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Tahovecahe委員：部長好、主委好。前幾天，4月19號的新聞，我們有看到泛公股華南銀行香港分行違反洗錢規定，遭到當地政府開罰3,680萬，照理說財政部、臺銀有共同持股，可是我們在財政部的新聞稿專區好像沒看到、隻字不提；金管會作為我國金融監理機構，我們的銀行遭到他國銀行的監理機構重額裁罰，在新聞專區也是沒有看到。所以在這邊想要瞭解一下，華南銀行遭到香港政府的重額裁罰，這是政治問題還是他們的疏失？看一下2016年兆豐銀行紐約分行當時違反洗錢防制法遭到紐約州金融署處以臺灣史上最高罰款1.8億美金，當時提出兆豐紐約分行有六大問題，像內控不佳、疑似洗錢的匯款沒有申報，或者是對客戶的實地查核不確實、風控政策不明，或者稽核的季報沒有依規定送總行，又或者它漠視金融檢查報告不回應等等，所以想要瞭解一下，先問一下主委，金管會有沒有去瞭解這個是不是有違反相關的一些法制？"],["黃主任委員天牧：它當然是有違反的缺失，可是它不是真正的洗錢，它處理警示帳戶累積過多，沒有及時依照香港金管局的規定去處理，所以給予的處分……"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，所以是一個小缺失？"],["黃主任委員天牧：這不是有一個交易是真正違反防制洗錢。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，跟洗錢無關啦！"],["黃主任委員天牧：對。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：按照我們財政部派任公民營事業機構的管理要點，如果我們的內部稽核、內部控制有遭到調降，或有受到國內外主管機關裁罰的情事，立即要以書面報告向財政部說明事件的經過、處置的情形以及可能的影響。不知道財政部這個地方有沒有掌握到什麼？"],["莊部長翠雲：有的，華南銀行確實有通報這個重大的事件，也通報給財政部，然後這個事情大概就是剛剛如主委所說的，事實上是在107年以前的事情，就是有關那個系統的有效驗證做不好，以至於有關警示案件大量產生，而且是華南銀行的香港分行主動去跟香港的金管局自行匯報，那邊的金管局也要求他們要去改善，那事實上也改善了，也經過相關的委外顧問確認改善是有效的，這個部分都經過這樣的一個處理了。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，謝謝部長。因為8大公股行庫在香港都設有分行，所以這樣的一個個案我們還是需要通報各個銀行，看看他們有沒有違反香港的一些金管規定，對吧？"],["莊部長翠雲：是，我們一定會讓各個分行都要注意。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，謝謝。再來請教一下金管會主委，請問您支不支持壽險業降低海外投資占比，回臺來挹注我國的產業發展？"],["黃主任委員天牧：我們的報告希望維持現狀，但是維持現狀也可以同樣讓資金挹注我國的產業發展。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：跟主委報告，其實我這樣子聽，把我們的資金回流到臺灣，其實大家都覺得是一個方向、是一個目標，立意良善，但是我們也看到很多的聲音，擔憂如果是一次性的大量湧入，會很擔心說會不會造成一些金融上的波動，舉個例子來講，如果國外投資總額從現在的45%下降到25%，我們去把它設算，加計國際版債券的上限之後，也就是說會從65.25%下降到36.25%，跟目前實際的占比57.5%的差距會到達21.25%。如果去乘上壽險資金總額，如果以32兆來看，大概就是會有6.8兆因為超過上限，它會立即湧入到臺灣。這個金額到底是怎麼樣的狀況，我們也有去試算，如果以臺灣史上最高單月的淨匯入金額，在2023年的11月是3,521億，這個6.8兆就會是史上最高的19.3倍，請教一下主委，它會造成什麼影響，會讓臺幣飆升嗎？還是讓出口惡化？"],["黃主任委員天牧：我覺得這還不是直接的，直接的就是這些保戶的權益怎麼維護。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：是。"],["黃主任委員天牧：這些投資出去，是因為保單的年期跟收益率需要他要到國外投資，那你回來如果沒有適當的標的，如何保障保戶的權益？"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：那請教主委，您也講到了，為了要匹配我們的保單，所以我們也很想知道壽險資金在臺灣的可投資項目多不多？"],["黃主任委員天牧：其實很多，有價證券、不動產、公共建設專案運用都可以去投資，股票也可以投資。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好。主委，我們這樣子想，第一個就是您說的，就是顧全、保障這些保戶的權益是最優先的，但是把資金回流到臺灣也是一個方向、一個目標，所以我們也是希望能夠逐步的移回。更重要的是，我們比較期待能夠拓展一些可投資的國內項目，像上次我們有提到，其實長照機構我們就蠻希望有人來投資，所以這個部分就請我們的金管會務必要拿出一些作法、對策、態度，我想這個部分是我們對金管會的期待，主委您覺得呢？"],["黃主任委員天牧：有，跟委員報告，今天報告第8頁就已經把我們過去鬆綁，讓他有控制權，降低風險係數的作法，按照跨年逐步跟委員做報告。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：所以我們的目標、方向就是跨年逐步下降嗎？"],["黃主任委員天牧：沒有，我是說我都有把我們歷年來怎麼樣去協助都列出來在報告第8頁、第9頁，陳給委員參考，那我們會繼續努力。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，謝謝主委，您先回座。請教一下部長，因為我們今天也有來談娛樂稅，大家也都講的很多，我也不再贅述，不過我們的想法都是說，從2007年修正到現在2024年，真的啦！整個狀況都不同，光是我們看在疫情期間，我們非常鼓勵去振興我們的藝文產業，現在電影院也都沒人去了，其實我們是反過來去想要怎麼振興，可是我們在2007年修正的時候，像有一些保齡球館或者舞廳，他們的稅目已經刪除了，可是稅率卻是保留的，所以大家一直覺得這個部分是不是應該趁這個時候一併的來刪除，不曉得部長您怎麼看？"],["莊部長翠雲：上一次的委員提案大概做了一些修正，但是相對應的稅率那個部分並沒有做調整，所以未來在修的時候可以一併的去把它做一個調整，如同委員所說的這樣子才對。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：好，所以會一併的來刪除修正？"],["莊部長翠雲：對，應該是。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：另外一塊就是我們談到要針對一些稅目來去做處理的時候，財政部的回答，我聽到的大概都是說要聽地方政府的意見，所以想要請教一下部長，因為我們不太瞭解，也許你很瞭解，地方政府不同意，到底他是因為在意他的稅收減少，還是說他不希望這些稅目刪除，想要繼續消滅這些靡靡之音？"],["莊部長翠雲：主要還是在於稅收的減少，跟委員報告，尤其在縣裡面，他的鄉鎮市所收取的娛樂稅都是歸鄉鎮市，這對鄉鎮市來說是非常重要的一個財源，所以這個部分主要還是因為收入的問題。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：我看到娛樂稅一年稅收大概19億，您覺得很多嗎？"],["莊部長翠雲：19億當然在地方來說，某些部分還是很……對他們來說還是蠻重要的一個財源，因為各個地方譬如以鄉鎮來說，這個錢很重要。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：所以大家過去都提出很多解方，像是調高營業稅稅率或者做財劃法的修正、提高營業稅的統籌分配，又或者直接由中央編列預算補助、併入奢侈稅、開徵碳稅、地方政府開徵特別稅課，這是大家提出的各種解方，大概也不外乎這六種，聽起來最有可能的就是中央編列預算補助，一年19億，然後去分配一下，如果要找到一些替代財源也不難，像國產署也經常做清理的案件，或者是稅收增加的財源等等，所以在這個地方可不可以請部長您六選一？"],["莊部長翠雲：跟委員報告，這六項當然我們都可以去研議，它各有其問題在裡面……"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：有，我們歷年看到你們的回應，我們大概也都瞭解，總是要六選一的話，你選哪一個？"],["莊部長翠雲：我想這個不是說我今天在這邊選，我覺得我們必須好好的討論來做一個研議。"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：是跟地方政府討論？"],["莊部長翠雲：當然跟地方政府，然後再加上我們中央裡面……"],["伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員：不跟立委討論？"],["莊部長翠雲：也要跟立委討論，立委當然是非常重要的。"],["伍麗華Saidhai 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00:01:35,085\n20162016年趙鋒銀行紐約分行當時違反洗錢防治法遭到紐約州的金融署除以台灣史上最高的罰款是1.8億的美金當時提出他們有6大問題像內控不佳、疑似洗錢的匯款沒有申報\n\n5\n00:01:36,286 --> 00:02:02,936\n或者是對客戶的實地查核不確實、封控政策不明、或者積核的寄報沒有依規定送總行又或者他漠視金融檢查報告不回應等等所以想要就是了解一下先問一下主委那今晚會有沒有去了解這個是不是有違反相關的一些法制\n\n6\n00:02:04,445 --> 00:02:24,219\n他當然是有違反的缺失可是他不是真正的洗錢是他處理警示賬戶累積過多沒有及時依照香港金管局的規定去處理所以給予的處分所以是一個小缺失這不是真正的有一個交易是真正違反防止洗錢跟洗錢無關\n\n7\n00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,701\n委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n\n8\n00:02:41,053 --> 00:02:59,987\n到條件或有受到國內外主管機關財閥的情勢立即要以書面報告向財政部說明事件的經過處置的情形以及可能的影響那不知道財政部這個地方有沒有掌握到什麼\n\n9\n00:03:01,244 --> 00:03:25,094\n有的。華南銀行確實有通報這個重大的事件也通報給財政部然後這個事情大概就是剛剛如主委所說的事實上是在107年以前的事情就是有關那個系統的有效驗證做不好以至於有關警示案件大量產生而且是華南銀行的香港分行主動去跟香港的金管局去自己去匯報的那所以呢那個\n\n10\n00:03:26,314 --> 00:03:38,117\n那邊的金管局也要求他們要去改善那事實上也改善了也經過相關的委外的顧問經過改善是有效的這個部分都經過這樣的一個處理的好謝謝部長那因為八大公股行庫在香港都設有分行所以這樣的一個個案呢我們還是需要是不是讓通報各個銀行看看他們有沒有違反香港的一些金管規定對吧\n\n11\n00:03:53,121 --> 00:04:18,946\n是,我們一定會讓各個分行都要注意好,謝謝那再來請教一下我們金管會的主委請問您支不支持受險業降低海外投資佔比回台來抑制我國的產業發展我們的報告我們希望維持現狀但是維持現狀也可以同樣讓資金抑制我國的產業發展那跟主委報告\n\n12\n00:04:20,758 --> 00:04:39,024\n我這樣聽,把我們的資金回流到臺灣其實大家都覺得是一個方向是一個目標,利益良善但是我們也看到很多的聲音只是擔憂如果是一次性的大量湧入\n\n13\n00:04:40,144 --> 00:04:52,714\n會很擔心說會不會造成一些金融上的一個波動那舉個例子來講如果說國外投資總額從現在的45%下降到25%那我們去把它設算加計這個國際版債券的上限之後也就是說會從65.25%下降到36.25%\n\n14\n00:05:05,484 --> 00:05:26,897\n那跟目前實際的佔比57.5%差距會到達21.25%如果去乘上受險資金總額如果以32兆來看那大概就是說會有6.8兆因為他超過上限所以他會立即的湧入到台灣\n\n15\n00:05:27,978 --> 00:05:53,607\n那這個金額到底是怎麼樣的一個狀況那我們也看到有去試算如果以台灣史上最高單月的淨匯入金額在2023年的11月是3521億那這個6.8兆就會是史上最高的19.3倍請教一下主委就是它會造成什麼影響會讓台幣飆升嗎還是讓出口惡化\n\n16\n00:05:56,604 --> 00:06:21,431\n我覺得這還不是直接的直接的就是這些保護的權益怎麼維護是這些投資出去是因為他的保單的年期跟收益力需要他要到國外投資那你回來如果沒有適當的標的如何保障保護的權益那請教就主委了對您也講到了為了要匹配我們的保單嘛那所以我們也會很想知道就是受險資金在台灣的可投資項目多不多\n\n17\n00:06:24,656 --> 00:06:26,538\n委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n\n18\n00:06:42,432 --> 00:07:08,919\n把資金回流到臺灣也是一個方向、一個目標所以我們也是希望說能夠逐步的移回那更重要的是我們比較期待能夠拓展一些可投資的一些國內項目像上次我們有提到其實長照機構我們就蠻希望有人來投資所以這個部分就是請我們的金管會就是務必要拿出一些做法、對策、態度\n\n19\n00:07:10,779 --> 00:07:12,160\n主委您覺得呢?所以我們的目標方向就是跨年逐步下降嗎?\n\n20\n00:07:31,555 --> 00:07:46,108\n我都有把我們整個的歷年來怎麼樣去協助都列出來在這個報告第8月、第9月成為委員參考。那我們會繼續努力。好,謝謝主委。那我們先回座。那請教一下那個部長,因為我們今天也有來談娛樂稅。是。\n\n21\n00:07:48,430 --> 00:08:03,740\n那大家也都講了很多啦那我也就不再贅述不過我們的想法都是說從2007年修正到現在2024年真的啦整個狀況都不同光是我們看在疫情期間\n\n22\n00:08:04,761 --> 00:08:22,475\n我們非常鼓勵去振興我們的藝文產業那現在電影院也都沒人去了其實我們是反過來去想要怎麼振興可是我們在2007年修正的時候像有一些保齡球館啊\n\n23\n00:08:23,135 --> 00:08:24,957\n議員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復\n\n24\n00:08:40,957 --> 00:09:00,606\n上一次的修正委員提案大概做了一些修正但是相對應的稅率那個部分並沒有做調整所以未來在修的時候可以一併的去把它做一個調整如同委員所說的這樣子才對所以會一併的來三處修正那另外一塊就是我們談到要針對一些稅務來去做一個處理的時候\n\n25\n00:09:06,224 --> 00:09:29,361\n財政部的回答我聽到的大概都是說要聽地方政府的意見所以想要請教一下部長因為我們不太了解也許你很了解這個地方政府不同意到底他是因為在意他的稅收減少還是說他不希望這些稅務刪除想要繼續消滅這些迷你之音\n\n26\n00:09:31,495 --> 00:09:45,713\n主要還是在於稅收的減少跟委員報告尤其在縣裡面他的鄉鎮市所收取的娛樂稅都是歸鄉鎮市這對鄉鎮市來說是非常重要的一個財源所以這個部分主要還是因為這個收入的問題是那\n\n27\n00:09:48,776 --> 00:10:02,709\n我看到娛樂稅一年稅收大概19億,您覺得很多嗎?19億當然在地方來說某些部分還是對他們來說還是蠻重要的一個財源的,因為各個地方以鄉鎮來說這個錢很多\n\n28\n00:10:04,411 --> 00:10:32,536\n所以呢歷年大家都過去都提出很多的解方嘛像是調高營業稅稅率或者做財化法的修正提高營業稅的統籌分貝又或者呢直接由中央編列預算補助併入奢侈稅開徵碳稅那地方政府開徵特別稅額我是在想這是大家提出的各種解方啦大概也不外乎這六種\n\n29\n00:10:33,376 --> 00:10:53,293\n那聽起來最有可能的是中央編列預算補助一年19億那去分配一下那如果說要找到一些替代財源也不難啊像國產署也經常做清理的案件或者是稅收增加的財源等等所以在這個地方可不可以請部長您6選1\n\n30\n00:10:56,894 --> 00:11:11,599\n委員報告這6項當然我們都要可以去演繹它各有它的一個問題在裡面我們歷年看到你們的回應都我們大概也都了解總是要6選1的話你選哪一個我想這個不是說我這邊在這邊選我覺得我們應該必須好好的討論跟來做一個演繹是\n\n31\n00:11:16,161 --> 00:11:33,162\n是跟地方政府討論?當然地方政府,然後再加上我們中央裡面也要跟立委討論啦,立委當然是非常重要的事我是這樣覺得喔部長,因為我們的新政府要上任啦那賴清德總統他也提到文化建國的理念\n\n32\n00:11:34,443 --> 00:11:54,594\n所以我們真的是希望說把一些屬於藝文產業類的真的是可以拿掉了啦那如果真的覺得有一些是屬於高消費行為奢侈的那留著沒有關係但是總是要做一些改變好不好促進這些產業的發展好不好好那謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝吳麗華委員接著我們請鄭天才委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n109\t4094\t主席好,有請財政部金管會,謝謝。\n11075\t39103\t委員好部長好主委好前幾天4月19號的新聞我們有看到販工股的華南銀行香港分行它違反了洗錢的規定遭到當地政府開罰了3680萬那照理說財政部台銀有共同持股可是我們看財政部的新聞稿專區\n40743\t69313\t好像沒看到,隻字不提那儘管會作為我國金融監理機構我們的銀行遭到他國銀行的監理機構綜合裁法在新聞專區也是沒有看到所以在這邊就是想要了解一下華南銀行遭到香港政府的一個綜合裁法他是政治問題呢還是他們的一個疏失\n72054\t95085\t2016 2016年趙鋒銀行紐約分行當時違反洗錢防治法遭到紐約州的金融署除以台灣史上最高的罰款是1.8億的美金當時提出他們有6大問題像內控不佳、疑似洗錢的匯款沒有申報\n96286\t122936\t或者是對客戶的實地查核不確實、封控政策不明、或者積核的寄報沒有依規定送總行又或者他漠視金融檢查報告不回應等等所以想要就是了解一下先問一下主委那今晚會有沒有去了解這個是不是有違反相關的一些法制\n124445\t144219\t他當然是有違反的缺失可是他不是真正的洗錢是他處理警示賬戶累積過多沒有及時依照香港金管局的規定去處理所以給予的處分所以是一個小缺失這不是真正的有一個交易是真正違反防止洗錢跟洗錢無關\n145520\t146701\t委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n161053\t179987\t到條件或有受到國內外主管機關財閥的情勢立即要以書面報告向財政部說明事件的經過處置的情形以及可能的影響那不知道財政部這個地方有沒有掌握到什麼\n181244\t205094\t有的。華南銀行確實有通報這個重大的事件也通報給財政部然後這個事情大概就是剛剛如主委所說的事實上是在107年以前的事情就是有關那個系統的有效驗證做不好以至於有關警示案件大量產生而且是華南銀行的香港分行主動去跟香港的金管局去自己去匯報的那所以呢那個\n206314\t218117\t那邊的金管局也要求他們要去改善那事實上也改善了也經過相關的委外的顧問經過改善是有效的這個部分都經過這樣的一個處理的好 謝謝部長那因為八大公股行庫在香港都設有分行所以這樣的一個個案呢我們還是需要是不是讓通報各個銀行看看他們有沒有違反香港的一些金管規定對吧\n233121\t258946\t是,我們一定會讓各個分行都要注意好,謝謝那再來請教一下我們金管會的主委請問您支不支持受險業降低海外投資佔比回台來抑制我國的產業發展我們的報告我們希望維持現狀但是維持現狀也可以同樣讓資金抑制我國的產業發展那跟主委報告\n260758\t279024\t我這樣聽,把我們的資金回流到臺灣其實大家都覺得是一個方向是一個目標,利益良善但是我們也看到很多的聲音只是擔憂如果是一次性的大量湧入\n280144\t292714\t會很擔心說會不會造成一些金融上的一個波動那舉個例子來講如果說國外投資總額從現在的45%下降到25%那我們去把它設算加計這個國際版債券的上限之後也就是說會從65.25%下降到36.25%\n305484\t326897\t那跟目前實際的佔比57.5%差距會到達21.25%如果去乘上受險資金總額如果以32兆來看那大概就是說會有6.8兆因為他超過上限所以他會立即的湧入到台灣\n327978\t353607\t那這個金額到底是怎麼樣的一個狀況那我們也看到有去試算如果以台灣史上最高單月的淨匯入金額在2023年的11月是3521億那這個6.8兆就會是史上最高的19.3倍請教一下主委就是它會造成什麼影響會讓台幣飆升嗎還是讓出口惡化\n356604\t381431\t我覺得這還不是直接的直接的就是這些保護的權益怎麼維護是這些投資出去是因為他的保單的年期跟收益力需要他要到國外投資那你回來如果沒有適當的標的如何保障保護的權益那請教就主委了對您也講到了為了要匹配我們的保單嘛那所以我們也會很想知道就是受險資金在台灣的可投資項目多不多\n384656\t386538\t委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n402432\t428919\t把資金回流到臺灣也是一個方向、一個目標所以我們也是希望說能夠逐步的移回那更重要的是我們比較期待能夠拓展一些可投資的一些國內項目像上次我們有提到其實長照機構我們就蠻希望有人來投資所以這個部分就是請我們的金管會就是務必要拿出一些做法、對策、態度\n430779\t432160\t主委您覺得呢?所以我們的目標方向就是跨年逐步下降嗎?\n451555\t466108\t我都有把我們整個的歷年來怎麼樣去協助都列出來在這個報告第8月、第9月成為委員參考。那我們會繼續努力。好,謝謝主委。那我們先回座。那請教一下那個部長,因為我們今天也有來談娛樂稅。是。\n468430\t483740\t那大家也都講了很多啦那我也就不再贅述不過我們的想法都是說從2007年修正到現在2024年真的啦整個狀況都不同光是我們看在疫情期間\n484761\t502475\t我們非常鼓勵去振興我們的藝文產業那現在電影院也都沒人去了其實我們是反過來去想要怎麼振興可是我們在2007年修正的時候像有一些保齡球館啊\n503135\t504957\t議員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復\n520957\t540606\t上一次的修正委員提案大概做了一些修正但是相對應的稅率那個部分並沒有做調整所以未來在修的時候可以一併的去把它做一個調整如同委員所說的這樣子才對所以會一併的來三處修正那另外一塊就是我們談到要針對一些稅務來去做一個處理的時候\n546224\t569361\t財政部的回答我聽到的大概都是說要聽地方政府的意見所以想要請教一下部長因為我們不太了解也許你很了解這個地方政府不同意到底他是因為在意他的稅收減少還是說他不希望這些稅務刪除想要繼續消滅這些迷你之音\n571495\t585713\t主要還是在於稅收的減少跟委員報告尤其在縣裡面他的鄉鎮市所收取的娛樂稅都是歸鄉鎮市這對鄉鎮市來說是非常重要的一個財源所以這個部分主要還是因為這個收入的問題是那\n588776\t602709\t我看到娛樂稅一年稅收大概19億,您覺得很多嗎?19億當然在地方來說某些部分還是對他們來說還是蠻重要的一個財源的,因為各個地方以鄉鎮來說這個錢很多\n604411\t632536\t所以呢歷年大家都過去都提出很多的解方嘛像是調高營業稅稅率或者做財化法的修正提高營業稅的統籌分貝又或者呢直接由中央編列預算補助併入奢侈稅開徵碳稅那地方政府開徵特別稅額我是在想這是大家提出的各種解方啦大概也不外乎這六種\n633376\t653293\t那聽起來最有可能的是中央編列預算補助一年19億那去分配一下那如果說要找到一些替代財源也不難啊像國產署也經常做清理的案件或者是稅收增加的財源等等所以在這個地方可不可以請部長您6選1\n656894\t671599\t委員報告這6項當然我們都要可以去演繹它各有它的一個問題在裡面我們歷年看到你們的回應都我們大概也都了解總是要6選1的話你選哪一個我想這個不是說我這邊在這邊選我覺得我們應該必須好好的討論跟來做一個演繹是\n676161\t693162\t是跟地方政府討論?當然地方政府,然後再加上我們中央裡面也要跟立委討論啦,立委當然是非常重要的事我是這樣覺得喔部長,因為我們的新政府要上任啦那賴清德總統他也提到文化建國的理念\n694443\t714594\t所以我們真的是希望說把一些屬於藝文產業類的真的是可以拿掉了啦那如果真的覺得有一些是屬於高消費行為奢侈的那留著沒有關係但是總是要做一些改變好不好促進這些產業的發展好不好好那謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝吳麗華委員接著我們請鄭天才委員\n","txt":"主席好,有請財政部金管會,謝謝。\n委員好部長好主委好前幾天4月19號的新聞我們有看到販工股的華南銀行香港分行它違反了洗錢的規定遭到當地政府開罰了3680萬那照理說財政部台銀有共同持股可是我們看財政部的新聞稿專區\n好像沒看到,隻字不提那儘管會作為我國金融監理機構我們的銀行遭到他國銀行的監理機構綜合裁法在新聞專區也是沒有看到所以在這邊就是想要了解一下華南銀行遭到香港政府的一個綜合裁法他是政治問題呢還是他們的一個疏失\n2016 2016年趙鋒銀行紐約分行當時違反洗錢防治法遭到紐約州的金融署除以台灣史上最高的罰款是1.8億的美金當時提出他們有6大問題像內控不佳、疑似洗錢的匯款沒有申報\n或者是對客戶的實地查核不確實、封控政策不明、或者積核的寄報沒有依規定送總行又或者他漠視金融檢查報告不回應等等所以想要就是了解一下先問一下主委那今晚會有沒有去了解這個是不是有違反相關的一些法制\n他當然是有違反的缺失可是他不是真正的洗錢是他處理警示賬戶累積過多沒有及時依照香港金管局的規定去處理所以給予的處分所以是一個小缺失這不是真正的有一個交易是真正違反防止洗錢跟洗錢無關\n委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n到條件或有受到國內外主管機關財閥的情勢立即要以書面報告向財政部說明事件的經過處置的情形以及可能的影響那不知道財政部這個地方有沒有掌握到什麼\n有的。華南銀行確實有通報這個重大的事件也通報給財政部然後這個事情大概就是剛剛如主委所說的事實上是在107年以前的事情就是有關那個系統的有效驗證做不好以至於有關警示案件大量產生而且是華南銀行的香港分行主動去跟香港的金管局去自己去匯報的那所以呢那個\n那邊的金管局也要求他們要去改善那事實上也改善了也經過相關的委外的顧問經過改善是有效的這個部分都經過這樣的一個處理的好 謝謝部長那因為八大公股行庫在香港都設有分行所以這樣的一個個案呢我們還是需要是不是讓通報各個銀行看看他們有沒有違反香港的一些金管規定對吧\n是,我們一定會讓各個分行都要注意好,謝謝那再來請教一下我們金管會的主委請問您支不支持受險業降低海外投資佔比回台來抑制我國的產業發展我們的報告我們希望維持現狀但是維持現狀也可以同樣讓資金抑制我國的產業發展那跟主委報告\n我這樣聽,把我們的資金回流到臺灣其實大家都覺得是一個方向是一個目標,利益良善但是我們也看到很多的聲音只是擔憂如果是一次性的大量湧入\n會很擔心說會不會造成一些金融上的一個波動那舉個例子來講如果說國外投資總額從現在的45%下降到25%那我們去把它設算加計這個國際版債券的上限之後也就是說會從65.25%下降到36.25%\n那跟目前實際的佔比57.5%差距會到達21.25%如果去乘上受險資金總額如果以32兆來看那大概就是說會有6.8兆因為他超過上限所以他會立即的湧入到台灣\n那這個金額到底是怎麼樣的一個狀況那我們也看到有去試算如果以台灣史上最高單月的淨匯入金額在2023年的11月是3521億那這個6.8兆就會是史上最高的19.3倍請教一下主委就是它會造成什麼影響會讓台幣飆升嗎還是讓出口惡化\n我覺得這還不是直接的直接的就是這些保護的權益怎麼維護是這些投資出去是因為他的保單的年期跟收益力需要他要到國外投資那你回來如果沒有適當的標的如何保障保護的權益那請教就主委了對您也講到了為了要匹配我們的保單嘛那所以我們也會很想知道就是受險資金在台灣的可投資項目多不多\n委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n把資金回流到臺灣也是一個方向、一個目標所以我們也是希望說能夠逐步的移回那更重要的是我們比較期待能夠拓展一些可投資的一些國內項目像上次我們有提到其實長照機構我們就蠻希望有人來投資所以這個部分就是請我們的金管會就是務必要拿出一些做法、對策、態度\n主委您覺得呢?所以我們的目標方向就是跨年逐步下降嗎?\n我都有把我們整個的歷年來怎麼樣去協助都列出來在這個報告第8月、第9月成為委員參考。那我們會繼續努力。好,謝謝主委。那我們先回座。那請教一下那個部長,因為我們今天也有來談娛樂稅。是。\n那大家也都講了很多啦那我也就不再贅述不過我們的想法都是說從2007年修正到現在2024年真的啦整個狀況都不同光是我們看在疫情期間\n我們非常鼓勵去振興我們的藝文產業那現在電影院也都沒人去了其實我們是反過來去想要怎麼振興可是我們在2007年修正的時候像有一些保齡球館啊\n議員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復\n上一次的修正委員提案大概做了一些修正但是相對應的稅率那個部分並沒有做調整所以未來在修的時候可以一併的去把它做一個調整如同委員所說的這樣子才對所以會一併的來三處修正那另外一塊就是我們談到要針對一些稅務來去做一個處理的時候\n財政部的回答我聽到的大概都是說要聽地方政府的意見所以想要請教一下部長因為我們不太了解也許你很了解這個地方政府不同意到底他是因為在意他的稅收減少還是說他不希望這些稅務刪除想要繼續消滅這些迷你之音\n主要還是在於稅收的減少跟委員報告尤其在縣裡面他的鄉鎮市所收取的娛樂稅都是歸鄉鎮市這對鄉鎮市來說是非常重要的一個財源所以這個部分主要還是因為這個收入的問題是那\n我看到娛樂稅一年稅收大概19億,您覺得很多嗎?19億當然在地方來說某些部分還是對他們來說還是蠻重要的一個財源的,因為各個地方以鄉鎮來說這個錢很多\n所以呢歷年大家都過去都提出很多的解方嘛像是調高營業稅稅率或者做財化法的修正提高營業稅的統籌分貝又或者呢直接由中央編列預算補助併入奢侈稅開徵碳稅那地方政府開徵特別稅額我是在想這是大家提出的各種解方啦大概也不外乎這六種\n那聽起來最有可能的是中央編列預算補助一年19億那去分配一下那如果說要找到一些替代財源也不難啊像國產署也經常做清理的案件或者是稅收增加的財源等等所以在這個地方可不可以請部長您6選1\n委員報告這6項當然我們都要可以去演繹它各有它的一個問題在裡面我們歷年看到你們的回應都我們大概也都了解總是要6選1的話你選哪一個我想這個不是說我這邊在這邊選我覺得我們應該必須好好的討論跟來做一個演繹是\n是跟地方政府討論?當然地方政府,然後再加上我們中央裡面也要跟立委討論啦,立委當然是非常重要的事我是這樣覺得喔部長,因為我們的新政府要上任啦那賴清德總統他也提到文化建國的理念\n所以我們真的是希望說把一些屬於藝文產業類的真的是可以拿掉了啦那如果真的覺得有一些是屬於高消費行為奢侈的那留著沒有關係但是總是要做一些改變好不好促進這些產業的發展好不好好那謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝吳麗華委員接著我們請鄭天才委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.109 --> 00:04.094\n主席好,有請財政部金管會,謝謝。\n\n00:11.075 --> 00:39.103\n委員好部長好主委好前幾天4月19號的新聞我們有看到販工股的華南銀行香港分行它違反了洗錢的規定遭到當地政府開罰了3680萬那照理說財政部台銀有共同持股可是我們看財政部的新聞稿專區\n\n00:40.743 --> 01:09.313\n好像沒看到,隻字不提那儘管會作為我國金融監理機構我們的銀行遭到他國銀行的監理機構綜合裁法在新聞專區也是沒有看到所以在這邊就是想要了解一下華南銀行遭到香港政府的一個綜合裁法他是政治問題呢還是他們的一個疏失\n\n01:12.054 --> 01:35.085\n20162016年趙鋒銀行紐約分行當時違反洗錢防治法遭到紐約州的金融署除以台灣史上最高的罰款是1.8億的美金當時提出他們有6大問題像內控不佳、疑似洗錢的匯款沒有申報\n\n01:36.286 --> 02:02.936\n或者是對客戶的實地查核不確實、封控政策不明、或者積核的寄報沒有依規定送總行又或者他漠視金融檢查報告不回應等等所以想要就是了解一下先問一下主委那今晚會有沒有去了解這個是不是有違反相關的一些法制\n\n02:04.445 --> 02:24.219\n他當然是有違反的缺失可是他不是真正的洗錢是他處理警示賬戶累積過多沒有及時依照香港金管局的規定去處理所以給予的處分所以是一個小缺失這不是真正的有一個交易是真正違反防止洗錢跟洗錢無關\n\n02:25.520 --> 02:26.701\n委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n\n02:41.053 --> 02:59.987\n到條件或有受到國內外主管機關財閥的情勢立即要以書面報告向財政部說明事件的經過處置的情形以及可能的影響那不知道財政部這個地方有沒有掌握到什麼\n\n03:01.244 --> 03:25.094\n有的。華南銀行確實有通報這個重大的事件也通報給財政部然後這個事情大概就是剛剛如主委所說的事實上是在107年以前的事情就是有關那個系統的有效驗證做不好以至於有關警示案件大量產生而且是華南銀行的香港分行主動去跟香港的金管局去自己去匯報的那所以呢那個\n\n03:26.314 --> 03:38.117\n那邊的金管局也要求他們要去改善那事實上也改善了也經過相關的委外的顧問經過改善是有效的這個部分都經過這樣的一個處理的好謝謝部長那因為八大公股行庫在香港都設有分行所以這樣的一個個案呢我們還是需要是不是讓通報各個銀行看看他們有沒有違反香港的一些金管規定對吧\n\n03:53.121 --> 04:18.946\n是,我們一定會讓各個分行都要注意好,謝謝那再來請教一下我們金管會的主委請問您支不支持受險業降低海外投資佔比回台來抑制我國的產業發展我們的報告我們希望維持現狀但是維持現狀也可以同樣讓資金抑制我國的產業發展那跟主委報告\n\n04:20.758 --> 04:39.024\n我這樣聽,把我們的資金回流到臺灣其實大家都覺得是一個方向是一個目標,利益良善但是我們也看到很多的聲音只是擔憂如果是一次性的大量湧入\n\n04:40.144 --> 04:52.714\n會很擔心說會不會造成一些金融上的一個波動那舉個例子來講如果說國外投資總額從現在的45%下降到25%那我們去把它設算加計這個國際版債券的上限之後也就是說會從65.25%下降到36.25%\n\n05:05.484 --> 05:26.897\n那跟目前實際的佔比57.5%差距會到達21.25%如果去乘上受險資金總額如果以32兆來看那大概就是說會有6.8兆因為他超過上限所以他會立即的湧入到台灣\n\n05:27.978 --> 05:53.607\n那這個金額到底是怎麼樣的一個狀況那我們也看到有去試算如果以台灣史上最高單月的淨匯入金額在2023年的11月是3521億那這個6.8兆就會是史上最高的19.3倍請教一下主委就是它會造成什麼影響會讓台幣飆升嗎還是讓出口惡化\n\n05:56.604 --> 06:21.431\n我覺得這還不是直接的直接的就是這些保護的權益怎麼維護是這些投資出去是因為他的保單的年期跟收益力需要他要到國外投資那你回來如果沒有適當的標的如何保障保護的權益那請教就主委了對您也講到了為了要匹配我們的保單嘛那所以我們也會很想知道就是受險資金在台灣的可投資項目多不多\n\n06:24.656 --> 06:26.538\n委員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復議\n\n06:42.432 --> 07:08.919\n把資金回流到臺灣也是一個方向、一個目標所以我們也是希望說能夠逐步的移回那更重要的是我們比較期待能夠拓展一些可投資的一些國內項目像上次我們有提到其實長照機構我們就蠻希望有人來投資所以這個部分就是請我們的金管會就是務必要拿出一些做法、對策、態度\n\n07:10.779 --> 07:12.160\n主委您覺得呢?所以我們的目標方向就是跨年逐步下降嗎?\n\n07:31.555 --> 07:46.108\n我都有把我們整個的歷年來怎麼樣去協助都列出來在這個報告第8月、第9月成為委員參考。那我們會繼續努力。好,謝謝主委。那我們先回座。那請教一下那個部長,因為我們今天也有來談娛樂稅。是。\n\n07:48.430 --> 08:03.740\n那大家也都講了很多啦那我也就不再贅述不過我們的想法都是說從2007年修正到現在2024年真的啦整個狀況都不同光是我們看在疫情期間\n\n08:04.761 --> 08:22.475\n我們非常鼓勵去振興我們的藝文產業那現在電影院也都沒人去了其實我們是反過來去想要怎麼振興可是我們在2007年修正的時候像有一些保齡球館啊\n\n08:23.135 --> 08:24.957\n議員王世堅等23人提案須經各黨團簽署不復\n\n08:40.957 --> 09:00.606\n上一次的修正委員提案大概做了一些修正但是相對應的稅率那個部分並沒有做調整所以未來在修的時候可以一併的去把它做一個調整如同委員所說的這樣子才對所以會一併的來三處修正那另外一塊就是我們談到要針對一些稅務來去做一個處理的時候\n\n09:06.224 --> 09:29.361\n財政部的回答我聽到的大概都是說要聽地方政府的意見所以想要請教一下部長因為我們不太了解也許你很了解這個地方政府不同意到底他是因為在意他的稅收減少還是說他不希望這些稅務刪除想要繼續消滅這些迷你之音\n\n09:31.495 --> 09:45.713\n主要還是在於稅收的減少跟委員報告尤其在縣裡面他的鄉鎮市所收取的娛樂稅都是歸鄉鎮市這對鄉鎮市來說是非常重要的一個財源所以這個部分主要還是因為這個收入的問題是那\n\n09:48.776 --> 10:02.709\n我看到娛樂稅一年稅收大概19億,您覺得很多嗎?19億當然在地方來說某些部分還是對他們來說還是蠻重要的一個財源的,因為各個地方以鄉鎮來說這個錢很多\n\n10:04.411 --> 10:32.536\n所以呢歷年大家都過去都提出很多的解方嘛像是調高營業稅稅率或者做財化法的修正提高營業稅的統籌分貝又或者呢直接由中央編列預算補助併入奢侈稅開徵碳稅那地方政府開徵特別稅額我是在想這是大家提出的各種解方啦大概也不外乎這六種\n\n10:33.376 --> 10:53.293\n那聽起來最有可能的是中央編列預算補助一年19億那去分配一下那如果說要找到一些替代財源也不難啊像國產署也經常做清理的案件或者是稅收增加的財源等等所以在這個地方可不可以請部長您6選1\n\n10:56.894 --> 11:11.599\n委員報告這6項當然我們都要可以去演繹它各有它的一個問題在裡面我們歷年看到你們的回應都我們大概也都了解總是要6選1的話你選哪一個我想這個不是說我這邊在這邊選我覺得我們應該必須好好的討論跟來做一個演繹是\n\n11:16.161 --> 11:33.162\n是跟地方政府討論?當然地方政府,然後再加上我們中央裡面也要跟立委討論啦,立委當然是非常重要的事我是這樣覺得喔部長,因為我們的新政府要上任啦那賴清德總統他也提到文化建國的理念\n\n11:34.443 --> 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