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00:00:31,854\n主委早主委早我想運安會的前身是那一份調查委員會對啦是對那針對我們這幾天這個有一個比較敏感的一個事件就是中國啟用M53東向W122、W123這個銜接航線的部分那因為我們民航局這邊認為\n\n3\n00:00:33,456 --> 00:00:45,234\n這個對我們金門、馬祖的這個區域航線跟所謂的飛航管制會有所謂的複雜度增加的一個危機那針對這部分我們民航運安會是不是有掌握相關的狀況\n\n4\n00:00:47,210 --> 00:00:55,455\n主委這個本席當然也知道是民航局的優但是就所謂的一個安全性的考量難道我們運安會沒有責任嗎?\n\n5\n00:01:14,955 --> 00:01:41,474\n我們還不能講有責任但是我們會會會會會monitor他對像陳如剛剛我們許智傑委員然後一直要求我們運安會要做一些的一些處理一樣嗎這個我想政府是一體的啊等這個所謂的有飛行安全考量的部分運安會應該是責無旁貸的我想運安會的功能不是只有調查事故也應該要有預防事故的功能這點主委認同嗎認同認同\n\n6\n00:01:49,417 --> 00:02:08,422\n另外請教主委根據本期調閱相關的資料就是我們臺灣一年的交通事故這6年大概成長了10萬件但是這個我們運安會的能量這幾年大概都維持一年一兩百件而已這個數字會不會太少\n\n7\n00:02:10,376 --> 00:02:34,146\n從另外一個角度來講是不是表示我們運安會的調查改善建議有成效所以事故比較少所以看一體的兩面主委好像都自我感覺良好也行不是不是這個這個通報是來說我們會做分析啦但是有的有的屬於像很多台剛有委員講說像台鐵的一些事故有些通報真的是虛驚事件\n\n8\n00:02:35,666 --> 00:03:03,524\n對,但是我們還是要掌握,因為畢竟我們現在的功能已經不是只有所謂的航空嘛,我們包含所謂的水路、鐵路、公路,都是在我們的一個管理的範圍裡面。那從110年到112年,最少都有100多間、200多間的重大交通事故啊,數量不能說不少啊。這邊這部分,難道運安會沒有責任嗎?我們的自願幫助系統本身也要發揮功能啊,確實。\n\n9\n00:03:06,544 --> 00:03:07,224\n主委有什麼看法?\n\n10\n00:03:28,991 --> 00:03:42,062\n我們這三年只有針對一個貨運業的安全管理機制做過一個所謂的議題研究這三年就只有做這件事情其他沒有針對其他的所謂的一個交通類別還有我請應當組的組長來報告一下\n\n11\n00:03:48,426 --> 00:04:05,977\n委員你好有關這個重大關注議題是在109年的時候那時候是我們想要仿效這個國外美國的做法所以嘗試發佈這樣的一個機制那這幾年來我慢慢把它變成再加上委員會的督促下我們把它制度化了像我們從今年開始的發佈的\n\n12\n00:04:07,738 --> 00:04:08,058\n徐富癸\n\n13\n00:04:37,763 --> 00:05:06,094\n這個部分就是我們依據我們發布的感恩建議我們去中整歸納的一個比較值得關注的這個議題那這個部分我們會跟著我們感恩建議發布之後的追蹤機制感恩建議發布之後這些感恩建議每半年我們都會追蹤列管一次好這本席要求一定要做尤其像我們這個有漁工的這個很多的一個漁港的一個地方這也是事故頻傳這請列為一個重要的一個議案好不好\n\n14\n00:05:06,434 --> 00:05:22,954\n沒有錯,我們也會朝這個方向來做,謝謝另外我想我們在業務報告裡面有看到所謂一個新型的一個運具事故的調查跟國際交流但是業務報告裡面沒有看到相關的內容,這部分有進度嗎?這個我請工程組,因為這個比較會專業,我請工程組的李長和李組長來報告一下\n\n15\n00:05:38,052 --> 00:05:53,171\n報告委員我們的科技計畫總統有三大類別那第一個類別就是有關於新徐運具的調查技術跟國際交流那這兩項主要是我們的調查業務包含了運輸事故調查工程能量以及那個進進運輸事故調查人員的能量\n\n16\n00:05:55,486 --> 00:06:24,404\n好那我想現在媒體一直在報導我們年底有可能我們的國家火箭的發射廠會落腳在屏東我想我們的國情委員是屏東人也很關心這個議題那未來我們臺灣的衛星的數量只會越來越多但是去年底我們主委回應太空事故調查的能量只有從空運組調來兩個人要處理這個事情這國際的事件這敢有救人力是不是可以增加\n\n17\n00:06:25,926 --> 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