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00:01:35,763\n應該是還沒有還沒有定案那我請教因為2023年其實超徵有3617億為例那本席我本來是希望說其實你超徵的稅收一次把它處理把那個合適的問題避免電價再度調漲這個部長你有什麼看法其實一次把它處理掉因為你電價以後漲你漲電價一漲百物期漲\n\n5\n00:01:40,967 --> 00:01:45,071\n事實上3600這個問題主計總處這邊應該有多次的說明他是包括中央跟地方的部分那中央的部分那在中央的相關的經費包括能不能讓我們台電來追加預算還有勞保的使用等等那經費確實都已經分配了\n\n6\n00:02:02,648 --> 00:02:27,877\n因為你每一次只要這個大家預測說台電會這個可能電價會調漲你百物就先仗在前面這個是很嚴重的問題部長你知道嗎我們確實對這個電價會影響相關的他們已經做了非常謹慎的處理所以在這個民生的或者是內需的這個部分其實漲幅只有7%的部分而已是部長其實齁\n\n7\n00:02:31,836 --> 00:02:59,975\n這個事前要怎麼去規劃非常重要你不要說漲了以後而且拉了那麼長結果講實在話現在真的百物齊漲了什麼都漲老百姓這個痛苦指數越來越高因為薪水不漲那個不漲全台有多數水庫蓄水率不到一半什麼水庫蓄水量只剩兩成多\n\n8\n00:03:00,916 --> 00:03:16,515\n交通部氣象局預報表示預估春季降雨並不是很樂觀希望民眾節約用水昨天石門水庫水位只剩219公尺有蓄水量剩\n\n9\n00:03:18,416 --> 00:03:41,333\n只有4983萬立方公尺那我請問經濟部目前你們有什麼因應的措施預計什麼水庫水位降至多少就會啟動離峰減壓的供水你們有沒有一些預備的方式現在目前是還不到這個減壓供水的地步是還不用那我們確實是會謹慎來再看這個\n\n10\n00:03:44,255 --> 00:04:01,957\n昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能\n\n11\n00:04:05,736 --> 00:04:30,628\n目前520之前目前沒有條價的規劃520以後你不知道因為你那時候不當部長了嘛對不對是部長水資源作業基金113年預算編列耗水會有5億元收入可用於節約用水的推動2015年經濟部曾推動補助購買省水的洗衣機、馬桶等等\n\n12\n00:04:31,348 --> 00:04:55,169\n無預的預算每年可節省821萬噸的水量大約一個阿公電水庫有那麼大的水量蓄水量我是希望說經濟部應用這些耗水費收入來規劃省水產品的補助加速民眾來更換這個省水洗衣機、馬桶、節水又減碳一舉兩得,您的看法呢?\n\n13\n00:04:56,176 --> 00:05:10,177\n謝謝委員那因為那個今年度會到4月截止然後之後收取的費用是多少那這個怎麼規劃水利署會謹慎來規劃我是任委署長賴署長這個事情要規劃而且要多做宣導\n\n14\n00:05:11,428 --> 00:05:27,765\n你的看法勒當然要多多宣導因為大幅可以節水對整體的社會都是有幫助的對啊你這個要未雨綢繆而且這個是長遠的計畫長遠的看法每一年都會逢到好不好大前天4月15號台電發生大跳機\n\n15\n00:05:28,806 --> 00:05:54,702\n那其實北台灣差點大停電還是這個協調科技業減電這個減少用電並幫忙發電才搶救回來但能造成桃園以及北部新北地區有一些停電那部長您在111年的303全台大停電後您有自行處分說個人不在乎個人的去留那如今520內閣\n\n16\n00:05:56,743 --> 00:06:10,196\n經濟部長的人選已經有出現了那王部長您是我能夠承諾520前若要是再像這種大規模停電跳電的狀況你就請辭下台你的看法呢\n\n17\n00:06:11,377 --> 00:06:12,238\n所以說你那麼520前絕對是很safe\n\n18\n00:06:30,191 --> 00:06:32,573\n太陽能光電發展與我國電網的發展更新速度息息相關。媒體報導波蘭電網營運商因為太陽能發電增長的速度過快\n\n19\n00:06:50,191 --> 00:07:10,999\n而在今年就必須三次的切斷綠能併網的連接因為其綠能擴張過快已經超過波瀾電網負荷量的程度反而可能造成跳電斷電的風險那部長我國是否也有沒有相同的狀況\n\n20\n00:07:12,219 --> 00:07:25,175\n沒有每個國家的情形不太一樣那對台灣的部分我們除了綠能之外那另外除能還有我們的電網的這個設置其實是相當所以說沒有這個問題就對了我們沒有剛才委員講的這個情形\n\n21\n00:07:28,058 --> 00:07:55,367\n波蘭未來將逐步的來升級電網以因應再生能源的成長那我國行政院在303大停電後同年也提出說要強化電網韌性建設計畫10年5645億新台幣來升級電網那請問上述預算包括綠能、並往連接的這些部分有沒有需要再增加預算以建立以再生能源並往連接\n\n22\n00:07:57,369 --> 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是部長水資源作業基金113年預算編列耗水會有5億元收入可用於節約用水的推動2015年經濟部曾推動補助購買省水的洗衣機、馬桶等等\n271348\t295169\t無預的預算每年可節省821萬噸的水量大約一個阿公電水庫有那麼大的水量蓄水量我是希望說經濟部應用這些耗水費收入來規劃省水產品的補助加速民眾來更換這個省水洗衣機、馬桶、節水又減碳一舉兩得,您的看法呢?\n296176\t310177\t謝謝委員那因為那個今年度會到4月截止然後之後收取的費用是多少那這個怎麼規劃水利署會謹慎來規劃我是任委署長賴署長這個事情要規劃而且要多做宣導\n311428\t327765\t你的看法勒當然要多多宣導因為大幅可以節水對整體的社會都是有幫助的對啊你這個要未雨綢繆而且這個是長遠的計畫長遠的看法每一年都會逢到好不好大前天4月15號台電發生大跳機\n328806\t354702\t那其實北台灣差點大停電還是這個協調科技業減電這個減少用電並幫忙發電才搶救回來但能造成桃園以及北部新北地區有一些停電那部長您在111年的303全台大停電後您有自行處分說個人不在乎個人的去留那如今520內閣\n356743\t370196\t經濟部長的人選已經有出現了那王部長您是我能夠承諾520前若要是再像這種大規模停電跳電的狀況你就請辭下台你的看法呢\n371377\t372238\t所以說你那麼520前絕對是很safe\n390191\t392573\t太陽能光電發展與我國電網的發展更新速度息息相關。媒體報導波蘭電網營運商因為太陽能發電增長的速度過快\n410191\t430999\t而在今年就必須三次的切斷綠能併網的連接因為其綠能擴張過快已經超過波瀾電網負荷量的程度反而可能造成跳電斷電的風險那部長我國是否也有沒有相同的狀況\n432219\t445175\t沒有每個國家的情形不太一樣那對台灣的部分我們除了綠能之外那另外除能還有我們的電網的這個設置其實是相當所以說沒有這個問題就對了我們沒有剛才委員講的這個情形\n448058\t475367\t波蘭未來將逐步的來升級電網以因應再生能源的成長那我國行政院在303大停電後同年也提出說要強化電網韌性建設計畫10年5645億新台幣來升級電網那請問上述預算包括綠能、並往連接的這些部分有沒有需要再增加預算以建立以再生能源並往連接\n477369\t485130\t跟委員報告這裡的經費就包括做這樣的一個分散電網的需求了我認為這個很重要是好不好謝謝是\n","txt":"謝謝昭偉是不是我們來請王部長還有水利署賴署長還有我們台電許副總\n王部長我請教因為本席去年在3月的時候有問過這個題目我現在再問一次如果台電正式匯除核四把核四認列損失馬上就增加了2800億的虧損那媒體報導台電核四轉型方案將改為綠能的綜合電廠\n那這個相關合適的損失政府將採婚年認列來減損以電匯婚年婚攤來收回那我請問部長在520前會不會有定案\n應該是還沒有還沒有定案那我請教因為2023年其實超徵有3617億為例那本席我本來是希望說其實你超徵的稅收一次把它處理把那個合適的問題避免電價再度調漲這個部長你有什麼看法其實一次把它處理掉因為你電價以後漲你漲電價一漲百物期漲\n事實上3600這個問題主計總處這邊應該有多次的說明他是包括中央跟地方的部分那中央的部分那在中央的相關的經費包括能不能讓我們台電來追加預算還有勞保的使用等等那經費確實都已經分配了\n因為你每一次只要這個大家預測說台電會這個可能電價會調漲你百物就先仗在前面這個是很嚴重的問題部長你知道嗎我們確實對這個電價會影響相關的他們已經做了非常謹慎的處理所以在這個民生的或者是內需的這個部分其實漲幅只有7%的部分而已是部長其實齁\n這個事前要怎麼去規劃非常重要你不要說漲了以後而且拉了那麼長結果講實在話現在真的百物齊漲了什麼都漲老百姓這個痛苦指數越來越高因為薪水不漲那個不漲全台有多數水庫蓄水率不到一半什麼水庫蓄水量只剩兩成多\n交通部氣象局預報表示預估春季降雨並不是很樂觀希望民眾節約用水昨天石門水庫水位只剩219公尺有蓄水量剩\n只有4983萬立方公尺那我請問經濟部目前你們有什麼因應的措施預計什麼水庫水位降至多少就會啟動離峰減壓的供水你們有沒有一些預備的方式現在目前是還不到這個減壓供水的地步是還不用那我們確實是會謹慎來再看這個\n昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能\n目前520之前目前沒有條價的規劃520以後你不知道因為你那時候不當部長了嘛對不對 是部長水資源作業基金113年預算編列耗水會有5億元收入可用於節約用水的推動2015年經濟部曾推動補助購買省水的洗衣機、馬桶等等\n無預的預算每年可節省821萬噸的水量大約一個阿公電水庫有那麼大的水量蓄水量我是希望說經濟部應用這些耗水費收入來規劃省水產品的補助加速民眾來更換這個省水洗衣機、馬桶、節水又減碳一舉兩得,您的看法呢?\n謝謝委員那因為那個今年度會到4月截止然後之後收取的費用是多少那這個怎麼規劃水利署會謹慎來規劃我是任委署長賴署長這個事情要規劃而且要多做宣導\n你的看法勒當然要多多宣導因為大幅可以節水對整體的社會都是有幫助的對啊你這個要未雨綢繆而且這個是長遠的計畫長遠的看法每一年都會逢到好不好大前天4月15號台電發生大跳機\n那其實北台灣差點大停電還是這個協調科技業減電這個減少用電並幫忙發電才搶救回來但能造成桃園以及北部新北地區有一些停電那部長您在111年的303全台大停電後您有自行處分說個人不在乎個人的去留那如今520內閣\n經濟部長的人選已經有出現了那王部長您是我能夠承諾520前若要是再像這種大規模停電跳電的狀況你就請辭下台你的看法呢\n所以說你那麼520前絕對是很safe\n太陽能光電發展與我國電網的發展更新速度息息相關。媒體報導波蘭電網營運商因為太陽能發電增長的速度過快\n而在今年就必須三次的切斷綠能併網的連接因為其綠能擴張過快已經超過波瀾電網負荷量的程度反而可能造成跳電斷電的風險那部長我國是否也有沒有相同的狀況\n沒有每個國家的情形不太一樣那對台灣的部分我們除了綠能之外那另外除能還有我們的電網的這個設置其實是相當所以說沒有這個問題就對了我們沒有剛才委員講的這個情形\n波蘭未來將逐步的來升級電網以因應再生能源的成長那我國行政院在303大停電後同年也提出說要強化電網韌性建設計畫10年5645億新台幣來升級電網那請問上述預算包括綠能、並往連接的這些部分有沒有需要再增加預算以建立以再生能源並往連接\n跟委員報告這裡的經費就包括做這樣的一個分散電網的需求了我認為這個很重要是好不好謝謝是\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:14.333 --> 00:24.471\n謝謝昭偉是不是我們來請王部長還有水利署賴署長還有我們台電許副總\n\n00:32.248 --> 00:44.912\n王部長我請教因為本席去年在3月的時候有問過這個題目我現在再問一次如果台電正式匯除核四把核四認列損失馬上就增加了2800億的虧損那媒體報導台電核四轉型方案將改為綠能的綜合電廠\n\n00:53.675 --> 01:01.764\n那這個相關合適的損失政府將採婚年認列來減損以電匯婚年婚攤來收回那我請問部長在520前會不會有定案\n\n01:12.188 --> 01:35.763\n應該是還沒有還沒有定案那我請教因為2023年其實超徵有3617億為例那本席我本來是希望說其實你超徵的稅收一次把它處理把那個合適的問題避免電價再度調漲這個部長你有什麼看法其實一次把它處理掉因為你電價以後漲你漲電價一漲百物期漲\n\n01:40.967 --> 01:45.071\n事實上3600這個問題主計總處這邊應該有多次的說明他是包括中央跟地方的部分那中央的部分那在中央的相關的經費包括能不能讓我們台電來追加預算還有勞保的使用等等那經費確實都已經分配了\n\n02:02.648 --> 02:27.877\n因為你每一次只要這個大家預測說台電會這個可能電價會調漲你百物就先仗在前面這個是很嚴重的問題部長你知道嗎我們確實對這個電價會影響相關的他們已經做了非常謹慎的處理所以在這個民生的或者是內需的這個部分其實漲幅只有7%的部分而已是部長其實齁\n\n02:31.836 --> 02:59.975\n這個事前要怎麼去規劃非常重要你不要說漲了以後而且拉了那麼長結果講實在話現在真的百物齊漲了什麼都漲老百姓這個痛苦指數越來越高因為薪水不漲那個不漲全台有多數水庫蓄水率不到一半什麼水庫蓄水量只剩兩成多\n\n03:00.916 --> 03:16.515\n交通部氣象局預報表示預估春季降雨並不是很樂觀希望民眾節約用水昨天石門水庫水位只剩219公尺有蓄水量剩\n\n03:18.416 --> 03:41.333\n只有4983萬立方公尺那我請問經濟部目前你們有什麼因應的措施預計什麼水庫水位降至多少就會啟動離峰減壓的供水你們有沒有一些預備的方式現在目前是還不到這個減壓供水的地步是還不用那我們確實是會謹慎來再看這個\n\n03:44.255 --> 04:01.957\n昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能夠挹注的部分。昆水期的部分,當然看這個春雨還是能\n\n04:05.736 --> 04:30.628\n目前520之前目前沒有條價的規劃520以後你不知道因為你那時候不當部長了嘛對不對是部長水資源作業基金113年預算編列耗水會有5億元收入可用於節約用水的推動2015年經濟部曾推動補助購買省水的洗衣機、馬桶等等\n\n04:31.348 --> 04:55.169\n無預的預算每年可節省821萬噸的水量大約一個阿公電水庫有那麼大的水量蓄水量我是希望說經濟部應用這些耗水費收入來規劃省水產品的補助加速民眾來更換這個省水洗衣機、馬桶、節水又減碳一舉兩得,您的看法呢?\n\n04:56.176 --> 05:10.177\n謝謝委員那因為那個今年度會到4月截止然後之後收取的費用是多少那這個怎麼規劃水利署會謹慎來規劃我是任委署長賴署長這個事情要規劃而且要多做宣導\n\n05:11.428 --> 05:27.765\n你的看法勒當然要多多宣導因為大幅可以節水對整體的社會都是有幫助的對啊你這個要未雨綢繆而且這個是長遠的計畫長遠的看法每一年都會逢到好不好大前天4月15號台電發生大跳機\n\n05:28.806 --> 05:54.702\n那其實北台灣差點大停電還是這個協調科技業減電這個減少用電並幫忙發電才搶救回來但能造成桃園以及北部新北地區有一些停電那部長您在111年的303全台大停電後您有自行處分說個人不在乎個人的去留那如今520內閣\n\n05:56.743 --> 06:10.196\n經濟部長的人選已經有出現了那王部長您是我能夠承諾520前若要是再像這種大規模停電跳電的狀況你就請辭下台你的看法呢\n\n06:11.377 --> 06:12.238\n所以說你那麼520前絕對是很safe\n\n06:30.191 --> 06:32.573\n太陽能光電發展與我國電網的發展更新速度息息相關。媒體報導波蘭電網營運商因為太陽能發電增長的速度過快\n\n06:50.191 --> 07:10.999\n而在今年就必須三次的切斷綠能併網的連接因為其綠能擴張過快已經超過波瀾電網負荷量的程度反而可能造成跳電斷電的風險那部長我國是否也有沒有相同的狀況\n\n07:12.219 --> 07:25.175\n沒有每個國家的情形不太一樣那對台灣的部分我們除了綠能之外那另外除能還有我們的電網的這個設置其實是相當所以說沒有這個問題就對了我們沒有剛才委員講的這個情形\n\n07:28.058 --> 07:55.367\n波蘭未來將逐步的來升級電網以因應再生能源的成長那我國行政院在303大停電後同年也提出說要強化電網韌性建設計畫10年5645億新台幣來升級電網那請問上述預算包括綠能、並往連接的這些部分有沒有需要再增加預算以建立以再生能源並往連接\n\n07:57.369 --> 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