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--> 00:00:38,250\n委員長,您有同意嗎?\n\n4\n00:00:55,723 --> 00:00:56,804\n中共的孔子學院經過那麼多年在全球的擴張搞了那麼多年在國外有哪一些爭議呢?\n\n5\n00:01:17,750 --> 00:01:45,146\n這個爭議當然很多包括說他們企圖影響這些高等教育的研究方向那麼企圖要讓某些學者產出對他們有利的言論那甚至也會在華語教學當中誤導學生那但是在民主自由社會的學生他們反應也很直接他們會說這個孔子學院所提供的教材都是那種比較威權的國家\n\n6\n00:01:46,606 --> 00:02:08,392\n所以以我去年去了一趟波蘭的時候跟一位在當地教書的大學教授在座談的時候他就跟我直接說其實台灣很有市場我們趕快把我們的華語文的這個教材提供給他們因為他們當地的大學生對於中國方面所提供的教材是非常反感\n\n7\n00:02:08,712 --> 00:02:11,814\n他們覺得在那邊學習不符他們的需求所以也因為這樣子我去年開始就回來把這個我們的華語教材改成是雙語版有包括華語加上波蘭語、斯拉夫語做成這個新的版本然後能夠送去\n\n8\n00:02:26,102 --> 00:02:26,122\n﹚廣告\n\n9\n00:02:49,164 --> 00:03:06,007\n那這樣的話就是照剛才委員長所說的那西方國家近幾年就是開始抵制孔子學院了對不對所以相對的話導致各地的孔子學院大量的關閉那請問委員長僑務會有沒有掌握目前中國的孔子學院大約是關閉了多少個呢\n\n10\n00:03:06,708 --> 00:03:14,433\n根據我的這個數字的累積在美國呢九成以上已經都被shutdown了但是有一些將近一成的他們是換了一個名字但是還是存在在那裡所以這件事情也開始有引起部分的這個大學的注意說他們會不會換湯不換藥只是假裝換一個名稱所以這種情形在美國我們有注意觀察到\n\n11\n00:03:36,528 --> 00:03:52,157\n在歐洲也有部分國家那像日前英國的這個調查報告裡面就特別提到這件事情所以歐洲國家也關閉了非常多也差不多是近九成都被退場了那中國現在這種孔子學院還能夠比較\n\n12\n00:03:53,598 --> 00:03:55,659\n所以也因為這樣我想我們僑委會也都很積極的在關注這些狀況\n\n13\n00:04:19,889 --> 00:04:22,012\n據委員長這樣說,我國在海外有設立華語文學習中心,現在也是擴張得非常快速。據本席了解,其實資數量是不足的,\n\n14\n00:04:34,949 --> 00:04:35,749\n請問僑委會有什麼積極解決還有推展的合作計畫呢?\n\n15\n00:04:56,118 --> 00:05:17,585\n委員所指教的確實是我們現在很大的挑戰因為我們海外的僑民在近20年來人口實是有點停滯了沒有再增加太多所以早期很多留學生像我自己當過留學生的時候我就去做僑校的老師那近年來因為留學生的數量減少所以師資確實也是有\n\n16\n00:05:19,465 --> 00:05:24,370\n進補上面的不足那我們現在是用既有這個僑校的老師給他們做專業的訓練就是說他們本來教的是小學生可是現在因為華語文學習中心要教的是成人所以我們就開比較多的進修的課程\n\n17\n00:05:37,503 --> 00:05:39,526\n這進修的課程一方面是用線上的,然後也有派我們國內的學者跟教授去做巡迴的研討會,協助這些有心要轉型做教成人的教師,讓這些師資可以進入這個市場。\n\n18\n00:05:54,887 --> 00:06:14,382\n那另外一方面我們也運用現代的科技就是說國內有很多的大專院校那培養出一些師資那這些師資也用線上的這個課程的資源模式來提供我們在華語文學習中心所以我們現在的中心呢原則上一個禮拜要求是三個小時課程但是是兩個小時是要實體的上課一個小時可以是線上的上課\n\n19\n00:06:20,186 --> 00:06:25,532\n所以用這樣的方式來補充這個我們在師資資源上面的一個挹注所以這個效果其實還蠻不錯因為有些學生他會說我想要進階到什麼那我們就可以把它分眾化的處理有些人學得比較快有的人學得比較慢所以那一個小時的線上課程的時候就可以分級來做這個進行\n\n20\n00:06:42,330 --> 00:06:47,051\n所以還是針對失智不足的方面我記得過去的僑委會其實也有是跟當時的內政部的議政署爭取一些替代役名額到各校的僑校去服務但因為之前的義務役改成4個月轉服替代役也只有6個月所以想請教委員長最近僑委會會不會也比較少跟內政部的議政司爭取替代役元額呢\n\n21\n00:07:08,696 --> 00:07:14,377\n我們一直都有去做這個事情比較不是內政部這個議政署的問題是我們每一年都會上成功嶺去做宣傳然後看這些藝男有沒有個人的興趣那他們如果有個人的興趣的時候我們就邀請來做我們的替代役那因為簽替代役的時候他的時間就比較長\n\n22\n00:07:31,161 --> 00:07:35,963\n其實前後將近十個月不是只有六個月而已將近十個月那我們派出去到海外的僑校這種僑校也比較是全日制的僑校不是那種週末型補充教育的學校這個當然很受歡迎我們確實比方說我們派到菲律賓派到泰國派到日本\n\n23\n00:07:52,831 --> 00:07:56,974\n那很多僑校的之後都會跟我們說希望能夠再增加那我們也確實是很希望國內的這個華語系畢業的學生如果他們能夠這個在替代役的這個過程當中多做這個方面的\n\n24\n00:08:11,323 --> 00:08:12,744\n為了宣傳台灣自由民主的價值,爭取認同,所以擴大國家的軟實力,如果這個方案可行的話,可能請僑委會可以積極一點去規劃。\n\n25\n00:08:34,885 --> 00:08:41,390\n然後還有一個問題就是請教委員長協助僑胞回臺灣參加520正副總統就職典禮算不算是促進海外僑胞對國家的認同與支持呢是確實是很重要的所以僑委會有辦理歡迎海外僑胞回臺參加就職典禮的活動對不對對可是現在到目前為止現在有多少僑胞報名參加了呢今天到目前是已經870人了\n\n26\n00:09:01,047 --> 00:09:14,930\n因為從資訊上面露出開放報名到報名截止中間只有大概一個月的時間但是北溪發現似乎有些辦事處還拖了兩個禮拜之後才公布訊息那想回國參加的人都措手不及那請問委員長我們一般訂機票要出國如果是要提前一個月的話時程上是不是太趕了那一般計畫大約也要兩三個月前就要開始訂機票了\n\n27\n00:09:27,512 --> 00:09:31,957\n然後你也知道其實從總統大選結束到下一任正副總統就職這個中間大概有四個月的時間那僑委會可以提早啟動計畫讓海外的僑胞提早知道這個訊息可以多兩個月的時間安排返台計畫不然\n\n28\n00:09:44,631 --> 00:09:52,697\n我覺得好像參加的人就是要時間很多很空閒的人才能報名參加520總統就職典禮這樣說一般上班的僑胞根本想要參加但是那麼短的時間內要把時間空閒出來再訂機票其實是非常緊迫的\n\n29\n00:10:03,379 --> 00:10:10,243\n確實我們有思考到這些狀況就是總統就職的典禮畢竟不像每一年的國慶慶典那我們過去的國慶慶典開放報名到截止報名的時間原則上大概都是三個禮拜到一個月之間那其實我們這個就職大典也是差不多比照這個規模那上一次的2016我們也是差不多是一個月報名時間所以\n\n30\n00:10:31,238 --> 00:10:56,710\n我想在海外有心想參加的大概已經心裡都有做一些準備而且有些人提前來問的時候我們也會跟他講大概怎麼樣但是只是說線上的報名系統我們一定要等籌備委員會開完我們才能夠正式上線但準備工作我們其實3月就已經都在準備所以有時候我們要考慮到很多還有某些的駐外辦事處或許有時候會有一些延遲公佈的訊息這些都要放進來考慮的\n\n31\n00:11:00,051 --> 00:11:00,071\n謝謝委員長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n491\t1455\t主席好有請委員長請委員長\n9011\t36989\t林委員你好你好孔子學院是由中國主導披著推廣漢語漢學的外表實際上是對世界各國進行政治的滲透還有文化統戰問題機構近年來西方民主的國家已經陸續的意識到孔子學院的問題表面上它是中文學習中心但實際上中國卻是利用孔子學院趁機宣傳中共史觀\n38010\t38250\t委員長,您有同意嗎?\n55723\t56804\t中共的孔子學院經過那麼多年在全球的擴張搞了那麼多年在國外有哪一些爭議呢?\n77750\t105146\t這個爭議當然很多包括說他們企圖影響這些高等教育的研究方向那麼企圖要讓某些學者產出對他們有利的言論那甚至也會在華語教學當中誤導學生那但是在民主自由社會的學生他們反應也很直接他們會說這個孔子學院所提供的教材都是那種比較威權的國家\n106606\t128392\t所以以我去年去了一趟波蘭的時候跟一位在當地教書的大學教授在座談的時候他就跟我直接說其實台灣很有市場我們趕快把我們的華語文的這個教材提供給他們因為他們當地的大學生對於中國方面所提供的教材是非常反感\n128712\t131814\t他們覺得在那邊學習不符他們的需求所以也因為這樣子我去年開始就回來把這個我們的華語教材改成是雙語版有包括華語加上波蘭語、斯拉夫語做成這個新的版本然後能夠送去\n146102\t146122\t﹚廣告\n169164\t186007\t那這樣的話就是照剛才委員長所說的那西方國家近幾年就是開始抵制孔子學院了對不對所以相對的話導致各地的孔子學院大量的關閉那請問委員長僑務會有沒有掌握目前中國的孔子學院大約是關閉了多少個呢\n186708\t194433\t根據我的這個數字的累積在美國呢九成以上已經都被shut 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我想我們僑委會也都很積極的在關注這些狀況\n259889\t262012\t據委員長這樣說,我國在海外有設立華語文學習中心,現在也是擴張得非常快速。據本席了解,其實資數量是不足的,\n274949\t275749\t請問僑委會有什麼積極解決還有推展的合作計畫呢?\n296118\t317585\t委員所指教的確實是我們現在很大的挑戰因為我們海外的僑民在近20年來人口實是有點停滯了沒有再增加太多所以早期很多留學生像我自己當過留學生的時候我就去做僑校的老師那近年來因為留學生的數量減少所以師資確實也是有\n319465\t324370\t進補上面的不足那我們現在是用既有這個僑校的老師給他們做專業的訓練就是說他們本來教的是小學生可是現在因為華語文學習中心要教的是成人所以我們就開比較多的進修的課程\n337503\t339526\t這進修的課程一方面是用線上的,然後也有派我們國內的學者跟教授去做巡迴的研討會,協助這些有心要轉型做教成人的教師,讓這些師資可以進入這個市場。\n354887\t374382\t那另外一方面我們也運用現代的科技就是說國內有很多的大專院校那培養出一些師資那這些師資也用線上的這個課程的資源模式來提供我們在華語文學習中心所以我們現在的中心呢原則上一個禮拜要求是三個小時課程但是是兩個小時是要實體的上課一個小時可以是線上的上課\n380186\t385532\t所以用這樣的方式來補充這個我們在師資資源上面的一個挹注所以這個效果其實還蠻不錯因為有些學生他會說我想要進階到什麼那我們就可以把它分眾化的處理有些人學得比較快有的人學得比較慢所以那一個小時的線上課程的時候就可以分級來做這個進行\n402330\t407051\t所以還是針對失智不足的方面我記得過去的僑委會其實也有是跟當時的內政部的議政署爭取一些替代役名額到各校的僑校去服務但因為之前的義務役改成4個月轉服替代役也只有6個月所以想請教委員長最近僑委會會不會也比較少跟內政部的議政司爭取替代役元額呢\n428696\t434377\t我們一直都有去做這個事情比較不是內政部這個議政署的問題是我們每一年都會上成功嶺去做宣傳然後看這些藝男有沒有個人的興趣那他們如果有個人的興趣的時候我們就邀請來做我們的替代役那因為簽替代役的時候他的時間就比較長\n451161\t455963\t其實前後將近十個月不是只有六個月而已將近十個月那我們派出去到海外的僑校這種僑校也比較是全日制的僑校不是那種週末型補充教育的學校這個當然很受歡迎我們確實比方說我們派到菲律賓派到泰國派到日本\n472831\t476974\t那很多僑校的之後都會跟我們說希望能夠再增加那我們也確實是很希望國內的這個華語系畢業的學生如果他們能夠這個在替代役的這個過程當中多做這個方面的\n491323\t492744\t為了宣傳台灣自由民主的價值,爭取認同,所以擴大國家的軟實力,如果這個方案可行的話,可能請僑委會可以積極一點去規劃。\n514885\t521390\t然後還有一個問題就是請教委員長協助僑胞回臺灣參加520正副總統就職典禮算不算是促進海外僑胞對國家的認同與支持呢是確實是很重要的所以僑委會有辦理歡迎海外僑胞回臺參加就職典禮的活動對不對對可是現在到目前為止現在有多少僑胞報名參加了呢今天到目前是已經870人了\n541047\t554930\t因為從資訊上面露出開放報名到報名截止中間只有大概一個月的時間但是北溪發現似乎有些辦事處還拖了兩個禮拜之後才公布訊息那想回國參加的人都措手不及那請問委員長我們一般訂機票要出國如果是要提前一個月的話時程上是不是太趕了那一般計畫大約也要兩三個月前就要開始訂機票了\n567512\t571957\t然後你也知道其實從總統大選結束到下一任正副總統就職這個中間大概有四個月的時間那僑委會可以提早啟動計畫讓海外的僑胞提早知道這個訊息可以多兩個月的時間安排返台計畫不然\n584631\t592697\t我覺得好像參加的人就是要時間很多很空閒的人才能報名參加520總統就職典禮這樣說一般上班的僑胞根本想要參加但是那麼短的時間內要把時間空閒出來再訂機票其實是非常緊迫的\n603379\t610243\t確實我們有思考到這些狀況就是總統就職的典禮畢竟不像每一年的國慶慶典那我們過去的國慶慶典開放報名到截止報名的時間原則上大概都是三個禮拜到一個月之間那其實我們這個就職大典也是差不多比照這個規模那上一次的2016我們也是差不多是一個月報名時間所以\n631238\t656710\t我想在海外有心想參加的大概已經心裡都有做一些準備而且有些人提前來問的時候我們也會跟他講大概怎麼樣但是只是說線上的報名系統我們一定要等籌備委員會開完我們才能夠正式上線但準備工作我們其實3月就已經都在準備所以有時候我們要考慮到很多還有某些的駐外辦事處或許有時候會有一些延遲公佈的訊息這些都要放進來考慮的\n660051\t660071\t謝謝委員長\n","txt":"主席好有請委員長請委員長\n林委員你好你好孔子學院是由中國主導披著推廣漢語漢學的外表實際上是對世界各國進行政治的滲透還有文化統戰問題機構近年來西方民主的國家已經陸續的意識到孔子學院的問題表面上它是中文學習中心但實際上中國卻是利用孔子學院趁機宣傳中共史觀\n委員長,您有同意嗎?\n中共的孔子學院經過那麼多年在全球的擴張搞了那麼多年在國外有哪一些爭議呢?\n這個爭議當然很多包括說他們企圖影響這些高等教育的研究方向那麼企圖要讓某些學者產出對他們有利的言論那甚至也會在華語教學當中誤導學生那但是在民主自由社會的學生他們反應也很直接他們會說這個孔子學院所提供的教材都是那種比較威權的國家\n所以以我去年去了一趟波蘭的時候跟一位在當地教書的大學教授在座談的時候他就跟我直接說其實台灣很有市場我們趕快把我們的華語文的這個教材提供給他們因為他們當地的大學生對於中國方面所提供的教材是非常反感\n他們覺得在那邊學習不符他們的需求所以也因為這樣子我去年開始就回來把這個我們的華語教材改成是雙語版有包括華語加上波蘭語、斯拉夫語做成這個新的版本然後能夠送去\n﹚廣告\n那這樣的話就是照剛才委員長所說的那西方國家近幾年就是開始抵制孔子學院了對不對所以相對的話導致各地的孔子學院大量的關閉那請問委員長僑務會有沒有掌握目前中國的孔子學院大約是關閉了多少個呢\n根據我的這個數字的累積在美國呢九成以上已經都被shut down了但是有一些將近一成的他們是換了一個名字但是還是存在在那裡所以這件事情也開始有引起部分的這個大學的注意說他們會不會換湯不換藥只是假裝換一個名稱所以這種情形在美國我們有注意觀察到\n在歐洲也有部分國家那像日前英國的這個調查報告裡面就特別提到這件事情所以歐洲國家也關閉了非常多也差不多是近九成都被退場了那中國現在這種孔子學院還能夠比較\n所以也因為這樣 我想我們僑委會也都很積極的在關注這些狀況\n據委員長這樣說,我國在海外有設立華語文學習中心,現在也是擴張得非常快速。據本席了解,其實資數量是不足的,\n請問僑委會有什麼積極解決還有推展的合作計畫呢?\n委員所指教的確實是我們現在很大的挑戰因為我們海外的僑民在近20年來人口實是有點停滯了沒有再增加太多所以早期很多留學生像我自己當過留學生的時候我就去做僑校的老師那近年來因為留學生的數量減少所以師資確實也是有\n進補上面的不足那我們現在是用既有這個僑校的老師給他們做專業的訓練就是說他們本來教的是小學生可是現在因為華語文學習中心要教的是成人所以我們就開比較多的進修的課程\n這進修的課程一方面是用線上的,然後也有派我們國內的學者跟教授去做巡迴的研討會,協助這些有心要轉型做教成人的教師,讓這些師資可以進入這個市場。\n那另外一方面我們也運用現代的科技就是說國內有很多的大專院校那培養出一些師資那這些師資也用線上的這個課程的資源模式來提供我們在華語文學習中心所以我們現在的中心呢原則上一個禮拜要求是三個小時課程但是是兩個小時是要實體的上課一個小時可以是線上的上課\n所以用這樣的方式來補充這個我們在師資資源上面的一個挹注所以這個效果其實還蠻不錯因為有些學生他會說我想要進階到什麼那我們就可以把它分眾化的處理有些人學得比較快有的人學得比較慢所以那一個小時的線上課程的時候就可以分級來做這個進行\n所以還是針對失智不足的方面我記得過去的僑委會其實也有是跟當時的內政部的議政署爭取一些替代役名額到各校的僑校去服務但因為之前的義務役改成4個月轉服替代役也只有6個月所以想請教委員長最近僑委會會不會也比較少跟內政部的議政司爭取替代役元額呢\n我們一直都有去做這個事情比較不是內政部這個議政署的問題是我們每一年都會上成功嶺去做宣傳然後看這些藝男有沒有個人的興趣那他們如果有個人的興趣的時候我們就邀請來做我們的替代役那因為簽替代役的時候他的時間就比較長\n其實前後將近十個月不是只有六個月而已將近十個月那我們派出去到海外的僑校這種僑校也比較是全日制的僑校不是那種週末型補充教育的學校這個當然很受歡迎我們確實比方說我們派到菲律賓派到泰國派到日本\n那很多僑校的之後都會跟我們說希望能夠再增加那我們也確實是很希望國內的這個華語系畢業的學生如果他們能夠這個在替代役的這個過程當中多做這個方面的\n為了宣傳台灣自由民主的價值,爭取認同,所以擴大國家的軟實力,如果這個方案可行的話,可能請僑委會可以積極一點去規劃。\n然後還有一個問題就是請教委員長協助僑胞回臺灣參加520正副總統就職典禮算不算是促進海外僑胞對國家的認同與支持呢是確實是很重要的所以僑委會有辦理歡迎海外僑胞回臺參加就職典禮的活動對不對對可是現在到目前為止現在有多少僑胞報名參加了呢今天到目前是已經870人了\n因為從資訊上面露出開放報名到報名截止中間只有大概一個月的時間但是北溪發現似乎有些辦事處還拖了兩個禮拜之後才公布訊息那想回國參加的人都措手不及那請問委員長我們一般訂機票要出國如果是要提前一個月的話時程上是不是太趕了那一般計畫大約也要兩三個月前就要開始訂機票了\n然後你也知道其實從總統大選結束到下一任正副總統就職這個中間大概有四個月的時間那僑委會可以提早啟動計畫讓海外的僑胞提早知道這個訊息可以多兩個月的時間安排返台計畫不然\n我覺得好像參加的人就是要時間很多很空閒的人才能報名參加520總統就職典禮這樣說一般上班的僑胞根本想要參加但是那麼短的時間內要把時間空閒出來再訂機票其實是非常緊迫的\n確實我們有思考到這些狀況就是總統就職的典禮畢竟不像每一年的國慶慶典那我們過去的國慶慶典開放報名到截止報名的時間原則上大概都是三個禮拜到一個月之間那其實我們這個就職大典也是差不多比照這個規模那上一次的2016我們也是差不多是一個月報名時間所以\n我想在海外有心想參加的大概已經心裡都有做一些準備而且有些人提前來問的時候我們也會跟他講大概怎麼樣但是只是說線上的報名系統我們一定要等籌備委員會開完我們才能夠正式上線但準備工作我們其實3月就已經都在準備所以有時候我們要考慮到很多還有某些的駐外辦事處或許有時候會有一些延遲公佈的訊息這些都要放進來考慮的\n謝謝委員長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.491 --> 00:01.455\n主席好有請委員長請委員長\n\n00:09.011 --> 00:36.989\n林委員你好你好孔子學院是由中國主導披著推廣漢語漢學的外表實際上是對世界各國進行政治的滲透還有文化統戰問題機構近年來西方民主的國家已經陸續的意識到孔子學院的問題表面上它是中文學習中心但實際上中國卻是利用孔子學院趁機宣傳中共史觀\n\n00:38.010 --> 00:38.250\n委員長,您有同意嗎?\n\n00:55.723 --> 00:56.804\n中共的孔子學院經過那麼多年在全球的擴張搞了那麼多年在國外有哪一些爭議呢?\n\n01:17.750 --> 01:45.146\n這個爭議當然很多包括說他們企圖影響這些高等教育的研究方向那麼企圖要讓某些學者產出對他們有利的言論那甚至也會在華語教學當中誤導學生那但是在民主自由社會的學生他們反應也很直接他們會說這個孔子學院所提供的教材都是那種比較威權的國家\n\n01:46.606 --> 02:08.392\n所以以我去年去了一趟波蘭的時候跟一位在當地教書的大學教授在座談的時候他就跟我直接說其實台灣很有市場我們趕快把我們的華語文的這個教材提供給他們因為他們當地的大學生對於中國方面所提供的教材是非常反感\n\n02:08.712 --> 02:11.814\n他們覺得在那邊學習不符他們的需求所以也因為這樣子我去年開始就回來把這個我們的華語教材改成是雙語版有包括華語加上波蘭語、斯拉夫語做成這個新的版本然後能夠送去\n\n02:26.102 --> 02:26.122\n﹚廣告\n\n02:49.164 --> 03:06.007\n那這樣的話就是照剛才委員長所說的那西方國家近幾年就是開始抵制孔子學院了對不對所以相對的話導致各地的孔子學院大量的關閉那請問委員長僑務會有沒有掌握目前中國的孔子學院大約是關閉了多少個呢\n\n03:06.708 --> 03:14.433\n根據我的這個數字的累積在美國呢九成以上已經都被shutdown了但是有一些將近一成的他們是換了一個名字但是還是存在在那裡所以這件事情也開始有引起部分的這個大學的注意說他們會不會換湯不換藥只是假裝換一個名稱所以這種情形在美國我們有注意觀察到\n\n03:36.528 --> 03:52.157\n在歐洲也有部分國家那像日前英國的這個調查報告裡面就特別提到這件事情所以歐洲國家也關閉了非常多也差不多是近九成都被退場了那中國現在這種孔子學院還能夠比較\n\n03:53.598 --> 03:55.659\n所以也因為這樣我想我們僑委會也都很積極的在關注這些狀況\n\n04:19.889 --> 04:22.012\n據委員長這樣說,我國在海外有設立華語文學習中心,現在也是擴張得非常快速。據本席了解,其實資數量是不足的,\n\n04:34.949 --> 04:35.749\n請問僑委會有什麼積極解決還有推展的合作計畫呢?\n\n04:56.118 --> 05:17.585\n委員所指教的確實是我們現在很大的挑戰因為我們海外的僑民在近20年來人口實是有點停滯了沒有再增加太多所以早期很多留學生像我自己當過留學生的時候我就去做僑校的老師那近年來因為留學生的數量減少所以師資確實也是有\n\n05:19.465 --> 05:24.370\n進補上面的不足那我們現在是用既有這個僑校的老師給他們做專業的訓練就是說他們本來教的是小學生可是現在因為華語文學習中心要教的是成人所以我們就開比較多的進修的課程\n\n05:37.503 --> 05:39.526\n這進修的課程一方面是用線上的,然後也有派我們國內的學者跟教授去做巡迴的研討會,協助這些有心要轉型做教成人的教師,讓這些師資可以進入這個市場。\n\n05:54.887 --> 06:14.382\n那另外一方面我們也運用現代的科技就是說國內有很多的大專院校那培養出一些師資那這些師資也用線上的這個課程的資源模式來提供我們在華語文學習中心所以我們現在的中心呢原則上一個禮拜要求是三個小時課程但是是兩個小時是要實體的上課一個小時可以是線上的上課\n\n06:20.186 --> 06:25.532\n所以用這樣的方式來補充這個我們在師資資源上面的一個挹注所以這個效果其實還蠻不錯因為有些學生他會說我想要進階到什麼那我們就可以把它分眾化的處理有些人學得比較快有的人學得比較慢所以那一個小時的線上課程的時候就可以分級來做這個進行\n\n06:42.330 --> 06:47.051\n所以還是針對失智不足的方面我記得過去的僑委會其實也有是跟當時的內政部的議政署爭取一些替代役名額到各校的僑校去服務但因為之前的義務役改成4個月轉服替代役也只有6個月所以想請教委員長最近僑委會會不會也比較少跟內政部的議政司爭取替代役元額呢\n\n07:08.696 --> 07:14.377\n我們一直都有去做這個事情比較不是內政部這個議政署的問題是我們每一年都會上成功嶺去做宣傳然後看這些藝男有沒有個人的興趣那他們如果有個人的興趣的時候我們就邀請來做我們的替代役那因為簽替代役的時候他的時間就比較長\n\n07:31.161 --> 07:35.963\n其實前後將近十個月不是只有六個月而已將近十個月那我們派出去到海外的僑校這種僑校也比較是全日制的僑校不是那種週末型補充教育的學校這個當然很受歡迎我們確實比方說我們派到菲律賓派到泰國派到日本\n\n07:52.831 --> 07:56.974\n那很多僑校的之後都會跟我們說希望能夠再增加那我們也確實是很希望國內的這個華語系畢業的學生如果他們能夠這個在替代役的這個過程當中多做這個方面的\n\n08:11.323 --> 08:12.744\n為了宣傳台灣自由民主的價值,爭取認同,所以擴大國家的軟實力,如果這個方案可行的話,可能請僑委會可以積極一點去規劃。\n\n08:34.885 --> 08:41.390\n然後還有一個問題就是請教委員長協助僑胞回臺灣參加520正副總統就職典禮算不算是促進海外僑胞對國家的認同與支持呢是確實是很重要的所以僑委會有辦理歡迎海外僑胞回臺參加就職典禮的活動對不對對可是現在到目前為止現在有多少僑胞報名參加了呢今天到目前是已經870人了\n\n09:01.047 --> 09:14.930\n因為從資訊上面露出開放報名到報名截止中間只有大概一個月的時間但是北溪發現似乎有些辦事處還拖了兩個禮拜之後才公布訊息那想回國參加的人都措手不及那請問委員長我們一般訂機票要出國如果是要提前一個月的話時程上是不是太趕了那一般計畫大約也要兩三個月前就要開始訂機票了\n\n09:27.512 --> 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我想我們僑委會也都很積極的在關注這些狀況"},{"start":259.889,"end":262.012,"text":"據委員長這樣說,我國在海外有設立華語文學習中心,現在也是擴張得非常快速。據本席了解,其實資數量是不足的,"},{"start":274.949,"end":275.749,"text":"請問僑委會有什麼積極解決還有推展的合作計畫呢?"},{"start":296.118,"end":317.585,"text":"委員所指教的確實是我們現在很大的挑戰因為我們海外的僑民在近20年來人口實是有點停滯了沒有再增加太多所以早期很多留學生像我自己當過留學生的時候我就去做僑校的老師那近年來因為留學生的數量減少所以師資確實也是有"},{"start":319.465,"end":324.37,"text":"進補上面的不足那我們現在是用既有這個僑校的老師給他們做專業的訓練就是說他們本來教的是小學生可是現在因為華語文學習中心要教的是成人所以我們就開比較多的進修的課程"},{"start":337.503,"end":339.526,"text":"這進修的課程一方面是用線上的,然後也有派我們國內的學者跟教授去做巡迴的研討會,協助這些有心要轉型做教成人的教師,讓這些師資可以進入這個市場。"},{"start":354.887,"end":374.382,"text":"那另外一方面我們也運用現代的科技就是說國內有很多的大專院校那培養出一些師資那這些師資也用線上的這個課程的資源模式來提供我們在華語文學習中心所以我們現在的中心呢原則上一個禮拜要求是三個小時課程但是是兩個小時是要實體的上課一個小時可以是線上的上課"},{"start":380.186,"end":385.532,"text":"所以用這樣的方式來補充這個我們在師資資源上面的一個挹注所以這個效果其實還蠻不錯因為有些學生他會說我想要進階到什麼那我們就可以把它分眾化的處理有些人學得比較快有的人學得比較慢所以那一個小時的線上課程的時候就可以分級來做這個進行"},{"start":402.33,"end":407.051,"text":"所以還是針對失智不足的方面我記得過去的僑委會其實也有是跟當時的內政部的議政署爭取一些替代役名額到各校的僑校去服務但因為之前的義務役改成4個月轉服替代役也只有6個月所以想請教委員長最近僑委會會不會也比較少跟內政部的議政司爭取替代役元額呢"},{"start":428.696,"end":434.377,"text":"我們一直都有去做這個事情比較不是內政部這個議政署的問題是我們每一年都會上成功嶺去做宣傳然後看這些藝男有沒有個人的興趣那他們如果有個人的興趣的時候我們就邀請來做我們的替代役那因為簽替代役的時候他的時間就比較長"},{"start":451.161,"end":455.963,"text":"其實前後將近十個月不是只有六個月而已將近十個月那我們派出去到海外的僑校這種僑校也比較是全日制的僑校不是那種週末型補充教育的學校這個當然很受歡迎我們確實比方說我們派到菲律賓派到泰國派到日本"},{"start":472.831,"end":476.974,"text":"那很多僑校的之後都會跟我們說希望能夠再增加那我們也確實是很希望國內的這個華語系畢業的學生如果他們能夠這個在替代役的這個過程當中多做這個方面的"},{"start":491.323,"end":492.744,"text":"為了宣傳台灣自由民主的價值,爭取認同,所以擴大國家的軟實力,如果這個方案可行的話,可能請僑委會可以積極一點去規劃。"},{"start":514.885,"end":521.39,"text":"然後還有一個問題就是請教委員長協助僑胞回臺灣參加520正副總統就職典禮算不算是促進海外僑胞對國家的認同與支持呢是確實是很重要的所以僑委會有辦理歡迎海外僑胞回臺參加就職典禮的活動對不對對可是現在到目前為止現在有多少僑胞報名參加了呢今天到目前是已經870人了"},{"start":541.047,"end":554.93,"text":"因為從資訊上面露出開放報名到報名截止中間只有大概一個月的時間但是北溪發現似乎有些辦事處還拖了兩個禮拜之後才公布訊息那想回國參加的人都措手不及那請問委員長我們一般訂機票要出國如果是要提前一個月的話時程上是不是太趕了那一般計畫大約也要兩三個月前就要開始訂機票了"},{"start":567.512,"end":571.957,"text":"然後你也知道其實從總統大選結束到下一任正副總統就職這個中間大概有四個月的時間那僑委會可以提早啟動計畫讓海外的僑胞提早知道這個訊息可以多兩個月的時間安排返台計畫不然"},{"start":584.631,"end":592.697,"text":"我覺得好像參加的人就是要時間很多很空閒的人才能報名參加520總統就職典禮這樣說一般上班的僑胞根本想要參加但是那麼短的時間內要把時間空閒出來再訂機票其實是非常緊迫的"},{"start":603.379,"end":610.243,"text":"確實我們有思考到這些狀況就是總統就職的典禮畢竟不像每一年的國慶慶典那我們過去的國慶慶典開放報名到截止報名的時間原則上大概都是三個禮拜到一個月之間那其實我們這個就職大典也是差不多比照這個規模那上一次的2016我們也是差不多是一個月報名時間所以"},{"start":631.238,"end":656.71,"text":"我想在海外有心想參加的大概已經心裡都有做一些準備而且有些人提前來問的時候我們也會跟他講大概怎麼樣但是只是說線上的報名系統我們一定要等籌備委員會開完我們才能夠正式上線但準備工作我們其實3月就已經都在準備所以有時候我們要考慮到很多還有某些的駐外辦事處或許有時候會有一些延遲公佈的訊息這些都要放進來考慮的"},{"start":660.051,"end":660.071,"text":"謝謝委員長"}]}}}}