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00:03:17,021\n二）委員二十萬八千四百四十人,去年新生兒人數多少?十三萬五千五百七十一人。這個疊的比率從二十萬掉到十三萬,你會不會覺得觸目驚心?對啊,可是你會發現\n\n9\n00:03:20,809 --> 00:03:25,512\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百七\n\n10\n00:03:32,591 --> 00:03:35,433\n二）委員黃健豪等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案案件事件通報件數2016年11萬7千件\n\n11\n00:03:58,769 --> 00:04:28,163\n二〇二三年就變成十六萬八千件然後我們受虐的兒少人數二〇二三年也成長到了一萬兩千三百七十三人我問一下我們的次長請問你這樣的一個所謂的兒童少年的所謂的我們講社會環境你叫家長怎麼敢生啊\n\n12\n00:04:30,250 --> 00:04:51,296\n那我就想說請教一下我們政府部門這個部分我真的沒有看到什麼拿出什麼具體的辦法那第二個你再看平均每萬位18歲以下兒少的保護案件受虐人數2016年是每萬位有23.56人\n\n13\n00:04:55,598 --> 00:05:00,252\n增加到2022年是從23人左右增加成34人,漲幅是1.46倍。\n\n14\n00:05:03,766 --> 00:05:26,542\n條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委\n\n15\n00:05:27,748 --> 00:05:37,530\n六年所謂的性侵害的被害人從2016年的78人到2023年變成374人快要五倍耶然後到14歲兒童自殺率2015年到2022年每10萬人0.5人\n\n16\n00:05:52,659 --> 00:06:19,329\n增加為1.6人暴增三倍15到19歲從2.8人增加到5.4人暴增兩倍而少年犯罪人口這些我都講我們今天兒少的那個處境之惡化跟惡劣我不知道部長你會聽起來覺得觸目驚心啊當然對啊我真的是覺得\n\n17\n00:06:20,580 --> 00:06:38,175\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案（事由．立法院第11會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．立法院第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．立法院第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具\n\n18\n00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:49,765\n2016年的1631人增加為2022年的2171人,漲幅1.33倍。詐欺嫌疑犯從2016年的953人增加為2023年的2193人,漲幅2.3倍。」我把這些嚴重的數字提出來,\n\n19\n00:07:12,679 --> 00:07:29,368\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國�\n\n20\n00:07:41,266 --> 00:07:59,023\n市長你覺得八年過去了我們的這個網到底是越補越強韌還是越補越大動啊跟委員報告我來了快七年半沒有一天沒有涉及到社會安全防護網這裡面包括驚障殺人\n\n21\n00:08:00,086 --> 00:08:25,985\n那我們敬佩委員這些事情是我們所有從政者大概是最重要的一個焦點我們如果能夠把重心放在這裡除了該立的該修的法立修以外該執行的機關不立這些東西都要言語究舉所以土法不足以自行我認為原來的法立在經過多次的研修以後事實上\n\n22\n00:08:27,586 --> 00:08:41,285\n還有不足但是已經可以壓制這些犯罪只是為什麼這個數據還沒有起來是不是執行的問題執行不利的問題對市長講得非常好土法不足以自行\n\n23\n00:08:42,349 --> 00:08:45,291\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具〈中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案〉案件。\n\n24\n00:09:09,397 --> 00:09:24,858\n我希望未來新的政府上來之後我不知道次長會不會繼續再幫新的政府來服務那都希望能夠把兒少的處遇環境的惡化放在心上謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9587\t32985\t主席請法務部司法院衛福部請法務部司法院衛福部謝謝首先這個次長我有看到法務部的書面報告\n34226\t46551\t那我覺得裡面有一些就是關於修法的建議我覺得是確實可以參採比方說你說現行的刑法體系是加咒期刑至二分之一 對不對\n48742\t75660\t等於是給法官有一個裁量的空間我覺得這個建議就很好將來在修法的時候我覺得這個是可以考慮進去另外你也有講說現在刑法沒有所謂的對未滿六歲之人犯特定罪名加重或減輕的處罰規定一般就是指所謂的無行為能力限制行為能力做區分標準七歲這個我覺得也是可以參查\n77028\t106218\t但是我還是跟市長提醒一下也就不用特別談說今天立法委員立法如何如何因為實際上立法委員反映民意在修法過程當中當然是跟行政部門通力合作嘛 對不對如果大方向上他實際上是民意之所趨而且事實上您剛剛也講這跟也沒有什麼違憲不違憲的問題 對不對所以換言之我覺得今天來這邊審查法案實際上我覺得法務部\n106578\t107499\t法律條文修正草案案 。\n126124\t155527\t其實你看到虐童案你看到創意私房對於所謂的額紹的這個影片所引發的性剝削的連鎖反應我自己看了非常心痛啦我也必須講說這些年一方面可能也跟我們現在的資訊科技這個各項的發達有關啦所以犯罪的太陽也不斷的在改變\n157176\t177623\t另一方面我也覺得說政府真的要加把勁因為事實上我看到我看到很多的數字真的讓我憂心忡忡我們下一代的未來怎麼辦我就幾個數字來救教一下我們次長你知道我們新生兒在2016年新生兒人數是多少嗎\n179144\t197021\t二）委員二十萬八千四百四十人,去年新生兒人數多少?十三萬五千五百七十一人。這個疊的比率從二十萬掉到十三萬,你會不會覺得觸目驚心?對啊,可是你會發現\n200809\t205512\t三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百七\n212591\t215433\t二）委員黃健豪等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案案件事件通報件數2016年11萬7千件\n238769\t268163\t二〇二三年就變成十六萬八千件然後我們受虐的兒少人數二〇二三年也成長到了一萬兩千三百七十三人我問一下我們的次長請問你這樣的一個所謂的兒童少年的所謂的我們講社會環境你叫家長怎麼敢生啊\n270250\t291296\t那我就想說請教一下我們政府部門這個部分我真的沒有看到什麼拿出什麼具體的辦法那第二個你再看平均每萬位18歲以下兒少的保護案件受虐人數2016年是每萬位有23.56人\n295598\t300252\t增加到2022年是從23人左右增加成34人,漲幅是1.46倍。\n303766\t326542\t條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委\n327748\t337530\t六年所謂的性侵害的被害人從2016年的78人到2023年變成374人快要五倍耶然後到14歲兒童自殺率2015年到2022年每10萬人0.5人\n352659\t379329\t增加為1.6人暴增三倍15到19歲從2.8人增加到5.4人暴增兩倍而少年犯罪人口這些我都講我們今天兒少的那個處境之惡化跟惡劣我不知道部長你會聽起來覺得觸目驚心啊當然對啊我真的是覺得\n380580\t398175\t三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案（事由．立法院第11會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．立法院第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．立法院第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具\n404620\t409765\t2016年的1631人增加為2022年的2171人, 漲幅1.33倍。詐欺嫌疑犯從2016年的953人增加為2023年的2193人, 漲幅2.3倍。」我把這些嚴重的數字提出來,\n432679\t449368\t三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國�\n461266\t479023\t市長你覺得八年過去了我們的這個網到底是越補越強韌還是越補越大動啊跟委員報告我來了快七年半沒有一天沒有涉及到社會安全防護網這裡面包括驚障殺人\n480086\t505985\t那我們敬佩委員這些事情是我們所有從政者大概是最重要的一個焦點我們如果能夠把重心放在這裡除了該立的該修的法立修以外該執行的機關不立這些東西都要言語究舉所以土法不足以自行我認為原來的法立在經過多次的研修以後事實上\n507586\t521285\t還有不足但是已經可以壓制這些犯罪只是為什麼這個數據還沒有起來是不是執行的問題執行不利的問題對市長講得非常好土法不足以自行\n522349\t525291\t三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具〈中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案〉案件。\n549397\t564858\t我希望未來新的政府上來之後我不知道次長會不會繼續再幫新的政府來服務那都希望能夠把兒少的處遇環境的惡化放在心上謝謝委員\n","txt":"主席請法務部司法院衛福部請法務部司法院衛福部謝謝首先這個次長我有看到法務部的書面報告\n那我覺得裡面有一些就是關於修法的建議我覺得是確實可以參採比方說你說現行的刑法體系是加咒期刑至二分之一 對不對\n等於是給法官有一個裁量的空間我覺得這個建議就很好將來在修法的時候我覺得這個是可以考慮進去另外你也有講說現在刑法沒有所謂的對未滿六歲之人犯特定罪名加重或減輕的處罰規定一般就是指所謂的無行為能力限制行為能力做區分標準七歲這個我覺得也是可以參查\n但是我還是跟市長提醒一下也就不用特別談說今天立法委員立法如何如何因為實際上立法委員反映民意在修法過程當中當然是跟行政部門通力合作嘛 對不對如果大方向上他實際上是民意之所趨而且事實上您剛剛也講這跟也沒有什麼違憲不違憲的問題 對不對所以換言之我覺得今天來這邊審查法案實際上我覺得法務部\n法律條文修正草案案 。\n其實你看到虐童案你看到創意私房對於所謂的額紹的這個影片所引發的性剝削的連鎖反應我自己看了非常心痛啦我也必須講說這些年一方面可能也跟我們現在的資訊科技這個各項的發達有關啦所以犯罪的太陽也不斷的在改變\n另一方面我也覺得說政府真的要加把勁因為事實上我看到我看到很多的數字真的讓我憂心忡忡我們下一代的未來怎麼辦我就幾個數字來救教一下我們次長你知道我們新生兒在2016年新生兒人數是多少嗎\n二）委員二十萬八千四百四十人,去年新生兒人數多少?十三萬五千五百七十一人。這個疊的比率從二十萬掉到十三萬,你會不會覺得觸目驚心?對啊,可是你會發現\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百七\n二）委員黃健豪等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案案件事件通報件數2016年11萬7千件\n二〇二三年就變成十六萬八千件然後我們受虐的兒少人數二〇二三年也成長到了一萬兩千三百七十三人我問一下我們的次長請問你這樣的一個所謂的兒童少年的所謂的我們講社會環境你叫家長怎麼敢生啊\n那我就想說請教一下我們政府部門這個部分我真的沒有看到什麼拿出什麼具體的辦法那第二個你再看平均每萬位18歲以下兒少的保護案件受虐人數2016年是每萬位有23.56人\n增加到2022年是從23人左右增加成34人,漲幅是1.46倍。\n條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第13次全體委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委\n六年所謂的性侵害的被害人從2016年的78人到2023年變成374人快要五倍耶然後到14歲兒童自殺率2015年到2022年每10萬人0.5人\n增加為1.6人暴增三倍15到19歲從2.8人增加到5.4人暴增兩倍而少年犯罪人口這些我都講我們今天兒少的那個處境之惡化跟惡劣我不知道部長你會聽起來覺得觸目驚心啊當然對啊我真的是覺得\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案（事由．立法院第11會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．立法院第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．立法院第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具\n2016年的1631人增加為2022年的2171人, 漲幅1.33倍。詐欺嫌疑犯從2016年的953人增加為2023年的2193人, 漲幅2.3倍。」我把這些嚴重的數字提出來,\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百八十六條條文修正草案案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國�\n市長你覺得八年過去了我們的這個網到底是越補越強韌還是越補越大動啊跟委員報告我來了快七年半沒有一天沒有涉及到社會安全防護網這裡面包括驚障殺人\n那我們敬佩委員這些事情是我們所有從政者大概是最重要的一個焦點我們如果能夠把重心放在這裡除了該立的該修的法立修以外該執行的機關不立這些東西都要言語究舉所以土法不足以自行我認為原來的法立在經過多次的研修以後事實上\n還有不足但是已經可以壓制這些犯罪只是為什麼這個數據還沒有起來是不是執行的問題執行不利的問題對市長講得非常好土法不足以自行\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具〈中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案〉案件。\n我希望未來新的政府上來之後我不知道次長會不會繼續再幫新的政府來服務那都希望能夠把兒少的處遇環境的惡化放在心上謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.587 --> 00:32.985\n主席請法務部司法院衛福部請法務部司法院衛福部謝謝首先這個次長我有看到法務部的書面報告\n\n00:34.226 --> 00:46.551\n那我覺得裡面有一些就是關於修法的建議我覺得是確實可以參採比方說你說現行的刑法體系是加咒期刑至二分之一對不對\n\n00:48.742 --> 01:15.660\n等於是給法官有一個裁量的空間我覺得這個建議就很好將來在修法的時候我覺得這個是可以考慮進去另外你也有講說現在刑法沒有所謂的對未滿六歲之人犯特定罪名加重或減輕的處罰規定一般就是指所謂的無行為能力限制行為能力做區分標準七歲這個我覺得也是可以參查\n\n01:17.028 --> 01:46.218\n但是我還是跟市長提醒一下也就不用特別談說今天立法委員立法如何如何因為實際上立法委員反映民意在修法過程當中當然是跟行政部門通力合作嘛對不對如果大方向上他實際上是民意之所趨而且事實上您剛剛也講這跟也沒有什麼違憲不違憲的問題對不對所以換言之我覺得今天來這邊審查法案實際上我覺得法務部\n\n01:46.578 --> 01:47.499\n法律條文修正草案案。\n\n02:06.124 --> 02:35.527\n其實你看到虐童案你看到創意私房對於所謂的額紹的這個影片所引發的性剝削的連鎖反應我自己看了非常心痛啦我也必須講說這些年一方面可能也跟我們現在的資訊科技這個各項的發達有關啦所以犯罪的太陽也不斷的在改變\n\n02:37.176 --> 02:57.623\n另一方面我也覺得說政府真的要加把勁因為事實上我看到我看到很多的數字真的讓我憂心忡忡我們下一代的未來怎麼辦我就幾個數字來救教一下我們次長你知道我們新生兒在2016年新生兒人數是多少嗎\n\n02:59.144 --> 03:17.021\n二）委員二十萬八千四百四十人,去年新生兒人數多少?十三萬五千五百七十一人。這個疊的比率從二十萬掉到十三萬,你會不會覺得觸目驚心?對啊,可是你會發現\n\n03:20.809 --> 03:25.512\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第七十七條及第二百七\n\n03:32.591 --> 03:35.433\n二）委員黃健豪等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案案案件事件通報件數2016年11萬7千件\n\n03:58.769 --> 04:28.163\n二〇二三年就變成十六萬八千件然後我們受虐的兒少人數二〇二三年也成長到了一萬兩千三百七十三人我問一下我們的次長請問你這樣的一個所謂的兒童少年的所謂的我們講社會環境你叫家長怎麼敢生啊\n\n04:30.250 --> 04:51.296\n那我就想說請教一下我們政府部門這個部分我真的沒有看到什麼拿出什麼具體的辦法那第二個你再看平均每萬位18歲以下兒少的保護案件受虐人數2016年是每萬位有23.56人\n\n04:55.598 --> 05:00.252\n增加到2022年是從23人左右增加成34人,漲幅是1.46倍。\n\n05:03.766 --> 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