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00:02:35,231\n五百三十萬件左右但是呢在去年修法之後在一百二十那個一百一十二年整年就有八百多萬件的檢舉案件那檢舉如果說\n\n8\n00:02:38,374 --> 00:03:04,067\n對於交通安全有以及交通這些有改善有幫助的話我知道大家都很辛苦不過就是說我們還是希望這個未來執法上面能更加的謹慎那部長我想就是之前我們召委召開所謂一個立法院的一個公聽會裡面現在比較大的問題是所謂職業駕駛的一個反彈尤其我們台北市的汽車駕駛職業公會說職業建造被調扣兩個月已經高達\n\n9\n00:03:07,689 --> 00:03:34,349\n兩千五百位及滿六點的也高達一萬五千位那其實現在所謂的職業駕駛這個是所謂一家人的生計問題那針對這個部分我們當然我們對於用路人的安全我們站在一定安全的考量我們是本席這邊跟我們很多的委員我們都支持這個嚴格執法但有沒有可能針對職業駕駛跟一般的駕駛這個違規記點的制度做一個分流的一個機制\n\n10\n00:03:35,887 --> 00:04:00,735\n現在是沒有。現在就是用1200的這個所謂的清違規不接受檢舉的這個方式而且我們現在的祭典那個民眾檢舉也不祭典我們這次修法也是這樣我想說除了職業駕駛事實上一般民眾也反映很多不只職業駕駛所以想說一個法令好像也沒辦法去分職業駕駛跟一般駕駛我們這次是通用一次來檢討這樣\n\n11\n00:04:02,984 --> 00:04:27,173\n那這部分還是請我們列入一下因為畢竟這個很多的生機問題要考量這一次這個就是有很多是在職業駕駛還有一般民眾意見都這一次把它放到裡面那我想昨天我們在業務大選部分也有很多的委員針對所謂的一個落實高風險路段有提出質詢那針對這部分我們調查相關的資料發現台鐵公司跟高工局對於\n\n12\n00:04:29,094 --> 00:04:53,922\n4月10日這個普悠瑪這個事件的那個看法不一致那部長是不是認為我們針對我們交通單位是不是應該做一個統整的一個橫向聯繫這個部分這沒問題這個我事實上跟公路局還有台鐵公司也討論過因為他這一次的落實是在公路的邊坡掉到鐵路所以想說在整個未來這一個黃落實的防患機制應該考慮更廣一點\n\n13\n00:04:56,443 --> 00:05:07,172\n所以我想這部分我也跟這個局長跟董事長談過他們必要的話在台鐵雖然他自己的變貨沒問題但是也需要加設這個這個落實的一些相關系統\n\n14\n00:05:09,881 --> 00:05:34,882\n因為我們台鐵公司有在今年說會增加38處的一個警示的一個裝置但是本期還是要提醒我們交通部跟我們台鐵公司其實我們包含屏東還有好幾個縣市都有一個叫做土石流的一個危險那除了這個落石警告之外那針對土石流跟相關的一些危險的部分有沒有做怎麼樣一個安全的一個警示\n\n15\n00:05:37,946 --> 00:05:51,344\n有關於屏東縣禁其實我們也有期出的落實告警有關於其他邊坡的偵測我們現在也是有制度這個部分我們會再去加強\n\n16\n00:05:52,962 --> 00:06:17,574\n根據本席掉月的相關資料我們全台灣總共有1700多個土石流潛勢的流域其中只有86處有一個告警系統一定是不足夠的那我想我們交通部不能頭痛一頭腳痛一腳那未來是不是應該針對全台的一個邊坡進行全面的盤點強化我們所謂安全的一個專案的一個計畫\n\n17\n00:06:18,234 --> 00:06:43,807\n好他們我想這部分請他事實上這些地震不只做花蓮我們事實上在橋樑行捲是全國全國的我想如果有必要的部分我想就加做這應該要盡快尤其我們現在那個汛期要來臨齁這個風太大雨一來我想造成土石的危害這個有時候造成這個很多的事故麻煩交通部這邊盡快能夠來辦理\n\n18\n00:06:44,906 --> 00:06:51,391\n新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞新聞\n\n19\n00:07:15,071 --> 00:07:39,184\n是,這次的確有一點點低估了所以的確有這個7個縣市沒有發布相關訊息那這個部分我們已經做了相關的檢討並且也提出了一些改善方案下個禮拜會有這個召集了學者專家針對所有相關的改善方案去做比較深入的討論然後未來期待我們在未來在做這個預估的時候能夠更加精準\n\n20\n00:07:40,727 --> 00:07:57,339\n稍等我還是要提醒一下因為上次我們業務諮詢有提到我們因為預算的關係那個海底電纜建置的部分長度有縮短所以預報的時間可能慢了10秒這個是非常大的一個問題部長這部分能不能再支持我們的預算\n\n21\n00:07:59,541 --> 00:08:08,432\n有關海嵐南部海嵐這件事情的確中間的波折非常非常的多那當然現在我們報了二次的修訂計畫目前南部海嵐這邊的預定的這個長度從800公里縮短為200公里那從6個這個偵測點縮減為3個偵測點\n\n22\n00:08:16,181 --> 00:08:45,435\n那相關的這個在地震的預警上面大概還可以做到10到15秒海嘯的預警大概可以做到20分鐘那如果我們考慮石川縣的相關的這個地震他們實際發生地震海嘯疏散預警的狀態來看這個時間大概還能夠能夠達到這個我們在特別在南部地區所需要的預警的效果這部分我們還是要盡快辦理部長這部分是不是支持一下我們的預算是好沒問題好謝謝\n\n23\n00:08:46,906 --> 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前南部海嵐這邊的預定的這個長度從800公里縮短為200公里那從6個這個偵測點縮減為3個偵測點\n那相關的這個在地震的預警上面大概還可以做到10到15秒海嘯的預警大概可以做到20分鐘那如果我們考慮石川縣的相關的這個地震他們實際發生地震海嘯疏散預警的狀態來看這個時間大概還能夠能夠達到這個我們在特別在南部地區所需要的預警的效果這部分我們還是要盡快辦理部長這部分是不是支持一下我們的預算是好沒問題好謝謝\n報告。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.810 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