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00:01:15,864\n合併民進黨政府還要不要再推動?然後我們先回顧一下2021年9月6號的時候前新竹市長林志堅接受媒體專訪大篇幅的倡議新竹市跟新竹縣要合併\n\n5\n00:01:17,473 --> 00:01:41,239\n這個只是林志堅他個人的意見嗎?看起來好像也不是這個時候民主進步黨的府院高層說這個足足合併要由中央由上而下來加以推動來請教一下次長這一個政策的目標跟這一個政策的方向有沒有任何改變報告委員\n\n6\n00:01:44,451 --> 00:02:11,846\n有關於這個合併要升格為直轄市的部分那現在有兩個機制一個是由上而下一個是由下而上嘛這個我知道一樣的事情就不要再講了我已經點出來啊當初府院高層民主進步黨政府啊說這個是要由上而下來加以推動啊所以我才問你政策立場有沒有改變啊目前這一部分沒有沒有我這邊沒有去接受到說這個政策有改變\n\n7\n00:02:12,797 --> 00:02:28,474\n沒有接受到這個政策的改變好那非常好那從2021年到目前為止2024年啊蔡政府已經要下台了那既然政策方向沒有改變那過去這兩年多具體而言請問你們做了什麼\n\n8\n00:02:29,594 --> 00:02:50,943\n還是只是在媒體上面放話配合選舉炒作實際上什麼事情都沒幹如果政策方向沒有改變的話那你們就有必要具體的告訴國人針對足足何必由上而下推動政策方向沒有改變那請問我們的主管機關做了什麼\n\n9\n00:02:52,452 --> 00:03:16,661\n八位不管是由上而下或者由下而上都必須要尊重這個名義這一部分你定的這不是我的問題我問你的是你剛說政策方向沒改變嘛由上而下嘛足足合併嘛我的問題是這是在媒體上放話還是有具體的作為所以我請教你的是過去這兩年多你們具體的作為是什麼\n\n10\n00:03:19,493 --> 00:03:40,129\n現在因為我們現在也正在推這個行政區劃的程序法現在也在推這個你們在推行政區劃程序法目前推動的進度如何現在在行政院那邊審查你們行政院快要下台啦行政院還在審查啊他審查也有提供意見給我們要補負資料上去啦\n\n11\n00:03:41,028 --> 00:04:07,697\n所以我就說嘛你們行政院519就要下台啦結果現在還在打高空說空話說你們在規劃行政區域劃分法這不是很可笑嗎除了你們還在演你的行政區域劃分法以外你剛說政策方向沒有改變由上而下推動沒有改變你還是沒有回答我的問題具體而言過去這兩年多中央政府做了什麼\n\n12\n00:04:09,828 --> 00:04:36,146\n我要的是中央政府做了什麼請告訴大家你們如何推動這個方向沒有改變的政策過去兩年多做了什麼請告訴大家所以這就是為什麼剛剛跟委員報告就現在我們在推這個行政修法這個程序法只要這個完成之後大家就有法院的預計來處理這個問題很顯然嘛在蔡政府519下台以前這是不可能完成的嘛我有沒有說錯\n\n13\n00:04:37,695 --> 00:04:53,441\n以這個進度是的確是這樣對嘛所以從頭到尾你還是在講空話我問你具體做了什麼你說要推進這個計劃分法那519之前可能提出來嗎?也不可能嘛從頭到尾就在講空話嘛我說的不對嗎?\n\n14\n00:04:54,861 --> 00:05:19,037\n如果我說的不對請您具體指教您做了什麼是全體國人不知道我沒有我疏忽沒有注意到就大聲的告訴全體的國民我們內政部針對2021年由上而下政策方向沒有改變我們足足要合併的這件事情到底做了什麼報告委員我剛剛特別講就是法定的完備上現在正在做\n\n15\n00:05:19,926 --> 00:05:42,991\n那除了這個由上而下的話由下而上也可以啊也不一定要由上而下沒有關係所以我一開始就定調嘛我就不喜歡你們在回答問題的時候不針對問題回答東拉西扯扯一些沒的就只是要掩飾一件事嘛掩飾什麼事這從頭到尾就是為了選舉的炒作嘛什麼時候關心過新竹市新竹縣\n\n16\n00:05:44,284 --> 00:06:10,021\n真的關心嗎?真的關心是這種作為嗎?選舉熱度過以後想要幫小智解套失敗了以後就什麼都沒有做嘛這才是現實啊為什麼今天要在地方制度法的時候提出這個質詢啊任何政黨都有可能執政在執政的時候如果是以一黨之師為特定人量身打造的制度\n\n17\n00:06:11,479 --> 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所以從頭到尾你還是在講空話我問你具體做了什麼你說要推進這個計劃分法那519之前可能提出來嗎?也不可能嘛從頭到尾就在講空話嘛我說的不對嗎?\n294861\t319037\t如果我說的不對請您具體指教您做了什麼是全體國人不知道我沒有我疏忽沒有注意到就大聲的告訴全體的國民我們內政部針對2021年由上而下政策方向沒有改變我們足足要合併的這件事情到底做了什麼報告委員我剛剛特別講就是法定的完備上現在正在做\n319926\t342991\t那除了這個由上而下的話 由下而上也可以啊 也不一定要由上而下沒有關係 所以我一開始就定調嘛 我就不喜歡你們在回答問題的時候不針對問題回答東拉西扯 扯一些沒的 就只是要掩飾一件事嘛 掩飾什麼事這從頭到尾就是為了選舉的炒作嘛 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所以從頭到尾你還是在講空話我問你具體做了什麼你說要推進這個計劃分法那519之前可能提出來嗎?也不可能嘛從頭到尾就在講空話嘛我說的不對嗎?\n如果我說的不對請您具體指教您做了什麼是全體國人不知道我沒有我疏忽沒有注意到就大聲的告訴全體的國民我們內政部針對2021年由上而下政策方向沒有改變我們足足要合併的這件事情到底做了什麼報告委員我剛剛特別講就是法定的完備上現在正在做\n那除了這個由上而下的話 由下而上也可以啊 也不一定要由上而下沒有關係 所以我一開始就定調嘛 我就不喜歡你們在回答問題的時候不針對問題回答東拉西扯 扯一些沒的 就只是要掩飾一件事嘛 掩飾什麼事這從頭到尾就是為了選舉的炒作嘛 什麼時候關心過新竹市新竹縣\n真的關心嗎?真的關心是這種作為嗎?選舉熱度過以後想要幫小智解套失敗了以後就什麼都沒有做嘛這才是現實啊為什麼今天要在地方制度法的時候提出這個質詢啊任何政黨都有可能執政在執政的時候如果是以一黨之師為特定人量身打造的制度\n我個人是期期以為不可拿國家的制度在開玩笑等到發現社會反彈太大解套不成結果整件事情殺手不管你們關心誰只有關心特定的政治人物可不可以選真的關心新竹市跟新竹縣的縣民你們今天的具體作為就不會是這個樣子擺爛\n也不是啦!也不是說擺爛啦!因為我們還是有在做嘛!我們在法令給還在完備法令給在進行當中嘛!2023年做了什麼?針對新竹縣市的合併做了什麼評估?做了什麼規劃?做了什麼推動?我具體的請教你啦!我行政執行的時間當中除了你說老掉牙的行政區位劃分法研議了半天研議到519要下台都提不出來除了這個以外你還有什麼可以說的?\n也不必然一定要跟選舉畫上等號沒有不是我跟選舉畫上等號是整個操作是民主進步黨的操作把他跟選舉畫上等號怎麼會是我把他跟選舉畫上等號呢民進黨做的事情現在賴到我頭上了這樣不對吧不是啦沒有關係主席已經站起來了我尊重主席謝謝非常謝謝黃國昌委員的質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.632 --> 00:07.618\n那現在主席麻煩有請次長有請吳次長\n\n00:14.465 --> 00:40.868\n市長今天討論地方制度法雖然是有關乎我們原民的同胞原民的夥伴他們有關於一人席次的問題不過當我們在討論地方制度法的時候跟我們整個國家的發展區域的規劃息息相關的就是各個縣市乃至於都在地方自治的單位上我們要怎麼劃設的事情\n\n00:41.724 --> 00:56.524\n有一個我覺得是非常嚴肅的問題但這個嚴肅的問題隨著選舉的炒作浮上檯面了以後現在似乎沒有人要提了也就是竹竹新竹市新竹縣\n\n00:57.685 --> 01:15.864\n合併民進黨政府還要不要再推動?然後我們先回顧一下2021年9月6號的時候前新竹市長林志堅接受媒體專訪大篇幅的倡議新竹市跟新竹縣要合併\n\n01:17.473 --> 01:41.239\n這個只是林志堅他個人的意見嗎?看起來好像也不是這個時候民主進步黨的府院高層說這個足足合併要由中央由上而下來加以推動來請教一下次長這一個政策的目標跟這一個政策的方向有沒有任何改變報告委員\n\n01:44.451 --> 02:11.846\n有關於這個合併要升格為直轄市的部分那現在有兩個機制一個是由上而下一個是由下而上嘛這個我知道一樣的事情就不要再講了我已經點出來啊當初府院高層民主進步黨政府啊說這個是要由上而下來加以推動啊所以我才問你政策立場有沒有改變啊目前這一部分沒有沒有我這邊沒有去接受到說這個政策有改變\n\n02:12.797 --> 02:28.474\n沒有接受到這個政策的改變好那非常好那從2021年到目前為止2024年啊蔡政府已經要下台了那既然政策方向沒有改變那過去這兩年多具體而言請問你們做了什麼\n\n02:29.594 --> 02:50.943\n還是只是在媒體上面放話配合選舉炒作實際上什麼事情都沒幹如果政策方向沒有改變的話那你們就有必要具體的告訴國人針對足足何必由上而下推動政策方向沒有改變那請問我們的主管機關做了什麼\n\n02:52.452 --> 03:16.661\n八位不管是由上而下或者由下而上都必須要尊重這個名義這一部分你定的這不是我的問題我問你的是你剛說政策方向沒改變嘛由上而下嘛足足合併嘛我的問題是這是在媒體上放話還是有具體的作為所以我請教你的是過去這兩年多你們具體的作為是什麼\n\n03:19.493 --> 03:40.129\n現在因為我們現在也正在推這個行政區劃的程序法現在也在推這個你們在推行政區劃程序法目前推動的進度如何現在在行政院那邊審查你們行政院快要下台啦行政院還在審查啊他審查也有提供意見給我們要補負資料上去啦\n\n03:41.028 --> 04:07.697\n所以我就說嘛你們行政院519就要下台啦結果現在還在打高空說空話說你們在規劃行政區域劃分法這不是很可笑嗎除了你們還在演你的行政區域劃分法以外你剛說政策方向沒有改變由上而下推動沒有改變你還是沒有回答我的問題具體而言過去這兩年多中央政府做了什麼\n\n04:09.828 --> 04:36.146\n我要的是中央政府做了什麼請告訴大家你們如何推動這個方向沒有改變的政策過去兩年多做了什麼請告訴大家所以這就是為什麼剛剛跟委員報告就現在我們在推這個行政修法這個程序法只要這個完成之後大家就有法院的預計來處理這個問題很顯然嘛在蔡政府519下台以前這是不可能完成的嘛我有沒有說錯\n\n04:37.695 --> 04:53.441\n以這個進度是的確是這樣對嘛所以從頭到尾你還是在講空話我問你具體做了什麼你說要推進這個計劃分法那519之前可能提出來嗎?也不可能嘛從頭到尾就在講空話嘛我說的不對嗎?\n\n04:54.861 --> 05:19.037\n如果我說的不對請您具體指教您做了什麼是全體國人不知道我沒有我疏忽沒有注意到就大聲的告訴全體的國民我們內政部針對2021年由上而下政策方向沒有改變我們足足要合併的這件事情到底做了什麼報告委員我剛剛特別講就是法定的完備上現在正在做\n\n05:19.926 --> 05:42.991\n那除了這個由上而下的話由下而上也可以啊也不一定要由上而下沒有關係所以我一開始就定調嘛我就不喜歡你們在回答問題的時候不針對問題回答東拉西扯扯一些沒的就只是要掩飾一件事嘛掩飾什麼事這從頭到尾就是為了選舉的炒作嘛什麼時候關心過新竹市新竹縣\n\n05:44.284 --> 06:10.021\n真的關心嗎?真的關心是這種作為嗎?選舉熱度過以後想要幫小智解套失敗了以後就什麼都沒有做嘛這才是現實啊為什麼今天要在地方制度法的時候提出這個質詢啊任何政黨都有可能執政在執政的時候如果是以一黨之師為特定人量身打造的制度\n\n06:11.479 --> 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