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00:01:57,675\n呃我我想大概是國旗吧齁那我們在我們的這個僑委會的logo裡面第一個就是國旗了小到我真的是看不到我當然知道那是僑委會的logo裡面有一個國旗但是那個小到我真是我真是看是看不太到那我相信很多的僑胞也看不到\n\n6\n00:01:58,135 --> 00:02:13,531\n其實是有一些僑胞他們就有來反應他們覺得呢能夠來參加這樣子的一個盛會的話那是很好的一件事也很開心這個我們的僑委會對他們有做這樣的邀請可是呢他覺得我們在中華民國的總統副總統的就職慶典活動\n\n7\n00:02:16,494 --> 00:02:44,665\n也希望能夠看到中華民國的國旗這樣子的象徵如果有的話對於邀請他們來他們一定會覺得感受是更好的比方說像我們這個總統府的這個圖像上面有一個國旗但看不出是什麼旗幟人家如果不了解還以為五星旗這個都太紅了嘛我們這跟人家是應該是差別很大的所以說是不是在設計上面比方說你們已經有放了一個總統府的元素上面插了一隻旗子的話\n\n8\n00:02:45,385 --> 00:03:10,556\n那是不是最最最最最起碼我已經退五萬步來說至少內面國旗要是中華民國的國旗而不是擺一個好像就是說我們玩遊戲的時候紅旗白旗黃旗的紅旗我覺得這個部分是應該要有所修正的是不太妥適的所以當然您剛也說明了有看到很小很小的國旗在那個地方可是我們既然這個圖像很明顯的是我們的總統府那我們的總統府這個確實是設計不當的地方\n\n9\n00:03:14,818 --> 00:03:24,242\n所以這個部分是不是能夠做一些的調整因為我們來看一下其他的過去的時候我們的僑委會就都有做到不管是在112年110年雖然這個也是比較小一些的然後呢在109年\n\n10\n00:03:29,924 --> 00:03:52,254\n所以我們調出了10910112年的國慶的慶典活動其實我們僑委會並不是要去避開這些國旗的過去都曾經有這個元素可是可能今年在整個準備設計上面那有疏漏的地方那我們希望回到上一章我們希望能夠去做一些修正最起碼是已經有總統府的意向了\n\n11\n00:03:52,974 --> 00:04:06,790\n我們來把這張圖做一些修正好那就麻煩我們委員長可以做一些修正那我們希望說未來我們在這些僑胞引頸期待的中華民國的民主盛世能夠看到中華民國的象徵意義\n\n12\n00:04:09,112 --> 00:04:27,271\n臺積電現在到美國日本來設廠共通性都在於招募了大量的本國及員工到當地去就業這是很好的事情但是先前僑委會說要評估在鳳凰城設僑教中心我想要請問一下後續的進度是如何的\n\n13\n00:04:29,033 --> 00:04:29,373\n徐巧芯委員\n\n14\n00:04:59,513 --> 00:04:59,573\n徐巧芯\n\n15\n00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:22,421\n整條產業鏈如果未來真的都去進駐現在是只有台積電在設廠產業鏈還沒有跟著去所以確實在未來5到10年間如果整個台積電周邊的產業鏈各種企業一起前進的話數量上確實是會有很多的增加\n\n16\n00:05:37,626 --> 00:05:48,629\n那我們也會在那個數量的變化當中密切的來評估說如果要再多增設一個僑教中心那我們要去租場地要再派駐員額的時候要怎麼樣來做調整那我們未來會來做這個今年度的這個評估報告的時候把它清楚的話畫進去\n\n17\n00:05:58,592 --> 00:06:26,573\n所以因為這是在2023年11月去年11月的時候說有要做這樣的評估所以我想要進一步請問一下我們先不講後續還有這麼多的事情要做那請問我們評估應該會做一個評估的報告來分析說那未來我們大概幾年之內要做考量人數從現在目前是多少那到多少之後可能要開始啟動請問這樣子的一個評估的報告或是說明在今年度會出來嗎在什麼時候會有比較具體的一個說明\n\n18\n00:06:29,276 --> 00:06:34,403\n跟委員報告因為之前確實台積電在設廠進度上有一點點延遲所以配合的這個相關產業鏈好像也會有觀望的狀況\n\n19\n00:06:43,995 --> 00:06:51,622\n這也是為什麼我們在這件事情上也稍微厚助一下但是如果現在美方對於台積電的補助案各項的進度都一直在往前推的時候我們也會願意在今年的這個時間點裡面可能是下半年我們會請我們的同仁呢就近收集更多的這個僑民的人數資料以及可能的\n\n20\n00:07:10,558 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521我們也都很歡迎海外同胞能夠共同的來參與我想這個心情是一樣的但是不曉得徐委員長有沒有感覺到在這個文宣上面少了一個什麼樣的一個東西或者是一個蠻必要的細節\n呃 我 我想大概是國旗吧齁那我們在我們的這個僑委會的logo裡面第一個就是國旗了小到我真的是看不到我當然知道那是僑委會的logo裡面有一個國旗但是那個小到我真是我真是看是看不太到那我相信很多的僑胞也看不到\n其實是有一些僑胞他們就有來反應他們覺得呢能夠來參加這樣子的一個盛會的話那是很好的一件事也很開心這個我們的僑委會對他們有做這樣的邀請可是呢他覺得我們在中華民國的總統副總統的就職慶典活動\n也希望能夠看到中華民國的國旗這樣子的象徵如果有的話對於邀請他們來他們一定會覺得感受是更好的比方說像我們這個總統府的這個圖像上面有一個國旗但看不出是什麼旗幟人家如果不了解還以為五星旗這個都太紅了嘛我們這跟人家是應該是差別很大的所以說是不是在設計上面比方說你們已經有放了一個總統府的元素上面插了一隻旗子的話\n那是不是最最最最最起碼我已經退五萬步來說至少內面國旗要是中華民國的國旗而不是擺一個好像就是說我們玩遊戲的時候紅旗白旗黃旗的紅旗我覺得這個部分是應該要有所修正的是不太妥適的所以當然您剛也說明了有看到很小很小的國旗在那個地方可是我們既然這個圖像很明顯的是我們的總統府那我們的總統府這個確實是設計不當的地方\n所以這個部分是不是能夠做一些的調整因為我們來看一下其他的過去的時候我們的僑委會就都有做到不管是在112年110年雖然這個也是比較小一些的然後呢在109年\n所以我們調出了10910112年的國慶的慶典活動其實我們僑委會並不是要去避開這些國旗的過去都曾經有這個元素可是可能今年在整個準備設計上面那有疏漏的地方那我們希望回到上一章我們希望能夠去做一些修正最起碼是已經有總統府的意向了\n我們來把這張圖做一些修正好 那就麻煩我們委員長可以做一些修正那我們希望說未來我們在這些僑胞引頸期待的中華民國的民主盛世能夠看到中華民國的象徵意義\n臺積電現在到美國日本來設廠共通性都在於招募了大量的本國及員工到當地去就業這是很好的事情但是先前僑委會說要評估在鳳凰城設僑教中心我想要請問一下後續的進度是如何的\n徐巧芯委員\n徐巧芯\n整條產業鏈如果未來真的都去進駐現在是只有台積電在設廠產業鏈還沒有跟著去所以確實在未來5到10年間如果整個台積電周邊的產業鏈各種企業一起前進的話數量上確實是會有很多的增加\n那我們也會在那個數量的變化當中密切的來評估說如果要再多增設一個僑教中心那我們要去租場地要再派駐員額的時候要怎麼樣來做調整那我們未來會來做這個今年度的這個評估報告的時候把它清楚的話畫進去\n所以因為這是在2023年11月去年11月的時候說有要做這樣的評估所以我想要進一步請問一下我們先不講後續還有這麼多的事情要做那請問我們評估應該會做一個評估的報告來分析說那未來我們大概幾年之內要做考量人數從現在目前是多少那到多少之後可能要開始啟動請問這樣子的一個評估的報告或是說明在今年度會出來嗎在什麼時候會有比較具體的一個說明\n跟委員報告因為之前確實台積電在設廠進度上有一點點延遲所以配合的這個相關產業鏈好像也會有觀望的狀況\n這也是為什麼我們在這件事情上也稍微厚助一下但是如果現在美方對於台積電的補助案各項的進度都一直在往前推的時候我們也會願意在今年的這個時間點裡面可能是下半年我們會請我們的同仁呢就近收集更多的這個僑民的人數資料以及可能的\n請問除了我們在臺積電到美國鳳凰城設廠之外現在大家也很關心的是到日本的熊本那在日本熊本的部分的設廠我們有沒有考慮規劃評估設僑教中心\n跟委員報告僑教中心的設置到目前為止全球16個它的成本真的非常高那以我們僑委會的預算結構事實上是非常的緊迫那這個都是早期已經有採購了那以我們現在的狀況要買要租都非常非常困難\n即便是我們在日本我們也只有派兩個僑務秘書分別進駐東京以及大阪的住處那一個在關東一個在關西關西的就要就近協助九州的部分那關東的部分呢要往上去到北海道所以我們是在這種很緊迫的狀況之下暫時不太有可能說特別派一個秘書去到九州\n但是我相信我們在福岡的辦事處他們會有一位外交同仁一定會多協助跟我們同仁在大阪的部分加強去那邊做移動式的服務這樣子\n好那所以說在這個部分希望不管是在美國鳳凰城或者在熊本那都是因為台積電的設廠那以致於我們有很多的台灣人都到這些地方去那我們就希望說僑委會在提供相關的照顧上面能夠做得更好然後提供他們應該要有的這個相關協助\n徐巧芯\n徐巧芯\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.470 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