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00:02:55,799\n但其實過勞的這個議題已經存在一段時間了那過去不管是在立法院還是民間都有過許多的討論那尤其近幾年我們也知道爆量的這種詐騙案件幾乎淹沒了整個司法體系不管是這個檢警還是法官都在海量的這種案件中咬牙苦撐\n\n8\n00:02:57,259 --> 00:03:11,815\n那我想請教廳長就是司法院對於這種這一次發生的事情我們有沒有進行相關的檢討是的跟委員報告那其實司法院在這個昨天也就是17號有召開過檢討會議那關於這個\n\n9\n00:03:17,514 --> 00:03:26,837\n一、委員呂玲等17人擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條之一條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n\n10\n00:03:44,503 --> 00:04:01,311\n而然後持續來推動防度濫訴等等那都是我們可以立即採取的一些的具體的改善的措施那同時那也希望各界能夠關注這個議題然後投入更多的資源給司法\n\n11\n00:04:02,691 --> 00:04:19,076\n給司法部門,那因為我們受制於這個中央政府機關總原額法的限制,我們的原額即將用盡,那我想其實是適量大量的人力投入司法,那對於緩解法官的壓力是有助益的,謝謝。\n\n12\n00:04:20,056 --> 00:04:44,517\n我希望我們能夠提出具體能夠解決這個問題的辦法跟規劃讓實際在這個基層從事這些工作的法官能夠感受到這個壓力的減輕那我想問題還是不斷的惡化當中所以刻不容緩一定要馬上去做這個事情的解決那不論是人力資源的補充或是判決書類的這個簡化\n\n13\n00:04:46,599 --> 00:05:13,071\n那有好的措施就應該要盡快提出來解救司法官在水深火熱之中的這種工作情況而過勞的問題當然不只是存在法官那檢察官也是這部分也請我們法務部是不是也同步積極來檢討和規劃這個再請我們次長協助幫忙並且要深入了解第一線司法人員的這個實際情況避免只上談兵\n\n14\n00:05:14,144 --> 00:05:33,088\n那另外對於這件事情我們這個許中立院長日前走訪士林地院的時候也提醒法官要注意身心多參加一些戶外的活動那不要整天都綁在辦公室裡面被法官們認為是一番沒有溫度沒有距離的基層遙遠的這種言論但我們\n\n15\n00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:54,896\n也看到有台中地院的公告說讓全院同仁公假半天去參觀展覽那希望能夠放鬆一下心情那我想請問司法院對於這部分有沒有相關的這個指引那讓各地的法院都能這個\n\n16\n00:05:57,386 --> 00:06:26,987\n能參照來落實許中立院長的建議,多照顧法官的身心。」有沒有?報告委員,我想這一部分其實大概不需要司法院的指引,目前我們沒有指引,但是其實這都是各法院院長就自動的這樣子來做,就像委員剛才舉例的台中地院,那其實士林地院也有類似的,院長他們法院也有類似的措施,就是鼓勵法官們有半天的工假可以出去\n\n17\n00:06:27,427 --> 00:06:55,086\n走一走看一看這樣子的紓壓我希望要落實啊我希望要落實啊那在我就叫我們秘書長齁那在0403的大地震之後我們看到立法院本身也略有災情啦齁不管是這個百年建物的這個院區還是委員會辦公室的研究大樓都出現了一些這個受損或瓷磚剝落甚至這個樑柱裂開水泥石塊這個掉落\n\n18\n00:06:55,686 --> 00:07:18,452\n的情形甚至在這個未還這個委員會的天花板還有燈條也整組都掉下來那我想請教祕書長在地震這個兩個禮拜後相關的這個災損都已經檢查完了那也修繕完畢了嗎好好聽長您先回座\n\n19\n00:07:22,483 --> 00:07:42,675\n報告委員那因為地震發生的時候我們第一時間已經通知廠商那也在那個連假時間的前兩天就已經絕大多數做成修復那就後續有一些小狀況再做一點整理以上報告好都已經在處理了嗎是好那我想請教祕書長就是在4月1號\n\n20\n00:07:46,918 --> 00:08:08,796\n四月一號我曾經質詢過,那是在地震前那我針對我們這個國會擴建的相關期程當時這個秘書長回應是說總務處還在研擬當中也會向韓院長報告那在這個地震發生之後那到現在我想請教說秘書長您已經向韓院長報告和討論過這個事情了沒?\n\n21\n00:08:11,927 --> 00:08:33,718\n簽卷我上次跟陳委員報告過。總務處他研議後才會跟韓院長報告是不是要經過黨團協商成立的一個情形。所以就是還沒報告嗎?在研議整個過程。那大概要多久的時間?我當時是有,跟我提是六個月內。\n\n22\n00:08:34,978 --> 00:08:35,138\n六個月?\n\n23\n00:08:50,775 --> 00:09:04,921\n嚴厲的過程也還沒完成,那也還沒跟韓院長報告這件事情嗎?針對這個還沒有跟,院長報告是上次有一個公督門,院長只是我跟他沒接見的時候曾經有針對這個跟他報告過一次。\n\n24\n00:09:07,702 --> 00:09:29,291\n本席會不斷的追蹤這個國會擴建的議題是希望說在整個國會改革的這個討論當中能夠關注到硬體的這一塊我們不是只有這些條文方面我們硬體方面應該要納入去一併討論除了上述保障的這些議事運作維持這個議事的品質以外\n\n25\n00:09:29,831 --> 00:09:56,806\n也是為了要提升進行國會外交史的一個格局甚至目前我們立法院內還有許多的地方都可能還是違建的問題也是要透過我們這個國會的這個擴建或是簽建才有辦法解決應該是這樣子吧所以我希望說這個部分秘書長跟我們處長應該要積極來辦理不要說六個月啦應該要縮短期程因為這個已經討論那麼久了為什麼還要再六個月時間\n\n26\n00:09:57,907 --> 00:10:14,797\n我相信內部應該都有一個想法了上一次秘書長您也大概有講六個點應該也都有一個這個主要的一個想法所以我希望說應該是要加緊腳步啦客不容緩請秘書長跟處長這個盡快辦理好以上\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n19497\t25760\t好,謝謝主席。那我們有請秘書長跟我們司法院的陳廳長。\n27803\t56459\t好 謝謝 有請祕書長還有廳長請陳委員好祕書長好 廳長好好 首先我先請教我們司法院陳廳長齁那在上個禮拜啦齁上個禮拜士林地院的理性法官那已是因為工作壓力過大而不幸墜樓離世啦齁那一位這麼優秀的法官發生如此的憾事令社會各界非常的萬喜\n57742\t78436\t那根據媒體的報導在這個遺憾的事件發生之前那李信法官就曾傳簡訊給他的妻子表示說我很累也曾提到說因為這個太多的這種工作壓力讓他可能不堪負荷\n79571\t95082\t那顯示法官恐怕是長期處於這種高壓過勞的這種工作的環境之下那像這樣的情況我先請教一下我們這個陳庭長您的工作壓力會很大嗎?\n97841\t100342\t我只有近兩年是在司法院服務那之前都是在辦審判的工作\n130510\t152759\t因此可見應該在基層的這種法官那種壓力是不堪負荷的那我想請問就是說針對我們這個理法官的憾事也讓我們再次提醒減輕司法體系的這種負擔以及工作負荷的過重的問題是刻不容緩的\n153953\t175799\t但其實過勞的這個議題已經存在一段時間了那過去不管是在立法院還是民間都有過許多的討論那尤其近幾年我們也知道爆量的這種詐騙案件幾乎淹沒了整個司法體系不管是這個檢警還是法官都在海量的這種案件中咬牙苦撐\n177259\t191815\t那我想請教廳長就是司法院對於這種這一次發生的事情我們有沒有進行相關的檢討是的跟委員報告那其實司法院在這個昨天也就是17號有召開過檢討會議那關於這個\n197514\t206837\t一、委員呂玲等17人擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條之一條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n224503\t241311\t而然後持續來推動防度濫訴等等那都是我們可以立即採取的一些的具體的改善的措施那同時那也希望各界能夠關注這個議題然後投入更多的資源給司法\n242691\t259076\t給司法部門,那因為我們受制於這個中央政府機關總原額法的限制,我們的原額即將用盡,那我想其實是適量大量的人力投入司法,那對於緩解法官的壓力是有助益的,謝謝。\n260056\t284517\t我希望我們能夠提出具體能夠解決這個問題的辦法跟規劃讓實際在這個基層從事這些工作的法官能夠感受到這個壓力的減輕那我想問題還是不斷的惡化當中所以刻不容緩一定要馬上去做這個事情的解決那不論是人力資源的補充或是判決書類的這個簡化\n286599\t313071\t那有好的措施就應該要盡快提出來解救司法官在水深火熱之中的這種工作情況而過勞的問題當然不只是存在法官那檢察官也是這部分也請我們法務部是不是也同步積極來檢討和規劃這個再請我們次長協助幫忙並且要深入了解第一線司法人員的這個實際情況避免只上談兵\n314144\t333088\t那另外對於這件事情我們這個許中立院長日前走訪士林地院的時候也提醒法官要注意身心多參加一些戶外的活動那不要整天都綁在辦公室裡面被法官們認為是一番沒有溫度沒有距離的基層遙遠的這種言論但我們\n335919\t354896\t也看到有台中地院的公告說讓全院同仁公假半天去參觀展覽那希望能夠放鬆一下心情那我想請問司法院對於這部分有沒有相關的這個指引那讓各地的法院都能這個\n357386\t386987\t能參照來落實許中立院長的建議,多照顧法官的身心。」有沒有?報告委員,我想這一部分其實大概不需要司法院的指引,目前我們沒有指引,但是其實這都是各法院院長就自動的這樣子來做,就像委員剛才舉例的台中地院,那其實士林地院也有類似的,院長他們法院也有類似的措施,就是鼓勵法官們有半天的工假可以出去\n387427\t415086\t走一走看一看這樣子的紓壓我希望要落實啊我希望要落實啊那在我就叫我們秘書長齁那在0403的大地震之後我們看到立法院本身也略有災情啦齁不管是這個百年建物的這個院區還是委員會辦公室的研究大樓都出現了一些這個受損或瓷磚剝落甚至這個樑柱裂開水泥石塊這個掉落\n415686\t438452\t的情形甚至在這個未還這個委員會的天花板還有燈條也整組都掉下來那我想請教祕書長在地震這個兩個禮拜後相關的這個災損都已經檢查完了那也修繕完畢了嗎好好聽長您先回座\n442483\t462675\t報告委員那因為地震發生的時候我們第一時間已經通知廠商那也在那個連假時間的前兩天就已經絕大多數做成修復那就後續有一些小狀況再做一點整理以上報告好都已經在處理了嗎是好那我想請教祕書長就是在4月1號\n466918\t488796\t四月一號我曾經質詢過,那是在地震前那我針對我們這個國會擴建的相關期程當時這個秘書長回應是說總務處還在研擬當中也會向韓院長報告那在這個地震發生之後那到現在我想請教說秘書長您已經向韓院長報告和討論過這個事情了沒?\n491927\t513718\t簽卷我上次跟陳委員報告過。總務處他研議後才會跟韓院長報告是不是要經過黨團協商成立的一個情形。所以就是還沒報告嗎?在研議整個過程。那大概要多久的時間?我當時是有,跟我提是六個月內。\n514978\t515138\t六個月?\n530775\t544921\t嚴厲的過程也還沒完成,那也還沒跟韓院長報告這件事情嗎?針對這個還沒有跟,院長報告是上次有一個公督門,院長只是我跟他沒接見的時候曾經有針對這個跟他報告過一次。\n547702\t569291\t本席會不斷的追蹤這個國會擴建的議題是希望說在整個國會改革的這個討論當中能夠關注到硬體的這一塊我們不是只有這些條文方面我們硬體方面應該要納入去一併討論除了上述保障的這些議事運作維持這個議事的品質以外\n569831\t596806\t也是為了要提升進行國會外交史的一個格局甚至目前我們立法院內還有許多的地方都可能還是違建的問題也是要透過我們這個國會的這個擴建或是簽建才有辦法解決應該是這樣子吧所以我希望說這個部分秘書長跟我們處長應該要積極來辦理不要說六個月啦應該要縮短期程因為這個已經討論那麼久了為什麼還要再六個月時間\n597907\t614797\t我相信內部應該都有一個想法了上一次秘書長您也大概有講六個點應該也都有一個這個主要的一個想法所以我希望說應該是要加緊腳步啦客不容緩請秘書長跟處長這個盡快辦理好以上\n","txt":"好,謝謝主席。那我們有請秘書長跟我們司法院的陳廳長。\n好 謝謝 有請祕書長還有廳長請陳委員好祕書長好 廳長好好 首先我先請教我們司法院陳廳長齁那在上個禮拜啦齁上個禮拜士林地院的理性法官那已是因為工作壓力過大而不幸墜樓離世啦齁那一位這麼優秀的法官發生如此的憾事令社會各界非常的萬喜\n那根據媒體的報導在這個遺憾的事件發生之前那李信法官就曾傳簡訊給他的妻子表示說我很累也曾提到說因為這個太多的這種工作壓力讓他可能不堪負荷\n那顯示法官恐怕是長期處於這種高壓過勞的這種工作的環境之下那像這樣的情況我先請教一下我們這個陳庭長您的工作壓力會很大嗎?\n我只有近兩年是在司法院服務那之前都是在辦審判的工作\n因此可見應該在基層的這種法官那種壓力是不堪負荷的那我想請問就是說針對我們這個理法官的憾事也讓我們再次提醒減輕司法體系的這種負擔以及工作負荷的過重的問題是刻不容緩的\n但其實過勞的這個議題已經存在一段時間了那過去不管是在立法院還是民間都有過許多的討論那尤其近幾年我們也知道爆量的這種詐騙案件幾乎淹沒了整個司法體系不管是這個檢警還是法官都在海量的這種案件中咬牙苦撐\n那我想請教廳長就是司法院對於這種這一次發生的事情我們有沒有進行相關的檢討是的跟委員報告那其實司法院在這個昨天也就是17號有召開過檢討會議那關於這個\n一、委員呂玲等17人擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條之一條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n而然後持續來推動防度濫訴等等那都是我們可以立即採取的一些的具體的改善的措施那同時那也希望各界能夠關注這個議題然後投入更多的資源給司法\n給司法部門,那因為我們受制於這個中央政府機關總原額法的限制,我們的原額即將用盡,那我想其實是適量大量的人力投入司法,那對於緩解法官的壓力是有助益的,謝謝。\n我希望我們能夠提出具體能夠解決這個問題的辦法跟規劃讓實際在這個基層從事這些工作的法官能夠感受到這個壓力的減輕那我想問題還是不斷的惡化當中所以刻不容緩一定要馬上去做這個事情的解決那不論是人力資源的補充或是判決書類的這個簡化\n那有好的措施就應該要盡快提出來解救司法官在水深火熱之中的這種工作情況而過勞的問題當然不只是存在法官那檢察官也是這部分也請我們法務部是不是也同步積極來檢討和規劃這個再請我們次長協助幫忙並且要深入了解第一線司法人員的這個實際情況避免只上談兵\n那另外對於這件事情我們這個許中立院長日前走訪士林地院的時候也提醒法官要注意身心多參加一些戶外的活動那不要整天都綁在辦公室裡面被法官們認為是一番沒有溫度沒有距離的基層遙遠的這種言論但我們\n也看到有台中地院的公告說讓全院同仁公假半天去參觀展覽那希望能夠放鬆一下心情那我想請問司法院對於這部分有沒有相關的這個指引那讓各地的法院都能這個\n能參照來落實許中立院長的建議,多照顧法官的身心。」有沒有?報告委員,我想這一部分其實大概不需要司法院的指引,目前我們沒有指引,但是其實這都是各法院院長就自動的這樣子來做,就像委員剛才舉例的台中地院,那其實士林地院也有類似的,院長他們法院也有類似的措施,就是鼓勵法官們有半天的工假可以出去\n走一走看一看這樣子的紓壓我希望要落實啊我希望要落實啊那在我就叫我們秘書長齁那在0403的大地震之後我們看到立法院本身也略有災情啦齁不管是這個百年建物的這個院區還是委員會辦公室的研究大樓都出現了一些這個受損或瓷磚剝落甚至這個樑柱裂開水泥石塊這個掉落\n的情形甚至在這個未還這個委員會的天花板還有燈條也整組都掉下來那我想請教祕書長在地震這個兩個禮拜後相關的這個災損都已經檢查完了那也修繕完畢了嗎好好聽長您先回座\n報告委員那因為地震發生的時候我們第一時間已經通知廠商那也在那個連假時間的前兩天就已經絕大多數做成修復那就後續有一些小狀況再做一點整理以上報告好都已經在處理了嗎是好那我想請教祕書長就是在4月1號\n四月一號我曾經質詢過,那是在地震前那我針對我們這個國會擴建的相關期程當時這個秘書長回應是說總務處還在研擬當中也會向韓院長報告那在這個地震發生之後那到現在我想請教說秘書長您已經向韓院長報告和討論過這個事情了沒?\n簽卷我上次跟陳委員報告過。總務處他研議後才會跟韓院長報告是不是要經過黨團協商成立的一個情形。所以就是還沒報告嗎?在研議整個過程。那大概要多久的時間?我當時是有,跟我提是六個月內。\n六個月?\n嚴厲的過程也還沒完成,那也還沒跟韓院長報告這件事情嗎?針對這個還沒有跟,院長報告是上次有一個公督門,院長只是我跟他沒接見的時候曾經有針對這個跟他報告過一次。\n本席會不斷的追蹤這個國會擴建的議題是希望說在整個國會改革的這個討論當中能夠關注到硬體的這一塊我們不是只有這些條文方面我們硬體方面應該要納入去一併討論除了上述保障的這些議事運作維持這個議事的品質以外\n也是為了要提升進行國會外交史的一個格局甚至目前我們立法院內還有許多的地方都可能還是違建的問題也是要透過我們這個國會的這個擴建或是簽建才有辦法解決應該是這樣子吧所以我希望說這個部分秘書長跟我們處長應該要積極來辦理不要說六個月啦應該要縮短期程因為這個已經討論那麼久了為什麼還要再六個月時間\n我相信內部應該都有一個想法了上一次秘書長您也大概有講六個點應該也都有一個這個主要的一個想法所以我希望說應該是要加緊腳步啦客不容緩請秘書長跟處長這個盡快辦理好以上\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:19.497 --> 00:25.760\n好,謝謝主席。那我們有請秘書長跟我們司法院的陳廳長。\n\n00:27.803 --> 00:56.459\n好謝謝有請祕書長還有廳長請陳委員好祕書長好廳長好好首先我先請教我們司法院陳廳長齁那在上個禮拜啦齁上個禮拜士林地院的理性法官那已是因為工作壓力過大而不幸墜樓離世啦齁那一位這麼優秀的法官發生如此的憾事令社會各界非常的萬喜\n\n00:57.742 --> 01:18.436\n那根據媒體的報導在這個遺憾的事件發生之前那李信法官就曾傳簡訊給他的妻子表示說我很累也曾提到說因為這個太多的這種工作壓力讓他可能不堪負荷\n\n01:19.571 --> 01:35.082\n那顯示法官恐怕是長期處於這種高壓過勞的這種工作的環境之下那像這樣的情況我先請教一下我們這個陳庭長您的工作壓力會很大嗎?\n\n01:37.841 --> 01:40.342\n我只有近兩年是在司法院服務那之前都是在辦審判的工作\n\n02:10.510 --> 02:32.759\n因此可見應該在基層的這種法官那種壓力是不堪負荷的那我想請問就是說針對我們這個理法官的憾事也讓我們再次提醒減輕司法體系的這種負擔以及工作負荷的過重的問題是刻不容緩的\n\n02:33.953 --> 02:55.799\n但其實過勞的這個議題已經存在一段時間了那過去不管是在立法院還是民間都有過許多的討論那尤其近幾年我們也知道爆量的這種詐騙案件幾乎淹沒了整個司法體系不管是這個檢警還是法官都在海量的這種案件中咬牙苦撐\n\n02:57.259 --> 03:11.815\n那我想請教廳長就是司法院對於這種這一次發生的事情我們有沒有進行相關的檢討是的跟委員報告那其實司法院在這個昨天也就是17號有召開過檢討會議那關於這個\n\n03:17.514 --> 03:26.837\n一、委員呂玲等17人擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條之一條之一條之二條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條之一條\n\n03:44.503 --> 04:01.311\n而然後持續來推動防度濫訴等等那都是我們可以立即採取的一些的具體的改善的措施那同時那也希望各界能夠關注這個議題然後投入更多的資源給司法\n\n04:02.691 --> 04:19.076\n給司法部門,那因為我們受制於這個中央政府機關總原額法的限制,我們的原額即將用盡,那我想其實是適量大量的人力投入司法,那對於緩解法官的壓力是有助益的,謝謝。\n\n04:20.056 --> 04:44.517\n我希望我們能夠提出具體能夠解決這個問題的辦法跟規劃讓實際在這個基層從事這些工作的法官能夠感受到這個壓力的減輕那我想問題還是不斷的惡化當中所以刻不容緩一定要馬上去做這個事情的解決那不論是人力資源的補充或是判決書類的這個簡化\n\n04:46.599 --> 05:13.071\n那有好的措施就應該要盡快提出來解救司法官在水深火熱之中的這種工作情況而過勞的問題當然不只是存在法官那檢察官也是這部分也請我們法務部是不是也同步積極來檢討和規劃這個再請我們次長協助幫忙並且要深入了解第一線司法人員的這個實際情況避免只上談兵\n\n05:14.144 --> 05:33.088\n那另外對於這件事情我們這個許中立院長日前走訪士林地院的時候也提醒法官要注意身心多參加一些戶外的活動那不要整天都綁在辦公室裡面被法官們認為是一番沒有溫度沒有距離的基層遙遠的這種言論但我們\n\n05:35.919 --> 05:54.896\n也看到有台中地院的公告說讓全院同仁公假半天去參觀展覽那希望能夠放鬆一下心情那我想請問司法院對於這部分有沒有相關的這個指引那讓各地的法院都能這個\n\n05:57.386 --> 06:26.987\n能參照來落實許中立院長的建議,多照顧法官的身心。」有沒有?報告委員,我想這一部分其實大概不需要司法院的指引,目前我們沒有指引,但是其實這都是各法院院長就自動的這樣子來做,就像委員剛才舉例的台中地院,那其實士林地院也有類似的,院長他們法院也有類似的措施,就是鼓勵法官們有半天的工假可以出去\n\n06:27.427 --> 06:55.086\n走一走看一看這樣子的紓壓我希望要落實啊我希望要落實啊那在我就叫我們秘書長齁那在0403的大地震之後我們看到立法院本身也略有災情啦齁不管是這個百年建物的這個院區還是委員會辦公室的研究大樓都出現了一些這個受損或瓷磚剝落甚至這個樑柱裂開水泥石塊這個掉落\n\n06:55.686 --> 07:18.452\n的情形甚至在這個未還這個委員會的天花板還有燈條也整組都掉下來那我想請教祕書長在地震這個兩個禮拜後相關的這個災損都已經檢查完了那也修繕完畢了嗎好好聽長您先回座\n\n07:22.483 --> 07:42.675\n報告委員那因為地震發生的時候我們第一時間已經通知廠商那也在那個連假時間的前兩天就已經絕大多數做成修復那就後續有一些小狀況再做一點整理以上報告好都已經在處理了嗎是好那我想請教祕書長就是在4月1號\n\n07:46.918 --> 08:08.796\n四月一號我曾經質詢過,那是在地震前那我針對我們這個國會擴建的相關期程當時這個秘書長回應是說總務處還在研擬當中也會向韓院長報告那在這個地震發生之後那到現在我想請教說秘書長您已經向韓院長報告和討論過這個事情了沒?\n\n08:11.927 --> 08:33.718\n簽卷我上次跟陳委員報告過。總務處他研議後才會跟韓院長報告是不是要經過黨團協商成立的一個情形。所以就是還沒報告嗎?在研議整個過程。那大概要多久的時間?我當時是有,跟我提是六個月內。\n\n08:34.978 --> 08:35.138\n六個月?\n\n08:50.775 --> 09:04.921\n嚴厲的過程也還沒完成,那也還沒跟韓院長報告這件事情嗎?針對這個還沒有跟,院長報告是上次有一個公督門,院長只是我跟他沒接見的時候曾經有針對這個跟他報告過一次。\n\n09:07.702 --> 09:29.291\n本席會不斷的追蹤這個國會擴建的議題是希望說在整個國會改革的這個討論當中能夠關注到硬體的這一塊我們不是只有這些條文方面我們硬體方面應該要納入去一併討論除了上述保障的這些議事運作維持這個議事的品質以外\n\n09:29.831 --> 09:56.806\n也是為了要提升進行國會外交史的一個格局甚至目前我們立法院內還有許多的地方都可能還是違建的問題也是要透過我們這個國會的這個擴建或是簽建才有辦法解決應該是這樣子吧所以我希望說這個部分秘書長跟我們處長應該要積極來辦理不要說六個月啦應該要縮短期程因為這個已經討論那麼久了為什麼還要再六個月時間\n\n09:57.907 --> 10:14.797\n我相信內部應該都有一個想法了上一次秘書長您也大概有講六個點應該也都有一個這個主要的一個想法所以我希望說應該是要加緊腳步啦客不容緩請秘書長跟處長這個盡快辦理好以上\n\n","segments":[{"start":19.497,"end":25.76,"text":"好,謝謝主席。那我們有請秘書長跟我們司法院的陳廳長。"},{"start":27.803,"end":56.459,"text":"好 謝謝 有請祕書長還有廳長請陳委員好祕書長好 廳長好好 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