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00:00:39,326\n時間很短喔那我把握時間針對今天排審地方制度法三十三條希望能夠擴大對原住民族國人參政的保障那在態度上我們當然是正面的只是在操作的執行上我們需要在找出一個最高的共識最好的方向那回到選舉制度上我們應當好好去思考要繼續去區分山地原住民繼續去區分平地原住民有這個必要嗎\n\n3\n00:00:40,487 --> 00:00:40,627\n案。二、審查委員\n\n4\n00:01:10,827 --> 00:01:23,732\n三、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條\n\n5\n00:01:34,076 --> 00:01:53,202\n這很奇怪啦所以我認為在審議這個條文是真的可以再商榷高金素梅交委的版本其實是一個可以討論的方向那另外我想就教於您今天這個法案修下去之後第一波就是說也是會受影響的縣市大概有八個嘛你們有沒有跟這些縣市徵詢他們的意見\n\n6\n00:01:56,407 --> 00:02:07,870\n因為這個還沒有確定說還沒有正式去跟這個縣市政府你們應該要預作準備啊立法院都在排審了耶任何一個跟地方縣市的執行而且這個是姿勢體大選舉的名額不管內涵外加這影響當地的縣市政府還有他受監督的縣市議會的這個議員的組成和其重大所以如果你還沒有去徵詢那今天審這個那恐怕\n\n7\n00:02:24,095 --> 00:02:41,546\n還值得商榷趕快去徵詢好嗎?否則立法院跑太快可是地方政府跟不上我想這不是提案委員所樂見的,可以嗎?的確,因為這個涉及到可能也不只是西市的問題啦你如果有徵檢的話還涉及到經費來源的問題,也就是說地方的國庫啊,因為西市增加嘛而且這是地方政府要負擔的財源喔,對不對?好\n\n8\n00:02:48,130 --> 00:03:15,744\n那進入我另外一個主題今天我們在關心原住民族的權益那我要跟您談談反歧視法好下一頁校園不斷出發生出現對於原住民族汙名化或是歧視性的言論從國教到高教我這邊秀出來的有我就以去年2023年台中一中發生了大學端台大言論院也發生了歧視原住民族的海報\n\n9\n00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,901\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等20人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案案。\n\n10\n00:03:30,273 --> 00:03:49,129\n台灣需要反歧視法這是落實讓人權條約國內法化所以國際的人權公約第一種就是我們今天相關的種族歧視的國際公約台灣必須有一個國內法來反映我們跟進國際反歧視一切平等的作為下一頁\n\n11\n00:03:49,910 --> 00:04:08,407\n台灣需要一部反歧視法因為我們要跟上聯合國SDGs的目標而當中一個指標減少不平等的這個指標就包括對於所有人的尊嚴他的射精地位生存平等政府都要給予包容跟支持的政策來協助他下一頁\n\n12\n00:04:12,830 --> 00:04:39,177\n可是次長你看喔,現在台灣對於反歧視的是散列於各法而且現行的法律是欠缺一致性譬如說我們對性別平等教育法、性別平等工作法是對於性別的平等保障那對於原住民族有一個工作權益的保障可是他就沒有那麼嚴謹我們對於新住民也試圖在入出國籍移民法去規範但是他散列各法,各法欠缺一致性下一頁\n\n13\n00:04:40,817 --> 00:05:06,831\n所以說我非常樂見我們不分藍綠的立委反族群歧視法在台灣在國會已經有四位委員提案了藍綠都有但是他是focus在反族群歧視法提案的都是原住民族的委員包括本黨的吳立華委員包括本黨的陳寅委員好下一頁我要就教於您的就是\n\n14\n00:05:08,058 --> 00:05:30,364\n如果說是四位委員所提的反族群的平等法都會落在主管機關市內政部或是園民會但如果說反歧視法現在法務部以及行政院的人權及轉型正義處同時在研議一個適用於所有對象不同對象的\n\n15\n00:05:31,745 --> 00:06:00,371\n國家級的反歧視法或稱為平等法。」這是法務部在草擬。換言之下一頁我為什麼這個提問呢?因為陳建仁院長在去年5月接受立法院院會委員的總質詢的時候他說會委由內政部來提出反族群歧視平等法的修法也就是要有內政部的佈板但是他是focus在族群歧視的部分\n\n16\n00:06:00,911 --> 00:06:03,772\n可是因為我是司法法制委員會,我也質詢了法務部部長,法務部現在回覆給我說,行政院傾向於要把它成為一部專法,而不是單獨針對族群做一個單獨的立法,所以我就要問你們了,\n\n17\n00:06:16,276 --> 00:06:31,666\n現在內政部對於族群平等法有繼續研議嗎還是已經停下腳步隨同法務部這個國家內閣一致的用一個反歧視的專法喊罵所有的反歧視行為現在你們的研議跟方向是什麼\n\n18\n00:06:33,415 --> 00:06:47,113\n法務委員,我想要先強調,任何歧視是不被引起的。這一部分當初在移民法修正的時候有提到這個反歧視,但是現在\n\n19\n00:06:49,496 --> 00:07:05,656\n現在講說那這麼大嚴厲反歧視的租金平等法目前是沒有在我們移民署這邊是沒有沒有所以應當就是配合法務部以及行政院的平等處去做一個專法的方向很好下一頁\n\n20\n00:07:06,337 --> 00:07:26,474\n那還好我來得及來踩這個煞車。就是說台灣是需要一部平等法或是稱之為反歧視法還是專法。我們比較於國際經驗,不管是進步的加拿大、德國、英國乃至於鄰近的日本,他們的立法也是專法。含納所有包括性別、年齡、外貌、包括工作、環境\n\n21\n00:07:28,015 --> 00:07:35,596\n案。二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等17人擬具:「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案案案件。三、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等17人擬具:「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案案件。二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等17人擬具:「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案案件。\n\n22\n00:07:56,062 --> 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Kacaw等17人擬具:「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案案件。\n476062\t477751\t好謝謝謝謝主席好謝謝吳斯耀委員的質詢\n","txt":"有請次長\n時間很短喔那我把握時間針對今天排審地方制度法三十三條希望能夠擴大對原住民族國人參政的保障那在態度上我們當然是正面的只是在操作的執行上我們需要在找出一個最高的共識最好的方向那回到選舉制度上我們應當好好去思考要繼續去區分山地原住民繼續去區分平地原住民有這個必要嗎\n案。二、審查委員\n三、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條\n這很奇怪啦所以我認為在審議這個條文是真的可以再商榷高金素梅交委的版本其實是一個可以討論的方向那另外我想就教於您今天這個法案修下去之後第一波就是說也是會受影響的縣市大概有八個嘛你們有沒有跟這些縣市徵詢他們的意見\n因為這個還沒有確定說還沒有正式去跟這個縣市政府你們應該要預作準備啊立法院都在排審了耶任何一個跟地方縣市的執行而且這個是姿勢體大選舉的名額不管內涵外加這影響當地的縣市政府還有他受監督的縣市議會的這個議員的組成和其重大所以如果你還沒有去徵詢那今天審這個那恐怕\n還值得商榷趕快去徵詢好嗎?否則立法院跑太快可是地方政府跟不上我想這不是提案委員所樂見的,可以嗎?的確,因為這個涉及到可能也不只是西市的問題啦你如果有徵檢的話還涉及到經費來源的問題,也就是說地方的國庫啊,因為西市增加嘛而且這是地方政府要負擔的財源喔,對不對?好\n那進入我另外一個主題今天我們在關心原住民族的權益那我要跟您談談反歧視法好下一頁校園不斷出發生出現對於原住民族汙名化或是歧視性的言論從國教到高教我這邊秀出來的有我就以去年2023年台中一中發生了大學端台大言論院也發生了歧視原住民族的海報\n二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案案。\n台灣需要反歧視法這是落實讓人權條約國內法化所以國際的人權公約第一種就是我們今天相關的種族歧視的國際公約台灣必須有一個國內法來反映我們跟進國際反歧視一切平等的作為下一頁\n台灣需要一部反歧視法因為我們要跟上聯合國SDGs的目標而當中一個指標減少不平等的這個指標就包括對於所有人的尊嚴他的射精地位生存平等政府都要給予包容跟支持的政策來協助他下一頁\n可是次長你看喔,現在台灣對於反歧視的是散列於各法而且現行的法律是欠缺一致性譬如說我們對性別平等教育法、性別平等工作法是對於性別的平等保障那對於原住民族有一個工作權益的保障可是他就沒有那麼嚴謹我們對於新住民也試圖在入出國籍移民法去規範但是他散列各法,各法欠缺一致性下一頁\n所以說我非常樂見我們不分藍綠的立委反族群歧視法在台灣在國會已經有四位委員提案了藍綠都有但是他是focus在反族群歧視法提案的都是原住民族的委員包括本黨的吳立華委員包括本黨的陳寅委員好下一頁我要就教於您的就是\n如果說是四位委員所提的反族群的平等法都會落在主管機關市內政部或是園民會但如果說反歧視法現在法務部以及行政院的人權及轉型正義處同時在研議一個適用於所有對象不同對象的\n國家級的反歧視法或稱為平等法。」這是法務部在草擬。換言之下一頁我為什麼這個提問呢?因為陳建仁院長在去年5月接受立法院院會委員的總質詢的時候他說會委由內政部來提出反族群歧視平等法的修法也就是要有內政部的佈板但是他是focus在族群歧視的部分\n可是因為我是司法法制委員會,我也質詢了法務部部長,法務部現在回覆給我說,行政院傾向於要把它成為一部專法,而不是單獨針對族群做一個單獨的立法,所以我就要問你們了,\n現在內政部對於族群平等法有繼續研議嗎還是已經停下腳步隨同法務部這個國家內閣一致的用一個反歧視的專法喊罵所有的反歧視行為現在你們的研議跟方向是什麼\n法務委員,我想要先強調,任何歧視是不被引起的。這一部分當初在移民法修正的時候有提到這個反歧視,但是現在\n現在講說那這麼大嚴厲反歧視的租金平等法目前是沒有在我們移民署這邊是沒有沒有所以應當就是配合法務部以及行政院的平等處去做一個專法的方向很好下一頁\n那還好我來得及來踩這個煞車。就是說台灣是需要一部平等法或是稱之為反歧視法還是專法。我們比較於國際經驗,不管是進步的加拿大、德國、英國乃至於鄰近的日本,他們的立法也是專法。含納所有包括性別、年齡、外貌、包括工作、環境\n案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具:「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案案案件。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具:「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案案件。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具:「地方制度法第三十三條條文修正草案案件。\n好謝謝謝謝主席好謝謝吳斯耀委員的質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.377 --> 00:03.518\n有請次長\n\n00:11.112 --> 00:39.326\n時間很短喔那我把握時間針對今天排審地方制度法三十三條希望能夠擴大對原住民族國人參政的保障那在態度上我們當然是正面的只是在操作的執行上我們需要在找出一個最高的共識最好的方向那回到選舉制度上我們應當好好去思考要繼續去區分山地原住民繼續去區分平地原住民有這個必要嗎\n\n00:40.487 --> 00:40.627\n案。二、審查委員\n\n01:10.827 --> 01:23.732\n三、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條文修正草案：一、審查委員賴士葆等21人擬具:「地方制度法第七條之一條\n\n01:34.076 --> 01:53.202\n這很奇怪啦所以我認為在審議這個條文是真的可以再商榷高金素梅交委的版本其實是一個可以討論的方向那另外我想就教於您今天這個法案修下去之後第一波就是說也是會受影響的縣市大概有八個嘛你們有沒有跟這些縣市徵詢他們的意見\n\n01:56.407 --> 02:07.870\n因為這個還沒有確定說還沒有正式去跟這個縣市政府你們應該要預作準備啊立法院都在排審了耶任何一個跟地方縣市的執行而且這個是姿勢體大選舉的名額不管內涵外加這影響當地的縣市政府還有他受監督的縣市議會的這個議員的組成和其重大所以如果你還沒有去徵詢那今天審這個那恐怕\n\n02:24.095 --> 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