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有請王次長跟胡董事長委員好好\n我請教一下我們公視今年8月就要創造一個我們的兒少傳播這樣就是我們是感到很開心但是在這個平台及新媒體的服務針對不同的年齡的兒童\n分不同的規劃來製作這樣的節目幫助兒童適應的發展本席非常支持全面升級的保障同時我們也需要思考怎麼樣藉由這樣的平台有那個多元共榮\n文化共榮這樣子的一個平台目前我們在學校上課的新二代我們有40萬人但是就學了29萬多所以我們也希望說透過這個平台讓他有更多不同的頻道來去學習所以我們希望說透過這個頻道增加一些元素就會減少我們的新二代在學校的霸凌\n因為我們是要教小孩有時候很多新住民的媽媽不敢帶小孩到學校進入跟他們一起進入家長會所以呢也導致小孩子失去很多的信心所以我們希望說透過這樣子的多元化讓大家可以再進入這樣的元素建議兒少在全面的\n主席麥玉珍\n請教一下委員所說的正是我們現在希望透過公共電視來達到的目標那是特別針對兒少頻道來說公共電視目前的規劃就是會針對分領提供它不同的節目形態同時呢特別是在語言上跟族群上原上除了台灣已經原本在使用的台語、客語原住民語外還有新住民語所以包括現在\n公視也有製作自製新著名語節目有65集越南語節目的這個計畫目的就是希望可以透過多元的這個節目規劃呢讓族群之間互相理解那只有互相理解才能夠學習互相尊重平等對待所以我想在兒少的頻道上我們希望小朋友從小時候就理解台灣是一個多元文化多元族群的\n我們的題材是什麼我們怎麼樣真的達到這樣子的多元文化這個才是\n我們希望說這樣子的一個元素剛才有聽說就是說我們有\n新住民與這個部分剛才我有聽其他委員問的時候有說我們是不同的時段來去播出嘛\n一方面就是說這個節目目前規劃這個帶狀是在8點多啦所以基本上應該還是在兒童可收看的範圍那第二是說其實我們也在平台上架所以它也透過可以去選擇的機制可以去看\n是可以讓說不同的時段我們有選擇的那個時間嗎?我們可以選擇同樣的時段我們可以選擇就是不同的語言嗎?它在網路上架的時候就可以選擇在那個想要收看的時段收看不受限於頻道是在網路嗎?是在電視上就沒有嗎?在網路就是我們現在是沒有固定的時段固定的時段是中文嗎?\n我們現在新住民語的話,我們納入幾種語言?\n目前有越南語已經在製作當中其他大概會持續地進行其他語種的規劃希望就是我們以人數的掙扎幾個語言好不好不要只有越南這樣子的話我就會被其他國家搞怕你越南你叫我顧越南\n⋯⋯⋯⋯\n我們公視裏面現在有就是剛才講說我們有很多不同國家的頻道嘛所以這樣的話我們也可以在這邊的話可以做一點就是增加一點心啦因為我們現在少子的話要生小孩的人就不多啊今天我們就是把一些資源用在我們兒少這邊更多才是真正的我們就是要栽培我們下一代啦這個部分說希望說這個部分要\n麥玉珍委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:10.071 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