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00:02:18,932\n如果你是要走這個來臺灣用華語的教學路線的\n\n8\n00:02:33,447 --> 00:02:54,857\n那我們就建議你就跟僑委會來申請那用我們的獎學金那如果你是要走外籍生的路線的我們就不管你的這個身份是什麼你說外籍生的路線的那你就考慮跟教育部或外交部去申請那所以他要先確定他是屬於哪一種類別所以他只會有一個方向申請不會說他同時申請外交部又可以申請僑委會不會我們公務部門不會讓這個兩個東西同時並行這樣子\n\n9\n00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,420\n因為每個僑生來台灣都不是台灣人,又不同國家的人\n\n10\n00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:29,890\n所以說這種亂象還有就是要去爭取的這邊層次沒有一個整合跟麥家報告對確實您指示的非常方向是正確我們也顧慮到這一點說來自各國的學生他的資訊一定要有非常清楚而且非常充分他才能夠了解內容所以以我僑委會來講\n\n11\n00:03:50,956 --> 00:04:08,805\n我雖然大部分雖然說是用華語為核心可是事實上在執行面上我這幾年下來我們已經用多語的如果去到越南我一定是用粵語加上華語並行兩種語言去到柬埔寨就是柬埔寨語跟華語\n\n12\n00:04:10,346 --> 00:04:35,757\n去到菲律賓我們就是英語跟華語到印尼我們就是用印尼語跟華語所以不管是我們的海報單張或者是我們的影片我們都會做到這個程度那甚至我們也會找僑生來協助我們做一些錄音用當地的語言來解釋這樣子的話家長、老師、學生他才會比較清楚可以了解\n\n13\n00:04:36,477 --> 00:04:42,521\n好謝謝所以因為在全國各大產業就是都在缺工但是呢因為低薪就是導致少子化但是我們現在就是產業發展的失衡等等所以造成很大的缺工但是各個部分各部門在台灣的就是招生的部分的話就是像半導體啊資訊安全還有綠能等\n\n14\n00:05:03,055 --> 00:05:03,095\n麥玉珍\n\n15\n00:05:29,002 --> 00:05:30,424\n跟委員報告我們跟國發會還有跨部會都有做\n\n16\n00:05:43,919 --> 00:05:47,242\n這個開會的協調就是說雖然我們國內缺工產業裡面我們都優先評估那比方說我們前年本來一度服務業的部分我們就不再招生了包括餐飲、觀光旅館、烘焙等等\n\n17\n00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:25,607\n本來沒有了可是去年開始我們積極的說其實我們這方面真的很需要所以我們又恢復開始招生所以類似這樣我們都是用動態性的去管理隨時跟經濟部跟勞動部我們都保持聯動的關係知道說在市場上面目前哪些業別可能他的需求量會比較高\n\n18\n00:06:27,829 --> 00:06:35,454\n我是希望因為我這次有回去越南跟我們的外交部有在座談所以我覺得說我們是招生產業但是沒有一個部會沒有一個專門就是為留產因為我們花很多錢來去找很多學生來台灣我們在越南來台灣已經有3萬\n\n19\n00:06:50,424 --> 00:06:50,464\n﹚麥玉珍﹚\n\n20\n00:07:10,663 --> 00:07:18,910\n因為我們變成我們花很多錢讓很多不同國家的學生來我們台灣我們要拿我們的納稅的錢要去栽培這個人才但是沒有一個機制留才這樣的話就導致說大家來這邊工作但是我們培訓後沒有後續的發展也沒有說留才的機制\n\n21\n00:07:31,101 --> 00:07:32,181\n所以請我們的委員長就是要幫我們就是可以未來有這樣子的一個機制的話對僑生來臺灣我們也留財也不用說花到我們的就是人民的\n\n22\n00:07:46,568 --> 00:07:49,830\n我了解麥委員的關心跟對我們的期許我們僑委會會加強我們去年開始就辦僑生就業博覽會本來只有在北部廠的這個相關企業我們今年又擴大全國北部南部都有然後也\n\n23\n00:08:09,002 --> 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04:42.521\n好謝謝所以因為在全國各大產業就是都在缺工但是呢因為低薪就是導致少子化但是我們現在就是產業發展的失衡等等所以造成很大的缺工但是各個部分各部門在台灣的就是招生的部分的話就是像半導體啊資訊安全還有綠能等\n\n05:03.055 --> 05:03.095\n麥玉珍\n\n05:29.002 --> 05:30.424\n跟委員報告我們跟國發會還有跨部會都有做\n\n05:43.919 --> 05:47.242\n這個開會的協調就是說雖然我們國內缺工產業裡面我們都優先評估那比方說我們前年本來一度服務業的部分我們就不再招生了包括餐飲、觀光旅館、烘焙等等\n\n06:04.079 --> 06:25.607\n本來沒有了可是去年開始我們積極的說其實我們這方面真的很需要所以我們又恢復開始招生所以類似這樣我們都是用動態性的去管理隨時跟經濟部跟勞動部我們都保持聯動的關係知道說在市場上面目前哪些業別可能他的需求量會比較高\n\n06:27.829 --> 06:35.454\n我是希望因為我這次有回去越南跟我們的外交部有在座談所以我覺得說我們是招生產業但是沒有一個部會沒有一個專門就是為留產因為我們花很多錢來去找很多學生來台灣我們在越南來台灣已經有3萬\n\n06:50.424 --> 06:50.464\n﹚麥玉珍﹚\n\n07:10.663 --> 07:18.910\n因為我們變成我們花很多錢讓很多不同國家的學生來我們台灣我們要拿我們的納稅的錢要去栽培這個人才但是沒有一個機制留才這樣的話就導致說大家來這邊工作但是我們培訓後沒有後續的發展也沒有說留才的機制\n\n07:31.101 --> 07:32.181\n所以請我們的委員長就是要幫我們就是可以未來有這樣子的一個機制的話對僑生來臺灣我們也留財也不用說花到我們的就是人民的\n\n07:46.568 --> 07:49.830\n我了解麥委員的關心跟對我們的期許我們僑委會會加強我們去年開始就辦僑生就業博覽會本來只有在北部廠的這個相關企業我們今年又擴大全國北部南部都有然後也\n\n08:09.002 --> 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