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00:01:49,779\n跟委員報告,我個人是在不方便在這個場合來跟委員報告。我覺得我們是支持維持死刑,但是我也支持在判決的時候我們能夠更嚴謹。我覺得當然基本的人權要保護,當然我們更要給被害者的家屬一個交代。當然\n\n6\n00:01:51,460 --> 00:02:20,826\n如果維持實行的話當然我個人認為對於犯罪的部分能夠有效的有部分的一個賀紙您支持嗎?我支持那我們再請一下衛福部我們薛部長政事長您等一下部長好上次本席形容的部長跟法務部可能沒什麼感覺我們先看一下影片\n\n7\n00:02:25,896 --> 00:02:53,349\n不是對中間連鞋子都掉了奮力站起來卻又不受控的一屁股跌坐倒地如同殭屍般的詭異行為引起民眾圍觀另一段同樣來自中國的畫面長髮熱褲妹成了對折人躺在地上扭來扭去原來他們都是上頭電子煙的影君子\n\n8\n00:02:57,916 --> 00:03:13,749\n獨品危害防治條例第二條第一項的規定,獨品包含對社會危害性的麻醉藥品及其製品。」那部長我想請問一下,依托米子是據本席了解,它是屬於管制的麻醉藥品,對吧?\n\n9\n00:03:14,675 --> 00:03:39,540\n目前還沒有列進去但是他是有一個有藥證的麻醉藥你們回去之後瞭解他還不是就對了所以這個5月9號我們會送管制藥品審議委員會他是定期開會我們會送到他那邊去做一個決定那如果他是符合就是說委員會裡面大家同意的話他就會列為管制藥品\n\n10\n00:03:40,160 --> 00:04:03,528\n列為管制藥品之後的話,我們就會再請那部長您覺得他對人體有沒有傷害?他對人體當然你如果說像這樣長期在用的話那會有傷害但是他也有醫療的用途就是說做一個短效的一個麻醉對我們知道馬飛他也是有醫療的用途對不對?但是他還是受控制的是\n\n11\n00:04:04,068 --> 00:04:26,872\n所以我覺得部長你回去之後我希望你們能夠盡快的將這個部分能夠納入我們的討論的一個議題那更希望能夠盡快的來管制做一個有效的管制因為我們每三個月我知道我們毒品審議委員會每三個月都會定期的來檢討那下一次是什麼時候\n\n12\n00:04:30,597 --> 00:04:46,229\n跟委員說明,我們毒品審議委員會我記得是上個月有開過,因為我們上個月開一次,應該是在現在4月份,大概7、8月份吧,大概。好,那本席在這邊就要求,將伊托米子加入審查內容可以嗎?\n\n13\n00:04:48,056 --> 00:05:15,607\n這也跟委報告我剛剛有報告過五月的時候我們就會進入管制藥品的審議委員會如果他略為管制藥品也就是說他在某種情形之下可以做藥但是他必須要嚴格監管那這個時候就會提到法務部的這個毒品審議那我這樣子除了這個剛剛一坨米子的部分我也希望法務部我們的K他命的這個分級的檢討一併納入可以嗎\n\n14\n00:05:18,272 --> 00:05:46,579\n協議委員提醒我們這個會在這個獨品審議委員會裡面提出因為我們才合一致我們就請委員討論這樣子我知道你們考慮很多當然過去我們某位部長級的官員也曾經提到如果中南部學校全校學生抓去驗尿恐怕許多的學校要關門如果以這種立場我本席真的非常的不認同我想國家是未來的\n\n15\n00:05:47,739 --> 00:06:11,946\n小朋友年輕人是我們國家未來的主人翁我們更加要好好的保護當然也要表現我們政府對於反毒的決心希望我們法務部、衛福部、內政部、警政署與教育部要做好跨部會的橫向聯繫像我看到我們現在看這個表\n\n16\n00:06:13,615 --> 00:06:33,185\n我們每一年都有一個通報的機制那108年我看108年到112年這當中每一次學校安全通報的濫用藥物的這個案件跟警政署通報的就有一個落差我想請警政署這邊也來說明一下這是為什麼警政署\n\n17\n00:06:53,704 --> 00:07:20,559\n邱委員好那這些通報的一個差距因為我們我們在數字有兩個系統所以在受理跟入案之間就會本來就會有一個猶豫期間所以它出來的一個數字一定不會相同如果數字在一定的期間之內我們大概都可以容許但是我這樣看起來幾乎都差了三分之一啊\n\n18\n00:07:22,294 --> 00:07:47,429\n多了大概三分之一以上。」我要強調就是說我們學校跟警政署掌握的數據不太一樣的原因當然就是橫向的聯繫不足就是我們沒有有效的跟學校保持一個聯繫學校也沒有辦法跟警政署這邊保持一個很好的溝通導致於我們這個數據不對\n\n19\n00:07:50,261 --> 00:08:07,528\n這有可能啦,這可能性也很高。那這部分我們已經加強少年隊跟學校之間的一個聯繫,而且現在學校部也蠻主動的,跟以往的概念不一樣,所以他們也蠻主動的來...那我請問警政署,我看到這個數據每一年都有在下降,對吧?\n\n20\n00:08:08,889 --> 00:08:21,152\n您認為K他命跟這些毒品在校園犯這個案子是因為我們學校查得好還是因為我們現在的做法是對的所以它逐年下降\n\n21\n00:08:22,729 --> 00:08:50,585\n應該都有這兩項都是雙管齊下的因為學校這部分真的比較正視這個問題了但是為什麼我覺得還是那個還是蠻氾濫的還是沒有下降用毒的人反而更多是這可能是單一事件的影響的一個渲染效果您認為這個數字跟我們的這個比如說K拉麵好了它因為毒品的分級制它是列三級你覺得跟這個有關嗎\n\n22\n00:08:52,709 --> 00:09:18,514\n在青少年使用的時候,他們不會分這麼清楚,他們是以自己取得的方式...對,但是警政署這邊辦案的話,他會不會因為他只是三級毒品而不太去注重?不會。我覺得會。您相信嗎?我改天拿數據給你們看。謝謝。對不對?因為警察每一個人他們都要有一個績效。\n\n23\n00:09:21,473 --> 00:09:35,524\n當我們警政署給他們一個標準的時候,他們當然是照著那個分數有績效的去做。當警政署沒有在注意這件事情的時候,他當然有碰到,當然就一定會做。只是他的重點不會放在這邊。」\n\n24\n00:09:36,525 --> 00:09:59,475\n你懂我意思嗎?所以我不認為這數據是可以參考的啦可以是對的啦所以我希望我們警政署跟我們學校這邊能夠做好一個有效的一個溝通這樣可以嗎?因為時間好像也到了我大概再問一下那個市長請回我再問一下衛福部\n\n25\n00:10:01,103 --> 00:10:28,137\n我們今年年初我們有一個優化偏鄉醫療精進計畫這一個部分那今年年初我們苗栗18個鄉鎮市有9個衛生所醫生出缺比例高達50%凸顯我們苗栗縣的衛生所的醫師嚴重不足因此本席對於優化偏鄉醫療精進做法非常的期待不過目前我們只看到一張計畫的大網看不到詳細的內容\n\n26\n00:10:30,501 --> 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人反而更多是這可能是單一事件的影響的一個渲染效果您認為這個數字跟我們的這個比如說K拉麵好了它因為毒品的分級制它是列三級你覺得跟這個有關嗎\n在青少年使用的時候,他們不會分這麼清楚,他們是以自己取得的方式...對,但是警政署這邊辦案的話,他會不會因為他只是三級毒品而不太去注重?不會。我覺得會。您相信嗎?我改天拿數據給你們看。謝謝。對不對?因為警察每一個人他們都要有一個績效。\n當我們警政署給他們一個標準的時候,他們當然是照著那個分數有績效的去做。當警政署沒有在注意這件事情的時候,他當然有碰到,當然就一定會做。只是他的重點不會放在這邊。」\n你懂我意思嗎?所以我不認為這數據是可以參考的啦可以是對的啦所以我希望我們警政署跟我們學校這邊能夠做好一個有效的一個溝通這樣可以嗎?因為時間好像也到了我大概再問一下那個市長請回我再問一下衛福部\n我們今年年初我們有一個優化偏鄉醫療精進計畫這一個部分那今年年初我們苗栗18個鄉鎮市有9個衛生所醫生出缺比例高達50%凸顯我們苗栗縣的衛生所的醫師嚴重不足因此本席對於優化偏鄉醫療精進做法非常的期待不過目前我們只看到一張計畫的大網看不到詳細的內容\n這部分的話因為行政院應該是剛剛才核定才核定那我這樣講因為時間不太夠這部分我改天再來問你我也希望說部長能夠多重視一下這個偏鄉醫療不足的問題當然所以我們才提這個計畫好謝謝部長好我們謝謝我們的邱振軍委員接下來請王育民委員發言\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.212 --> 00:18.103\n主席好,我們先請我們法務部我們的郭司長請法務部檢察司郭司長\n\n00:24.534 --> 00:43.306\n副市長好我請問一下我們昨天這個執行的這個視線辯論扣除需要迴避的三位大法官其餘12位裡面有七位大法官支持廢死那在台灣呢有超過八成的民眾是反對廢死的\n\n00:44.810 --> 01:08.246\n假設大法官釋憲,結果與民意不符,法務部接下來的動作會是什麼?跟委員報告,法務部很堅決地認為,這個有關於廢死的議題,應該交由國會來決定。那如果這個...因為大法官...因你們專業的角度來看呢?是。\n\n01:09.286 --> 01:24.594\n因為這個判決還沒有辦到了大概應該7到9月份才出來在還沒有判決出來之前我們實在無法預測到底憲法法庭會做怎麼樣一個決定那以你個人的看法\n\n01:26.389 --> 01:49.779\n跟委員報告,我個人是在不方便在這個場合來跟委員報告。我覺得我們是支持維持死刑,但是我也支持在判決的時候我們能夠更嚴謹。我覺得當然基本的人權要保護,當然我們更要給被害者的家屬一個交代。當然\n\n01:51.460 --> 02:20.826\n如果維持實行的話當然我個人認為對於犯罪的部分能夠有效的有部分的一個賀紙您支持嗎?我支持那我們再請一下衛福部我們薛部長政事長您等一下部長好上次本席形容的部長跟法務部可能沒什麼感覺我們先看一下影片\n\n02:25.896 --> 02:53.349\n不是對中間連鞋子都掉了奮力站起來卻又不受控的一屁股跌坐倒地如同殭屍般的詭異行為引起民眾圍觀另一段同樣來自中國的畫面長髮熱褲妹成了對折人躺在地上扭來扭去原來他們都是上頭電子煙的影君子\n\n02:57.916 --> 03:13.749\n獨品危害防治條例第二條第一項的規定,獨品包含對社會危害性的麻醉藥品及其製品。」那部長我想請問一下,依托米子是據本席了解,它是屬於管制的麻醉藥品,對吧?\n\n03:14.675 --> 03:39.540\n目前還沒有列進去但是他是有一個有藥證的麻醉藥你們回去之後瞭解他還不是就對了所以這個5月9號我們會送管制藥品審議委員會他是定期開會我們會送到他那邊去做一個決定那如果他是符合就是說委員會裡面大家同意的話他就會列為管制藥品\n\n03:40.160 --> 04:03.528\n列為管制藥品之後的話,我們就會再請那部長您覺得他對人體有沒有傷害?他對人體當然你如果說像這樣長期在用的話那會有傷害但是他也有醫療的用途就是說做一個短效的一個麻醉對我們知道馬飛他也是有醫療的用途對不對?但是他還是受控制的是\n\n04:04.068 --> 04:26.872\n所以我覺得部長你回去之後我希望你們能夠盡快的將這個部分能夠納入我們的討論的一個議題那更希望能夠盡快的來管制做一個有效的管制因為我們每三個月我知道我們毒品審議委員會每三個月都會定期的來檢討那下一次是什麼時候\n\n04:30.597 --> 04:46.229\n跟委員說明,我們毒品審議委員會我記得是上個月有開過,因為我們上個月開一次,應該是在現在4月份,大概7、8月份吧,大概。好,那本席在這邊就要求,將伊托米子加入審查內容可以嗎?\n\n04:48.056 --> 05:15.607\n這也跟委報告我剛剛有報告過五月的時候我們就會進入管制藥品的審議委員會如果他略為管制藥品也就是說他在某種情形之下可以做藥但是他必須要嚴格監管那這個時候就會提到法務部的這個毒品審議那我這樣子除了這個剛剛一坨米子的部分我也希望法務部我們的K他命的這個分級的檢討一併納入可以嗎\n\n05:18.272 --> 05:46.579\n協議委員提醒我們這個會在這個獨品審議委員會裡面提出因為我們才合一致我們就請委員討論這樣子我知道你們考慮很多當然過去我們某位部長級的官員也曾經提到如果中南部學校全校學生抓去驗尿恐怕許多的學校要關門如果以這種立場我本席真的非常的不認同我想國家是未來的\n\n05:47.739 --> 06:11.946\n小朋友年輕人是我們國家未來的主人翁我們更加要好好的保護當然也要表現我們政府對於反毒的決心希望我們法務部、衛福部、內政部、警政署與教育部要做好跨部會的橫向聯繫像我看到我們現在看這個表\n\n06:13.615 --> 06:33.185\n我們每一年都有一個通報的機制那108年我看108年到112年這當中每一次學校安全通報的濫用藥物的這個案件跟警政署通報的就有一個落差我想請警政署這邊也來說明一下這是為什麼警政署\n\n06:53.704 --> 07:20.559\n邱委員好那這些通報的一個差距因為我們我們在數字有兩個系統所以在受理跟入案之間就會本來就會有一個猶豫期間所以它出來的一個數字一定不會相同如果數字在一定的期間之內我們大概都可以容許但是我這樣看起來幾乎都差了三分之一啊\n\n07:22.294 --> 07:47.429\n多了大概三分之一以上。」我要強調就是說我們學校跟警政署掌握的數據不太一樣的原因當然就是橫向的聯繫不足就是我們沒有有效的跟學校保持一個聯繫學校也沒有辦法跟警政署這邊保持一個很好的溝通導致於我們這個數據不對\n\n07:50.261 --> 08:07.528\n這有可能啦,這可能性也很高。那這部分我們已經加強少年隊跟學校之間的一個聯繫,而且現在學校部也蠻主動的,跟以往的概念不一樣,所以他們也蠻主動的來...那我請問警政署,我看到這個數據每一年都有在下降,對吧?\n\n08:08.889 --> 08:21.152\n您認為K他命跟這些毒品在校園犯這個案子是因為我們學校查得好還是因為我們現在的做法是對的所以它逐年下降\n\n08:22.729 --> 08:50.585\n應該都有這兩項都是雙管齊下的因為學校這部分真的比較正視這個問題了但是為什麼我覺得還是那個還是蠻氾濫的還是沒有下降用毒的人反而更多是這可能是單一事件的影響的一個渲染效果您認為這個數字跟我們的這個比如說K拉麵好了它因為毒品的分級制它是列三級你覺得跟這個有關嗎\n\n08:52.709 --> 09:18.514\n在青少年使用的時候,他們不會分這麼清楚,他們是以自己取得的方式...對,但是警政署這邊辦案的話,他會不會因為他只是三級毒品而不太去注重?不會。我覺得會。您相信嗎?我改天拿數據給你們看。謝謝。對不對?因為警察每一個人他們都要有一個績效。\n\n09:21.473 --> 09:35.524\n當我們警政署給他們一個標準的時候,他們當然是照著那個分數有績效的去做。當警政署沒有在注意這件事情的時候,他當然有碰到,當然就一定會做。只是他的重點不會放在這邊。」\n\n09:36.525 --> 09:59.475\n你懂我意思嗎?所以我不認為這數據是可以參考的啦可以是對的啦所以我希望我們警政署跟我們學校這邊能夠做好一個有效的一個溝通這樣可以嗎?因為時間好像也到了我大概再問一下那個市長請回我再問一下衛福部\n\n10:01.103 --> 10:28.137\n我們今年年初我們有一個優化偏鄉醫療精進計畫這一個部分那今年年初我們苗栗18個鄉鎮市有9個衛生所醫生出缺比例高達50%凸顯我們苗栗縣的衛生所的醫師嚴重不足因此本席對於優化偏鄉醫療精進做法非常的期待不過目前我們只看到一張計畫的大網看不到詳細的內容\n\n10:30.501 --> 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