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00:03:37,344\n降低了這個這個個案爛數是不是有效的降低啦齁那我就就檢視我們這個我們地方法我就地方法院的民事案件的終結數啦齁來來看從一百這個這個我現在列表這個是103年開始但是我只我們就只看一百一百一十年修法之後的這三年這三年我們這個\n\n10\n00:03:40,310 --> 00:03:48,173\n幾乎還是年年增長112年增加到增加了30萬件這個增加了將近7%那111年相對於110年將增加了9%也就是說我這樣子我看這個數字來講我們110110年的這個修法有關個案爛速的民事訴訟法\n\n11\n00:04:09,572 --> 00:04:14,223\n249條的修法事實上看起來好像並沒有達到我們想要的效果,是不是?\n\n12\n00:04:16,198 --> 00:04:38,307\n這個只是訴訟案件的一部分而已像現在增加很多不是屬於這個範圍的所以這個畢竟還是屬於一部分而已可以說是一部分這個當然這個案件是增加這個案件量增加有很多因素\n\n13\n00:04:39,528 --> 00:04:59,374\n那我要講的只是說110年的修法之後顯然我們說我們有針對這個我們做的這個修法但這個修法他事實上成效非常有限成效非常其實成效非常有限一小部分而已很小部分多小部分呢我們實際看看你真正這三年來就從110年3月開始到111年我這統計到113年的2月統計到今年2月\n\n14\n00:05:08,154 --> 00:05:25,258\n我們整個這個民事整個有關民事訴訟法的部分有有這個個案爛數的駁回的總共這樣子三年時間只有288件了也就是我們這修法的效益在三年之內只有288件那實際249條之一進行裁罰的總共全個三年全國才53件了\n\n15\n00:05:37,420 --> 00:06:02,081\n53件裡面臺北地方法院就佔了14件扣掉之後幾乎幾乎這個修法簡單講這個修法裁罰我想這個成效基本上是非常低的啦這個秘書長是說明一下像士林地方法院這個算是案件量相當大的他整個三年來進行裁罰的才一件\n\n16\n00:06:02,688 --> 00:06:17,422\n因為這種修法他有他積極面啦就當事人他看到這個修法之後他也會盡量避免去提出來所以所以這個這個一部分也達到惡質的功效惡質功效\n\n17\n00:06:19,284 --> 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秘書長早我想這個今天本會安排這個議程\n最主要就是在近期大家非常關注有關於4月12號有法官墜樓以及後續的白花運動也在2月的時候有書記官過勞死的問題\n那因此我想這樣的相關的議題這些事情其實就國人來講大家是真的是同感悲欺但是我們司法院作為我們這個我們司法的最高的機構我想對於相關的問題我們應該是\n應該是要有所,第一要對社會有所回應第二我們應該也要有所作為一方面我們要滿足於這個社會對於這個司法爭議的要求另外一方面我們也要注重到我們這個\n司法從業人員的這個相關的這些目前的這個業務量過大的這個問題我想我們都應該司法機關責無旁貸司法院責無旁貸那這個我看了你們的這個這個書面報告也看了很多裡面有提到就是說是意思大概就是說我們司法院過去有做比如說我們提出來的最主要的一件事情就是我們這個\n110年的1月我們針對民事訴訟法249條我們做了修訂修訂了249條第8款跟增訂了249條之一的這個裁罰的條文最主要就是我們針對這個\n249條第8項是規定可以裁定駁回那249條之一就明定\n加以裁罰啦齁那這個這個這樣子的修法立法當然就是其實簡單講就是要避免降低這個個案爛數的數目嘛對不對是這樣子嘛但是我們就就如果說這個是我們我們在訴訟報告我們也提了這個部分就意思說我們過去有做了這個但是我們就要看說那修法之後這個修法到底是不是有有有效的\n降低了這個這個個案爛數是不是有效的降低啦齁那我就就檢視我們這個我們地方法我就地方法院的民事案件的終結數啦齁來來看從一百這個這個我現在列表這個是103年開始但是我只我們就只看一百一百一十年修法之後的這三年這三年我們這個\n幾乎還是年年增長112年增加到增加了30萬件這個增加了將近7%那111年相對於110年將增加了9%也就是說我這樣子我看這個數字來講我們110110年的這個修法有關個案爛速的民事訴訟法\n249條的修法事實上看起來好像並沒有達到我們想要的效果,是不是?\n這個只是訴訟案件的一部分而已像現在增加很多不是屬於這個範圍的所以這個畢竟還是屬於一部分而已可以說是一部分這個當然這個案件是增加這個案件量增加有很多因素\n那我要講的只是說110年的修法之後顯然我們說我們有針對這個我們做的這個修法但這個修法他事實上成效非常有限成效非常其實成效非常有限一小部分而已很小部分多小部分呢我們實際看看你真正這三年來就從110年3月開始到111年我這統計到113年的2月統計到今年2月\n我們整個這個民事整個有關民事訴訟法的部分有有這個個案爛數的駁回的總共這樣子三年時間只有288件了也就是我們這修法的效益在三年之內只有288件那實際249條之一進行裁罰的總共全個三年全國才53件了\n53件裡面臺北地方法院就佔了14件扣掉之後幾乎幾乎這個修法簡單講這個修法裁罰我想這個成效基本上是非常低的啦這個秘書長是說明一下像士林地方法院這個算是案件量相當大的他整個三年來進行裁罰的才一件\n因為這種修法他有他積極面啦就當事人他看到這個修法之後他也會盡量避免去提出來所以所以這個這個一部分也達到惡質的功效惡質功效\n有,這個秘書長意思說除了這個數字,這個數字是發生了,包括駁回的,包括裁罰的,這個之外,還有一些在心理上就惡煮。就惡煮了。惡煮了他們這個個案濫訴的狀況。就是有修法他就會有明文規定了。有啦,我沒有反對修法,我只是講說,這個修法事實上看起來,我個人看起來是認為說成效其實,\n其實就我們目前的司法人員的工作量來講成效是相當小啦最重要的也是你們在書面報告裡面一再提的其實最重要的是人力需求的增加啦對不對人力需求就是案件而且環雜度增加了社會變遷環雜度是一個啦那你們基本上就認為人力不足這個也是一個很重要這個是一個一個\n一個很重要而且蠻根本的原因啦蠻根本的原因但是我看你們的目前的這個我們司法院的所屬機關人力的法定員額的上限是一萬五千人一萬五千人對不對我們的法定員額上限是是是那我們現在已經達到多少\n現在一百十三年度的預算緣額我們實際上的預算緣額達到多少一萬四千一萬四千五百零八人就剩下四百九十二個名額而已基本上是緊繃了啦緊繃啦緊繃就算讓你補到所謂法定緣額上限\n沈發惠\n司法第一步要趕快去解決這個總原額法你要跟人事行政總署要趕快先解決這個問題解決了之後才有後面人力需求到底可以補不能補的問題嗎報告委員那因為這主政的法規主政機關是人事行政總署對人事行政我就說你們要盡快的跟人事而且在現在社會大家有共識對於法對於這個這個我們我們司法從\n這個從業人員的這個工作量有共識的時候我覺得這是我們司法院就應該要展現這個態度就從總原額法這個部分先來調整調整之後才有人力需求能不能補足的問題你第一關都沒有過你要五千多人欸是是五千多人你們現在原額只剩下五百多人的原額欸所以很謝謝委員啊這個是最重要的一點所以司法院現在要做的當務之急首要之急當務之急就是跟人事行政總署就\n謝謝 非常謝謝\n接著除了人力需求以外我看你們報告也提到說透過行政簡化訴訟減量用科技降低基層司法體系負擔之成效有關裁判書簡化的部分你們也研議了裁判書簡化的方式到目前為止進度怎麼樣\n這個就這幾年來就列為重點啦那這當然涉及到裡面我們裡面的同仁也要朝這個方向一起來努力啦不是努力啦你們這個有關裁判書簡化你們應該有一些制式的規定的制式的什麼樣可以朝什麼樣的方向簡化不然你要法官個人自己現在去簡化裁判書\n報告委員,所以我們在上個月25號舉辦的所長會議我們有三個廳,民事、刑事、刑程廳就有會前也經過好幾個月時間研擬各種簡化原則還有參考範例作為一個遵行的指引發布了嗎?發布給這些法官嗎?現在開始實施你們所謂簡化的判決書的\n的這個相關的這個相關的這個格式你們已經有\n都在所長會議都正式發布了正式發布了那目前實施上面就這些就目前的法官他們有依照我們所制定的這些新的這些規範來進行裁判書的簡化嗎所以我們一定要加強來宣導我知道你們要加強啦我今天在這裡意思就是要你加強啦這個這些齁其實手段我們都已經\n沈發惠\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.842 --> 00:28.944\n主席我們先請司法院秘書長好請秘書長好秘書長早我想這個今天本會安排這個議程\n\n00:30.987 --> 00:47.057\n最主要就是在近期大家非常關注有關於4月12號有法官墜樓以及後續的白花運動也在2月的時候有書記官過勞死的問題\n\n00:52.148 --> 01:15.409\n那因此我想這樣的相關的議題這些事情其實就國人來講大家是真的是同感悲欺但是我們司法院作為我們這個我們司法的最高的機構我想對於相關的問題我們應該是\n\n01:18.409 --> 01:34.346\n應該是要有所,第一要對社會有所回應第二我們應該也要有所作為一方面我們要滿足於這個社會對於這個司法爭議的要求另外一方面我們也要注重到我們這個\n\n01:36.115 --> 02:02.536\n司法從業人員的這個相關的這些目前的這個業務量過大的這個問題我想我們都應該司法機關責無旁貸司法院責無旁貸那這個我看了你們的這個這個書面報告也看了很多裡面有提到就是說是意思大概就是說我們司法院過去有做比如說我們提出來的最主要的一件事情就是我們這個\n\n02:04.057 --> 02:07.501\n110年的1月我們針對民事訴訟法249條我們做了修訂修訂了249條第8款跟增訂了249條之一的這個裁罰的條文最主要就是我們針對這個\n\n02:24.275 --> 02:26.977\n249條第8項是規定可以裁定駁回那249條之一就明定\n\n02:47.799 --> 03:12.875\n加以裁罰啦齁那這個這個這樣子的修法立法當然就是其實簡單講就是要避免降低這個個案爛數的數目嘛對不對是這樣子嘛但是我們就就如果說這個是我們我們在訴訟報告我們也提了這個部分就意思說我們過去有做了這個但是我們就要看說那修法之後這個修法到底是不是有有有效的\n\n03:13.905 --> 03:37.344\n降低了這個這個個案爛數是不是有效的降低啦齁那我就就檢視我們這個我們地方法我就地方法院的民事案件的終結數啦齁來來看從一百這個這個我現在列表這個是103年開始但是我只我們就只看一百一百一十年修法之後的這三年這三年我們這個\n\n03:40.310 --> 03:48.173\n幾乎還是年年增長112年增加到增加了30萬件這個增加了將近7%那111年相對於110年將增加了9%也就是說我這樣子我看這個數字來講我們110110年的這個修法有關個案爛速的民事訴訟法\n\n04:09.572 --> 04:14.223\n249條的修法事實上看起來好像並沒有達到我們想要的效果,是不是?\n\n04:16.198 --> 04:38.307\n這個只是訴訟案件的一部分而已像現在增加很多不是屬於這個範圍的所以這個畢竟還是屬於一部分而已可以說是一部分這個當然這個案件是增加這個案件量增加有很多因素\n\n04:39.528 --> 04:59.374\n那我要講的只是說110年的修法之後顯然我們說我們有針對這個我們做的這個修法但這個修法他事實上成效非常有限成效非常其實成效非常有限一小部分而已很小部分多小部分呢我們實際看看你真正這三年來就從110年3月開始到111年我這統計到113年的2月統計到今年2月\n\n05:08.154 --> 05:25.258\n我們整個這個民事整個有關民事訴訟法的部分有有這個個案爛數的駁回的總共這樣子三年時間只有288件了也就是我們這修法的效益在三年之內只有288件那實際249條之一進行裁罰的總共全個三年全國才53件了\n\n05:37.420 --> 06:02.081\n53件裡面臺北地方法院就佔了14件扣掉之後幾乎幾乎這個修法簡單講這個修法裁罰我想這個成效基本上是非常低的啦這個秘書長是說明一下像士林地方法院這個算是案件量相當大的他整個三年來進行裁罰的才一件\n\n06:02.688 --> 06:17.422\n因為這種修法他有他積極面啦就當事人他看到這個修法之後他也會盡量避免去提出來所以所以這個這個一部分也達到惡質的功效惡質功效\n\n06:19.284 --> 06:41.646\n有,這個秘書長意思說除了這個數字,這個數字是發生了,包括駁回的,包括裁罰的,這個之外,還有一些在心理上就惡煮。就惡煮了。惡煮了他們這個個案濫訴的狀況。就是有修法他就會有明文規定了。有啦,我沒有反對修法,我只是講說,這個修法事實上看起來,我個人看起來是認為說成效其實,\n\n06:43.109 --> 07:10.859\n其實就我們目前的司法人員的工作量來講成效是相當小啦最重要的也是你們在書面報告裡面一再提的其實最重要的是人力需求的增加啦對不對人力需求就是案件而且環雜度增加了社會變遷環雜度是一個啦那你們基本上就認為人力不足這個也是一個很重要這個是一個一個\n\n07:11.539 --> 07:27.901\n一個很重要而且蠻根本的原因啦蠻根本的原因但是我看你們的目前的這個我們司法院的所屬機關人力的法定員額的上限是一萬五千人一萬五千人對不對我們的法定員額上限是是是那我們現在已經達到多少\n\n07:29.222 --> 07:43.588\n現在一百十三年度的預算緣額我們實際上的預算緣額達到多少一萬四千一萬四千五百零八人就剩下四百九十二個名額而已基本上是緊繃了啦緊繃啦緊繃就算讓你補到所謂法定緣額上限\n\n07:48.595 --> 07:48.715\n沈發惠\n\n08:12.273 --> 08:34.163\n司法第一步要趕快去解決這個總原額法你要跟人事行政總署要趕快先解決這個問題解決了之後才有後面人力需求到底可以補不能補的問題嗎報告委員那因為這主政的法規主政機關是人事行政總署對人事行政我就說你們要盡快的跟人事而且在現在社會大家有共識對於法對於這個這個我們我們司法從\n\n08:38.345 --> 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