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樣一個臺語指導員，現在像已經在上映的這些節目，例如鹽水大飯店這些，其實都有完成這樣的一個責任！"],["陳委員秀寳：次長，將來在你們截止徵件之後，對於入選的這些作品會透過什麼樣的方式來播送？是在入選者的個人網路平台還是你們有一個頻道來播送這些節目？"],["王次長時思：他們在提出整體計畫的時候，至少必須在他個人的平台上，但是我們當然期待他有更多的商模或者是跟其他頻道的合作，這是我們所期待，但是至少在他個人頻道上是一定要進行播出的。"],["陳委員秀寳：所以有入選的作品是在他個人的頻道上播送、播放？"],["王次長時思：至少。"],["陳委員秀寳：那你們有沒有去設一個目標，就是這個節目應該要推廣給多少人次來觀看？"],["王次長時思：目前我們沒有特別規定在人數流量上的限制，我們現在仍然是以鼓勵製作內容為主。"],["陳委員秀寳：如果沒有一個人數流量的規定，你們怎麼知道這樣的節目受不受歡迎？日後是不是要再推動這樣的計畫、再做這樣的節目？"],["王次長時思：我們基本上在審查的過程裡面會以這個作為審查的條件之一啦，就是大家會參考這個節目是不是能夠受歡迎，因為是不是能夠受到市場的重視當然也是審查的基礎。"],["陳委員秀寳：你總要有個指標啊！"],["王次長時思：我想是一個比較值啦，就是說有不同的案子進來，他們的受歡迎程度跟流量的程度應該是委員審查的一個基礎。"],["陳委員秀寳：次長，因為這個計畫的目標畢竟是要來推廣臺語主流化，所以對於這個部分，你們要怎樣去設定目標來瞭解我們這樣的計畫推廣是不是成功的，它是不是受歡迎的，日後我們才有個依據再來……"],["王次長時思：檢驗的指標。"],["陳委員秀寳：再來我們要推動這樣計畫的時候可以作為參考，所以對於這個部分，請你們會後來我辦公室，我們來討論一下好了。因為主席已經站起來了。"],["王次長時思：好，沒有問題。謝謝委員。"],["陳委員秀寳：謝謝主席，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝陳秀寳委員，次長請回。","我在此宣告一下，待本席質詢完畢後休息5分鐘。","接下來請吳沛憶委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":374,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-22-9","speakers":["林宜瑾","洪孟楷","柯志恩","萬美玲","葛如鈞","郭昱晴","陳秀寳","吳沛憶","張雅琳","吳春城","葉元之","陳培瑜","何欣純","鄭天財Sra 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00:00:08,274\n謝謝主席那請王次長有請王次長委員好次長早4月3號的大地震之後餘震不斷那全台都有災情其中也包括我們文化資產的部分本期這邊有向文化部我們這邊來詢問截至到4月17呢你們收到的這些\n\n2\n00:00:31,843 --> 00:00:53,086\n回報總共有69處20處是縣市定的古蹟32處是歷史建築1處是文化景觀以及有一處是聚落建築群那你們也初估就是修算經費大概在3.4億那這邊要請教次長文化部會不會優先提供這個預算趕快來修復這些文資\n\n3\n00:00:54,187 --> 00:00:54,307\n什麼時候會開始?\n\n4\n00:01:12,352 --> 00:01:12,372\n﹚陳秀寳﹚\n\n5\n00:01:36,211 --> 00:01:53,739\n預計是先將這個會漏的屋頂要先修復喔但是你們預計是5月中旬才會進場修復那現在已經開始慢慢的進入梅雨季節開始會下雨喔那而且這樣的強降雨下來如果說有這樣的裂縫也怕就是漏水進去說會造成建築內部的損壞那這個部分可不可以再提早\n\n6\n00:01:59,201 --> 00:02:24,812\n跟委員說明我想有一些會有可能繼續造成損害的地方我們看有沒有一些緊急措施可以採取因為我想這個修復過程還是有需要要找專家的團隊恐怕也沒有辦法說馬上要去修就會有它最緊張當然它修復它有一定的程序但是希望說可以再盡快因為我擔心說這個雨水會造成說內部一些其他的部分也造成損壞了所以希望說這個可能盡快來協助\n\n7\n00:02:28,119 --> 00:02:43,086\n今天我們的專報是公視第3台轉型兒少頻道的專報次長不知道你們有沒有注意到我國的無線電視頻道公廣集團占了大概快一半但是根據NCC112年通訊傳播市場的報告來顯示從102年到110年在無線電視頻道的兒童節目大概都只有5%左右在整體節目的播出率佔比是非常的低\n\n8\n00:02:55,411 --> 00:03:00,877\n今年,文化部有透過《黑潮計畫》預祝公視6億的經費要來產製優質的兒少節目。在今天的專報有指出,預計在8月20日會正式播出,將公視3台轉為兒少頻道。目前你們所有的建制進度如何?預計以後5%的播出率這麼低,我們可以提升到多少?\n\n9\n00:03:19,935 --> 00:03:39,791\n跟委員說明的確提升這個自治率而且是新治率包括整體不管是由公視的自治委制或者是說由民間團隊的合資合製等等的確提升這個是目前的目標那至於說這個8月20號的開台的準備的情況我想可以請公視做一個比較清楚的說明那你可以簡短的說明一下公視這邊\n\n10\n00:03:40,792 --> 00:04:00,992\n對公視來說大概就是第一個就要準備開台有哪些節目不管是自製的節目或者是購置的節目都能夠在開台的時候展開那很重要的是這一次公視的這個所謂的小公視的兒少頻道的開台呢不是只有在這個單一頻道它其實包括的是多頻道所以它希望在數位的部分也展開那這個部分會是我們認為未來轉型的一個很大的關鍵因為收視習慣的整個改變大概\n\n11\n00:04:04,696 --> 00:04:07,157\n關於我們這個兒童的這個節目戲劇節目比較少其實本席這邊有詢問過影視局112年公告各類型的節目補助的金額總共有3億6千多萬但是補助兒童電視節目只有4550萬只佔整體經費的12%\n\n12\n00:04:31,068 --> 00:04:46,296\n顯然我們在製作兒童節目的這個部分是比較缺乏那本席知道說這個是申請的部分是由他們業者主張來申請但是文化部這邊是不是有一些比較好的誘因或是有\n\n13\n00:04:47,136 --> 00:04:47,657\n是不是說他的誘因就不足啊?\n\n14\n00:05:10,616 --> 00:05:27,616\n我想右鷹的部分兩個第一個當然是針對補助的額度那第二個我覺得還關鍵仍然是量能其實可以看到公視在這一次的真案裡面如果民間他沒有相關的經驗或者是他本來產生量能不足的情況下即使我們拿出高額的獎金或者是補助也不一定會有案子可以解決\n\n15\n00:05:27,756 --> 00:05:30,378\n我們希望展開的是呼籲,就是說我們跟他們一起合作,因為其實在過去的這些年來大家可以看到就是說在整體的製作節目上幾乎是這個公共電視的這個集團包括公視、客語台、他語台、圓明台負擔了主要兒少製作的節目\n\n16\n00:05:48,428 --> 00:06:05,790\n這邊你們可以釋出資源來跟業者合作來協助應該對於這個節目的殘滯會有些幫助資金跟人才可能可以透過這樣的合作陪伴富裕跟補助的這個獎金同時來下手可以讓這整個量能有比較好的改善跟提升這是目前的計畫\n\n17\n00:06:06,451 --> 00:06:27,777\n市長這邊再請教您根據NCC的報告以及文策院2023年台灣兒少影視內容觀影行為調查也顯示無線電視在我國收看的人數是逐年的下降同時OTT平台是逐年的上升而且在4到10歲的兒少部分又以收視OTT平台影音為主那市長\n\n18\n00:06:28,997 --> 00:06:42,782\n這一次我們公視兒少檯目我們預計用怎樣的方式可以來吸引兒少來觀看那我們在頻道設立的初期有沒有設定收視的目標有沒有這樣子的一個自己設定的目標來達成這樣的達成率\n\n19\n00:06:45,199 --> 00:07:07,139\n好,第一個就是幾個變相,第一個公視Plus它本來就有在經營這個數位的平台,在去年也改版了,那也用所謂的親子家庭專區這個方式,用分鄰的方式來促進大家可以養成這樣的收視習慣。那另外就是在這個小公視的開台之後呢,也包括這個公視的兒少的網路平台,兒少的YouTube,還有這個公視Plus這個專區,這幾個\n\n20\n00:07:09,718 --> 00:07:09,738\n﹚陳秀寳\n\n21\n00:07:25,094 --> 00:07:25,975\n市長目前我們公視兒少頻道的直播節目有沒有針對兒少的需求不同\n\n22\n00:07:54,895 --> 00:08:14,319\n或是根據他們的作息他們的時間來安排直播的節目的不同以及安排這些時段我們有做這樣子的規劃嗎的確公視現在就是以不同的年齡層的需求來進行規劃所以可以分為可以看到就在學齡前像2到6歲他所提供的可能就是音樂啦肢體啊遊戲這一類那如果是學齡的7到12歲他提供就會包括科學實驗啦實境節目啦外景計時這一類那如果是12到18歲青少年呢他就會出現解謎啦或者是這個親子\n\n23\n00:08:24,301 --> 00:08:24,742\n目前兒少收視以OTT平台為主\n\n24\n00:08:41,102 --> 00:08:44,486\n以我國目前訂閱率比較高的OTT平台為例上面的兒童專區的部分並沒有像一般的頁面有選擇台灣節目的部分所以說以後我們公視自播的節目會不會有推廣到OTT平台的這些規劃?\n\n25\n00:08:57,438 --> 00:09:14,286\n有,這個就是我們希望努力的,所以我的這個建議我們也非常希望可以做到,如果未來在OT的平台上可以看到公視的不管是我們自己製作的戲劇節目或者是兒童的節目,我想會是一個最好的選項。那也謝謝次長你有這樣的想法,因為文化部我們投入了近6億的預算,讓公視來直播優質的兒少節目,那應該也要\n\n26\n00:09:19,088 --> 00:09:25,634\n除了在我們公視三台播出之外應該持續推廣到兒童現在兒少比較主要收視的OTT平台讓更多的這些兒少可以觀看到我們台灣自製的優質的節目那本席有發現在無線電視的節目播放方面其實重播率從103年到111年大概都是大概五成左右但是從108年開始一路飆升到將近六成\n\n27\n00:09:43,772 --> 00:09:51,895\n但是台語節目在無線電視的播放占比從111年的有將近兩成到110年又回到大概一成出頭那今年我們執行的這個黑潮計畫有提升我國自製優質節目的數量推廣我國的影視音音的文化但是在電視台的重播率卻持續的攀升部長您覺得說我們要如何來推動這個台語發展的業務\n\n28\n00:10:11,761 --> 00:10:26,670\n如何來推動我們多次播台語節目應該如何改善你們有什麼目標我們現在的做法是這樣因為我們有這個母語計畫就是希望來推動整體使用台語的情況那我們現在做法倒不一定是直接製作台語的節目包括\n\n29\n00:10:27,270 --> 00:10:27,290\n陳秀寳議員\n\n30\n00:10:48,914 --> 00:10:48,934\n﹚陳秀寳\n\n31\n00:11:10,097 --> 00:11:12,420\n因為還沒有截止,所以你們沒有大家去看一下說來申請的人有不有願,來投稿的人?\n\n32\n00:11:30,041 --> 00:11:59,601\n對,因為總的來說大概都要到截止日前案件才會湧進來比較完整,我們可以到截止日之後再跟你們說。這個部分齁,你們這個政見的規定就是說至少直播十幾集,每一集的長度只有20分鐘,而可以使用它既有的網路的內容轉譯成台語或是直播新的台語節目。但是這個部分呢我要提醒就是說,因為它是要推廣台語的使用喔,如果後續入選者他們在台語的使用上或是念法上有疑義,你們有沒有相關的協助可以提供?\n\n33\n00:12:01,842 --> 00:12:06,344\n就是說投稿的人他本身在製作的時候如果有這樣子需要協助的地方你們可以提供他協助嗎?\n\n34\n00:12:28,577 --> 00:12:49,475\n應該是說這樣他要製作的時候我們就會要求他一定要有這個條件他不可以沒有台語指導員因為如果沒有的話我們會未來如果他在語言的使用上出現問題的時候其實會引起比較大的爭議啦對那以現在製作節目來說其實都有配置這樣的一個台語的指導員那現在像已經在上映的這些像鹽水大飯店啦這些他其實都有完成這樣的一個責任\n\n35\n00:12:50,656 --> 00:13:07,153\n市長請教這些入選的作品將來你們截稿之後你們截止徵件之後你們入選的這些作品會透過怎樣的方式來播送是在入選者的個人網路平台還是說你們有一個這樣的頻道來播送這些節目他們在提出這個\n\n36\n00:13:10,765 --> 00:13:14,608\n所以有入選的作品是在他個人的頻道上播放?至少那你們有沒有去設一個目標就是說他這個節目應該要推廣給多少的人次來觀看?\n\n37\n00:13:38,803 --> 00:14:05,542\n我們沒有特別的規定在人數流量上的限制目前那如果沒有一個人數流量上的去一個規定的話你們怎麼知道說這樣的節目受不受歡迎以後是不是要日後是不是要再推動這樣子的計畫我們基本上在審查的過程裡面會以這個作為審查的條件之一啦就大家會參考說欸這個節目是不是能夠受歡迎因為是不是能夠受到市場的重視當然也是審查的基礎你總要有一個指標啊\n\n38\n00:14:07,205 --> 00:14:07,225\n檢驗指標\n\n39\n00:14:31,516 --> 00:14:31,756\n秀寳委員次長請問\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5213\t8274\t謝謝主席 那請王次長有請王次長委員好 次長早4月3號的大地震之後餘震不斷那全台都有災情其中也包括我們文化資產的部分本期這邊有向文化部我們這邊來詢問截至到4月17呢你們收到的這些\n31843\t53086\t回報總共有69處 20處是縣市定的古蹟 32處是歷史建築 1處是文化景觀以及有一處是聚落建築群那你們也初估就是 修算經費大概在3.4億那這邊要請教次長 文化部會不會優先提供這個預算趕快來修復這些文資\n54187\t54307\t什麼時候會開始?\n72352\t72372\t﹚陳秀寳﹚\n96211\t113739\t預計是先將這個會漏的屋頂要先修復喔但是你們預計是5月中旬才會進場修復那現在已經開始慢慢的進入梅雨季節開始會下雨喔那而且這樣的強降雨下來如果說有這樣的裂縫也怕就是漏水進去說會造成建築內部的損壞那這個部分可不可以再提早\n119201\t144812\t跟委員說明我想有一些會有可能繼續造成損害的地方我們看有沒有一些緊急措施可以採取因為我想這個修復過程還是有需要要找專家的團隊恐怕也沒有辦法說馬上要去修就會有它最緊張當然它修復它有一定的程序但是希望說可以再盡快因為我擔心說這個雨水會造成說內部一些其他的部分也造成損壞了所以希望說這個可能盡快來協助\n148119\t163086\t今天我們的專報是公視第3台轉型兒少頻道的專報次長不知道你們有沒有注意到我國的無線電視頻道公廣集團占了大概快一半但是根據NCC112年通訊傳播市場的報告來顯示從102年到110年在無線電視頻道的兒童節目大概都只有5%左右在整體節目的播出率佔比是非常的低\n175411\t180877\t今年,文化部有透過《黑潮計畫》預祝公視6億的經費要來產製優質的兒少節目。在今天的專報有指出,預計在8月20日會正式播出,將公視3台轉為兒少頻道。目前你們所有的建制進度如何?預計以後5%的播出率這麼低,我們可以提升到多少?\n199935\t219791\t跟委員說明的確提升這個自治率而且是新治率包括整體不管是由公視的自治委制或者是說由民間團隊的合資合製等等的確提升這個是目前的目標那至於說這個8月20號的開台的準備的情況我想可以請公視做一個比較清楚的說明那你可以簡短的說明一下公視這邊\n220792\t240992\t對公視來說大概就是第一個就要準備開台有哪些節目不管是自製的節目或者是購置的節目都能夠在開台的時候展開那很重要的是這一次公視的這個所謂的小公視的兒少頻道的開台呢不是只有在這個單一頻道它其實包括的是多頻道所以它希望在數位的部分也展開那這個部分會是我們認為未來轉型的一個很大的關鍵因為收視習慣的整個改變大概\n244696\t247157\t關於我們這個兒童的這個節目戲劇節目比較少其實本席這邊有詢問過影視局112年公告各類型的節目補助的金額總共有3億6千多萬但是補助兒童電視節目只有4550萬只佔整體經費的12%\n271068\t286296\t顯然我們在製作兒童節目的這個部分是比較缺乏那本席知道說這個是申請的部分是由他們業者主張來申請但是文化部這邊是不是有一些比較好的誘因或是有\n287136\t287657\t是不是說他的誘因就不足啊?\n310616\t327616\t我想右鷹的部分兩個第一個當然是針對補助的額度那第二個我覺得還關鍵仍然是量能其實可以看到公視在這一次的真案裡面如果民間他沒有相關的經驗或者是他本來產生量能不足的情況下即使我們拿出高額的獎金或者是補助也不一定會有案子可以解決\n327756\t330378\t我們希望展開的是呼籲,就是說我們跟他們一起合作,因為其實在過去的這些年來大家可以看到就是說在整體的製作節目上幾乎是這個公共電視的這個集團包括公視、客語台、他語台、圓明台負擔了主要兒少製作的節目\n348428\t365790\t這邊你們可以釋出資源來跟業者合作來協助應該對於這個節目的殘滯會有些幫助資金跟人才可能可以透過這樣的合作陪伴富裕跟補助的這個獎金同時來下手可以讓這整個量能有比較好的改善跟提升這是目前的計畫\n366451\t387777\t市長這邊再請教您根據NCC的報告以及文策院2023年台灣兒少影視內容觀影行為調查也顯示無線電視在我國收看的人數是逐年的下降同時OTT平台是逐年的上升而且在4到10歲的兒少部分又以收視OTT平台影音為主那市長\n388997\t402782\t這一次我們公視兒少檯目我們預計用怎樣的方式可以來吸引兒少來觀看那我們在頻道設立的初期有沒有設定收視的目標有沒有這樣子的一個自己設定的目標來達成這樣的達成率\n405199\t427139\t好,第一個就是幾個變相,第一個公視Plus它本來就有在經營這個數位的平台,在去年也改版了,那也用所謂的親子家庭專區這個方式,用分鄰的方式來促進大家可以養成這樣的收視習慣。那另外就是在這個小公視的開台之後呢,也包括這個公視的兒少的網路平台,兒少的YouTube,還有這個公視Plus這個專區,這幾個\n429718\t429738\t﹚陳秀寳\n445094\t445975\t市長目前我們公視兒少頻道的直播節目有沒有針對兒少的需求不同\n474895\t494319\t或是根據他們的作息他們的時間來安排直播的節目的不同以及安排這些時段我們有做這樣子的規劃嗎的確公視現在就是以不同的年齡層的需求來進行規劃所以可以分為可以看到就在學齡前像2到6歲他所提供的可能就是音樂啦肢體啊遊戲這一類那如果是學齡的7到12歲他提供就會包括科學實驗啦實境節目啦外景計時這一類那如果是12到18歲青少年呢他就會出現解謎啦或者是這個親子\n504301\t504742\t目前兒少收視以OTT平台為主\n521102\t524486\t以我國目前訂閱率比較高的OTT平台為例上面的兒童專區的部分並沒有像一般的頁面有選擇台灣節目的部分所以說以後我們公視自播的節目會不會有推廣到OTT平台的這些規劃?\n537438\t554286\t有,這個就是我們希望努力的,所以我的這個建議我們也非常希望可以做到,如果未來在OT的平台上可以看到公視的不管是我們自己製作的戲劇節目或者是兒童的節目,我想會是一個最好的選項。那也謝謝次長你有這樣的想法,因為文化部我們投入了近6億的預算,讓公視來直播優質的兒少節目,那應該也要\n559088\t565634\t除了在我們公視三台播出之外應該持續推廣到兒童現在兒少比較主要收視的OTT平台讓更多的這些兒少可以觀看到我們台灣自製的優質的節目那本席有發現在無線電視的節目播放方面其實重播率從103年到111年大概都是大概五成左右但是從108年開始一路飆升到將近六成\n583772\t591895\t但是台語節目在無線電視的播放占比從111年的有將近兩成到110年又回到大概一成出頭那今年我們執行的這個黑潮計畫有提升我國自製優質節目的數量推廣我國的影視音音的文化但是在電視台的重播率卻持續的攀升部長您覺得說我們要如何來推動這個台語發展的業務\n611761\t626670\t如何來推動我們多次播台語節目應該如何改善你們有什麼目標我們現在的做法是這樣因為我們有這個母語計畫就是希望來推動整體使用台語的情況那我們現在做法倒不一定是直接製作台語的節目包括\n627270\t627290\t陳秀寳議員\n648914\t648934\t﹚陳秀寳\n670097\t672420\t因為還沒有截止,所以你們沒有大家去看一下說來申請的人有不有願,來投稿的人?\n690041\t719601\t對,因為總的來說大概都要到截止日前案件才會湧進來比較完整,我們可以到截止日之後再跟你們說。這個部分齁,你們這個政見的規定就是說至少直播十幾集,每一集的長度只有20分鐘,而可以使用它既有的網路的內容轉譯成台語或是直播新的台語節目。但是這個部分呢我要提醒就是說,因為它是要推廣台語的使用喔,如果後續入選者他們在台語的使用上或是念法上有疑義,你們有沒有相關的協助可以提供?\n721842\t726344\t就是說投稿的人他本身在製作的時候如果有這樣子需要協助的地方你們可以提供他協助嗎?\n748577\t769475\t應該是說這樣他要製作的時候我們就會要求他一定要有這個條件他不可以沒有台語指導員因為如果沒有的話我們會未來如果他在語言的使用上出現問題的時候其實會引起比較大的爭議啦對那以現在製作節目來說其實都有配置這樣的一個台語的指導員那現在像已經在上映的這些像鹽水大飯店啦這些他其實都有完成這樣的一個責任\n770656\t787153\t市長請教這些入選的作品將來你們截稿之後你們截止徵件之後你們入選的這些作品會透過怎樣的方式來播送是在入選者的個人網路平台還是說你們有一個這樣的頻道來播送這些節目他們在提出這個\n790765\t794608\t所以有入選的作品是在他個人的頻道上播放?至少那你們有沒有去設一個目標就是說他這個節目應該要推廣給多少的人次來觀看?\n818803\t845542\t我們沒有特別的規定在人數流量上的限制目前那如果沒有一個人數流量上的去一個規定的話你們怎麼知道說這樣的節目受不受歡迎以後是不是要日後是不是要再推動這樣子的計畫我們基本上在審查的過程裡面會以這個作為審查的條件之一啦就大家會參考說欸這個節目是不是能夠受歡迎因為是不是能夠受到市場的重視當然也是審查的基礎你總要有一個指標啊\n847205\t847225\t檢驗指標\n871516\t871756\t秀寳委員 次長請問\n","txt":"謝謝主席 那請王次長有請王次長委員好 次長早4月3號的大地震之後餘震不斷那全台都有災情其中也包括我們文化資產的部分本期這邊有向文化部我們這邊來詢問截至到4月17呢你們收到的這些\n回報總共有69處 20處是縣市定的古蹟 32處是歷史建築 1處是文化景觀以及有一處是聚落建築群那你們也初估就是 修算經費大概在3.4億那這邊要請教次長 文化部會不會優先提供這個預算趕快來修復這些文資\n什麼時候會開始?\n﹚陳秀寳﹚\n預計是先將這個會漏的屋頂要先修復喔但是你們預計是5月中旬才會進場修復那現在已經開始慢慢的進入梅雨季節開始會下雨喔那而且這樣的強降雨下來如果說有這樣的裂縫也怕就是漏水進去說會造成建築內部的損壞那這個部分可不可以再提早\n跟委員說明我想有一些會有可能繼續造成損害的地方我們看有沒有一些緊急措施可以採取因為我想這個修復過程還是有需要要找專家的團隊恐怕也沒有辦法說馬上要去修就會有它最緊張當然它修復它有一定的程序但是希望說可以再盡快因為我擔心說這個雨水會造成說內部一些其他的部分也造成損壞了所以希望說這個可能盡快來協助\n今天我們的專報是公視第3台轉型兒少頻道的專報次長不知道你們有沒有注意到我國的無線電視頻道公廣集團占了大概快一半但是根據NCC112年通訊傳播市場的報告來顯示從102年到110年在無線電視頻道的兒童節目大概都只有5%左右在整體節目的播出率佔比是非常的低\n今年,文化部有透過《黑潮計畫》預祝公視6億的經費要來產製優質的兒少節目。在今天的專報有指出,預計在8月20日會正式播出,將公視3台轉為兒少頻道。目前你們所有的建制進度如何?預計以後5%的播出率這麼低,我們可以提升到多少?\n跟委員說明的確提升這個自治率而且是新治率包括整體不管是由公視的自治委制或者是說由民間團隊的合資合製等等的確提升這個是目前的目標那至於說這個8月20號的開台的準備的情況我想可以請公視做一個比較清楚的說明那你可以簡短的說明一下公視這邊\n對公視來說大概就是第一個就要準備開台有哪些節目不管是自製的節目或者是購置的節目都能夠在開台的時候展開那很重要的是這一次公視的這個所謂的小公視的兒少頻道的開台呢不是只有在這個單一頻道它其實包括的是多頻道所以它希望在數位的部分也展開那這個部分會是我們認為未來轉型的一個很大的關鍵因為收視習慣的整個改變大概\n關於我們這個兒童的這個節目戲劇節目比較少其實本席這邊有詢問過影視局112年公告各類型的節目補助的金額總共有3億6千多萬但是補助兒童電視節目只有4550萬只佔整體經費的12%\n顯然我們在製作兒童節目的這個部分是比較缺乏那本席知道說這個是申請的部分是由他們業者主張來申請但是文化部這邊是不是有一些比較好的誘因或是有\n是不是說他的誘因就不足啊?\n我想右鷹的部分兩個第一個當然是針對補助的額度那第二個我覺得還關鍵仍然是量能其實可以看到公視在這一次的真案裡面如果民間他沒有相關的經驗或者是他本來產生量能不足的情況下即使我們拿出高額的獎金或者是補助也不一定會有案子可以解決\n我們希望展開的是呼籲,就是說我們跟他們一起合作,因為其實在過去的這些年來大家可以看到就是說在整體的製作節目上幾乎是這個公共電視的這個集團包括公視、客語台、他語台、圓明台負擔了主要兒少製作的節目\n這邊你們可以釋出資源來跟業者合作來協助應該對於這個節目的殘滯會有些幫助資金跟人才可能可以透過這樣的合作陪伴富裕跟補助的這個獎金同時來下手可以讓這整個量能有比較好的改善跟提升這是目前的計畫\n市長這邊再請教您根據NCC的報告以及文策院2023年台灣兒少影視內容觀影行為調查也顯示無線電視在我國收看的人數是逐年的下降同時OTT平台是逐年的上升而且在4到10歲的兒少部分又以收視OTT平台影音為主那市長\n這一次我們公視兒少檯目我們預計用怎樣的方式可以來吸引兒少來觀看那我們在頻道設立的初期有沒有設定收視的目標有沒有這樣子的一個自己設定的目標來達成這樣的達成率\n好,第一個就是幾個變相,第一個公視Plus它本來就有在經營這個數位的平台,在去年也改版了,那也用所謂的親子家庭專區這個方式,用分鄰的方式來促進大家可以養成這樣的收視習慣。那另外就是在這個小公視的開台之後呢,也包括這個公視的兒少的網路平台,兒少的YouTube,還有這個公視Plus這個專區,這幾個\n﹚陳秀寳\n市長目前我們公視兒少頻道的直播節目有沒有針對兒少的需求不同\n或是根據他們的作息他們的時間來安排直播的節目的不同以及安排這些時段我們有做這樣子的規劃嗎的確公視現在就是以不同的年齡層的需求來進行規劃所以可以分為可以看到就在學齡前像2到6歲他所提供的可能就是音樂啦肢體啊遊戲這一類那如果是學齡的7到12歲他提供就會包括科學實驗啦實境節目啦外景計時這一類那如果是12到18歲青少年呢他就會出現解謎啦或者是這個親子\n目前兒少收視以OTT平台為主\n以我國目前訂閱率比較高的OTT平台為例上面的兒童專區的部分並沒有像一般的頁面有選擇台灣節目的部分所以說以後我們公視自播的節目會不會有推廣到OTT平台的這些規劃?\n有,這個就是我們希望努力的,所以我的這個建議我們也非常希望可以做到,如果未來在OT的平台上可以看到公視的不管是我們自己製作的戲劇節目或者是兒童的節目,我想會是一個最好的選項。那也謝謝次長你有這樣的想法,因為文化部我們投入了近6億的預算,讓公視來直播優質的兒少節目,那應該也要\n除了在我們公視三台播出之外應該持續推廣到兒童現在兒少比較主要收視的OTT平台讓更多的這些兒少可以觀看到我們台灣自製的優質的節目那本席有發現在無線電視的節目播放方面其實重播率從103年到111年大概都是大概五成左右但是從108年開始一路飆升到將近六成\n但是台語節目在無線電視的播放占比從111年的有將近兩成到110年又回到大概一成出頭那今年我們執行的這個黑潮計畫有提升我國自製優質節目的數量推廣我國的影視音音的文化但是在電視台的重播率卻持續的攀升部長您覺得說我們要如何來推動這個台語發展的業務\n如何來推動我們多次播台語節目應該如何改善你們有什麼目標我們現在的做法是這樣因為我們有這個母語計畫就是希望來推動整體使用台語的情況那我們現在做法倒不一定是直接製作台語的節目包括\n陳秀寳議員\n﹚陳秀寳\n因為還沒有截止,所以你們沒有大家去看一下說來申請的人有不有願,來投稿的人?\n對,因為總的來說大概都要到截止日前案件才會湧進來比較完整,我們可以到截止日之後再跟你們說。這個部分齁,你們這個政見的規定就是說至少直播十幾集,每一集的長度只有20分鐘,而可以使用它既有的網路的內容轉譯成台語或是直播新的台語節目。但是這個部分呢我要提醒就是說,因為它是要推廣台語的使用喔,如果後續入選者他們在台語的使用上或是念法上有疑義,你們有沒有相關的協助可以提供?\n就是說投稿的人他本身在製作的時候如果有這樣子需要協助的地方你們可以提供他協助嗎?\n應該是說這樣他要製作的時候我們就會要求他一定要有這個條件他不可以沒有台語指導員因為如果沒有的話我們會未來如果他在語言的使用上出現問題的時候其實會引起比較大的爭議啦對那以現在製作節目來說其實都有配置這樣的一個台語的指導員那現在像已經在上映的這些像鹽水大飯店啦這些他其實都有完成這樣的一個責任\n市長請教這些入選的作品將來你們截稿之後你們截止徵件之後你們入選的這些作品會透過怎樣的方式來播送是在入選者的個人網路平台還是說你們有一個這樣的頻道來播送這些節目他們在提出這個\n所以有入選的作品是在他個人的頻道上播放?至少那你們有沒有去設一個目標就是說他這個節目應該要推廣給多少的人次來觀看?\n我們沒有特別的規定在人數流量上的限制目前那如果沒有一個人數流量上的去一個規定的話你們怎麼知道說這樣的節目受不受歡迎以後是不是要日後是不是要再推動這樣子的計畫我們基本上在審查的過程裡面會以這個作為審查的條件之一啦就大家會參考說欸這個節目是不是能夠受歡迎因為是不是能夠受到市場的重視當然也是審查的基礎你總要有一個指標啊\n檢驗指標\n秀寳委員 次長請問\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.213 --> 00:08.274\n謝謝主席那請王次長有請王次長委員好次長早4月3號的大地震之後餘震不斷那全台都有災情其中也包括我們文化資產的部分本期這邊有向文化部我們這邊來詢問截至到4月17呢你們收到的這些\n\n00:31.843 --> 00:53.086\n回報總共有69處20處是縣市定的古蹟32處是歷史建築1處是文化景觀以及有一處是聚落建築群那你們也初估就是修算經費大概在3.4億那這邊要請教次長文化部會不會優先提供這個預算趕快來修復這些文資\n\n00:54.187 --> 00:54.307\n什麼時候會開始?\n\n01:12.352 --> 01:12.372\n﹚陳秀寳﹚\n\n01:36.211 --> 01:53.739\n預計是先將這個會漏的屋頂要先修復喔但是你們預計是5月中旬才會進場修復那現在已經開始慢慢的進入梅雨季節開始會下雨喔那而且這樣的強降雨下來如果說有這樣的裂縫也怕就是漏水進去說會造成建築內部的損壞那這個部分可不可以再提早\n\n01:59.201 --> 02:24.812\n跟委員說明我想有一些會有可能繼續造成損害的地方我們看有沒有一些緊急措施可以採取因為我想這個修復過程還是有需要要找專家的團隊恐怕也沒有辦法說馬上要去修就會有它最緊張當然它修復它有一定的程序但是希望說可以再盡快因為我擔心說這個雨水會造成說內部一些其他的部分也造成損壞了所以希望說這個可能盡快來協助\n\n02:28.119 --> 02:43.086\n今天我們的專報是公視第3台轉型兒少頻道的專報次長不知道你們有沒有注意到我國的無線電視頻道公廣集團占了大概快一半但是根據NCC112年通訊傳播市場的報告來顯示從102年到110年在無線電視頻道的兒童節目大概都只有5%左右在整體節目的播出率佔比是非常的低\n\n02:55.411 --> 03:00.877\n今年,文化部有透過《黑潮計畫》預祝公視6億的經費要來產製優質的兒少節目。在今天的專報有指出,預計在8月20日會正式播出,將公視3台轉為兒少頻道。目前你們所有的建制進度如何?預計以後5%的播出率這麼低,我們可以提升到多少?\n\n03:19.935 --> 03:39.791\n跟委員說明的確提升這個自治率而且是新治率包括整體不管是由公視的自治委制或者是說由民間團隊的合資合製等等的確提升這個是目前的目標那至於說這個8月20號的開台的準備的情況我想可以請公視做一個比較清楚的說明那你可以簡短的說明一下公視這邊\n\n03:40.792 --> 04:00.992\n對公視來說大概就是第一個就要準備開台有哪些節目不管是自製的節目或者是購置的節目都能夠在開台的時候展開那很重要的是這一次公視的這個所謂的小公視的兒少頻道的開台呢不是只有在這個單一頻道它其實包括的是多頻道所以它希望在數位的部分也展開那這個部分會是我們認為未來轉型的一個很大的關鍵因為收視習慣的整個改變大概\n\n04:04.696 --> 04:07.157\n關於我們這個兒童的這個節目戲劇節目比較少其實本席這邊有詢問過影視局112年公告各類型的節目補助的金額總共有3億6千多萬但是補助兒童電視節目只有4550萬只佔整體經費的12%\n\n04:31.068 --> 04:46.296\n顯然我們在製作兒童節目的這個部分是比較缺乏那本席知道說這個是申請的部分是由他們業者主張來申請但是文化部這邊是不是有一些比較好的誘因或是有\n\n04:47.136 --> 04:47.657\n是不是說他的誘因就不足啊?\n\n05:10.616 --> 05:27.616\n我想右鷹的部分兩個第一個當然是針對補助的額度那第二個我覺得還關鍵仍然是量能其實可以看到公視在這一次的真案裡面如果民間他沒有相關的經驗或者是他本來產生量能不足的情況下即使我們拿出高額的獎金或者是補助也不一定會有案子可以解決\n\n05:27.756 --> 05:30.378\n我們希望展開的是呼籲,就是說我們跟他們一起合作,因為其實在過去的這些年來大家可以看到就是說在整體的製作節目上幾乎是這個公共電視的這個集團包括公視、客語台、他語台、圓明台負擔了主要兒少製作的節目\n\n05:48.428 --> 06:05.790\n這邊你們可以釋出資源來跟業者合作來協助應該對於這個節目的殘滯會有些幫助資金跟人才可能可以透過這樣的合作陪伴富裕跟補助的這個獎金同時來下手可以讓這整個量能有比較好的改善跟提升這是目前的計畫\n\n06:06.451 --> 06:27.777\n市長這邊再請教您根據NCC的報告以及文策院2023年台灣兒少影視內容觀影行為調查也顯示無線電視在我國收看的人數是逐年的下降同時OTT平台是逐年的上升而且在4到10歲的兒少部分又以收視OTT平台影音為主那市長\n\n06:28.997 --> 06:42.782\n這一次我們公視兒少檯目我們預計用怎樣的方式可以來吸引兒少來觀看那我們在頻道設立的初期有沒有設定收視的目標有沒有這樣子的一個自己設定的目標來達成這樣的達成率\n\n06:45.199 --> 07:07.139\n好,第一個就是幾個變相,第一個公視Plus它本來就有在經營這個數位的平台,在去年也改版了,那也用所謂的親子家庭專區這個方式,用分鄰的方式來促進大家可以養成這樣的收視習慣。那另外就是在這個小公視的開台之後呢,也包括這個公視的兒少的網路平台,兒少的YouTube,還有這個公視Plus這個專區,這幾個\n\n07:09.718 --> 07:09.738\n﹚陳秀寳\n\n07:25.094 --> 07:25.975\n市長目前我們公視兒少頻道的直播節目有沒有針對兒少的需求不同\n\n07:54.895 --> 08:14.319\n或是根據他們的作息他們的時間來安排直播的節目的不同以及安排這些時段我們有做這樣子的規劃嗎的確公視現在就是以不同的年齡層的需求來進行規劃所以可以分為可以看到就在學齡前像2到6歲他所提供的可能就是音樂啦肢體啊遊戲這一類那如果是學齡的7到12歲他提供就會包括科學實驗啦實境節目啦外景計時這一類那如果是12到18歲青少年呢他就會出現解謎啦或者是這個親子\n\n08:24.301 --> 08:24.742\n目前兒少收視以OTT平台為主\n\n08:41.102 --> 08:44.486\n以我國目前訂閱率比較高的OTT平台為例上面的兒童專區的部分並沒有像一般的頁面有選擇台灣節目的部分所以說以後我們公視自播的節目會不會有推廣到OTT平台的這些規劃?\n\n08:57.438 --> 09:14.286\n有,這個就是我們希望努力的,所以我的這個建議我們也非常希望可以做到,如果未來在OT的平台上可以看到公視的不管是我們自己製作的戲劇節目或者是兒童的節目,我想會是一個最好的選項。那也謝謝次長你有這樣的想法,因為文化部我們投入了近6億的預算,讓公視來直播優質的兒少節目,那應該也要\n\n09:19.088 --> 09:25.634\n除了在我們公視三台播出之外應該持續推廣到兒童現在兒少比較主要收視的OTT平台讓更多的這些兒少可以觀看到我們台灣自製的優質的節目那本席有發現在無線電視的節目播放方面其實重播率從103年到111年大概都是大概五成左右但是從108年開始一路飆升到將近六成\n\n09:43.772 --> 09:51.895\n但是台語節目在無線電視的播放占比從111年的有將近兩成到110年又回到大概一成出頭那今年我們執行的這個黑潮計畫有提升我國自製優質節目的數量推廣我國的影視音音的文化但是在電視台的重播率卻持續的攀升部長您覺得說我們要如何來推動這個台語發展的業務\n\n10:11.761 --> 10:26.670\n如何來推動我們多次播台語節目應該如何改善你們有什麼目標我們現在的做法是這樣因為我們有這個母語計畫就是希望來推動整體使用台語的情況那我們現在做法倒不一定是直接製作台語的節目包括\n\n10:27.270 --> 10:27.290\n陳秀寳議員\n\n10:48.914 --> 10:48.934\n﹚陳秀寳\n\n11:10.097 --> 11:12.420\n因為還沒有截止,所以你們沒有大家去看一下說來申請的人有不有願,來投稿的人?\n\n11:30.041 --> 11:59.601\n對,因為總的來說大概都要到截止日前案件才會湧進來比較完整,我們可以到截止日之後再跟你們說。這個部分齁,你們這個政見的規定就是說至少直播十幾集,每一集的長度只有20分鐘,而可以使用它既有的網路的內容轉譯成台語或是直播新的台語節目。但是這個部分呢我要提醒就是說,因為它是要推廣台語的使用喔,如果後續入選者他們在台語的使用上或是念法上有疑義,你們有沒有相關的協助可以提供?\n\n12:01.842 --> 12:06.344\n就是說投稿的人他本身在製作的時候如果有這樣子需要協助的地方你們可以提供他協助嗎?\n\n12:28.577 --> 12:49.475\n應該是說這樣他要製作的時候我們就會要求他一定要有這個條件他不可以沒有台語指導員因為如果沒有的話我們會未來如果他在語言的使用上出現問題的時候其實會引起比較大的爭議啦對那以現在製作節目來說其實都有配置這樣的一個台語的指導員那現在像已經在上映的這些像鹽水大飯店啦這些他其實都有完成這樣的一個責任\n\n12:50.656 --> 13:07.153\n市長請教這些入選的作品將來你們截稿之後你們截止徵件之後你們入選的這些作品會透過怎樣的方式來播送是在入選者的個人網路平台還是說你們有一個這樣的頻道來播送這些節目他們在提出這個\n\n13:10.765 --> 13:14.608\n所以有入選的作品是在他個人的頻道上播放?至少那你們有沒有去設一個目標就是說他這個節目應該要推廣給多少的人次來觀看?\n\n13:38.803 --> 14:05.542\n我們沒有特別的規定在人數流量上的限制目前那如果沒有一個人數流量上的去一個規定的話你們怎麼知道說這樣的節目受不受歡迎以後是不是要日後是不是要再推動這樣子的計畫我們基本上在審查的過程裡面會以這個作為審查的條件之一啦就大家會參考說欸這個節目是不是能夠受歡迎因為是不是能夠受到市場的重視當然也是審查的基礎你總要有一個指標啊\n\n14:07.205 --> 14:07.225\n檢驗指標\n\n14:31.516 --> 14:31.756\n秀寳委員次長請問\n\n","segments":[{"start":5.213,"end":8.274,"text":"謝謝主席 那請王次長有請王次長委員好 次長早4月3號的大地震之後餘震不斷那全台都有災情其中也包括我們文化資產的部分本期這邊有向文化部我們這邊來詢問截至到4月17呢你們收到的這些"},{"start":31.843,"end":53.086,"text":"回報總共有69處 20處是縣市定的古蹟 32處是歷史建築 1處是文化景觀以及有一處是聚落建築群那你們也初估就是 修算經費大概在3.4億那這邊要請教次長 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