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00:03:27,498\n我認同涂元的建議這個應該是真的要跨部位對我希望說做一些研究是不是在這之前能夠提出一些因應的方法、一些改善措施希望能夠超前部署不要讓這些悲劇一再的發生涂元這個建議非常正面、非常好我認同\n\n9\n00:03:28,078 --> 00:03:53,534\n那針對噪音的部分其實我們知道噪音其實最大宗應該是車輛的噪音那從去年開始桃園市長張三正上來以後有推出一個淨桃專案因為桃園市針對這個車輛噪音這個民眾反映很多年反映給很多的單位都一直沒有辦法解決造成民眾很大的困擾後來我們發現推這個淨桃專案之後\n\n10\n00:03:56,936 --> 00:04:14,809\n從去年6月份開始他設了稽查點設了50處然後這整個陳情案件就明顯下降了14%那是不是我們環境部對這個淨桃專案有做一些瞭解是的我們環境部補助的桃園市有27部的\n\n11\n00:04:16,730 --> 00:04:35,887\n啊這個噪音的這個檢測的這個設備所以各位看到的這一部應該也是就是屬於這一類他就是科技執法嘛對不對對用科技執法的方式他前天齁所以事實上不管不管白天夜間事實上都可以那這個應該是有嚇阻的效果\n\n12\n00:04:36,347 --> 00:05:02,689\n對其實我們後來研究其實他這個淨濤專案他要歸功在這個聲音跟照相的科技執法因為以前稽查的困難度在於說他要配合警察局、環保局、監理站等各單位設這個臨檢點聯合稽查才有辦法取締所以造成他的難度很高後來發現這個聲音照相科技執法之後發現這個成效很好\n\n13\n00:05:05,091 --> 00:05:28,180\n那是不是針對這一部分我們環境部行政院好像針對這一部分好像有提出預算對不對是給涂權報告原本是從112到116編列這裡面講的1.9億購買306套那因為現在大家需求非常這個殷切我們已經把時間縮短到明年底就來完成這個請購的306套給地方政府\n\n14\n00:05:32,742 --> 00:05:49,207\n那未來事實上剛剛也很多委員非常贊成也非常支持我們所以我們希望說115接下來再有一個三年或四年計畫來加速購買更多的這個設備因為的確現在噪音造成大家在生活\n\n15\n00:05:51,890 --> 00:06:07,068\n對,因為剛剛我們有聽到王毓民委員提出說這個306套好像單就臺中市好像就拿走了50套所以是不是針對這個預算的部分他們的申請,臺中市申請嘛,他申請沒有核准\n\n16\n00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:36,505\n其實重點在於說大家都覺得這個科技執法這個部分成效非常好所以各縣市都希望能夠增加這個科技執法的設備來嚇阻這個車輛所造成的噪音的問題那所以涂權這一塊希望針對這一塊的預算我相信很多委員都會支持那也希望說能夠把我們這個車輛的噪音做一個很好的改善\n\n17\n00:06:37,245 --> 00:06:59,806\n我們會積極來努力爭取更多預算來投入到噪音的這個科技執法好那其實除了車輛噪音之外像我們桃園市飛機所影響這個交通噪音因為桃園市有我們全台灣最大的國際機場那所以它的航空噪音也是全國最嚴重的地方\n\n18\n00:07:00,306 --> 00:07:00,506\n因為這個民航的部分齁\n\n19\n00:07:29,008 --> 00:07:29,028\n好﹗\n\n20\n00:07:42,956 --> 00:08:00,453\n我們報告我今天是我這邊是公共運輸室是針對車輛的部分、航空的部分好沒關係那針對我們環境部我們噪音防治法規定它這個防治區兩年就要檢討一次可是2021年已經檢討一次正常2023年就要檢討那是不是2024年我們有這個規劃嗎\n\n21\n00:08:06,338 --> 00:08:21,275\n我覺得我們應該是定期要來檢討,看看有哪些地方不足。當然委員只要有更好的一些建議或想法,像桃園它是屬於航空城,所以的確有一個特殊的需要。\n\n22\n00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:49,133\n因為之前當然可能疫情的關係啦那現在慢慢疫情已經趨緩那從之前飛機的架次又從22.5萬現在又恢復到31萬可是它全盛時期是52萬我們現在認為第三跑道再增設下去我們這飛機的架次一定會更多是不是針對這個噪音防制有可能會擴大影響到更多的民眾所以\n\n23\n00:08:50,715 --> 00:09:07,755\n針對這個噪音防制希望能夠再重新檢討讓我們的民眾能夠分配到他應該有的噪音防制回饋金那在這邊也跟部長這邊討論一下喔就是因為針對我們噪音防制我們的寄收方式\n\n24\n00:09:08,976 --> 00:09:30,731\n從之前應該是最大起飛的重量還有我們的起飛的音量現在比利時也有針對飛機機零的部分也納入新生效的關稅制度那是不是也針對飛機機零這部分是不是也可以納入這噪音防制這個回饋金的部分去做這個計收的方式\n\n25\n00:09:31,471 --> 00:09:33,272\n吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林\n\n26\n00:09:52,344 --> 00:10:06,992\n二月初到三月初不是跟美國NASA做中南部的這個空氣品質三度空間的那個測試嗎那美國那一架飛機是54年的DC-8的那個機型\n\n27\n00:10:08,113 --> 00:10:26,712\n54年結果他有辦法在我們的跑道裡面大概是10來公尺就低飛然後去蒐集我們整個中南部包括台南機場、花蓮機場的空氣品質所以我個人的感覺是機零有時候也很難去當作一個標準因為裡面的可能發動機還是什麼都會更新\n\n28\n00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:38,170\n那針對這部份也希望說針對噪音防制規定能夠讓這個受影響的居民能夠得到他們應有的回饋我認同我認同好感謝謝謝部長謝謝涂委員謝謝涂權吉委員接下來請\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n14553\t17734\t謝謝主席,再麻煩請我們薛部長今天針對我們噪音管制的問題我們了解世界衛生組織針對住宅區戶外它平均的音量是以55分貝來做建議的標準\n40381\t60421\t所以經過我們調查的顯示75到80分貝會讓人感覺吵雜不舒適那50到55分貝以下我們會感覺比較舒適對不對那針對這一部分環境部有沒有針對住宅區的音量設計類似的這些標準\n63528\t67091\t所以我們針對各個區塊都有設一些噪音管制的標準嘛那\n92109\t109816\t我會讓大家瞭解一下因為我們有看這個統計從2021年到2023年我們看從2021年開始桃園龜山、基隆、新北樹林、新北淡水、臺北萬華、高雄這兩年的時間\n110956\t135144\t就發生了因為噪音而殺人的事件所以這個幾個共同點據我們瞭解幾乎都是在集合式住宅或者社區那針對這些部分不知道我們環境部有沒有針對這些社區噪音造成的這些影響有沒有做過這些研究有沒有提出一些因應的辦法\n136732\t159010\t給涂權報告這種社區這個鄰里之間的一些爭執事實上可能是警察單位來在負責大概是環境部很難會因為鄰居比如說包括樓上唱卡拉OK放聲音很大還是怎麼樣他們通常應該是會向警政單位檢舉其實這個\n161392\t188884\t今天會提出這個就是因為說希望我們環境部能夠重視這個噪音所影響的問題也希望對於我們管委會的功能其實很重要也希望我們環境部結合我們內政部還有衛福部希望能夠針對這些部分做一些研究希望說能夠從我們各部會之間能夠提出一些方法盡量讓這些悲劇不要這樣子發生\n189824\t207498\t我認同涂元的建議 這個應該是真的要跨部位對 我希望說做一些研究 是不是在這之前能夠提出一些因應的方法、一些改善措施希望能夠超前部署 不要讓這些悲劇一再的發生涂元這個建議非常正面、非常好 我認同\n208078\t233534\t那針對噪音的部分其實我們知道噪音其實最大宗應該是車輛的噪音那從去年開始桃園市長張三正上來以後有推出一個淨桃專案因為桃園市針對這個車輛噪音這個民眾反映很多年反映給很多的單位都一直沒有辦法解決造成民眾很大的困擾後來我們發現推這個淨桃專案之後\n236936\t254809\t從去年6月份開始他設了稽查點設了50處然後這整個陳情案件就明顯下降了14%那是不是我們環境部對這個淨桃專案有做一些瞭解是的我們環境部補助的桃園市有27部的\n256730\t275887\t啊這個噪音的這個檢測的這個設備所以各位看到的這一部應該也是就是屬於這一類他就是科技執法嘛對不對對用科技執法的方式他前天齁所以事實上不管不管白天夜間事實上都可以那這個應該是有嚇阻的效果\n276347\t302689\t對其實我們後來研究其實他這個淨濤專案他要歸功在這個聲音跟照相的科技執法因為以前稽查的困難度在於說他要配合警察局、環保局、監理站等各單位設這個臨檢點聯合稽查才有辦法取締所以造成他的難度很高後來發現這個聲音照相科技執法之後發現這個成效很好\n305091\t328180\t那是不是針對這一部分我們環境部行政院好像針對這一部分好像有提出預算對不對是給涂權報告原本是從112到116編列這裡面講的1.9億購買306套那因為現在大家需求非常這個殷切我們已經把時間縮短到明年底就來完成這個請購的306套給地方政府\n332742\t349207\t那未來事實上剛剛也很多委員非常贊成也非常支持我們所以我們希望說115接下來再有一個三年或四年計畫來加速購買更多的這個設備因為的確現在噪音造成大家在生活\n351890\t367068\t對,因為剛剛我們有聽到王毓民委員提出說這個306套好像單就臺中市好像就拿走了50套所以是不是針對這個預算的部分他們的申請,臺中市申請嘛,他申請沒有核准\n369150\t396505\t其實重點在於說大家都覺得這個科技執法這個部分成效非常好所以各縣市都希望能夠增加這個科技執法的設備來嚇阻這個車輛所造成的噪音的問題那所以涂權這一塊希望針對這一塊的預算我相信很多委員都會支持那也希望說能夠把我們這個車輛的噪音做一個很好的改善\n397245\t419806\t我們會積極來努力爭取更多預算來投入到噪音的這個科技執法好那其實除了車輛噪音之外像我們桃園市飛機所影響這個交通噪音因為桃園市有我們全台灣最大的國際機場那所以它的航空噪音也是全國最嚴重的地方\n420306\t420506\t因為這個民航的部分齁\n449008\t449028\t好﹗\n462956\t480453\t我們報告我今天是我這邊是公共運輸室是針對車輛的部分、航空的部分好沒關係那針對我們環境部我們噪音防治法規定它這個防治區兩年就要檢討一次可是2021年已經檢討一次正常2023年就要檢討那是不是2024年我們有這個規劃嗎\n486338\t501275\t我覺得我們應該是定期要來檢討,看看有哪些地方不足。當然委員只要有更好的一些建議或想法,像桃園它是屬於航空城,所以的確有一個特殊的需要。\n502250\t529133\t因為之前當然可能疫情的關係啦那現在慢慢疫情已經趨緩那從之前飛機的架次又從22.5萬現在又恢復到31萬可是它全盛時期是52萬我們現在認為第三跑道再增設下去我們這飛機的架次一定會更多是不是針對這個噪音防制有可能會擴大影響到更多的民眾所以\n530715\t547755\t針對這個噪音防制希望能夠再重新檢討讓我們的民眾能夠分配到他應該有的噪音防制回饋金那在這邊也跟部長這邊討論一下喔就是因為針對我們噪音防制我們的寄收方式\n548976\t570731\t從之前應該是最大起飛的重量還有我們的起飛的音量現在比利時也有針對飛機機零的部分也納入新生效的關稅制度那是不是也針對飛機機零這部分是不是也可以納入這噪音防制這個回饋金的部分去做這個計收的方式\n571471\t573272\t吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林\n592344\t606992\t二月初到三月初不是跟美國NASA做中南部的這個空氣品質三度空間的那個測試嗎那美國那一架飛機是54年的DC-8的那個機型\n608113\t626712\t54年結果他有辦法在我們的跑道裡面大概是10來公尺就低飛然後去蒐集我們整個中南部包括台南機場、花蓮機場的空氣品質所以我個人的感覺是機零有時候也很難去當作一個標準因為裡面的可能發動機還是什麼都會更新\n627293\t638170\t那針對這部份也希望說針對噪音防制規定能夠讓這個受影響的居民能夠得到他們應有的回饋我認同我認同好感謝謝謝部長謝謝涂委員謝謝涂權吉委員接下來請\n","txt":"謝謝主席,再麻煩請我們薛部長今天針對我們噪音管制的問題我們了解世界衛生組織針對住宅區戶外它平均的音量是以55分貝來做建議的標準\n所以經過我們調查的顯示75到80分貝會讓人感覺吵雜不舒適那50到55分貝以下我們會感覺比較舒適對不對那針對這一部分環境部有沒有針對住宅區的音量設計類似的這些標準\n所以我們針對各個區塊都有設一些噪音管制的標準嘛那\n我會讓大家瞭解一下因為我們有看這個統計從2021年到2023年我們看從2021年開始桃園龜山、基隆、新北樹林、新北淡水、臺北萬華、高雄這兩年的時間\n就發生了因為噪音而殺人的事件所以這個幾個共同點據我們瞭解幾乎都是在集合式住宅或者社區那針對這些部分不知道我們環境部有沒有針對這些社區噪音造成的這些影響有沒有做過這些研究有沒有提出一些因應的辦法\n給涂權報告這種社區這個鄰里之間的一些爭執事實上可能是警察單位來在負責大概是環境部很難會因為鄰居比如說包括樓上唱卡拉OK放聲音很大還是怎麼樣他們通常應該是會向警政單位檢舉其實這個\n今天會提出這個就是因為說希望我們環境部能夠重視這個噪音所影響的問題也希望對於我們管委會的功能其實很重要也希望我們環境部結合我們內政部還有衛福部希望能夠針對這些部分做一些研究希望說能夠從我們各部會之間能夠提出一些方法盡量讓這些悲劇不要這樣子發生\n我認同涂元的建議 這個應該是真的要跨部位對 我希望說做一些研究 是不是在這之前能夠提出一些因應的方法、一些改善措施希望能夠超前部署 不要讓這些悲劇一再的發生涂元這個建議非常正面、非常好 我認同\n那針對噪音的部分其實我們知道噪音其實最大宗應該是車輛的噪音那從去年開始桃園市長張三正上來以後有推出一個淨桃專案因為桃園市針對這個車輛噪音這個民眾反映很多年反映給很多的單位都一直沒有辦法解決造成民眾很大的困擾後來我們發現推這個淨桃專案之後\n從去年6月份開始他設了稽查點設了50處然後這整個陳情案件就明顯下降了14%那是不是我們環境部對這個淨桃專案有做一些瞭解是的我們環境部補助的桃園市有27部的\n啊這個噪音的這個檢測的這個設備所以各位看到的這一部應該也是就是屬於這一類他就是科技執法嘛對不對對用科技執法的方式他前天齁所以事實上不管不管白天夜間事實上都可以那這個應該是有嚇阻的效果\n對其實我們後來研究其實他這個淨濤專案他要歸功在這個聲音跟照相的科技執法因為以前稽查的困難度在於說他要配合警察局、環保局、監理站等各單位設這個臨檢點聯合稽查才有辦法取締所以造成他的難度很高後來發現這個聲音照相科技執法之後發現這個成效很好\n那是不是針對這一部分我們環境部行政院好像針對這一部分好像有提出預算對不對是給涂權報告原本是從112到116編列這裡面講的1.9億購買306套那因為現在大家需求非常這個殷切我們已經把時間縮短到明年底就來完成這個請購的306套給地方政府\n那未來事實上剛剛也很多委員非常贊成也非常支持我們所以我們希望說115接下來再有一個三年或四年計畫來加速購買更多的這個設備因為的確現在噪音造成大家在生活\n對,因為剛剛我們有聽到王毓民委員提出說這個306套好像單就臺中市好像就拿走了50套所以是不是針對這個預算的部分他們的申請,臺中市申請嘛,他申請沒有核准\n其實重點在於說大家都覺得這個科技執法這個部分成效非常好所以各縣市都希望能夠增加這個科技執法的設備來嚇阻這個車輛所造成的噪音的問題那所以涂權這一塊希望針對這一塊的預算我相信很多委員都會支持那也希望說能夠把我們這個車輛的噪音做一個很好的改善\n我們會積極來努力爭取更多預算來投入到噪音的這個科技執法好那其實除了車輛噪音之外像我們桃園市飛機所影響這個交通噪音因為桃園市有我們全台灣最大的國際機場那所以它的航空噪音也是全國最嚴重的地方\n因為這個民航的部分齁\n好﹗\n我們報告我今天是我這邊是公共運輸室是針對車輛的部分、航空的部分好沒關係那針對我們環境部我們噪音防治法規定它這個防治區兩年就要檢討一次可是2021年已經檢討一次正常2023年就要檢討那是不是2024年我們有這個規劃嗎\n我覺得我們應該是定期要來檢討,看看有哪些地方不足。當然委員只要有更好的一些建議或想法,像桃園它是屬於航空城,所以的確有一個特殊的需要。\n因為之前當然可能疫情的關係啦那現在慢慢疫情已經趨緩那從之前飛機的架次又從22.5萬現在又恢復到31萬可是它全盛時期是52萬我們現在認為第三跑道再增設下去我們這飛機的架次一定會更多是不是針對這個噪音防制有可能會擴大影響到更多的民眾所以\n針對這個噪音防制希望能夠再重新檢討讓我們的民眾能夠分配到他應該有的噪音防制回饋金那在這邊也跟部長這邊討論一下喔就是因為針對我們噪音防制我們的寄收方式\n從之前應該是最大起飛的重量還有我們的起飛的音量現在比利時也有針對飛機機零的部分也納入新生效的關稅制度那是不是也針對飛機機零這部分是不是也可以納入這噪音防制這個回饋金的部分去做這個計收的方式\n吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林吉林\n二月初到三月初不是跟美國NASA做中南部的這個空氣品質三度空間的那個測試嗎那美國那一架飛機是54年的DC-8的那個機型\n54年結果他有辦法在我們的跑道裡面大概是10來公尺就低飛然後去蒐集我們整個中南部包括台南機場、花蓮機場的空氣品質所以我個人的感覺是機零有時候也很難去當作一個標準因為裡面的可能發動機還是什麼都會更新\n那針對這部份也希望說針對噪音防制規定能夠讓這個受影響的居民能夠得到他們應有的回饋我認同我認同好感謝謝謝部長謝謝涂委員謝謝涂權吉委員接下來請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:14.553 --> 00:17.734\n謝謝主席,再麻煩請我們薛部長今天針對我們噪音管制的問題我們了解世界衛生組織針對住宅區戶外它平均的音量是以55分貝來做建議的標準\n\n00:40.381 --> 01:00.421\n所以經過我們調查的顯示75到80分貝會讓人感覺吵雜不舒適那50到55分貝以下我們會感覺比較舒適對不對那針對這一部分環境部有沒有針對住宅區的音量設計類似的這些標準\n\n01:03.528 --> 01:07.091\n所以我們針對各個區塊都有設一些噪音管制的標準嘛那\n\n01:32.109 --> 01:49.816\n我會讓大家瞭解一下因為我們有看這個統計從2021年到2023年我們看從2021年開始桃園龜山、基隆、新北樹林、新北淡水、臺北萬華、高雄這兩年的時間\n\n01:50.956 --> 02:15.144\n就發生了因為噪音而殺人的事件所以這個幾個共同點據我們瞭解幾乎都是在集合式住宅或者社區那針對這些部分不知道我們環境部有沒有針對這些社區噪音造成的這些影響有沒有做過這些研究有沒有提出一些因應的辦法\n\n02:16.732 --> 02:39.010\n給涂權報告這種社區這個鄰里之間的一些爭執事實上可能是警察單位來在負責大概是環境部很難會因為鄰居比如說包括樓上唱卡拉OK放聲音很大還是怎麼樣他們通常應該是會向警政單位檢舉其實這個\n\n02:41.392 --> 03:08.884\n今天會提出這個就是因為說希望我們環境部能夠重視這個噪音所影響的問題也希望對於我們管委會的功能其實很重要也希望我們環境部結合我們內政部還有衛福部希望能夠針對這些部分做一些研究希望說能夠從我們各部會之間能夠提出一些方法盡量讓這些悲劇不要這樣子發生\n\n03:09.824 --> 03:27.498\n我認同涂元的建議這個應該是真的要跨部位對我希望說做一些研究是不是在這之前能夠提出一些因應的方法、一些改善措施希望能夠超前部署不要讓這些悲劇一再的發生涂元這個建議非常正面、非常好我認同\n\n03:28.078 --> 03:53.534\n那針對噪音的部分其實我們知道噪音其實最大宗應該是車輛的噪音那從去年開始桃園市長張三正上來以後有推出一個淨桃專案因為桃園市針對這個車輛噪音這個民眾反映很多年反映給很多的單位都一直沒有辦法解決造成民眾很大的困擾後來我們發現推這個淨桃專案之後\n\n03:56.936 --> 04:14.809\n從去年6月份開始他設了稽查點設了50處然後這整個陳情案件就明顯下降了14%那是不是我們環境部對這個淨桃專案有做一些瞭解是的我們環境部補助的桃園市有27部的\n\n04:16.730 --> 04:35.887\n啊這個噪音的這個檢測的這個設備所以各位看到的這一部應該也是就是屬於這一類他就是科技執法嘛對不對對用科技執法的方式他前天齁所以事實上不管不管白天夜間事實上都可以那這個應該是有嚇阻的效果\n\n04:36.347 --> 05:02.689\n對其實我們後來研究其實他這個淨濤專案他要歸功在這個聲音跟照相的科技執法因為以前稽查的困難度在於說他要配合警察局、環保局、監理站等各單位設這個臨檢點聯合稽查才有辦法取締所以造成他的難度很高後來發現這個聲音照相科技執法之後發現這個成效很好\n\n05:05.091 --> 05:28.180\n那是不是針對這一部分我們環境部行政院好像針對這一部分好像有提出預算對不對是給涂權報告原本是從112到116編列這裡面講的1.9億購買306套那因為現在大家需求非常這個殷切我們已經把時間縮短到明年底就來完成這個請購的306套給地方政府\n\n05:32.742 --> 05:49.207\n那未來事實上剛剛也很多委員非常贊成也非常支持我們所以我們希望說115接下來再有一個三年或四年計畫來加速購買更多的這個設備因為的確現在噪音造成大家在生活\n\n05:51.890 --> 06:07.068\n對,因為剛剛我們有聽到王毓民委員提出說這個306套好像單就臺中市好像就拿走了50套所以是不是針對這個預算的部分他們的申請,臺中市申請嘛,他申請沒有核准\n\n06:09.150 --> 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