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00:00:20,773\n今天我們討論這個國籍法的修法有兩個重點一個是第5條裡面針對特殊的專業人才兩年就可以申請規劃來為我們台灣爭取更好的人才我相信這個各黨各派其實都有提出版本我覺得這個沒有什麼問題因為大家的差別並不大\n\n2\n00:00:21,735 --> 00:00:27,422\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n3\n00:00:37,313 --> 00:00:40,935\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n4\n00:01:03,607 --> 00:01:05,510\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n5\n00:01:19,651 --> 00:01:24,614\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。六、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n6\n00:01:41,164 --> 00:01:45,265\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n7\n00:02:01,229 --> 00:02:06,594\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。六、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n8\n00:02:22,870 --> 00:02:32,174\n審查內政部函送國家住宅及都市更新中心1案。三、審查內政部函送國家住宅及都市更新中心1案。四、審查內政部函送國家住宅及都市更新中心1案。五、審查內政部函送國家住宅及都市更新中心1案。六、審查內政部函送國家住宅及都市更新中心1案。\n\n9\n00:02:44,740 --> 00:02:52,889\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n10\n00:03:08,325 --> 00:03:13,867\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n11\n00:03:37,230 --> 00:04:02,462\n是,我了解委員的意思,就是說他變成是說這邊他故意消失去製造他可規劃的這個理由。這個是不是容許我們想一下,因為他雖然是,剛剛你在講的這個狀況,不過如果他是在台灣出生的話,他都會有,現在都會有紀錄,也知道他生母是誰。\n\n12\n00:04:04,416 --> 00:04:05,617\n規劃條件才存在。\n\n13\n00:04:26,807 --> 00:04:28,628\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n14\n00:04:45,279 --> 00:05:00,885\n委員報告針對這種黑戶寶寶其實我們有一連串的那個認定的程序是首先要這個這一個人要是父不祥生母為外國人這個是第一個條件第二個要經過\n\n15\n00:05:02,728 --> 00:05:24,881\n住外管處請國家諧巡3個月,或者是生母還在國內要經過移民署諧巡6個月都找不到了。這是第二階段。第三階段就是還要原屬國的國家不承認這個小孩子具有他的國籍,或者是他3個月都沒有回復的時候,地方政府才會把這種黑戶寶寶的個案報給我們來認定他為\n\n16\n00:05:29,403 --> 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