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00:02:15,211\n那因為未待安全報事實上是一個很危險的發生車很危險的這部分我覺得可以討論我想說在這一次在這十項裡面我們用一二零零是主要是找到道交條例跟財劃細則有的這個基礎下的產物但是的確各個委員所談到單項裡面我看今天委員都有談到單項裡面我覺得可以討論如果它本身是\n\n7\n00:02:16,192 --> 00:02:43,171\n是大家覺得是這個危險的我是覺得可以討論所以在上次的公聽會完了之後主要這兩點是認為應該要加入納入的因為最主要是公聽會當天沒有辦法去做詢答嘛所以說許多的建議來講希望能夠具體的能夠被交通部聽到而且能夠被納入那所以部長也針對這兩點的話有做一個具體的回應因為\n\n8\n00:02:44,051 --> 00:03:08,326\n這些公督會大家積極地準備,尤其這些團體還遠道而來,所以這些重點的一些建議啊,所以我是希望能夠去具體時間也不能夠傳過所無痕啊,那所以部長是有做具體回應。是,我想我想那個今天詢答完可能未來就是委員的提案啊,我想也歡迎委員覺得哪一些單項,一些建議就可以提案。這個剛剛是有在做整理。對,就在提案是。\n\n9\n00:03:09,027 --> 00:03:22,927\n對那再來的話我想接著請教一下警政署在過去一年加強執法在降低行人入口死傷及死亡方面成效如何那因為今天警政署有來那在去年5月到今年3月共開出了12.3萬多張的紅單\n\n10\n00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:42,649\n那路口不理讓行人那這樣子的開的這個單數是非常的多但是想問一下那這樣子在去年跟今年對這個績效如何?你覺得對改善這個死傷的這個數據?希望請警政署回答一下\n\n11\n00:03:44,934 --> 00:04:10,225\n有執法之後還有其他的宣導在有關於行人死亡的這個部分在112年的部分比112年死亡減少了41人那這個部分是有比較明確的就是明顯的這個減少那當然這個減少我們還是不滿意還是要繼續那配合各個單位來加強來執法\n\n12\n00:04:12,096 --> 00:04:27,873\n那個新人少了14人啦。死亡少14人。14人。好沒關係因為我們是拿那個區間比較但是不管是區間怎麼樣去做比較14人也好、一人也好但是這個績效跟成效我相信還要持續加強所以說還不夠還不夠嘛\n\n13\n00:04:29,855 --> 00:04:57,494\n所以還不是很滿意嗎?那就繼續改善那同樣的這也牽扯出不管是剛才其他委員有提到的宣導的部分不管剛才楊瓊英委員還有包括黃國昌委員有提到那其實在許多的宣導上面是還是不夠的那不管是到案講習這不是說部長去到案講習而是說大家在許多的民眾不管是被罰的去到案之外在許多的學校或是民眾\n\n14\n00:04:59,014 --> 00:05:02,555\n交通部主管理處罰條例第七條之一、第六十三條之二條文修正草案案。\n\n15\n00:05:24,803 --> 00:05:51,130\n第一個現在我們跟教育部有一個教材他是叫五階段教材一萬年級一套三四然後五六然後高中、高中總共五套那現在這個教育已經納到有很多的版本了看康軒他們納到教材裡面這是在裡面的然後第二個是在老人的部分老人部分我們現在有大概一千六百人的路老師\n\n16\n00:05:52,470 --> 00:05:52,631\n報告報告\n\n17\n00:06:11,969 --> 00:06:27,892\n我本期還是建議一下就是說在這個宣導的部分其實確實還是不夠那因為如果說像是我跟團隊全面在跑地方的各種活動其實在交通安全的這個場次那在這個宣導的部分\n\n18\n00:06:28,533 --> 00:06:55,662\n第一就是場次不夠、次數不夠、面相不夠管還對於受眾的部分包括這些民眾他們其實能夠的普遍的在接受這個講習跟跟這個宣導的其實需要再做持續加強甚至在不管是電視或是網路上其實需要持續加強因為剛才國昌委員有提到那個畫面嘛就是大貨車這個輪廈的部分所以我們其實在地方上有時候在這個\n\n19\n00:06:56,682 --> 00:07:22,148\n殺死車專用道還是常常會發現殺死車在開民眾也還是騎著機車所以旁邊要超越殺死車所以說這個部分都還是在於宣導的部分最後的話本席還是想要針對駕駛人的工作權有關於他們有在提到有包括在卸貨或是計程車他們在停靠的部分本席直接建議因為時間有限\n\n20\n00:07:23,428 --> 00:07:47,723\n因為如果在做於交通不管是行人或是包括許多駕駛人的部分去做法規的檢討的時候其實像現在的不斷的修正的法規應該交通部如何規劃各縣市政府能夠配合在許多重要人常常出入的商街街道能夠重新再去規劃劃設他們的這個停車格不管是說\n\n21\n00:07:48,664 --> 00:08:16,994\n因為一般來講都是民眾反映民意代表到最後來去做會刊、縣刊可是如何做整體的一個針對不管是計程車或者是包括我們許多的卸貨區來能夠做一個通盤檢討而且由教育部的那個交通部這邊主動交通部主動來去主導讓縣市政府來配合這樣子也才能有效的減低不管是被檢舉違規檢舉或是平常在在被開罰的情況想請教一下部長\n\n22\n00:08:19,936 --> 00:08:41,192\n現在已經有方案就是包括這個剛才停車這個專用停車格的部分包括劃黃線的部分我們階段性的成果是在今年6月底就各縣市執行的成果會回報那的確就是說這個就是這個您之前所談到的就是說環境如果沒有弄好變成他\n\n23\n00:08:41,972 --> 00:09:03,392\n不得不違規,那這個就是我們在執法上的這個理由比較不充分。這也是這次我們修法裡面就是說這些相關的環境的配套是政府應該負的責任。所以我們現在有4年4百億的預算在補助地方政府,包括南投都可以來申請,我們都會補助他去做這些人行停車格的設施。\n\n24\n00:09:04,193 --> 00:09:26,629\n我想這部分就是同時說非常同意就是說教育你剛才談到教育那工程現在在做然後執法可能在目前要做一些前移的調整最後一句就是6月底前的時候到時候還是請部內的同仁把各縣市的一個執行跟通販檢討改善的情況也跟交通委員會委員做報告謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n12685\t13449\t報告 請王部長\n21386\t44106\t有緣好謝謝部長好那延續了剛才許多委員提到包括這一次的交通安全其實不管是修法的部分那還有許多不管是行人用路權那其包括上次的研討會那相信都已經經過了許多的探討那本期想要在這裡先就教一下部長\n44767\t66138\t但那時候在地震的時候我知道交通部也是在全面的在協助救災啦那時候您也特別來出席了公聽會那公聽會到現在也差不多有兩個禮拜那時候的公聽會許多的團體包括委員其實都有表達很多的一些建議跟看法\n66658\t81283\t不管是駕駛人的團體或是用路人的團體那本人想要請教一下針對那次的公聽會所做的那麼多的一個重點或是結論交通部對於公聽會的這些建言建議有沒有提出什麼樣的具體回應\n83134\t106387\t就是討論完以後大概有幾項我個人是覺得是可以討論的其中第一個就是身心障礙停車位的占用我個人是支持這個還是納到可以檢舉的項目因為身心障礙者他找這個停車位有時候不是那麼容易然後另外也有談到這個未戴安全帽可不可以開放檢舉這件事\n107688\t135211\t那因為未待安全報事實上是一個很危險的發生車很危險的這部分我覺得可以討論我想說在這一次在這十項裡面我們用一二零零是主要是找到道交條例跟財劃細則有的這個基礎下的產物但是的確各個委員所談到單項裡面我看今天委員都有談到單項裡面我覺得可以討論如果它本身是\n136192\t163171\t是大家覺得是這個危險的我是覺得可以討論所以在上次的公聽會完了之後主要這兩點是認為應該要加入納入的因為最主要是公聽會當天沒有辦法去做詢答嘛所以說許多的建議來講希望能夠具體的能夠被交通部聽到而且能夠被納入那所以部長也針對這兩點的話有做一個具體的回應因為\n164051\t188326\t這些公督會大家積極地準備,尤其這些團體還遠道而來,所以這些重點的一些建議啊,所以我是希望能夠去具體時間也不能夠傳過所無痕啊,那所以部長是有做具體回應。是,我想我想那個今天詢答完可能未來就是委員的提案啊,我想也歡迎委員覺得哪一些單項,一些建議就可以提案。這個剛剛是有在做整理。對,就在提案是。\n189027\t202927\t對那再來的話我想接著請教一下警政署在過去一年加強執法在降低行人入口死傷及死亡方面成效如何那因為今天警政署有來那在去年5月到今年3月共開出了12.3萬多張的紅單\n205430\t222649\t那路口不理讓行人那這樣子的開的這個單數是非常的多但是想問一下那這樣子在去年跟今年對這個績效如何?你覺得對改善這個死傷的這個數據?希望請警政署回答一下\n224934\t250225\t有執法之後還有其他的宣導在有關於行人死亡的這個部分在112年的部分比112年死亡減少了41人那這個部分是有比較明確的就是明顯的這個減少那當然這個減少我們還是不滿意還是要繼續那配合各個單位來加強來執法\n252096\t267873\t那個新人少了14人啦。死亡少14人。14人。好沒關係因為我們是拿那個區間比較但是不管是區間怎麼樣去做比較14人也好、一人也好但是這個績效跟成效我相信還要持續加強所以說還不夠還不夠嘛\n269855\t297494\t所以還不是很滿意嗎?那就繼續改善那同樣的這也牽扯出不管是剛才其他委員有提到的宣導的部分不管剛才楊瓊英委員還有包括黃國昌委員有提到那其實在許多的宣導上面是還是不夠的那不管是到案講習這不是說部長去到案講習而是說大家在許多的民眾不管是被罰的去到案之外在許多的學校或是民眾\n299014\t302555\t交通部主管理處罰條例第七條之一、第六十三條之二條文修正草案案。\n324803\t351130\t第一個現在我們跟教育部有一個教材他是叫五階段教材一萬年級一套三四然後五六然後高中、高中總共五套那現在這個教育已經納到有很多的版本了看康軒他們納到教材裡面這是在裡面的然後第二個是在老人的部分老人部分我們現在有大概一千六百人的路老師\n352470\t352631\t報告報告\n371969\t387892\t我本期還是建議一下就是說在這個宣導的部分其實確實還是不夠那因為如果說像是我跟團隊全面在跑地方的各種活動其實在交通安全的這個場次那在這個宣導的部分\n388533\t415662\t第一就是場次不夠、次數不夠、面相不夠管還對於受眾的部分包括這些民眾他們其實能夠的普遍的在接受這個講習跟跟這個宣導的其實需要再做持續加強甚至在不管是電視或是網路上其實需要持續加強因為剛才國昌委員有提到那個畫面嘛就是大貨車這個輪廈的部分所以我們其實在地方上有時候在這個\n416682\t442148\t殺死車專用道還是常常會發現殺死車在開民眾也還是騎著機車所以旁邊要超越殺死車所以說這個部分都還是在於宣導的部分最後的話本席還是想要針對駕駛人的工作權有關於他們有在提到有包括在卸貨或是計程車他們在停靠的部分本席直接建議因為時間有限\n443428\t467723\t因為如果在做於交通不管是行人或是包括許多駕駛人的部分去做法規的檢討的時候其實像現在的不斷的修正的法規應該交通部如何規劃各縣市政府能夠配合在許多重要人常常出入的商街街道能夠重新再去規劃劃設他們的這個停車格不管是說\n468664\t496994\t因為一般來講都是民眾反映民意代表到最後來去做會刊、縣刊可是如何做整體的一個針對不管是計程車或者是包括我們許多的卸貨區來能夠做一個通盤檢討而且由教育部的那個交通部這邊主動交通部主動來去主導讓縣市政府來配合這樣子也才能有效的減低不管是被檢舉違規檢舉或是平常在在被開罰的情況想請教一下部長\n499936\t521192\t現在已經有方案就是包括這個剛才停車這個專用停車格的部分包括劃黃線的部分我們階段性的成果是在今年6月底就各縣市執行的成果會回報那的確就是說這個就是這個您之前所談到的就是說環境如果沒有弄好變成他\n521972\t543392\t不得不違規,那這個就是我們在執法上的這個理由比較不充分。這也是這次我們修法裡面就是說這些相關的環境的配套是政府應該負的責任。所以我們現在有4年4百億的預算在補助地方政府,包括南投都可以來申請,我們都會補助他去做這些人行停車格的設施。\n544193\t566629\t我想這部分就是同時說非常同意就是說教育你剛才談到教育那工程現在在做然後執法可能在目前要做一些前移的調整最後一句就是6月底前的時候到時候還是請部內的同仁把各縣市的一個執行跟通販檢討改善的情況也跟交通委員會委員做報告謝謝\n","txt":"報告 請王部長\n有緣好謝謝部長好那延續了剛才許多委員提到包括這一次的交通安全其實不管是修法的部分那還有許多不管是行人用路權那其包括上次的研討會那相信都已經經過了許多的探討那本期想要在這裡先就教一下部長\n但那時候在地震的時候我知道交通部也是在全面的在協助救災啦那時候您也特別來出席了公聽會那公聽會到現在也差不多有兩個禮拜那時候的公聽會許多的團體包括委員其實都有表達很多的一些建議跟看法\n不管是駕駛人的團體或是用路人的團體那本人想要請教一下針對那次的公聽會所做的那麼多的一個重點或是結論交通部對於公聽會的這些建言建議有沒有提出什麼樣的具體回應\n就是討論完以後大概有幾項我個人是覺得是可以討論的其中第一個就是身心障礙停車位的占用我個人是支持這個還是納到可以檢舉的項目因為身心障礙者他找這個停車位有時候不是那麼容易然後另外也有談到這個未戴安全帽可不可以開放檢舉這件事\n那因為未待安全報事實上是一個很危險的發生車很危險的這部分我覺得可以討論我想說在這一次在這十項裡面我們用一二零零是主要是找到道交條例跟財劃細則有的這個基礎下的產物但是的確各個委員所談到單項裡面我看今天委員都有談到單項裡面我覺得可以討論如果它本身是\n是大家覺得是這個危險的我是覺得可以討論所以在上次的公聽會完了之後主要這兩點是認為應該要加入納入的因為最主要是公聽會當天沒有辦法去做詢答嘛所以說許多的建議來講希望能夠具體的能夠被交通部聽到而且能夠被納入那所以部長也針對這兩點的話有做一個具體的回應因為\n這些公督會大家積極地準備,尤其這些團體還遠道而來,所以這些重點的一些建議啊,所以我是希望能夠去具體時間也不能夠傳過所無痕啊,那所以部長是有做具體回應。是,我想我想那個今天詢答完可能未來就是委員的提案啊,我想也歡迎委員覺得哪一些單項,一些建議就可以提案。這個剛剛是有在做整理。對,就在提案是。\n對那再來的話我想接著請教一下警政署在過去一年加強執法在降低行人入口死傷及死亡方面成效如何那因為今天警政署有來那在去年5月到今年3月共開出了12.3萬多張的紅單\n那路口不理讓行人那這樣子的開的這個單數是非常的多但是想問一下那這樣子在去年跟今年對這個績效如何?你覺得對改善這個死傷的這個數據?希望請警政署回答一下\n有執法之後還有其他的宣導在有關於行人死亡的這個部分在112年的部分比112年死亡減少了41人那這個部分是有比較明確的就是明顯的這個減少那當然這個減少我們還是不滿意還是要繼續那配合各個單位來加強來執法\n那個新人少了14人啦。死亡少14人。14人。好沒關係因為我們是拿那個區間比較但是不管是區間怎麼樣去做比較14人也好、一人也好但是這個績效跟成效我相信還要持續加強所以說還不夠還不夠嘛\n所以還不是很滿意嗎?那就繼續改善那同樣的這也牽扯出不管是剛才其他委員有提到的宣導的部分不管剛才楊瓊英委員還有包括黃國昌委員有提到那其實在許多的宣導上面是還是不夠的那不管是到案講習這不是說部長去到案講習而是說大家在許多的民眾不管是被罰的去到案之外在許多的學校或是民眾\n交通部主管理處罰條例第七條之一、第六十三條之二條文修正草案案。\n第一個現在我們跟教育部有一個教材他是叫五階段教材一萬年級一套三四然後五六然後高中、高中總共五套那現在這個教育已經納到有很多的版本了看康軒他們納到教材裡面這是在裡面的然後第二個是在老人的部分老人部分我們現在有大概一千六百人的路老師\n報告報告\n我本期還是建議一下就是說在這個宣導的部分其實確實還是不夠那因為如果說像是我跟團隊全面在跑地方的各種活動其實在交通安全的這個場次那在這個宣導的部分\n第一就是場次不夠、次數不夠、面相不夠管還對於受眾的部分包括這些民眾他們其實能夠的普遍的在接受這個講習跟跟這個宣導的其實需要再做持續加強甚至在不管是電視或是網路上其實需要持續加強因為剛才國昌委員有提到那個畫面嘛就是大貨車這個輪廈的部分所以我們其實在地方上有時候在這個\n殺死車專用道還是常常會發現殺死車在開民眾也還是騎著機車所以旁邊要超越殺死車所以說這個部分都還是在於宣導的部分最後的話本席還是想要針對駕駛人的工作權有關於他們有在提到有包括在卸貨或是計程車他們在停靠的部分本席直接建議因為時間有限\n因為如果在做於交通不管是行人或是包括許多駕駛人的部分去做法規的檢討的時候其實像現在的不斷的修正的法規應該交通部如何規劃各縣市政府能夠配合在許多重要人常常出入的商街街道能夠重新再去規劃劃設他們的這個停車格不管是說\n因為一般來講都是民眾反映民意代表到最後來去做會刊、縣刊可是如何做整體的一個針對不管是計程車或者是包括我們許多的卸貨區來能夠做一個通盤檢討而且由教育部的那個交通部這邊主動交通部主動來去主導讓縣市政府來配合這樣子也才能有效的減低不管是被檢舉違規檢舉或是平常在在被開罰的情況想請教一下部長\n現在已經有方案就是包括這個剛才停車這個專用停車格的部分包括劃黃線的部分我們階段性的成果是在今年6月底就各縣市執行的成果會回報那的確就是說這個就是這個您之前所談到的就是說環境如果沒有弄好變成他\n不得不違規,那這個就是我們在執法上的這個理由比較不充分。這也是這次我們修法裡面就是說這些相關的環境的配套是政府應該負的責任。所以我們現在有4年4百億的預算在補助地方政府,包括南投都可以來申請,我們都會補助他去做這些人行停車格的設施。\n我想這部分就是同時說非常同意就是說教育你剛才談到教育那工程現在在做然後執法可能在目前要做一些前移的調整最後一句就是6月底前的時候到時候還是請部內的同仁把各縣市的一個執行跟通販檢討改善的情況也跟交通委員會委員做報告謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:12.685 --> 00:13.449\n報告請王部長\n\n00:21.386 --> 00:44.106\n有緣好謝謝部長好那延續了剛才許多委員提到包括這一次的交通安全其實不管是修法的部分那還有許多不管是行人用路權那其包括上次的研討會那相信都已經經過了許多的探討那本期想要在這裡先就教一下部長\n\n00:44.767 --> 01:06.138\n但那時候在地震的時候我知道交通部也是在全面的在協助救災啦那時候您也特別來出席了公聽會那公聽會到現在也差不多有兩個禮拜那時候的公聽會許多的團體包括委員其實都有表達很多的一些建議跟看法\n\n01:06.658 --> 01:21.283\n不管是駕駛人的團體或是用路人的團體那本人想要請教一下針對那次的公聽會所做的那麼多的一個重點或是結論交通部對於公聽會的這些建言建議有沒有提出什麼樣的具體回應\n\n01:23.134 --> 01:46.387\n就是討論完以後大概有幾項我個人是覺得是可以討論的其中第一個就是身心障礙停車位的占用我個人是支持這個還是納到可以檢舉的項目因為身心障礙者他找這個停車位有時候不是那麼容易然後另外也有談到這個未戴安全帽可不可以開放檢舉這件事\n\n01:47.688 --> 02:15.211\n那因為未待安全報事實上是一個很危險的發生車很危險的這部分我覺得可以討論我想說在這一次在這十項裡面我們用一二零零是主要是找到道交條例跟財劃細則有的這個基礎下的產物但是的確各個委員所談到單項裡面我看今天委員都有談到單項裡面我覺得可以討論如果它本身是\n\n02:16.192 --> 02:43.171\n是大家覺得是這個危險的我是覺得可以討論所以在上次的公聽會完了之後主要這兩點是認為應該要加入納入的因為最主要是公聽會當天沒有辦法去做詢答嘛所以說許多的建議來講希望能夠具體的能夠被交通部聽到而且能夠被納入那所以部長也針對這兩點的話有做一個具體的回應因為\n\n02:44.051 --> 03:08.326\n這些公督會大家積極地準備,尤其這些團體還遠道而來,所以這些重點的一些建議啊,所以我是希望能夠去具體時間也不能夠傳過所無痕啊,那所以部長是有做具體回應。是,我想我想那個今天詢答完可能未來就是委員的提案啊,我想也歡迎委員覺得哪一些單項,一些建議就可以提案。這個剛剛是有在做整理。對,就在提案是。\n\n03:09.027 --> 03:22.927\n對那再來的話我想接著請教一下警政署在過去一年加強執法在降低行人入口死傷及死亡方面成效如何那因為今天警政署有來那在去年5月到今年3月共開出了12.3萬多張的紅單\n\n03:25.430 --> 03:42.649\n那路口不理讓行人那這樣子的開的這個單數是非常的多但是想問一下那這樣子在去年跟今年對這個績效如何?你覺得對改善這個死傷的這個數據?希望請警政署回答一下\n\n03:44.934 --> 04:10.225\n有執法之後還有其他的宣導在有關於行人死亡的這個部分在112年的部分比112年死亡減少了41人那這個部分是有比較明確的就是明顯的這個減少那當然這個減少我們還是不滿意還是要繼續那配合各個單位來加強來執法\n\n04:12.096 --> 04:27.873\n那個新人少了14人啦。死亡少14人。14人。好沒關係因為我們是拿那個區間比較但是不管是區間怎麼樣去做比較14人也好、一人也好但是這個績效跟成效我相信還要持續加強所以說還不夠還不夠嘛\n\n04:29.855 --> 04:57.494\n所以還不是很滿意嗎?那就繼續改善那同樣的這也牽扯出不管是剛才其他委員有提到的宣導的部分不管剛才楊瓊英委員還有包括黃國昌委員有提到那其實在許多的宣導上面是還是不夠的那不管是到案講習這不是說部長去到案講習而是說大家在許多的民眾不管是被罰的去到案之外在許多的學校或是民眾\n\n04:59.014 --> 05:02.555\n交通部主管理處罰條例第七條之一、第六十三條之二條文修正草案案。\n\n05:24.803 --> 05:51.130\n第一個現在我們跟教育部有一個教材他是叫五階段教材一萬年級一套三四然後五六然後高中、高中總共五套那現在這個教育已經納到有很多的版本了看康軒他們納到教材裡面這是在裡面的然後第二個是在老人的部分老人部分我們現在有大概一千六百人的路老師\n\n05:52.470 --> 05:52.631\n報告報告\n\n06:11.969 --> 06:27.892\n我本期還是建議一下就是說在這個宣導的部分其實確實還是不夠那因為如果說像是我跟團隊全面在跑地方的各種活動其實在交通安全的這個場次那在這個宣導的部分\n\n06:28.533 --> 06:55.662\n第一就是場次不夠、次數不夠、面相不夠管還對於受眾的部分包括這些民眾他們其實能夠的普遍的在接受這個講習跟跟這個宣導的其實需要再做持續加強甚至在不管是電視或是網路上其實需要持續加強因為剛才國昌委員有提到那個畫面嘛就是大貨車這個輪廈的部分所以我們其實在地方上有時候在這個\n\n06:56.682 --> 07:22.148\n殺死車專用道還是常常會發現殺死車在開民眾也還是騎著機車所以旁邊要超越殺死車所以說這個部分都還是在於宣導的部分最後的話本席還是想要針對駕駛人的工作權有關於他們有在提到有包括在卸貨或是計程車他們在停靠的部分本席直接建議因為時間有限\n\n07:23.428 --> 07:47.723\n因為如果在做於交通不管是行人或是包括許多駕駛人的部分去做法規的檢討的時候其實像現在的不斷的修正的法規應該交通部如何規劃各縣市政府能夠配合在許多重要人常常出入的商街街道能夠重新再去規劃劃設他們的這個停車格不管是說\n\n07:48.664 --> 08:16.994\n因為一般來講都是民眾反映民意代表到最後來去做會刊、縣刊可是如何做整體的一個針對不管是計程車或者是包括我們許多的卸貨區來能夠做一個通盤檢討而且由教育部的那個交通部這邊主動交通部主動來去主導讓縣市政府來配合這樣子也才能有效的減低不管是被檢舉違規檢舉或是平常在在被開罰的情況想請教一下部長\n\n08:19.936 --> 08:41.192\n現在已經有方案就是包括這個剛才停車這個專用停車格的部分包括劃黃線的部分我們階段性的成果是在今年6月底就各縣市執行的成果會回報那的確就是說這個就是這個您之前所談到的就是說環境如果沒有弄好變成他\n\n08:41.972 --> 09:03.392\n不得不違規,那這個就是我們在執法上的這個理由比較不充分。這也是這次我們修法裡面就是說這些相關的環境的配套是政府應該負的責任。所以我們現在有4年4百億的預算在補助地方政府,包括南投都可以來申請,我們都會補助他去做這些人行停車格的設施。\n\n09:04.193 --> 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