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00:01:01,326\n不合格的排氣管他就不會去裝那不會去裝就不會有這噪音鈔票的問題嘛所以本席也看到說你今天的報告裡面有源頭管理並且講說本部已經合格了225組的排氣管供車主選用225組裡面有多少組是汽車有多少組是汽車\n\n4\n00:01:02,472 --> 00:01:04,433\n現在也有討論到是說未來也要做這個排氣管的認證是不是?\n\n5\n00:01:27,375 --> 00:01:39,358\n現在已經有在認證了我們現在認證已經根據今天的報告比例現在認證了多少1957件已經完成認證那持續在進行當中1957件已經在認證當中那現在改裝車主向環保局登錄的車輛是一萬四千多件一萬五千件左右所以什麼時候他會認證完畢就你們現在的量能來講\n\n6\n00:01:55,575 --> 00:02:12,871\n大概8月份左右8月份可以?對你們現在是委由地方政府環保局去做各地的認證?是是是所以認證完之後好認證這是重要的就代表是說本席之前記者強調的是叫源頭管理是不要說讓大家覺得說你抓\n\n7\n00:02:14,113 --> 00:02:35,875\n看到改裝車就覺得是說他們是這個過街老鼠其實重點還在於是說你有辦法去做噪音我們就要強烈取締噪音問題才是最重要的嘛對不對那所以現在除了這個源頭管理以外那更重要的是這所謂的科技執法因為我們地方政府環保局的人員其實人力上還是不足啊\n\n8\n00:02:36,235 --> 00:02:58,278\n而且你很難說要配合是這個街頭的這個取締或說街頭的一個檢視所以說科技執法相對重要但是你在第10頁的一個報告科技執法說114年增加306套完全沒有進步為什麼這樣講這是去年10月的數字\n\n9\n00:03:00,231 --> 00:03:26,167\n去年10月環境部在做專案報告的時候你就是講2025年306套那半年過去了在去年10月的時候每一個委員我記得至少本席節目好幾位委員也都在提說其實如果說科技執法真的能夠來讓有些都會地區可以來增加這樣的一個執法量能的話應該要考慮多加的一個增加\n\n10\n00:03:27,088 --> 00:03:55,584\n但半年過去了到今天你還是拿114年306套來我說實在話這不要講螳射啊這半年沒有任何的進步沒有增加你自己去看即便是新北市人口數最多啊36我們新北市幾個行政區29個行政區平均一個行政區一套阿公仔比較不順眼一個行政區一套\n\n11\n00:03:59,017 --> 00:04:06,383\n您看得出問題了嗎?你剛剛講是112到116本來是計畫本來就規劃306套所以它執行期限是到116等於2027年是你現在提早一年變2025年306套這個是去年10月跟我們報告的數字\n\n12\n00:04:20,595 --> 00:04:20,635\n拜訪委員\n\n13\n00:04:37,746 --> 00:05:01,767\n你現在都讓本席看到本席為什麼今天特別點出來就是就事論事拿你的報告來去做說明去年10月本席就已經提過了就說其實科技執法確實地方政府也有需求那每一套設備我記得那時候我有詢問過差不多80萬左右看固定式或是移動式80到100萬對不對那你現在關我的新北市36套\n\n14\n00:05:03,746 --> 00:05:31,804\n行政區平均一個一套,就是板橋區一個,綜合區一個那更不用講其他桃園,我們有桃園的委員27套台北市23套我們說不算,這真的太少那對比我們的超速,交通部有來嗎?我們超速,本席如果所有印象的話我們超速全台灣有多少?師長剛好在師長講一下我們交通部超速我們測速照相有多少?\n\n15\n00:05:34,246 --> 00:05:39,476\n一萬多吧我記得沒錯的話這個數量的部分我可能沒有準備好不好意思噪音我們\n\n16\n00:05:43,703 --> 00:06:04,377\n我再次強調啊如果你沒有違規你沒有在夜深人靜的時候那我跟我們剛剛委員有講本席的泰山本席的林口本席的淡水還有很多的新市鎮半夜在那邊開過去今天別人不知道你開好車還是今天別人不知道你有改裝車\n\n17\n00:06:06,205 --> 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