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00:04:18,362\n在民國83年8月1號才改為上報才改為那個原住民但是具謂服務法在立法院尊重原住民的情況之下在民國81年具謂服務法就用原住民這三個字所以立法院是一個展現人民意志的地方而基於少數的原住民\n\n11\n00:04:19,540 --> 00:04:43,049\n怎麼樣去落實政府、中華民國政府怎麼樣去落實憲法徵修條文第十條第十二項的規定就是要靠立法院所以要靠立法院就必須怎麼樣去重視原住民的立法委員的意見所以本席跟高金素梅立委特別提到\n\n12\n00:04:45,433 --> 00:05:08,898\n對於這個黨團的成立,原住民立委應該要有一個自主性,而不要受到相關的這些,因為加入原住民黨團的時候,原來的那個政黨就必須要退出,像這樣的怎麼樣去解決,所以本席提出這樣的一個條文。秘書長你的意見如何?\n\n13\n00:05:09,885 --> 00:05:09,905\n案。\n\n14\n00:05:23,964 --> 00:05:47,389\n檔團第一項裡面是排除嘛但是那個總數啊檔團的這個總數現在是五個那我有跟他報告如果這個立法政策決定要修正的話那就要加上那幾個文字的我已經有跟高金委員報告過我這邊其實文字是可以再檢討但怎麼樣去那個去保障這個部分\n\n15\n00:05:48,308 --> 00:06:08,594\n另外就是上次有跟這個秘書長稍微提了一下原住民的立法委員的選期因為是台、彭、金吧但是現在立法院的所有的對立委個別的相關的權益都是用7億的立委的去規劃像這個\n\n16\n00:06:12,956 --> 00:06:16,097\n條文修正草案．立法院組織法部分條文修正草案．立法院組織法部分條文修正草案\n\n17\n00:06:39,947 --> 00:07:04,005\n從新走雲到滿洲鄉還要兩個小時六分鐘所以這麼遠的時間一個小時加三十四分加兩個小時加六分等於是三個多小時將近四個小時我只是舉例子如果從花蓮出發要到滿洲鄉也一樣搭火車到訪寮三個小時三十五分鐘訪寮到滿洲要一個多小時\n\n18\n00:07:06,502 --> 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--> 00:21.683\n委員天才發言。主席、各位委員、有請秘書長。請做秘書長。秘書長好。是。\n\n00:29.372 --> 00:51.657\n這個憲法徵修條文的第十條第十二項規定國家因依民族意願保障原住民組織地位及政治參與而且還特別明定要制定原住民族基本法以及還有很多相關的法例在105年8月1號\n\n00:55.580 --> 00:56.060\n案案案案案案案\n\n01:19.469 --> 01:45.436\n這是他的承諾在105年8月1號就任之後向全國的人民承諾會很快的將原住民組織法及原住民組土地及海域法送到立法院甚至行政院的秘書長在105年年底\n\n01:46.451 --> 02:14.592\n也特別先是還且講了兩次會在105年12月底以前把這個原住民族土地及海域法送到立法院但是因為第九屆、第十屆的立法院民進黨絕對多數所以相關他們不需要的法律他們就請行政院就不要送來\n\n02:15.987 --> 02:44.755\n所以已經承諾的事情寧可防悔不送來是這樣的一個情形所以呢本席跟高金素梅立委特別提出這個立法院組織法第三十三條的條文因為現行的條文對基於少數的原住民立委而言完全必須要看這個\n\n02:46.499 --> 03:07.231\n政黨到底要不要支持顏住民的條款所以在這樣一個情形之下我們顏住民的立委要去推動的相關的這些法律必須要看哪一個政黨願意支持而在過去的這麼多年來立法院過去\n\n03:08.663 --> 03:23.293\n都很重視原住民,但是在過去的八年來,我們非常非常的失望。我就舉個例子。就業服務法,民國81年三讀通過,其中24條,當時的憲法還是叫三包。\n\n03:32.554 --> 03:49.970\n但是當時的就業服務法三讀通過的時候原住民的立委說商包要行政院的草案送到立法院是商包就業服務法原住民的立委說要改為原住民雖然憲法\n\n03:51.954 --> 04:18.362\n在民國83年8月1號才改為上報才改為那個原住民但是具謂服務法在立法院尊重原住民的情況之下在民國81年具謂服務法就用原住民這三個字所以立法院是一個展現人民意志的地方而基於少數的原住民\n\n04:19.540 --> 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