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00:01:52,916\n二、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n7\n00:02:12,082 --> 00:02:15,283\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n8\n00:02:31,428 --> 00:02:38,399\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n9\n00:02:47,816 --> 00:03:08,958\n那這個困難是不是會把你們遇到的困難能夠把報告交到本席辦公室來了解一下。好,我把那個我們現在就是說相關研議的一個情形。是,因為本席覺得用收入的方式是因為我們現在中低收入的任命標準是每人每月平均有沒有低於我們的最低生活最低的這個生活標準來算嗎?\n\n10\n00:03:09,278 --> 00:03:13,403\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n11\n00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:47,667\n請教在報告提看到114年到119年的城鄉淨嶺綠生活及創生營造計畫,這個部分是在國土署?對,在國土署。署長,這個計畫是屬於競爭型的對不對?跟委員報告,當然現在有競爭型,當然也會有過去城鄉風貌的政策延伸的部分,都會有。\n\n12\n00:03:49,768 --> 00:04:05,941\n本席想要了解就是說我們的目標是要淨零排放然後城市重新規劃其實我們依照我們現在這過去我們這8年來的這個簡單的成效性來看其實跳票機會是蠻高的要到2050年淨零排放應該是會跳票\n\n13\n00:04:10,225 --> 00:04:23,689\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n14\n00:04:39,214 --> 00:04:41,576\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n15\n00:05:02,855 --> 00:05:08,039\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。六、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n16\n00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:33,495\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。六、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n17\n00:05:49,691 --> 00:05:54,436\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n18\n00:06:13,593 --> 00:06:41,725\n所以我想這個部分我們都沒有停還會繼續本席會這樣問我最主要是真的很擔心因為台東縣相對資源就比較小如果在這樣的條件下跟其他縣競爭它也相對的弱勢那弱勢會越來越弱勢所以有署長這樣的承諾我也很放心也可以讓台東縣民知道說未來在競爭上中央絕對會來支持這個我們會跟國發會一起合作繼續把這一個部分把它推動下去\n\n19\n00:06:42,367 --> 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