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00:00:57,555\n那就在這個執政黨這個自滿的同時在自我感覺良好的同時就陸續爆發了多起案件包括這個蘇丹紅的辣椒粉事件寶林茶室的龐克劣酸的中毒案件以及陸續有很多的餐廳發生食安中毒的這個部分那4月初臺中市的衛生局\n\n3\n00:00:58,355 --> 00:01:11,860\n還查獲黑胡椒粉原料中也是參有蘇丹紅四號色素造成國人對飲食的安全不論是你在家自己開火還是外食都感到憂心忡忡、人心惶惶\n\n4\n00:01:14,381 --> 00:01:38,593\n那尤其是蘇丹紅三號跟四號他這個是工業原料那參加在中國進口的這個辣椒粉原料當中其實食藥署早在2021年就已經查獲了但在去年的中巡他因為發現這個查獲的這個案件頻率非常的高所以在去年年底他就宣稱說將逐批查驗\n\n5\n00:01:39,753 --> 00:02:04,223\n但是顯然沒有落實這個除批查驗的這個事實他放任違法的原料整個進入台灣造成這個全台大淪陷更離譜的就是衛福部的王必勝次長他誇口一個月內要結束蘇丹紅的這個風暴案子這個施藥署也耗盡了很多的人力跟物力\n\n6\n00:02:06,650 --> 00:02:21,705\n但是仍然無法將已經進口到臺灣的蘇丹紅原料進行完整查禁所以在4月初再度被地方政府查驗出參載在其他的調味料產品當中\n\n7\n00:02:22,967 --> 00:02:41,803\n這種種的問題都顯示了陳院長所謂的十案五環所建制的食品雲不但不能夠有效的監督管理食品製造業者在源頭跟流向的管理更沒有辦法落實在邊境進行防堵的工作\n\n8\n00:02:43,410 --> 00:03:05,681\n重重打蝕了國人對食安的信心因此本黨、臺灣民眾黨認為政府為了保障食安不該淪為口號我們要求行政院長要帶領行政團隊再次針對兩個問題第一如何改善跨部會的食品雲系統登載率過低的問題\n\n9\n00:03:07,745 --> 00:03:31,294\n我個人的辦公室曾經向財政部的公務署徵詢相關的資料他們就推給衛福部的食藥署整個跨部會的資訊的分享跟共享的這個程度、揭露的程度是幾乎都是沒有的這個會造成什麼問題呢?後續的追查流向嚴重的進度落後\n\n10\n00:03:34,145 --> 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