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\"end\": 648.562, \"score\": 0.5}, {\"word\": \"拜\", \"start\": 648.562, \"end\": 648.723, \"score\": 0.874}, {\"word\": \"託\"}, {\"word\": \"你\", \"start\": 648.723, \"end\": 648.743, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"。\"}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,249 --> 00:00:20,936\n主委早安主委主委如果說我們做的事都是對的事情應該會聽到大家的民眾的掌聲跟鼓勵那我們如果沒有聽到大家的掌聲跟鼓勵代表他裡面充滿了這個爭議跟衝突\n\n2\n00:00:23,837 --> 00:00:25,718\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。\n\n3\n00:00:48,035 --> 00:01:03,562\n則是依照這個黨產條例來看,它跟促轉會不一樣,因為這個條例裡面沒有漏入條款。所以,它的質評到什麼時候,現在要說,就要注意。那我想要請教主委,主委促轉會是任務型的組織,還是常設組織?委員是說促轉會嗎?\n\n4\n00:01:10,538 --> 00:01:21,765\n黨產不當黨產委員會我們黨產是一個任務型的組織你如果要不然什麼時候做條款所以你認為是一個這個是立法院立法所以所以主委認為他是一個任務型的組織嘛對不對是\n\n5\n00:01:23,740 --> 00:01:43,975\n那依據我們當然條例第二條第一項來看,黨產會跟促轉會都屬任務型的組織。那所以既然是任務型的組織,除了你跟其他的委員都是在8月31號就職,所以任期是應該到今年的9月1號結束嘛對不對?對,8月底。阿這邊任務結束了,黨產會可以繼續嗎?\n\n6\n00:01:46,477 --> 00:02:07,316\n現在看怎麼看任務有沒有結束那標準是什麼現在我們的處分的案件絕大多數都還在法院訴訟當中最近今年1月跟3月各有一件判決確定這個我們都贏了一個是中投公司跟信義台公司剛才有幾位委員都有關心到這100多億的資產\n\n7\n00:02:10,299 --> 00:02:15,522\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度\n\n8\n00:02:39,275 --> 00:02:53,386\n高等行政法院支持都沒有辦法結案這個我想媒體也都很關心我們也希望我們也很期待能夠趕快把這個希望趕快讓公民政業真的落實不過本席覺得應該也是取決未來總統的意志要不要結束了\n\n9\n00:02:54,369 --> 00:03:15,363\n那我想這個充滿爭議性的話題就連我們大法官司之在793號的意見書就指出我們黨產會的主任委員與跟我們促轉會的主任委員都是屬於特任這個外觀上吉隆一篇誤解為是黨產亦或行政院所屬的二級獨立機關那促轉會\n\n10\n00:03:17,084 --> 00:03:33,534\n訴專委員會委員是由行政院長提名,立法院同意。黨產委員會是由行政院長派任。這是大法官所說的。所以這兩個立法的體制跟人民的模式是不太一致的。\n\n11\n00:03:35,157 --> 00:03:49,284\n如果依照大法官的這樣同意書的解釋來講請教主委你是不是贊成未來我們黨產會如果要延續的話應該要先修法任命的權限跟促轉會一樣都是由立法院來進行同意我想這個尊重立法院的決定吧謝謝主委\n\n12\n00:03:51,911 --> 00:04:10,190\n早上我們其他委員也提到就是黨產會不是只要追黨產我們張宏祿委員也提到青山的這個案子我們追來之後應該好好的維護管理嘛因為這個會對社會現象有不好的印象啦你說你給那個黨產會員的管理放在那旁邊這是對黨產會員是不好的事情\n\n13\n00:04:10,931 --> 00:04:37,549\n所以在這邊本市要求身為追爭財產的單位不能追了就不管你也要有個正常意見這間站在哪裡我們不是去貼封條而已啦我相信這是為了要維護一個社會的正義跟公平但是你也要盡管理的責任不要回放了什麼就不管委員這一點我可以說明一下嗎你看這些照片沒有啦剛剛張文綠有表達了其實本市要表達的情況都一樣啦\n\n14\n00:04:38,309 --> 00:04:41,154\n處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關\n\n15\n00:04:53,056 --> 00:05:09,256\n這是以前救火團最大的一個活動消息捏就以金山這個垃圾來說齁其實救火團在要搬走的時候跟我們申請垃圾處理費用我們很快就准他了結果他沒有去處理結果變成拍一張照片謝謝主委主委本席是提醒你的齁\n\n16\n00:05:10,171 --> 00:05:36,013\n那另外最後一個我要請教主委就是說去年9月10月的時候教育部有發函要求各縣市政府要嚴守教育及行政中立不得動用行政資源支持或反對特定的政黨但是本席受到全國教育產業總共會的一個陳情說各位看到這個案子齁立法院我想這個公文看到的東西啊\n\n17\n00:05:39,898 --> 00:06:05,532\n各位,立法院給你們的權利跟義務不包含去學校進行任何的活動特別是針對有特定性的組織的政黨那本席要求任期不到5個月的時間在中間我要請你記得明文規定什麼可以做就去做什麼不能做就不要做新的國會不是你們想要做什麼就可以\n\n18\n00:06:06,673 --> 00:06:17,585\n謝謝主委我們剛才的說明裡面其實都有提到這個部分我們按照教育部的轉型正義行動綱領我們在配合在好謝謝主委主席再給我一點時間要不要好我想要請教一下我們秘書長\n\n19\n00:06:30,485 --> 00:06:55,241\n委員好秘書長好秘書長首先恭喜秘書長接下來未來要往新的領域來繼續為我們國民來服務那特別是接下來要去的單位跟我們花東息息相關就是我們交通的事情那在去之前我想要請秘書長有兩件事情要拜託秘書長一個就是我們的員警的問題我們剛才提到打詐國家隊打詐國家隊其實第一線人員是我們的員警\n\n20\n00:06:58,303 --> 00:06:59,624\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n\n21\n00:07:23,755 --> 00:07:51,952\n今年我們在這10年來的警察自殺率越來越增高總共有52名警察來自殺那近4年也有22名我想這個工作量會影響到原警整個執行的心態那我們在2023年9月我們提出一個警察修正版的執行新的制度就是我們每個月超勤扶勤不得超過80個小時但是秘書長本期要提醒秘書長警察的工作是責任制\n\n22\n00:07:52,492 --> 00:07:55,655\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n\n23\n00:08:11,952 --> 00:08:14,734\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告\n\n24\n00:08:31,585 --> 00:08:35,967\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案\n\n25\n00:08:54,317 --> 00:09:18,445\n關關的部分是臺東很重要的一個經濟的命脈那我想在這幾年整個入客減少來臺灣的情況之下對關關業者衝擊很大加上我們4月3號的這個大地震無疑是雪上加霜我相信有很多很多的問題等著新的我們的部長來解決那也希望部長能夠多發一些心思那本期這邊如果有任何的\n\n26\n00:09:19,345 --> 00:09:42,125\n問題也會即刻跟部長來反映也希望部長能夠來協助我們花東這邊的觀光業者還有我們交通的問題我是不是簡單跟委員報告一下就是第一個花東的交通我想目前馬上就包括蘇花安如果馬上現在要還品馬上如果通過就可以來動工那如果完成他就可以跟國道5\n\n27\n00:09:42,825 --> 00:10:02,898\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。Minne4、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。Minne5、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。Minne6、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案。Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報\n\n28\n00:10:08,382 --> 00:10:10,063\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n\n29\n00:10:46,340 --> 00:10:48,743\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。厲輸長,黃正兵委員,台東的事情要拜託你。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n249\t20936\t主委早安主委主委如果說我們做的事都是對的事情應該會聽到大家的民眾的掌聲跟鼓勵那我們如果沒有聽到大家的掌聲跟鼓勵代表他裡面充滿了這個爭議跟衝突\n23837\t25718\t三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。\n48035\t63562\t則是依照這個黨產條例來看,它跟促轉會不一樣,因為這個條例裡面沒有漏入條款。所以,它的質評到什麼時候,現在要說,就要注意。那我想要請教主委,主委促轉會是任務型的組織,還是常設組織?委員是說促轉會嗎?\n70538\t81765\t黨產不當黨產委員會我們黨產是一個任務型的組織你如果要不然什麼時候做條款所以你認為是一個這個是立法院立法所以所以主委認為他是一個任務型的組織嘛對不對是\n83740\t103975\t那依據我們當然條例第二條第一項來看,黨產會跟促轉會都屬任務型的組織。那所以既然是任務型的組織,除了你跟其他的委員都是在8月31號就職,所以任期是應該到今年的9月1號結束嘛對不對?對,8月底。阿這邊任務結束了,黨產會可以繼續嗎?\n106477\t127316\t現在看怎麼看任務有沒有結束那標準是什麼現在我們的處分的案件絕大多數都還在法院訴訟當中最近今年1月跟3月各有一件判決確定這個我們都贏了一個是中投公司跟信義台公司剛才有幾位委員都有關心到這100多億的資產\n130299\t135522\t二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度\n159275\t173386\t高等行政法院支持都沒有辦法結案這個我想媒體也都很關心我們也希望我們也很期待能夠趕快把這個希望趕快讓公民政業真的落實不過本席覺得應該也是取決未來總統的意志要不要結束了\n174369\t195363\t那我想這個充滿爭議性的話題就連我們大法官司之在793號的意見書就指出我們黨產會的主任委員與跟我們促轉會的主任委員都是屬於特任這個外觀上吉隆一篇誤解為是黨產亦或行政院所屬的二級獨立機關那促轉會\n197084\t213534\t訴專委員會委員是由行政院長提名,立法院同意。黨產委員會是由行政院長派任。這是大法官所說的。所以這兩個立法的體制跟人民的模式是不太一致的。\n215157\t229284\t如果依照大法官的這樣同意書的解釋來講請教主委你是不是贊成未來我們黨產會如果要延續的話應該要先修法任命的權限跟促轉會一樣都是由立法院來進行同意我想這個尊重立法院的決定吧謝謝主委\n231911\t250190\t早上我們其他委員也提到就是黨產會不是只要追黨產我們張宏祿委員也提到青山的這個案子我們追來之後應該好好的維護管理嘛因為這個會對社會現象有不好的印象啦你說你給那個黨產會員的管理放在那旁邊這是對黨產會員是不好的事情\n250931\t277549\t所以在這邊本市要求身為追爭財產的單位不能追了就不管你也要有個正常意見這間站在哪裡我們不是去貼封條而已啦我相信這是為了要維護一個社會的正義跟公平但是你也要盡管理的責任不要回放了什麼就不管委員這一點我可以說明一下嗎你看這些照片沒有啦剛剛張文綠有表達了其實本市要表達的情況都一樣啦\n278309\t281154\t處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關\n293056\t309256\t這是以前救火團最大的一個活動消息捏就以金山這個垃圾來說齁其實救火團在要搬走的時候跟我們申請垃圾處理費用我們很快就准他了結果他沒有去處理結果變成拍一張照片謝謝主委主委本席是提醒你的齁\n310171\t336013\t那另外最後一個我要請教主委就是說去年9月10月的時候教育部有發函要求各縣市政府要嚴守教育及行政中立不得動用行政資源支持或反對特定的政黨但是本席受到全國教育產業總共會的一個陳情說各位看到這個案子齁立法院我想這個公文看到的東西啊\n339898\t365532\t各位,立法院給你們的權利跟義務不包含去學校進行任何的活動特別是針對有特定性的組織的政黨那本席要求任期不到5個月的時間在中間我要請你記得明文規定什麼可以做就去做什麼不能做就不要做新的國會不是你們想要做什麼就可以\n366673\t377585\t謝謝主委我們剛才的說明裡面其實都有提到這個部分我們按照教育部的轉型正義行動綱領我們在配合在好謝謝主委主席再給我一點時間要不要好我想要請教一下我們秘書長\n390485\t415241\t委員好 秘書長好秘書長首先恭喜秘書長接下來未來要往新的領域來繼續為我們國民來服務那特別是接下來要去的單位跟我們花東息息相關就是我們交通的事情那在去之前我想要請秘書長有兩件事情要拜託秘書長一個就是我們的員警的問題我們剛才提到打詐國家隊打詐國家隊其實第一線人員是我們的員警\n418303\t419624\t二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n443755\t471952\t今年我們在這10年來的警察自殺率越來越增高總共有52名警察來自殺那近4年也有22名我想這個工作量會影響到原警整個執行的心態那我們在2023年9月我們提出一個警察修正版的執行新的制度就是我們每個月超勤扶勤不得超過80個小時但是秘書長本期要提醒秘書長警察的工作是責任制\n472492\t475655\t二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n491952\t494734\t二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告\n511585\t515967\t三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案\n534317\t558445\t關關的部分是臺東很重要的一個經濟的命脈那我想在這幾年整個入客減少來臺灣的情況之下對關關業者衝擊很大加上我們4月3號的這個大地震無疑是雪上加霜我相信有很多很多的問題等著新的我們的部長來解決那也希望部長能夠多發一些心思那本期這邊如果有任何的\n559345\t582125\t問題也會即刻跟部長來反映也希望部長能夠來協助我們花東這邊的觀光業者還有我們交通的問題我是不是簡單跟委員報告一下就是第一個花東的交通我想目前馬上就包括蘇花安如果馬上現在要還品馬上如果通過就可以來動工那如果完成他就可以跟國道5\n582825\t602898\t三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne4、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne5、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne6、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報\n608382\t610063\t二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n628848\t646340\t議員議員議員\n646340\t648743\t二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。厲輸長,黃正兵委員,台東的事情要拜託你。\n","txt":"主委早安主委主委如果說我們做的事都是對的事情應該會聽到大家的民眾的掌聲跟鼓勵那我們如果沒有聽到大家的掌聲跟鼓勵代表他裡面充滿了這個爭議跟衝突\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。\n則是依照這個黨產條例來看,它跟促轉會不一樣,因為這個條例裡面沒有漏入條款。所以,它的質評到什麼時候,現在要說,就要注意。那我想要請教主委,主委促轉會是任務型的組織,還是常設組織?委員是說促轉會嗎?\n黨產不當黨產委員會我們黨產是一個任務型的組織你如果要不然什麼時候做條款所以你認為是一個這個是立法院立法所以所以主委認為他是一個任務型的組織嘛對不對是\n那依據我們當然條例第二條第一項來看,黨產會跟促轉會都屬任務型的組織。那所以既然是任務型的組織,除了你跟其他的委員都是在8月31號就職,所以任期是應該到今年的9月1號結束嘛對不對?對,8月底。阿這邊任務結束了,黨產會可以繼續嗎?\n現在看怎麼看任務有沒有結束那標準是什麼現在我們的處分的案件絕大多數都還在法院訴訟當中最近今年1月跟3月各有一件判決確定這個我們都贏了一個是中投公司跟信義台公司剛才有幾位委員都有關心到這100多億的資產\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度\n高等行政法院支持都沒有辦法結案這個我想媒體也都很關心我們也希望我們也很期待能夠趕快把這個希望趕快讓公民政業真的落實不過本席覺得應該也是取決未來總統的意志要不要結束了\n那我想這個充滿爭議性的話題就連我們大法官司之在793號的意見書就指出我們黨產會的主任委員與跟我們促轉會的主任委員都是屬於特任這個外觀上吉隆一篇誤解為是黨產亦或行政院所屬的二級獨立機關那促轉會\n訴專委員會委員是由行政院長提名,立法院同意。黨產委員會是由行政院長派任。這是大法官所說的。所以這兩個立法的體制跟人民的模式是不太一致的。\n如果依照大法官的這樣同意書的解釋來講請教主委你是不是贊成未來我們黨產會如果要延續的話應該要先修法任命的權限跟促轉會一樣都是由立法院來進行同意我想這個尊重立法院的決定吧謝謝主委\n早上我們其他委員也提到就是黨產會不是只要追黨產我們張宏祿委員也提到青山的這個案子我們追來之後應該好好的維護管理嘛因為這個會對社會現象有不好的印象啦你說你給那個黨產會員的管理放在那旁邊這是對黨產會員是不好的事情\n所以在這邊本市要求身為追爭財產的單位不能追了就不管你也要有個正常意見這間站在哪裡我們不是去貼封條而已啦我相信這是為了要維護一個社會的正義跟公平但是你也要盡管理的責任不要回放了什麼就不管委員這一點我可以說明一下嗎你看這些照片沒有啦剛剛張文綠有表達了其實本市要表達的情況都一樣啦\n處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關\n這是以前救火團最大的一個活動消息捏就以金山這個垃圾來說齁其實救火團在要搬走的時候跟我們申請垃圾處理費用我們很快就准他了結果他沒有去處理結果變成拍一張照片謝謝主委主委本席是提醒你的齁\n那另外最後一個我要請教主委就是說去年9月10月的時候教育部有發函要求各縣市政府要嚴守教育及行政中立不得動用行政資源支持或反對特定的政黨但是本席受到全國教育產業總共會的一個陳情說各位看到這個案子齁立法院我想這個公文看到的東西啊\n各位,立法院給你們的權利跟義務不包含去學校進行任何的活動特別是針對有特定性的組織的政黨那本席要求任期不到5個月的時間在中間我要請你記得明文規定什麼可以做就去做什麼不能做就不要做新的國會不是你們想要做什麼就可以\n謝謝主委我們剛才的說明裡面其實都有提到這個部分我們按照教育部的轉型正義行動綱領我們在配合在好謝謝主委主席再給我一點時間要不要好我想要請教一下我們秘書長\n委員好 秘書長好秘書長首先恭喜秘書長接下來未來要往新的領域來繼續為我們國民來服務那特別是接下來要去的單位跟我們花東息息相關就是我們交通的事情那在去之前我想要請秘書長有兩件事情要拜託秘書長一個就是我們的員警的問題我們剛才提到打詐國家隊打詐國家隊其實第一線人員是我們的員警\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n今年我們在這10年來的警察自殺率越來越增高總共有52名警察來自殺那近4年也有22名我想這個工作量會影響到原警整個執行的心態那我們在2023年9月我們提出一個警察修正版的執行新的制度就是我們每個月超勤扶勤不得超過80個小時但是秘書長本期要提醒秘書長警察的工作是責任制\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案\n關關的部分是臺東很重要的一個經濟的命脈那我想在這幾年整個入客減少來臺灣的情況之下對關關業者衝擊很大加上我們4月3號的這個大地震無疑是雪上加霜我相信有很多很多的問題等著新的我們的部長來解決那也希望部長能夠多發一些心思那本期這邊如果有任何的\n問題也會即刻跟部長來反映也希望部長能夠來協助我們花東這邊的觀光業者還有我們交通的問題我是不是簡單跟委員報告一下就是第一個花東的交通我想目前馬上就包括蘇花安如果馬上現在要還品馬上如果通過就可以來動工那如果完成他就可以跟國道5\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne4、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。 Minne5、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne6、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案。 Minne7、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n議員議員議員\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。厲輸長,黃正兵委員,台東的事情要拜託你。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.249 --> 00:20.936\n主委早安主委主委如果說我們做的事都是對的事情應該會聽到大家的民眾的掌聲跟鼓勵那我們如果沒有聽到大家的掌聲跟鼓勵代表他裡面充滿了這個爭議跟衝突\n\n00:23.837 --> 00:25.718\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。\n\n00:48.035 --> 01:03.562\n則是依照這個黨產條例來看,它跟促轉會不一樣,因為這個條例裡面沒有漏入條款。所以,它的質評到什麼時候,現在要說,就要注意。那我想要請教主委,主委促轉會是任務型的組織,還是常設組織?委員是說促轉會嗎?\n\n01:10.538 --> 01:21.765\n黨產不當黨產委員會我們黨產是一個任務型的組織你如果要不然什麼時候做條款所以你認為是一個這個是立法院立法所以所以主委認為他是一個任務型的組織嘛對不對是\n\n01:23.740 --> 01:43.975\n那依據我們當然條例第二條第一項來看,黨產會跟促轉會都屬任務型的組織。那所以既然是任務型的組織,除了你跟其他的委員都是在8月31號就職,所以任期是應該到今年的9月1號結束嘛對不對?對,8月底。阿這邊任務結束了,黨產會可以繼續嗎?\n\n01:46.477 --> 02:07.316\n現在看怎麼看任務有沒有結束那標準是什麼現在我們的處分的案件絕大多數都還在法院訴訟當中最近今年1月跟3月各有一件判決確定這個我們都贏了一個是中投公司跟信義台公司剛才有幾位委員都有關心到這100多億的資產\n\n02:10.299 --> 02:15.522\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度\n\n02:39.275 --> 02:53.386\n高等行政法院支持都沒有辦法結案這個我想媒體也都很關心我們也希望我們也很期待能夠趕快把這個希望趕快讓公民政業真的落實不過本席覺得應該也是取決未來總統的意志要不要結束了\n\n02:54.369 --> 03:15.363\n那我想這個充滿爭議性的話題就連我們大法官司之在793號的意見書就指出我們黨產會的主任委員與跟我們促轉會的主任委員都是屬於特任這個外觀上吉隆一篇誤解為是黨產亦或行政院所屬的二級獨立機關那促轉會\n\n03:17.084 --> 03:33.534\n訴專委員會委員是由行政院長提名,立法院同意。黨產委員會是由行政院長派任。這是大法官所說的。所以這兩個立法的體制跟人民的模式是不太一致的。\n\n03:35.157 --> 03:49.284\n如果依照大法官的這樣同意書的解釋來講請教主委你是不是贊成未來我們黨產會如果要延續的話應該要先修法任命的權限跟促轉會一樣都是由立法院來進行同意我想這個尊重立法院的決定吧謝謝主委\n\n03:51.911 --> 04:10.190\n早上我們其他委員也提到就是黨產會不是只要追黨產我們張宏祿委員也提到青山的這個案子我們追來之後應該好好的維護管理嘛因為這個會對社會現象有不好的印象啦你說你給那個黨產會員的管理放在那旁邊這是對黨產會員是不好的事情\n\n04:10.931 --> 04:37.549\n所以在這邊本市要求身為追爭財產的單位不能追了就不管你也要有個正常意見這間站在哪裡我們不是去貼封條而已啦我相信這是為了要維護一個社會的正義跟公平但是你也要盡管理的責任不要回放了什麼就不管委員這一點我可以說明一下嗎你看這些照片沒有啦剛剛張文綠有表達了其實本市要表達的情況都一樣啦\n\n04:38.309 --> 04:41.154\n處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關\n\n04:53.056 --> 05:09.256\n這是以前救火團最大的一個活動消息捏就以金山這個垃圾來說齁其實救火團在要搬走的時候跟我們申請垃圾處理費用我們很快就准他了結果他沒有去處理結果變成拍一張照片謝謝主委主委本席是提醒你的齁\n\n05:10.171 --> 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