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00:01:07,361\n包括泰魯閣那你們現在要求改善的那個報告都已經做完了嗎?你說泰魯閣嗎?普悠瑪跟泰魯閣普悠瑪那個都結案阿都結案了對對對阿泰魯閣結案了沒?結案了結案了都結案了阿結案之後你們有提出\n\n4\n00:01:23,064 --> 00:01:34,188\n有關台鐵的太魯閣案目前給的改善建議其中只剩一項那台鐵還沒有完成那其他的部分台鐵都已經完成所以就是說你今天發生事故的原因\n\n5\n00:01:48,188 --> 00:01:53,959\n然後你們經過提出的改善的要求他們也都改善了現在剩下一點\n\n6\n00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:22,970\n報告委員是的還有哪一點沒改善目前是有關於這個沿線偵測這一個義務入侵偵測告警的這個系統部分那台鐵局目前正在施作當中所以我們確定他在沿線的評估要裝設義務入侵告警系統完成之後那這個案子就會結案什麼時候會完成你知道嗎目前台鐵規劃是在今年的年底那目前是他提出來的這個計畫今年年底好\n\n7\n00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:39,066\n那我們從邏輯來思考就是說以前發生過的問題跟你們提出要求改善的問題未來這些問題都已經被排除掉了不會再有重複的原因再發生問題對不對\n\n8\n00:02:42,256 --> 00:03:09,933\n這一點就是未來有其他在沒有發生過的問題發生不可控或不知道那他們要去先做研究預防再次的發生那除了這個比較特別的像現在已經發生過的類似的案件以後我們要要求不再發生\n\n9\n00:03:14,266 --> 00:03:30,005\n所以從你們的專業的角度去看他們改善的進度你們也要去確認就是他確實有沒有要完成你們的要求我想這個是最重要的就是這叫做防範未然\n\n10\n00:03:31,138 --> 00:03:32,699\n我再請教一下就是說現在捷運也有很多的狀況對不對\n\n11\n00:04:01,601 --> 00:04:25,100\n那捷運像之前臺中是吊備事件那或者是說臺灣機場捷運那個是稀嫌鋼條那邊有東西掉落所以你們在軌道上面或者是軌道上方有任何的異物現在你們都可以偵測得到嗎?他們都可以偵測得到嗎?\n\n12\n00:04:28,592 --> 00:04:29,052\n那要怎麼改善?\n\n13\n00:04:41,377 --> 00:04:43,138\n所以就在軌道上的是可以偵測到嗎對不對在軌道上方現在還不行在軌道上的\n\n14\n00:05:06,616 --> 00:05:23,161\n現在是可以偵測得到?掉進軌道裡面的東西是有可以藉由這個他現在的醫務偵測系統去偵測到。好那你們提出改善建立裡面有沒有包括就是說你只要偵測到他可以自動停止?\n\n15\n00:05:26,594 --> 00:05:27,435\n所以現在在軌道上只要偵測到\n\n16\n00:05:53,851 --> 00:06:02,876\n他就可以自動停止是不是必須要列車就是撞擊到這個EU他才有辦法停止撞擊撞擊都已經翻車了撞擊諸位這樣子回答你滿意嗎因為軌道系統因為我們是調查單位我們不是他的目的是這款機關我們的建議希望他說譬如說剛剛講台鐵的部分\n\n17\n00:06:22,193 --> 00:06:50,371\n他要備預算他要當然當然這個我的意思就是說因為他是目的社會職業資管機關他要負責安全這個是必要的他的工作那我的意思就是說運安運安就是從你們以前早期的觀念是事後調查嘛那事後調查就提出改善建立嘛改善建立就要去看改善進度嘛\n\n18\n00:06:51,813 --> 00:07:12,650\n改善的完成以後才不會再次的發生嘛所以這叫防範未然嘛那你們的改善建議要很具體他們要做的才能具體那我們未來才不會有相同的事情類似的案件再次的發生危險這樣你們可以接受嗎可以\n\n19\n00:07:13,547 --> 00:07:15,408\n我現在就是我們很清楚給運安會一個\n\n20\n00:07:38,541 --> 00:07:39,041\n事故發生再調查就完蛋了\n\n21\n00:08:09,455 --> 00:08:11,857\n改善建議就是為了防範未然改善建議要追蹤進度到完成\n\n22\n00:08:34,531 --> 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我的意思是這個改善建立提出來之後不是就沒事了你要追蹤進度到完成這沒問題啊我們因為我們常常行政院定期會開會我們會跟他報那我的意思就是說以前面已經發生過事故的原因你們發現之後改善建立之後進度完成之後相同的原因就不應該再發生再一次的悲劇嘛對不對應該是這樣子那你們要把這個職責擔下來\n544294\t569395\t因為他在我們的改善信息之後,他的記錄列出來說我會...我知道你的意思,你都不跟你說一句話說OK就好了。習委員講的要你建議他們改進了,你們要去追蹤有沒有做,他主要是這樣。對啊,你就追蹤他有做你就完成,他沒做你要繼續追蹤嘛。你繼續追蹤他都不做,你要讓我們知道嘛,我們繼續追蹤該單位嘛。繼續追蹤到他改善為止,對。\n572077\t573058\t謝謝許智傑委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席,我們請主委主委,我們運安會重點是事後調查對不對?那防範未然呢?防範未然這是不是運安會的工作?是喔是喔\n所以其實運輸安全調查委員會應該是當所有的運輸單位的顧問嘛對不對也就是所有運輸單位他可能發生什麼問題或者是他已經發生什麼問題所以剛才昆哲委員也有提到就是說以前你們要求要改善的現在改善了沒比如說你們包括普悠瑪\n包括泰魯閣那你們現在要求改善的那個報告都已經做完了嗎?你說泰魯閣嗎?普悠瑪跟泰魯閣普悠瑪那個都結案阿都結案了對對對阿泰魯閣結案了沒?結案了結案了都結案了阿結案之後你們有提出\n有關台鐵的太魯閣案目前給的改善建議其中只剩一項那台鐵還沒有完成那其他的部分台鐵都已經完成所以就是說你今天發生事故的原因\n然後你們經過提出的改善的要求他們也都改善了現在剩下一點\n報告委員是的還有哪一點沒改善目前是有關於這個沿線偵測這一個義務入侵偵測告警的這個系統部分那台鐵局目前正在施作當中所以我們確定他在沿線的評估要裝設義務入侵告警系統完成之後那這個案子就會結案什麼時候會完成你知道嗎目前台鐵規劃是在今年的年底那目前是他提出來的這個計畫今年年底好\n那我們從邏輯來思考就是說以前發生過的問題跟你們提出要求改善的問題未來這些問題都已經被排除掉了不會再有重複的原因再發生問題對不對\n這一點就是未來有其他在沒有發生過的問題發生不可控或不知道那他們要去先做研究預防再次的發生那除了這個比較特別的像現在已經發生過的類似的案件以後我們要要求不再發生\n所以從你們的專業的角度去看他們改善的進度你們也要去確認就是他確實有沒有要完成你們的要求我想這個是最重要的就是這叫做防範未然\n我再請教一下就是說現在捷運也有很多的狀況對不對\n那捷運像之前臺中是吊備事件那或者是說臺灣機場捷運那個是稀嫌鋼條那邊有東西掉落所以你們在軌道上面或者是軌道上方有任何的異物現在你們都可以偵測得到嗎?他們都可以偵測得到嗎?\n那要怎麼改善?\n所以就在軌道上的是可以偵測到嗎對不對在軌道上方現在還不行在軌道上的\n現在是可以偵測得到?掉進軌道裡面的東西是有可以藉由這個他現在的醫務偵測系統去偵測到。好那你們提出改善建立裡面有沒有包括就是說你只要偵測到他可以自動停止?\n所以現在在軌道上只要偵測到\n他就可以自動停止是不是必須要列車就是撞擊到這個EU他才有辦法停止撞擊撞擊都已經翻車了撞擊諸位這樣子回答你滿意嗎因為軌道系統因為我們是調查單位我們不是他的目的是這款機關我們的建議希望他說譬如說剛剛講台鐵的部分\n他要備預算他要當然當然這個我的意思就是說因為他是目的社會職業資管機關他要負責安全這個是必要的他的工作那我的意思就是說運安運安就是從你們以前早期的觀念是事後調查嘛那事後調查就提出改善建立嘛改善建立就要去看改善進度嘛\n改善的完成以後才不會再次的發生嘛所以這叫防範未然嘛那你們的改善建議要很具體他們要做的才能具體那我們未來才不會有相同的事情類似的案件再次的發生危險這樣你們可以接受嗎可以\n我現在就是我們很清楚給運安會一個\n事故發生再調查就完蛋了\n改善建議就是為了防範未然改善建議要追蹤進度到完成\n好不好 我的意思是這個改善建立提出來之後不是就沒事了你要追蹤進度到完成這沒問題啊我們因為我們常常行政院定期會開會我們會跟他報那我的意思就是說以前面已經發生過事故的原因你們發現之後改善建立之後進度完成之後相同的原因就不應該再發生再一次的悲劇嘛對不對應該是這樣子那你們要把這個職責擔下來\n因為他在我們的改善信息之後,他的記錄列出來說我會...我知道你的意思,你都不跟你說一句話說OK就好了。習委員講的要你建議他們改進了,你們要去追蹤有沒有做,他主要是這樣。對啊,你就追蹤他有做你就完成,他沒做你要繼續追蹤嘛。你繼續追蹤他都不做,你要讓我們知道嘛,我們繼續追蹤該單位嘛。繼續追蹤到他改善為止,對。\n謝謝許智傑委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.081 --> 00:25.871\n謝謝主席,我們請主委主委,我們運安會重點是事後調查對不對?那防範未然呢?防範未然這是不是運安會的工作?是喔是喔\n\n00:31.005 --> 00:58.765\n所以其實運輸安全調查委員會應該是當所有的運輸單位的顧問嘛對不對也就是所有運輸單位他可能發生什麼問題或者是他已經發生什麼問題所以剛才昆哲委員也有提到就是說以前你們要求要改善的現在改善了沒比如說你們包括普悠瑪\n\n01:00.438 --> 01:07.361\n包括泰魯閣那你們現在要求改善的那個報告都已經做完了嗎?你說泰魯閣嗎?普悠瑪跟泰魯閣普悠瑪那個都結案阿都結案了對對對阿泰魯閣結案了沒?結案了結案了都結案了阿結案之後你們有提出\n\n01:23.064 --> 01:34.188\n有關台鐵的太魯閣案目前給的改善建議其中只剩一項那台鐵還沒有完成那其他的部分台鐵都已經完成所以就是說你今天發生事故的原因\n\n01:48.188 --> 01:53.959\n然後你們經過提出的改善的要求他們也都改善了現在剩下一點\n\n01:55.760 --> 02:22.970\n報告委員是的還有哪一點沒改善目前是有關於這個沿線偵測這一個義務入侵偵測告警的這個系統部分那台鐵局目前正在施作當中所以我們確定他在沿線的評估要裝設義務入侵告警系統完成之後那這個案子就會結案什麼時候會完成你知道嗎目前台鐵規劃是在今年的年底那目前是他提出來的這個計畫今年年底好\n\n02:23.840 --> 02:39.066\n那我們從邏輯來思考就是說以前發生過的問題跟你們提出要求改善的問題未來這些問題都已經被排除掉了不會再有重複的原因再發生問題對不對\n\n02:42.256 --> 03:09.933\n這一點就是未來有其他在沒有發生過的問題發生不可控或不知道那他們要去先做研究預防再次的發生那除了這個比較特別的像現在已經發生過的類似的案件以後我們要要求不再發生\n\n03:14.266 --> 03:30.005\n所以從你們的專業的角度去看他們改善的進度你們也要去確認就是他確實有沒有要完成你們的要求我想這個是最重要的就是這叫做防範未然\n\n03:31.138 --> 03:32.699\n我再請教一下就是說現在捷運也有很多的狀況對不對\n\n04:01.601 --> 04:25.100\n那捷運像之前臺中是吊備事件那或者是說臺灣機場捷運那個是稀嫌鋼條那邊有東西掉落所以你們在軌道上面或者是軌道上方有任何的異物現在你們都可以偵測得到嗎?他們都可以偵測得到嗎?\n\n04:28.592 --> 04:29.052\n那要怎麼改善?\n\n04:41.377 --> 04:43.138\n所以就在軌道上的是可以偵測到嗎對不對在軌道上方現在還不行在軌道上的\n\n05:06.616 --> 05:23.161\n現在是可以偵測得到?掉進軌道裡面的東西是有可以藉由這個他現在的醫務偵測系統去偵測到。好那你們提出改善建立裡面有沒有包括就是說你只要偵測到他可以自動停止?\n\n05:26.594 --> 05:27.435\n所以現在在軌道上只要偵測到\n\n05:53.851 --> 06:02.876\n他就可以自動停止是不是必須要列車就是撞擊到這個EU他才有辦法停止撞擊撞擊都已經翻車了撞擊諸位這樣子回答你滿意嗎因為軌道系統因為我們是調查單位我們不是他的目的是這款機關我們的建議希望他說譬如說剛剛講台鐵的部分\n\n06:22.193 --> 06:50.371\n他要備預算他要當然當然這個我的意思就是說因為他是目的社會職業資管機關他要負責安全這個是必要的他的工作那我的意思就是說運安運安就是從你們以前早期的觀念是事後調查嘛那事後調查就提出改善建立嘛改善建立就要去看改善進度嘛\n\n06:51.813 --> 07:12.650\n改善的完成以後才不會再次的發生嘛所以這叫防範未然嘛那你們的改善建議要很具體他們要做的才能具體那我們未來才不會有相同的事情類似的案件再次的發生危險這樣你們可以接受嗎可以\n\n07:13.547 --> 07:15.408\n我現在就是我們很清楚給運安會一個\n\n07:38.541 --> 07:39.041\n事故發生再調查就完蛋了\n\n08:09.455 --> 08:11.857\n改善建議就是為了防範未然改善建議要追蹤進度到完成\n\n08:34.531 --> 09:00.938\n好不好我的意思是這個改善建立提出來之後不是就沒事了你要追蹤進度到完成這沒問題啊我們因為我們常常行政院定期會開會我們會跟他報那我的意思就是說以前面已經發生過事故的原因你們發現之後改善建立之後進度完成之後相同的原因就不應該再發生再一次的悲劇嘛對不對應該是這樣子那你們要把這個職責擔下來\n\n09:04.294 --> 09:29.395\n因為他在我們的改善信息之後,他的記錄列出來說我會...我知道你的意思,你都不跟你說一句話說OK就好了。習委員講的要你建議他們改進了,你們要去追蹤有沒有做,他主要是這樣。對啊,你就追蹤他有做你就完成,他沒做你要繼續追蹤嘛。你繼續追蹤他都不做,你要讓我們知道嘛,我們繼續追蹤該單位嘛。繼續追蹤到他改善為止,對。\n\n09:32.077 --> 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