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00:02:24,104\n條文刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第十七條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案\n\n7\n00:02:25,584 --> 00:02:34,627\n條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及\n\n8\n00:02:47,350 --> 00:03:10,523\n如果說檢察官他的稅理夠強、舉證夠強,那上級審爭奪這些情形,他會做一個什麼?副局長,因為你們都法務部開戰了,跟柯委員拔我們不敢跟法務部開戰,但是因為具體的案情我不是柯委員,我是副委員,那個不要緊張,本期要再次強調\n\n9\n00:03:13,052 --> 00:03:40,154\n今天最後衡量的那把尺還是在法官手上所以本席不是來苛責司法院這是確確實實司法院不服人民的期待所以我們要用什麼樣的層面讓司法院的法官把尺度能夠更接近社會大家共同的想法\n\n10\n00:03:41,564 --> 00:04:08,918\n我們不希望再有恐龍法官我們要趨近於現世社會當中所有的民間的氛圍本席在這裡跟你商量一下我們的社會安全網真的破而且破得非常非常的嚴重今天如果司法有嚇阻力有這麼多案件不斷的發生不斷的快速的成長\n\n11\n00:04:11,393 --> 00:04:38,518\n條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八\n\n12\n00:04:39,650 --> 00:04:58,884\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖�\n\n13\n00:05:09,143 --> 00:05:35,891\n還在認為他可以逃避法律的制裁來對這些孩童用這麼粗暴殘忍的方式來對待是我們的法院生病還是我們的法律真的是不髒我們再看直接對幼童我們講到就直接的性侵案2016年\n\n14\n00:05:37,611 --> 00:06:04,576\n只有78人到2023年去年離374人請問這又是幾倍啊不要規則在法院現在的檢察官只要看到這種案件他不敢不起訴也不敢吃案可以吃別種案這種案他不敢吃政治的案件會吃案經常看到吃案但是\n\n15\n00:06:06,231 --> 00:06:27,410\n這種性侵誘惑的案他們絕對不敢吃案但是到了法院法院的天平到底在哪裡你看這種成長率請問一下司法院沒有失職嗎從78人端端幾年成長到374人還有沒有爆發的還有多少件還不曉得\n\n16\n00:06:28,892 --> 00:06:57,034\n次長有什麼想法?副秘書長有什麼想法?跟委員報告,當然案件是整個社會教育環境,但是案件起訴到檢察官偵查,如果起訴到法院,剛才次長也有講,幾乎都是有罪的。那接下來就是說,良刑,當然剛才跟委員報告很具體的案情,但是我們現在司法案確實也都是在,不是只有針對這些兒少性的各種的案件的這些的良刑,我們也正在研究各方面的良刑的基準。\n\n17\n00:06:58,533 --> 00:07:26,916\n本期是希望你把今天委員會的發言帶回去司法院跟所有的法官要有一個基本的一個共識一個孩子的成長只有一次他被這樣的虐待甚至小小的生命變成責任的天使我們何其痛苦看到社會發生這樣的情況我們看看\n\n18\n00:07:28,137 --> 00:07:54,166\n一百零八年才修完法加重完全沒有用持續發生案件不斷的在增加剛剛副院長講到一句話是蠻對的我們的社會生病了因為我們的教育出了問題今天為什麼教育做成這個樣子但是不要忘記了法律跟司法院是我們最後一道防線\n\n19\n00:07:55,768 --> 00:08:18,658\n去彌補教育的失敗。」所以啊本席在這裡再一次啊對副秘書長我們不能再看到這樣的案情再發生希望透過這次的修法能夠讓社會這樣的暴力事件能夠降下來凌虐致死本來就是殺人案\n\n20\n00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:40,771\n本來就是殺人案所以在這裡希望今天秘書長沒有來但是我們更期待副院長回去溝通有跟院長、副院長溝通是不是我們司法院能夠這一方面真正有一個他們肩膀上的責任該擔的要擔好不好謝謝謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1195\t6743\t條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期\n12409\t35587\t委員好,今天秘書長請假是嗎?是,跟委員報告,是,秘書長請假。本席在這希望以後這種社會矚目而且非常重大的法院在討論的時候,希望秘書長能夠出席,好不好?是,是,是,今天謝謝。副秘書長,我想我們今天\n38389\t63439\t對兒少女兒案的討論和修法相關的討論。我想最重要的只要事情發生在法務部的檢察署勢必會起訴但是這起訴以後法院在法官的自由行政裡面\n64574\t91994\t到底把虐而暗當作什麼樣的情況來看待?我現在必須要特別強調一個孩子的成長只有一次當時他所受到的環境是如此的暴力相向未來他的個性成長以後認為這就是理所當然\n93769\t121148\t每一個受虐的兒童尤其在就讀國小以下因為國小是義務教育這個0到6歲的孩子他是無處深淵也沒有人知道他對家庭暴力遭受這樣的一個傷害還沒有人知道甚至啊受虐至死到這麼樣的一個嚴重的情況為什麼我們的法院\n122697\t144104\t條文刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第十七條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案\n145584\t154627\t條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及\n167350\t190523\t如果說檢察官他的稅理夠強、舉證夠強,那上級審爭奪這些情形,他會做一個什麼?副局長,因為你們都法務部開戰了,跟柯委員拔我們不敢跟法務部開戰,但是因為具體的案情我不是柯委員,我是副委員,那個不要緊張,本期要再次強調\n193052\t220154\t今天最後衡量的那把尺還是在法官手上所以本席不是來苛責司法院這是確確實實司法院不服人民的期待所以我們要用什麼樣的層面讓司法院的法官把尺度能夠更接近社會大家共同的想法\n221564\t248918\t我們不希望再有恐龍法官我們要趨近於現世社會當中所有的民間的氛圍本席在這裡跟你商量一下我們的社會安全網真的破而且破得非常非常的嚴重今天如果司法有嚇阻力有這麼多案件不斷的發生不斷的快速的成長\n251393\t278518\t條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八\n279650\t298884\t三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖�\n309143\t335891\t還在認為他可以逃避法律的制裁來對這些孩童用這麼粗暴殘忍的方式來對待是我們的法院生病還是我們的法律真的是不髒我們再看直接對幼童我們講到就直接的性侵案2016年\n337611\t364576\t只有78人到2023年去年離374人請問這又是幾倍啊不要規則在法院現在的檢察官只要看到這種案件他不敢不起訴也不敢吃案可以吃別種案這種案他不敢吃政治的案件會吃案經常看到吃案但是\n366231\t387410\t這種性侵誘惑的案他們絕對不敢吃案但是到了法院法院的天平到底在哪裡你看這種成長率請問一下司法院沒有失職嗎從78人端端幾年成長到374人還有沒有爆發的還有多少件還不曉得\n388892\t417034\t次長有什麼想法?副秘書長有什麼想法?跟委員報告,當然案件是整個社會教育環境,但是案件起訴到檢察官偵查,如果起訴到法院,剛才次長也有講,幾乎都是有罪的。那接下來就是說,良刑,當然剛才跟委員報告很具體的案情,但是我們現在司法案確實也都是在,不是只有針對這些兒少性的各種的案件的這些的良刑,我們也正在研究各方面的良刑的基準。\n418533\t446916\t本期是希望你把今天委員會的發言帶回去司法院跟所有的法官要有一個基本的一個共識一個孩子的成長只有一次他被這樣的虐待甚至小小的生命變成責任的天使我們何其痛苦看到社會發生這樣的情況我們看看\n448137\t474166\t一百零八年才修完法加重完全沒有用持續發生案件不斷的在增加剛剛副院長講到一句話是蠻對的我們的社會生病了因為我們的教育出了問題今天為什麼教育做成這個樣子但是不要忘記了法律跟司法院是我們最後一道防線\n475768\t498658\t去彌補教育的失敗。」所以啊本席在這裡再一次啊對副秘書長我們不能再看到這樣的案情再發生希望透過這次的修法能夠讓社會這樣的暴力事件能夠降下來凌虐致死本來就是殺人案\n499980\t520771\t本來就是殺人案所以在這裡希望今天秘書長沒有來但是我們更期待副院長回去溝通有跟院長、副院長溝通是不是我們司法院能夠這一方面真正有一個他們肩膀上的責任該擔的要擔好不好謝謝謝謝\n","txt":"條文修正草案．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期司法及法制委員會第13屆第12會期\n委員好,今天秘書長請假是嗎?是,跟委員報告,是,秘書長請假。本席在這希望以後這種社會矚目而且非常重大的法院在討論的時候,希望秘書長能夠出席,好不好?是,是,是,今天謝謝。副秘書長,我想我們今天\n對兒少女兒案的討論和修法相關的討論。我想最重要的只要事情發生在法務部的檢察署勢必會起訴但是這起訴以後法院在法官的自由行政裡面\n到底把虐而暗當作什麼樣的情況來看待?我現在必須要特別強調一個孩子的成長只有一次當時他所受到的環境是如此的暴力相向未來他的個性成長以後認為這就是理所當然\n每一個受虐的兒童尤其在就讀國小以下因為國小是義務教育這個0到6歲的孩子他是無處深淵也沒有人知道他對家庭暴力遭受這樣的一個傷害還沒有人知道甚至啊受虐至死到這麼樣的一個嚴重的情況為什麼我們的法院\n條文刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．立法院第十七條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案．立法院第十八條條文修正草案\n條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及法制委員會及\n如果說檢察官他的稅理夠強、舉證夠強,那上級審爭奪這些情形,他會做一個什麼?副局長,因為你們都法務部開戰了,跟柯委員拔我們不敢跟法務部開戰,但是因為具體的案情我不是柯委員,我是副委員,那個不要緊張,本期要再次強調\n今天最後衡量的那把尺還是在法官手上所以本席不是來苛責司法院這是確確實實司法院不服人民的期待所以我們要用什麼樣的層面讓司法院的法官把尺度能夠更接近社會大家共同的想法\n我們不希望再有恐龍法官我們要趨近於現世社會當中所有的民間的氛圍本席在這裡跟你商量一下我們的社會安全網真的破而且破得非常非常的嚴重今天如果司法有嚇阻力有這麼多案件不斷的發生不斷的快速的成長\n條文修正草案（事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條條文修正草案．事由．立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制委員會等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八\n三）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖偉翔等19人擬具:「中華民國刑法第二百八十六條條文修正草案．一）委員廖�\n還在認為他可以逃避法律的制裁來對這些孩童用這麼粗暴殘忍的方式來對待是我們的法院生病還是我們的法律真的是不髒我們再看直接對幼童我們講到就直接的性侵案2016年\n只有78人到2023年去年離374人請問這又是幾倍啊不要規則在法院現在的檢察官只要看到這種案件他不敢不起訴也不敢吃案可以吃別種案這種案他不敢吃政治的案件會吃案經常看到吃案但是\n這種性侵誘惑的案他們絕對不敢吃案但是到了法院法院的天平到底在哪裡你看這種成長率請問一下司法院沒有失職嗎從78人端端幾年成長到374人還有沒有爆發的還有多少件還不曉得\n次長有什麼想法?副秘書長有什麼想法?跟委員報告,當然案件是整個社會教育環境,但是案件起訴到檢察官偵查,如果起訴到法院,剛才次長也有講,幾乎都是有罪的。那接下來就是說,良刑,當然剛才跟委員報告很具體的案情,但是我們現在司法案確實也都是在,不是只有針對這些兒少性的各種的案件的這些的良刑,我們也正在研究各方面的良刑的基準。\n本期是希望你把今天委員會的發言帶回去司法院跟所有的法官要有一個基本的一個共識一個孩子的成長只有一次他被這樣的虐待甚至小小的生命變成責任的天使我們何其痛苦看到社會發生這樣的情況我們看看\n一百零八年才修完法加重完全沒有用持續發生案件不斷的在增加剛剛副院長講到一句話是蠻對的我們的社會生病了因為我們的教育出了問題今天為什麼教育做成這個樣子但是不要忘記了法律跟司法院是我們最後一道防線\n去彌補教育的失敗。」所以啊本席在這裡再一次啊對副秘書長我們不能再看到這樣的案情再發生希望透過這次的修法能夠讓社會這樣的暴力事件能夠降下來凌虐致死本來就是殺人案\n本來就是殺人案所以在這裡希望今天秘書長沒有來但是我們更期待副院長回去溝通有跟院長、副院長溝通是不是我們司法院能夠這一方面真正有一個他們肩膀上的責任該擔的要擔好不好謝謝謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.195 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