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00:00:56,827\n審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計2案。三、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計2案。四、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案。五、審查113年度中央政府總預算案有關內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案。六、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案。七、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案。八、審查113年度中央政府總預算凍結書面報告案。\n\n4\n00:01:09,671 --> 00:01:16,478\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n5\n00:01:29,109 --> 00:01:52,117\n經由這個內政部的消防署要先選擇住在哪一個縣市哪一區哪一個鄉鎮光是查詢這些就需要20秒的時間非常的長好也許平常我們在家裡會準備防災包這個都是大家有接受教育的可是地震常常發生在我們上班的時候在通勤的時候\n\n6\n00:01:52,677 --> 00:01:58,341\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n7\n00:02:14,031 --> 00:02:19,574\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。六、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n8\n00:02:43,025 --> 00:02:46,788\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n9\n00:03:03,712 --> 00:03:08,034\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n10\n00:03:33,696 --> 00:03:53,455\n謝謝這個委員的指教我想這一個防災資訊其實在我們的消防署有一個APP還有警政當然都有當然你必須要去廣播宣傳讓民眾都清楚知道你可以透過這樣的APP去得到相關的資訊那就像剛剛委員講可能你要上網還要一段時間\n\n11\n00:03:54,076 --> 00:03:57,500\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n12\n00:04:15,418 --> 00:04:17,319\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。三、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n13\n00:04:30,845 --> 00:04:37,950\n審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。四、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。五、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。六、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。七、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。八、審查內政部主管預算凍結書面報告案計6案。\n\n14\n00:04:59,229 --> 00:05:16,241\n好謝謝委員我想這一部分在防災設計我們現在也在推動那您剛剛建立這部分我們會來研究一下看這個到底把它改成防災管理人這一個都可以討論所以我們會來討論謝謝好最後最後不好意思一分鐘最後呢剛剛你有提到這個APP但的確\n\n15\n00:05:18,602 --> 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