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00:02:12,559\n政務司司長\n\n8\n00:02:42,442 --> 00:02:54,008\n第二十八條之十四、第三十一條條文修正草案案件事宜、三十一條條文修正草案案件事宜、三十一條條文修正草案案件事宜、三十一條條文修正草案案件事宜、三十一條條文修正草案案件事宜、三十一條條文修正草案案件事宜、三十一條條文修正草案\n\n9\n00:03:00,712 --> 00:03:09,094\n二、審查：一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）\n\n10\n00:03:29,138 --> 00:03:31,299\n第二十八條之十四、第三十一條條文修正草案案。\n\n11\n00:03:58,546 --> 00:04:25,318\n財團法人或法人可以幫助他但當他得不到這些訊息他就沒有辦法所以我覺得這個部分除了還有智能化這也是全智動化智能化這都要補我們未來在人力不足的地方那也是跟我們所有的所謂的世界各個國家接軌很重要的一個機制所以我真的拜託部長\n\n12\n00:04:26,803 --> 00:04:28,645\n二、審查．一）行政院函請審查．一）工廠管理輔導\n\n13\n00:04:46,106 --> 00:05:04,620\n所以這個部分拜託所以應該真的就像部長講的你應該很驚訝居然有那麼多民間的小型工業區而且是台南特別多真的但是他們是一直被覺得是不是被經濟部忽略而已也是被台南市政府而且我覺得我們這個部分我也跟同仁討論我們是不是跟台南市政府來密切來合作那怎麼樣在這些廠商的資訊\n\n14\n00:05:14,367 --> 00:05:15,808\n第二十八條之十四、第三十一條條文修正草案案。\n\n15\n00:05:40,023 --> 00:05:41,345\n第二十八條之十四、第三十一條條文修正草案案。\n\n16\n00:05:55,101 --> 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