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00:03:18,504\n今天如果真的覺得死刑要被廢除那也應該回到國會讓國會來立法廢除現在大法官全部都是民進黨提名的啦請問民意基礎在哪裡憑什麼今天少數而且是代退大法官這大法官你這麼長的任期你要廢除死刑早點廢啦\n\n8\n00:03:20,663 --> 00:03:27,145\n你到準備要這個所謂的要卸任了神龍百尾啊稀釋回眸啊什麼意思啊我這邊也鄭重宣布今天大法官如果侵犯立法背叛民意本席不會接受啊\n\n9\n00:03:40,680 --> 00:04:03,611\n我在大安區參選立法委員我的政見就是我反對廢除死刑我代表反對廢除死刑名義進到立法院以後今天對於所謂的大法官侵犯立法權來去廢除死刑的話我無法接受將來在立法的時候我想請問部長大法官一旦作出死刑違憲的判決之後接下來會要怎麼辦\n\n10\n00:04:04,963 --> 00:04:23,381\n接下來怎麼辦我們有準備各種方案就看大法官最後憲法法院怎麼做解釋我們都有事先都預擬好了如果說是違憲呢我們有應對的方法什麼應對方法有各種方法什麼各種方法\n\n11\n00:04:25,362 --> 00:04:47,378\n部長抱歉喔我對你都一直很尊敬喔你今天不要在這邊損及我對你的尊敬喔具體的方法是什麼你不能告訴我嗎具體的方法如果他認為該怎麼樣我們就怎麼樣嘛什麼叫該怎麼樣怎麼樣他說你死刑違憲啊我直接說啦接下來立法院就要配合修法對不對\n\n12\n00:04:48,769 --> 00:05:17,654\n按照憲法按照這個所謂的大法官如果認為違憲的話立法院要配合修法把所有死刑全部廢掉是不是這個意思呃看他最後的解釋文怎麼樣該修法我直接告訴我直接告訴部長我絕對不會配合修法啦今天我會說民進黨的立委你敢配合修法嗎我要事先都講了今天廢除死刑是崩潰我們社會法治的基礎啊\n\n13\n00:05:19,242 --> 00:05:44,203\n在這邊我跟你講我今天用這些話雖然講得重我是為大法官好我正怕今天憲法法庭的辯論真正人民的聲音他沒有聽進去他沒有聽進去這麼重大的憲政爭議過去大法官解釋死刑合不合憲請問部長過去的解釋是合憲的答對了\n\n14\n00:05:45,103 --> 00:06:06,342\n你今天要來挑戰過去的大法官挑戰當前八成的民意挑戰立法院的憲政尊嚴羅智強是不會退讓的啦將來如果進到立法院要配合修法我第一個反對修法啦你要做憲政危機、憲政僵局、憲政爭議大法官我跟你對著幹啦我講白就是這麼一回事\n\n15\n00:06:11,263 --> 00:06:34,830\n昨天聽到這句話我非常的不爽啊什麼叫做一定要跟民意妥協你是上帝嗎?你是上帝嗎?前面的憲法的四憲講得清清楚楚合憲現在的八成民意反對廢除死刑而法務部也告訴大家要廢除死刑應該由立法決定三重侵犯\n\n16\n00:06:36,972 --> 00:06:51,317\n還沒有把這個憲法法庭的最後的解釋出來我在這邊只是先做預告真的拜託拜託拜託拜託拜託再拜託我們大法官好好傾聽這些被害者的聲音啊\n\n17\n00:06:53,527 --> 00:07:10,352\n這些被害者在家屬在暗處哭泣的聲音請他們聽一聽這八成民意強烈的反對請他們聽一聽立法院的憲政尊嚴請他們聽一聽過去大法官認為死刑核限的這些前輩們的聲音請這些大法官聽一聽如果真的硬著幹我跟你講就是憲政危機第二個我就要問我們的法官過豪的問題\n\n18\n00:07:23,666 --> 00:07:49,590\n非常沉痛今天必須用一個法官一個書記官的生命來去告訴大家今天法官過了現在我們的司法你可以看到案件大幅增加是不是秘書長大幅增加我們2016到2023年地方法院受理案件數從308萬增加到391萬\n\n19\n00:07:53,719 --> 00:08:03,702\n漲幅27%耶那我想請教齁我們現在的法官他是從2016的2071人變成2196人只成長6%請問秘書長這些法官過去這麼多年來的過勞的心聲我們的司法院有掌握嗎\n\n20\n00:08:19,676 --> 00:08:35,849\n因為我們也是遵行總言而華,那這中間我們當然一直極力在爭取,一直爭取。我要跟各位說,去年司法院在立法院報告的時候是希望把員額提高到22000人嘛,對不對?是,是。\n\n21\n00:08:37,492 --> 00:09:04,725\n這是以10年期的期程來報告來估算那今天的報告是說預算是估算需求差5536人那我想請問司法院如果以短中期3到5年來看需要多少人大概我們目前是期盼我就是提出來這個5536人我跟秘書長說今天司法過了痛苦的不只是司法人員\n\n22\n00:09:06,331 --> 00:09:26,027\n其實對於訴訟當事人也是如此因為他會降低司法的裁判品質你今天就讓司法人面臨兩難嘛一個就壓榨生命跟身體嘛對不對那另外一個就是讓案件的訴訟品質下降這兩件事情對司法對全國官都不是好事情\n\n23\n00:09:26,755 --> 00:09:48,981\n所以在這邊我知道上一屆委員有提案但因為新國會藉其不連續的關係所以上一屆的一些相關法要重新提出我這邊也說我願意當我們的基層司法人員的後盾所以對於中央政府機關總原額法第4條修正案提高第三類司法院及所屬機關職員的原額上限\n\n24\n00:09:49,641 --> 00:10:15,265\n這部分我已經擬好了也會開始連述希望我們一起共同的來終結司法過勞改善司法品質就從修法開始所以也希望說今天我們的行政部門特別其他包括人事行政總署、考試院權序部還有法務部相關的單位其實司法官過勞不只是法官而已對不對部長也包括檢察官\n\n25\n00:10:16,804 --> 00:10:39,145\n對檢察官就是司法官還包括了輔助人力檢察事務官還有包括書記官、法警都是我們要注意要考量其實檢察機關也非常辛苦我覺得案件減量可能不只是透過員額而已還有包括說今天怎麼讓案件更親自分工這個部分我也會提出一些意見提供法務部參考以上\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9286\t30678\t主席有請我們的部長跟秘書長請吳秘書長和蔡部長委員好部長在來談法官過勞之前有一個非常重大的題目我要來就教於你\n31704\t35425\t這是大法官的見解我們予以尊重\n58891\t87045\t我要跟部長說過去我們在司法法制委員會我非常敬佩部長知道為什麼嗎我看到我們榮介修會很多委員質詢死刑的問題我覺得言者尊尊啊大法官聽者渺渺啊你那時候有講到八成的民意反對廢除死刑是不是我們有了解到這個趨勢對然後也提出要司法自治嘛對不對\n88910\t117734\t這句話不是我說的我有看到你們法務部有談到至少你們講要尊重立法權嘛 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是崩潰我們社會法治的基礎啊\n319242\t344203\t在這邊我跟你講我今天用這些話雖然講得重我是為大法官好我正怕今天憲法法庭的辯論真正人民的聲音他沒有聽進去他沒有聽進去這麼重大的憲政爭議過去大法官解釋死刑合不合憲請問部長過去的解釋是合憲的答對了\n345103\t366342\t你今天要來挑戰過去的大法官挑戰當前八成的民意挑戰立法院的憲政尊嚴羅智強是不會退讓的啦將來如果進到立法院要配合修法我第一個反對修法啦你要做憲政危機、憲政僵局、憲政爭議大法官我跟你對著幹啦我講白就是這麼一回事\n371263\t394830\t昨天聽到這句話我非常的不爽啊什麼叫做一定要跟民意妥協你是上帝嗎?你是上帝嗎?前面的憲法的四憲講得清清楚楚合憲現在的八成民意反對廢除死刑而法務部也告訴大家要廢除死刑應該由立法決定三重侵犯\n396972\t411317\t還沒有把這個憲法法庭的最後的解釋出來我在這邊只是先做預告真的拜託拜託拜託拜託拜託再拜託我們大法官好好傾聽這些被害者的聲音啊\n413527\t430352\t這些被害者在家屬在暗處哭泣的聲音請他們聽一聽這八成民意強烈的反對請他們聽一聽立法院的憲政尊嚴請他們聽一聽過去大法官認為死刑核限的這些前輩們的聲音請這些大法官聽一聽如果真的硬著幹我跟你講就是憲政危機第二個我就要問我們的法官過豪的問題\n443666\t469590\t非常沉痛今天必須用一個法官一個書記官的生命來去告訴大家今天法官過了現在我們的司法你可以看到案件大幅增加是不是秘書長大幅增加我們2016到2023年地方法院受理案件數從308萬增加到391萬\n473719\t483702\t漲幅27%耶那我想請教齁我們現在的法官他是從2016的2071人變成2196人只成長6%請問秘書長這些法官過去這麼多年來的過勞的心聲我們的司法院有掌握嗎\n499676\t515849\t因為我們也是遵行總言而華,那這中間我們當然一直極力在爭取,一直爭取。我要跟各位說,去年司法院在立法院報告的時候是希望把員額提高到22000人嘛,對不對?是,是。\n517492\t544725\t這是以10年期的期程來報告來估算那今天的報告是說預算是估算需求差5536人那我想請問司法院如果以短中期3到5年來看需要多少人大概我們目前是期盼我就是提出來這個5536人我跟秘書長說今天司法過了痛苦的不只是司法人員\n546331\t566027\t其實對於訴訟當事人也是如此因為他會降低司法的裁判品質你今天就讓司法人面臨兩難嘛一個就壓榨生命跟身體嘛 對不對那另外一個就是讓案件的訴訟品質下降這兩件事情對司法對全國官都不是好事情\n566755\t588981\t所以在這邊我知道上一屆委員有提案但因為新國會藉其不連續的關係所以上一屆的一些相關法要重新提出我這邊也說我願意當我們的基層司法人員的後盾所以對於中央政府機關總原額法第4條修正案提高第三類司法院及所屬機關職員的原額上限\n589641\t615265\t這部分我已經擬好了也會開始連述希望我們一起共同的來終結司法過勞改善司法品質就從修法開始所以也希望說今天我們的行政部門特別其他包括人事行政總署、考試院權序部還有法務部相關的單位其實司法官過勞不只是法官而已對不對部長也包括檢察官\n616804\t639145\t對 檢察官就是司法官還包括了輔助人力檢察事務官還有包括書記官、法警都是我們要注意要考量其實檢察機關也非常辛苦我覺得案件減量可能不只是透過員額而已還有包括說今天怎麼讓案件更親自分工這個部分我也會提出一些意見提供法務部參考 以上\n","txt":"主席有請我們的部長跟秘書長請吳秘書長和蔡部長委員好部長在來談法官過勞之前有一個非常重大的題目我要來就教於你\n這是大法官的見解我們予以尊重\n我要跟部長說過去我們在司法法制委員會我非常敬佩部長知道為什麼嗎我看到我們榮介修會很多委員質詢死刑的問題我覺得言者尊尊啊大法官聽者渺渺啊你那時候有講到八成的民意反對廢除死刑是不是我們有了解到這個趨勢對然後也提出要司法自治嘛對不對\n這句話不是我說的我有看到你們法務部有談到至少你們講要尊重立法權嘛 對不對沒錯吧我們認為應該尊重代表民意的立法機關答對阿 非常好阿可是今天我要非常不客氣的說大法官問出這句話一定要跟民意妥協嗎那不就是大法官已經透露他的新政了\n今天他就是要跟民意對著幹了嗎我這邊也要說今天法務部代表今天說真的大法官這個所謂的死刑的辯論好像只剩下法務部今天能夠代表跟大法官部這個所推的一些所有的一些意見不相同的一個意見能夠代表八成民意就是剩下法務部啦是嗎\n我們一貫的立場就是尊重法律的規定現行的死刑規定我們的立場就認為是合憲的我要在這邊特別跟部長說一件事也跟我們的司法院的秘書長說一件事情大法官不是上帝啦大法官如果司法過動本身就是一種違憲的一個行為今天八成以上的民意反對廢除死刑我非常認同法務部說的\n今天如果真的覺得死刑要被廢除那也應該回到國會讓國會來立法廢除現在大法官全部都是民進黨提名的啦請問民意基礎在哪裡憑什麼今天少數而且是代退大法官這大法官你這麼長的任期你要廢除死刑早點廢啦\n你到準備要這個所謂的要卸任了神龍百尾啊稀釋回眸啊什麼意思啊我這邊也鄭重宣布今天大法官如果侵犯立法背叛民意本席不會接受啊\n我在大安區參選立法委員我的政見就是我反對廢除死刑我代表反對廢除死刑名義進到立法院以後今天對於所謂的大法官侵犯立法權來去廢除死刑的話我無法接受將來在立法的時候我想請問部長大法官一旦作出死刑違憲的判決之後接下來會要怎麼辦\n接下來怎麼辦我們有準備各種方案就看大法官最後憲法法院怎麼做解釋我們都有事先都預擬好了如果說是違憲呢我們有應對的方法什麼應對方法有各種方法什麼各種方法\n部長抱歉喔我對你都一直很尊敬喔你今天不要在這邊損及我對你的尊敬喔具體的方法是什麼你不能告訴我嗎具體的方法如果他認為該怎麼樣我們就怎麼樣嘛什麼叫該怎麼樣怎麼樣他說你死刑違憲啊我直接說啦接下來立法院就要配合修法對不對\n按照憲法 按照這個所謂的大法官如果認為違憲的話立法院要配合修法 把所有死刑全部廢掉 是不是這個意思呃 看他最後的解釋文怎麼樣 該修法我直接告訴 我直接告訴部長我絕對不會配合修法啦今天我會說民進黨的立委 你敢配合修法嗎我要事先都講了今天廢除死刑 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是崩潰我們社會法治的基礎啊"},{"start":319.242,"end":344.203,"text":"在這邊我跟你講我今天用這些話雖然講得重我是為大法官好我正怕今天憲法法庭的辯論真正人民的聲音他沒有聽進去他沒有聽進去這麼重大的憲政爭議過去大法官解釋死刑合不合憲請問部長過去的解釋是合憲的答對了"},{"start":345.103,"end":366.342,"text":"你今天要來挑戰過去的大法官挑戰當前八成的民意挑戰立法院的憲政尊嚴羅智強是不會退讓的啦將來如果進到立法院要配合修法我第一個反對修法啦你要做憲政危機、憲政僵局、憲政爭議大法官我跟你對著幹啦我講白就是這麼一回事"},{"start":371.263,"end":394.83,"text":"昨天聽到這句話我非常的不爽啊什麼叫做一定要跟民意妥協你是上帝嗎?你是上帝嗎?前面的憲法的四憲講得清清楚楚合憲現在的八成民意反對廢除死刑而法務部也告訴大家要廢除死刑應該由立法決定三重侵犯"},{"start":396.972,"end":411.317,"text":"還沒有把這個憲法法庭的最後的解釋出來我在這邊只是先做預告真的拜託拜託拜託拜託拜託再拜託我們大法官好好傾聽這些被害者的聲音啊"},{"start":413.527,"end":430.352,"text":"這些被害者在家屬在暗處哭泣的聲音請他們聽一聽這八成民意強烈的反對請他們聽一聽立法院的憲政尊嚴請他們聽一聽過去大法官認為死刑核限的這些前輩們的聲音請這些大法官聽一聽如果真的硬著幹我跟你講就是憲政危機第二個我就要問我們的法官過豪的問題"},{"start":443.666,"end":469.59,"text":"非常沉痛今天必須用一個法官一個書記官的生命來去告訴大家今天法官過了現在我們的司法你可以看到案件大幅增加是不是秘書長大幅增加我們2016到2023年地方法院受理案件數從308萬增加到391萬"},{"start":473.719,"end":483.702,"text":"漲幅27%耶那我想請教齁我們現在的法官他是從2016的2071人變成2196人只成長6%請問秘書長這些法官過去這麼多年來的過勞的心聲我們的司法院有掌握嗎"},{"start":499.676,"end":515.849,"text":"因為我們也是遵行總言而華,那這中間我們當然一直極力在爭取,一直爭取。我要跟各位說,去年司法院在立法院報告的時候是希望把員額提高到22000人嘛,對不對?是,是。"},{"start":517.492,"end":544.725,"text":"這是以10年期的期程來報告來估算那今天的報告是說預算是估算需求差5536人那我想請問司法院如果以短中期3到5年來看需要多少人大概我們目前是期盼我就是提出來這個5536人我跟秘書長說今天司法過了痛苦的不只是司法人員"},{"start":546.331,"end":566.027,"text":"其實對於訴訟當事人也是如此因為他會降低司法的裁判品質你今天就讓司法人面臨兩難嘛一個就壓榨生命跟身體嘛 對不對那另外一個就是讓案件的訴訟品質下降這兩件事情對司法對全國官都不是好事情"},{"start":566.755,"end":588.981,"text":"所以在這邊我知道上一屆委員有提案但因為新國會藉其不連續的關係所以上一屆的一些相關法要重新提出我這邊也說我願意當我們的基層司法人員的後盾所以對於中央政府機關總原額法第4條修正案提高第三類司法院及所屬機關職員的原額上限"},{"start":589.641,"end":615.265,"text":"這部分我已經擬好了也會開始連述希望我們一起共同的來終結司法過勞改善司法品質就從修法開始所以也希望說今天我們的行政部門特別其他包括人事行政總署、考試院權序部還有法務部相關的單位其實司法官過勞不只是法官而已對不對部長也包括檢察官"},{"start":616.804,"end":639.145,"text":"對 檢察官就是司法官還包括了輔助人力檢察事務官還有包括書記官、法警都是我們要注意要考量其實檢察機關也非常辛苦我覺得案件減量可能不只是透過員額而已還有包括說今天怎麼讓案件更親自分工這個部分我也會提出一些意見提供法務部參考 以上"}]}}}}