現在都沒有公所報的\n\n05:38.001 --> 05:53.595\n沒有什麼人補就算是補救就很糟那是局限的就像那個對啊我們看那區那個農民有可能是不知道是企業或是管理層有某種造型所以他那些選擇都會派去這個問題\n\n05:54.716 --> 06:02.758\n你如果知道蒜頭一分第二五萬塊的本錢現在蒜頭像我跟蔣我分了蔣我分了當我們虎尾我們虎尾我住的地方最好到35塊再去到沿海都一樣是二十幾塊這個過分\n\n06:22.445 --> 06:34.818\n問題出在哪裡?你怎麼知道?因為過去我們的經驗就像你修行酒這段天氣的關係修行酒過去的經驗就是說三農酒介紹它有比較好啊怎麼會經營的是三農酒介紹又壞\n\n06:41.875 --> 07:08.451\n這是什麼原因?副署長要怎麼解釋?因為我們國人消費這個蒜頭它就是普遍消費我們今年的蒜頭目前來講大門就是四蒜部份大概在28至35這個段間間因為問題也是有一些部份是進口但是今年進口是比往年還少那我想今年到幾月了?\n\n07:08.931 --> 07:12.676\n到4月6000多公噸,以往年還少3個月就6000多公噸,以往年還少,我們這蒜頭多少錢?這蒜頭多少錢比台灣還要貴?\n\n07:26.295 --> 07:38.478\n比大家的介紹更好所以國人會大部分都是使用我們國產的蒜頭為主那我想這個價格因為我們生意也差不多要花錢可能差不多婚姻退休差不多要八、九成的部分啦那部分來說差不多這個介紹是屬於雙人不是很高的但是在歐盟來比是差不多一個穩定的這個介紹對這個合理的這個合理的介紹這個穩定對啦婚姻是以農立憲\n\n07:54.341 --> 08:10.648\n以農利縣我們的農民是真的非常辛苦兄弟像剛才我們副署長說的我們分明的蒜頭很多的瓶子絕對不會比金融局差一定是比金融局我今天有帶有帶蒜頭來這樣你看得出來倒一個是金融的倒一個是我們台灣的\n\n08:24.974 --> 08:48.929\n好!阿智你讚!厲害!這正靠的!阿智讚!難怪阿智是我們農民的救星!這樣我們會做的休田農民!這是阿根廷正靠的!這是阿根廷的!這是經營的政委來的!它恆大了,它有發達風存那麼久!這是我們台灣的!我們台灣的經濟也很好!經濟這麼好,居然有技能協會!\n\n08:55.032 --> 09:02.175\n所以我們統合起來主席我們是在懷疑是管理的問題但是不是管理的問題我們統合起來感覺起來是有可能是比較大的機會是進口的未來打壓到\n\n09:10.859 --> 09:14.863\n軍託的介紹。」所以在這裏我再複述一件事。既然這個定位、定位進口的未來跟這次要發展得漂亮、發展得好、沒有發芽、沒有歐元都沒有。所以我們是未來當採收期的時候,採收期我們就不要再給進口的未來。\n\n09:33.462 --> 09:55.650\n好嗎?我們採收期你要給我負責這件事採收期夠我們要給淨靠的這樣好不好?那那個淨靠有一個關稅、一個協定啦協定有三千多檔那我會說但是其他的高關稅對啊所以剛才我們在說的你也在說而已一月到三月就已經淨六千多檔啦\n\n09:57.031 --> 10:00.952\n已經超過我們觀塑的規格,我們觀塑的規格才三千幾噸而已對啊,我們已經超過它的規格,我們更有高觀塑的依賴,我們就明顯就達到我們軍統的選舉的介紹你看我們的選舉,這麼漂亮、這麼可愛,這一萬聽於第1個,這阿根廷的伴侶\n\n10:20.979 --> 10:34.484\n這次人的鄉土和鄉土真的敵過阿根廷的眼睛了所以我們軍曬的蒜頭放在那裡我們就要最盡管理來行銷、最盡管理來維護到農民的權利才對你們一定要去研究方式當採收期四月才開始採收期\n\n10:49.970 --> 10:53.792\n淨靠的蒜頭都從外面回來因為我們台灣的消費量差不多到十幾萬我們台灣的蒜頭差不多到十幾萬這都吃得完吃得完十幾萬以後再淨靠再淨靠但是這個時間點你怎麼設的合適\n\n11:06.256 --> 11:32.504\n這樣好嗎?是,我們剛才已經有研究有什麼經歷所以要記錄,採訪期10天可以進行,拜託大家,謝謝感謝主席,感謝律師組長謝謝學中委員,副市長你確定嗎?剛剛委員的質詢你確定嗎?就是採收期的時候是不可以再進行這個因為有關很多這個部分需要再做討論我們再來研議看怎麼樣去協助這一段那你多久研議要讓委員知道?\n\n11:33.423 --> 11:59.480\n因為這個包括農業部的部門還有其他一個月之內可以讓委員知道嗎?研議一個月對一個月好不好?你在這邊同意我以為是OK了耶你可沒有說清楚我們來研議啦研議所以一個月之內會研議是不是?我的要求就是採收起不要進口不要進口來打壓到農民這樣聽清楚了嗎?這個價錢我們一個月來研議\n\n12:02.803 --> 12:05.025\n本土的蒜頭真的比較好吃,我愛吃蒜頭。」\n\n","segments":[{"start":5.29,"end":11.194,"text":"感謝主席我請那個內政部長有請林部長謝謝部長好感謝部長對這次花蓮的地震這個災情我們內政部都非常積極來協助地方政府來處理這個災情的部分在這也要把我們部長幫你報告一下我們這次"},{"start":33.248,"end":45.957,"text":"地震,地震發生以外其他地區沒有發生就更嚴重的案件。根據內政部統計資料,佛天山國屋齡超過50年起來有幾百間屋,幾百萬戶,幾百萬戶,雖然經過"},{"start":53.842,"end":71.415,"text":"20年前的921跟這次的震災中沒有發現大規模的災情和損壞但是這個危老房屋耐震能力恐怕沒辦法符合到未來再來這個地震的這個耐震的需求希望我們可以趕快來加強檢測經過這個地震之後"},{"start":79.301,"end":92.211,"text":"我們感覺這個檢測的重要性合作國軍才可以渡過、平安渡過後一刻的這個地點強調我們這個新的財產的信心請問國長,我們當全國我們這個勞務檢測及補償這個重要的進程目前我們內政部有在做補助運動檢測及國軍的這個進程是,來,委員報告"},{"start":109.084,"end":129.48,"text":"這相關的政策及經費現在其實都有我們國土署在一百四百年到一百一十年的時候其實有做過普查那有一部分的民眾還有房屋他們有提出評估的申請那另外也有提出內政部長的申請"},{"start":130.34,"end":157.186,"text":"不過因為這次地震不利我們國土署會再一次的請各縣市針對108年到110年普查的時候有一些這些房子我們會再要求地方政府重新來發通知函提醒這些屋主能夠積極的來提出相關評估或者是補強的申請"},{"start":158.376,"end":161.759,"text":"我們這個補償的申請補助金額上限是45%我們上限45%我們現在有退關到85%有退關到85%退關這樣比較好不然加一個弱勢住戶他們要完成這個過境的訪問可能會比較困難我也希望說我們將對"},{"start":184.419,"end":193.063,"text":"50年以上的我們這個老舊建築物希望我們耐心想辦法做一個檢測還有一項就是要拜託講講這個公共單位地方的公共單位就是我們鄉公所、電公所那裡的他們的公所有可能蓋起來都超過50年了這個國分可能也要請地方政府去盤點一下"},{"start":211.632,"end":223.824,"text":"反點一下,如果有到50年以上的老舊建築物,我們希望我們也是要來做這個內政評估,希望可以,這個內政評估之後,如果有這個威嚇的疑慮,我們想要來做應急的一個方式,看要怎麼改善。」"},{"start":233.193,"end":242.823,"text":"來委員報告專告公有的建築物目前內政部長已經完成超過91%所以這都是這幾年來持續都有在進行剛才你有說到五十年以上來委員稍微說明一下"},{"start":250.51,"end":263.139,"text":"老不一定是危 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