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00:02:23,334\n質詢、互動那特別是在我們陳建仁這個院長的總質詢的時候我提出了要要求金管會比照綠色金融政策來建立高齡社會的金融政策因為就是我在提倡的所謂壯世代現在55歲以上的人在台灣有800萬人了這一群人掌握了三分之二的台灣的\n\n8\n00:02:24,494 --> 00:02:30,439\n主委在經過這些溝通當中也有感所以我們的綠色金融做得非常成功在你手上推動得非常成功\n\n9\n00:02:43,809 --> 00:03:01,837\n所以很有經驗也希望你比照這樣子來建立高齡社會的金融戰略提出金融行動方案還有上市規公司的永續發展的報告這兩項我在上禮拜有得到金管會\n\n10\n00:03:02,937 --> 00:03:03,337\n金管會公文4月12日\n\n11\n00:03:30,129 --> 00:03:54,061\n承諾了剛才那個是陳建仁院長同意的兩個措施我在這裡再次宣誓一次第一點就是金管會克正研擬高齡金融行動方案持續強化促進高齡經濟發展相關措施構築高齡者友善金融環境\n\n12\n00:03:55,242 --> 00:04:15,436\n那金管會在這裡有認知高齡者需求具有高度的益職性不要以前都一視視為老人高齡者不應被視為社會的依賴者應該發展多元的服務方案讓高齡者有自主選擇的空間滿足其益職性的需求\n\n13\n00:04:17,277 --> 00:04:39,006\n所以第二點就是要對於高齡者可以鬆綁商品的限制可以從事多元金融的商品投資簡化投資的手續那第三點就金管會現在呢克正對於多元高齡族群的金融需求嚴密高齡金融行動方案\n\n14\n00:04:40,607 --> 00:05:07,964\n初步規劃從資金面向、商品面向、培力面向還有生態系的面向四大推動面向來翻轉這個高齡金融的族群的需求那希望這個剛才可以看得出來主委有聽進去朝著這個構築四大面向要來推動這個高齡的金融那第二點\n\n15\n00:05:09,653 --> 00:05:25,892\n就是有關上市櫃公司的高齡永續發展的措施那金管會會把這個治理的評鑑指標類為要求交易所來列入上市櫃公司做報告的事項\n\n16\n00:05:26,713 --> 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