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00:00:49,026\n摧照者保護法我們是來保護這個相關的檢舉檢舉人他的權益他不至於受到相關的一些處分我想這個部分我們是支持覺得這是一個進步的社會所應該有的一個法令\n\n3\n00:00:50,598 --> 00:00:55,440\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。namon\n\n4\n00:01:10,068 --> 00:01:32,675\n總統曾經說過立法院因為太多黨的聲音所以呢變成修法的阻礙但是吹嘯者保護法的我們的三黨派都在上一個會期各自有提出版本且我們都有共識要通過請問我們行政院版\n\n5\n00:01:33,256 --> 00:01:43,578\n新的法案版本到底何時可以提交?是否認同這種將責任推卸給立法院的做法?\n\n6\n00:01:44,930 --> 00:02:08,813\n我想行政院絕對沒有把責任推卸給立法院但是到現在還沒有看到你們新的法案的版本目前就是因為各界大家對這個法案還有很多的意見所以法務部目前在今年的3月把相關的法的草案送到院裡面來那院裡面正有法務的政委在做相關的審查\n\n7\n00:02:11,735 --> 00:02:36,585\n來也在徵詢各界的意見那如果一旦法案成熟也比較周延就會送到貴院經過行政院議員會之後就會送到貴院你可以保證會送過來嗎?因為你要卸任因為現在你說的有效的嗎?目前還在徵詢的階段那如果法案比較周延我想完整也成熟就會來送到貴院來\n\n8\n00:02:39,711 --> 00:02:56,047\n從2019年就推了到現在剛才你也認同但是現在他說還沒有成熟其實現在有很多的領域已經不等這個立法通過已經在實施吹哨者保護接避者保護的這些措施包括現在政府的採購法\n\n9\n00:02:56,988 --> 00:02:58,389\n審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n\n10\n00:03:11,625 --> 00:03:33,219\n本席前日在內政部委員會有質詢就有問過我國不只是平均地權條例民眾對各界的政府大多數的檢舉機制還有就是都必須實名制現在連黃牛要檢舉都要實名制\n\n11\n00:03:34,179 --> 00:03:39,525\n所以很多案件內容都涉及利益非常的龐大。現在我們這樣的機制真的能保護我們的檢舉的人嗎?並且有達到鼓勵檢舉的目的嗎?\n\n12\n00:03:52,850 --> 00:04:21,352\n目前這樣的機制就是讓檢舉人他的工作權益他不會受到他的被檢舉的上級或者是被檢舉的主管有所這個在行政上的一個對他的施壓或者迫害我想目前這些法條確實都有這些相關的規定但是也還在怎麼樣可以讓他更周延也不至於被腐爛的這個使用我想這個部分還在做相關的徵詢\n\n13\n00:04:23,534 --> 00:04:36,847\n則結斷好如果是這樣的話我們請行政院用書面一個月內可以用一個明確有進度還有預期的時間表給我可以嗎可以可以\n\n14\n00:04:38,459 --> 00:04:42,464\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。厲\n\n15\n00:04:54,399 --> 00:04:57,120\n三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案\n\n16\n00:05:16,085 --> 00:05:19,667\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案計2案。\n\n17\n00:05:37,775 --> 00:05:49,259\n後面就把這個款就繳回了竟然還可以繼續當任這個職務真的太離譜了關於就是官員從事違法活動後的處置問題目前看到的很多案都是高高就提起就輕輕放下來就當作就是我們官員貪污還是一樣可以繼續來去任職\n\n18\n00:06:07,006 --> 00:06:22,361\n要還了不當的得利還這否就是不用再追嚴其他的責任我們行政院如何追嚴更深層的責任以嚴防未來類似這樣子的腐敗發生\n\n19\n00:06:26,666 --> 00:06:37,874\n這個部分陳景倫先生已經我們有要求他把相關的議領的差旅費都已經繳回繳回就是還可以繼續當任還是相關那另外也已經把他的證件相關的這個這個事證都移送地檢署那麼正在做相關的查證有沒有犯罪或貪賭的這個這個問題目前是這樣也沒有停職也沒有留職查\n\n20\n00:06:52,193 --> 00:06:56,536\n那這個如果查證屬實我想後續就會對於職務上來做處置如果只是說我們的官員和公務人員都那個涉嫌貪污的話我們必須要遠景還有用那個程序我們的證據要確定後因為大家都花很多時間來去查所以然而我們的公眾對於這個程序就是那個具體的步驟\n\n21\n00:07:21,372 --> 00:07:42,676\n都沒有透明所以我們希望呢我們這些都是要我們民眾非常的關切的所以我們希望我們的政府要公正要透明讓更多人可以看得到但是我們政府卻一拖再拖這樣子的議題希望我們能夠正視這個問題可以嗎?如何確保我們的程序還有透明化?\n\n22\n00:07:51,175 --> 00:08:05,326\n是,我想這個部分確實是相關政府部門的相關的核銷或是經費的請領他除了主會計另外還有政風那事後還會有審計單位是的,因為大家都在忙這個但是呢,我們是繳回後還是可以繼續任職\n\n23\n00:08:11,050 --> 00:08:12,791\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算凍結書面報告案\n\n24\n00:08:37,433 --> 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