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00:01:54,090\n那這個部分有沒有一個檢討報告那有沒有轉型的計畫跟之後文化跟體育方面的比重的討論呢向委員報告就是在做轉型的時候我們做過評估那您關注到這個體育的部分我們第一個我們在主評還是會播那涉及到兒少體育的部分我們也會在公視兒少台裡可以再處理\n\n6\n00:01:54,790 --> 00:02:22,034\n那藝文的部分也是一樣我們會在相關的頻道裡面做平衡的處理那特別跟委員報告的是我們在加速數位轉型所以相關的體育跟藝文包括在我們現在的OTT平台公視家還有其他的網路平台包括YouTube等等我們都會來加強做處理這點可以請委員放心所以就是你們未來的這個兒少台本身就不再處理文化跟體育這個部分嗎?\n\n7\n00:02:22,894 --> 00:02:41,396\n就是兒少的體育會在兒少台處理跟兒少有關的藝文會在兒少頻道其他的部分我們基本上就頻道來講會到公視、主評甚至還有台語台、客家台分別擔負他們在多元文化方面的藝文跟體育的責任\n\n8\n00:02:41,596 --> 00:03:06,084\n所以就是只有那個跟兒少相關的文化體育才會留在這個兒少台嘛其他就轉移到別的部分那當然就是說這是你們一個選擇那我想提供一下別的國家的例子那我們辦公室研究就是NHK的他的兒少頻道也播文化節目那體育賽事直播當然你剛講體育賽事的部分有別的頻道這是NHK的部分\n\n9\n00:03:06,944 --> 00:03:19,159\nBBC4主要就是藝文的兒童的部分有CBBC跟CBBICE可是你可以看到在實際的做法上針對6歲以下兒童的CBBICE\n\n10\n00:03:22,182 --> 00:03:25,928\n是跟4名稱上是不一樣但是其實是共享一個頻道的不同時段因為兒少活躍的時間跟成年人不一樣所以兒少活躍的時間就播兒少節目那入夜後就播藝文節目\n\n11\n00:03:38,105 --> 00:03:56,017\n這也是一種處理的方式,我想無論是NHK跟BBC你可以看到,他們努力的在有限的頻道裡面同時重視兒少,然後文化跟運動賽事的這些部分並沒有顧此失彼,那所以您剛講到好像也沒有顧此失彼,可是就\n\n12\n00:03:56,377 --> 00:03:56,397\n﹝提問﹞\n\n13\n00:04:14,732 --> 00:04:33,828\n的確沒有在比例上做一定的要求不過在政策方向上是做剛才提到的這樣的一個處理不過我們也內部也在研議是不是跨平台有重要國際賽事的時候我們所有的頻道可能都要做相關的應用處理這點我們也沒有排除在外跟我們報告一下\n\n14\n00:04:33,968 --> 00:04:34,108\n委員會主席\n\n15\n00:04:55,635 --> 00:05:16,096\n因為畢竟公視是唯一一個能夠以就是不用考慮商業就藝文跟體育的方向能夠讓大家都能夠平等的觀看的那這個部分是不是你們能夠參考國際經驗不管是NHK或者是BBC那往這個方向做一個比例上的規劃然後可以給本席一個報告呢?\n\n16\n00:05:16,820 --> 00:05:43,997\n好我們來處理好那另外我也想問大家都關心的這個國內外的體育賽事那我是非常的支持我們公視要努力爭取重要賽事的播映權那公視2016年2021年都有轉播奧運那我們看到新聞就是2024年中華電信取得新媒體轉播權MOD還有這個哈密video可看我想問一下\n\n17\n00:05:45,337 --> 00:06:10,622\n2024年公視會不會有相關的合作呢?因為我覺得國人如果可以不用額外付費可以看到我們國家代表隊的重要賽事非常的重要那可以請問一下公視有沒有這方面的規劃爭取呢?有,跟委員很明確的報告我們2024年的巴黎奧運我們都已經跟相關的單位這個愛爾達做好的討論那我們確定有轉播權而且合約已經簽訂完成\n\n18\n00:06:12,418 --> 00:06:40,167\n謝謝所以確定我們不需要付費就可以在公視頻道看到那這是非常重要的好消息那未來也希望是往這個方向好嗎因為公視畢竟是國家的也是全民的那最後呢我也想針對就是國表藝就是文化部國表藝下轄的3個場館每年都有非常多優質的藝文節目那文化部其實有很好的先天條件那可以我們可以爭取把這些表演的線上化\n\n19\n00:06:41,007 --> 00:06:41,047\n主席\n\n20\n00:06:56,388 --> 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