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八條及第三十九條條文修正草案」案；六、委員葛如鈞等16人擬具「兒童及少年\n性剝削防制條例第三十九條及第四十四條條文修正草案」案；七、委員徐巧芯等24人擬具「兒童\n及少年性剝削防制條例部分條文修正草案」案；八、委員陳冠廷等18人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削\n防制條例部分條文修正草案」案；九、委員黃健豪等17人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例部分\n條文修正草案」案；十、委員林宜瑾等26人擬具「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例增訂第三十九條之\n一條文草案」案；十一、委員李坤城等 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--> 00:00:41,915\n然後這個當中您做了很多的反質詢。那我告訴您說,我從健保署開辦民國84年到我的校期及任期時到明年2月,總共有30年的這個聘書,歷經四位總統。那我跟你討論要價的時候,您跟我講了一句話,那時候大概是29年多。您跟我說我29年來都是錯的。\n\n3\n00:00:44,284 --> 00:01:10,967\n所以部長我今天有兩個方式讓你做選擇第一個你要收回這句話還是你要收回我30年的從衛福部發出來的聘書請你做選擇聘書是無從去收回啦那至於我說的話是否是正點來說我們大家都可以來做討論啦你要收回這句話嗎你說我29年都是錯你要收回這句話嗎\n\n4\n00:01:12,027 --> 00:01:28,857\n這可以大家來討論什麼要討論就是你說的你反質詢我最後一張告訴你怎麼投資不足投資不足然後管理失當包括這個分級醫療沒有落實以藥養醫醫你說叫我拿出證據部長我再告訴你區區的衛福部醫院你怎麼管理的好第一張\n\n5\n00:01:38,099 --> 00:02:04,271\n這麼基本的衛福部26家醫院第一個賴在副總統承諾內閣單一性別不低於三分之一雖然他也是大跳票我們來檢視你的這個衛福部醫院好院長的比例是24比2男比女是24比2這兩個25、20還借其認滿搞不好你都換成男生就是26比0副院長是29比3部長台灣一屆沒有女性人才嗎請說\n\n6\n00:02:07,012 --> 00:02:24,344\n在過去那在因為院長、院長、副院長過去尤其是院長他是負責醫師所以他一定都是有醫師來做因為過去早期的時候那男性的醫師是占多數女性醫師是比較少的\n\n7\n00:02:25,195 --> 00:02:53,737\n女性有百分之二十二,我查過了,也有五分之一,部長不要,不要找藉口。部長,我去查詢的時候,部長我查詢的時候我發現一件事情,副院長是雙軌制,你有臨聘辦法、臨選辦法,但是有所謂的院聘副院長,還有一個所謂的跑出助理院長,部長,可以這樣子嗎?他是正式職位嗎?在官網上可以張貼嗎?現在都還有所謂的院聘副院長,不臨選嗎?\n\n8\n00:02:55,237 --> 00:03:14,783\n都是要臨選的。沒有!因為聘副院長沒有臨選,就是院內自己聘,你也允許。外部部官網上都有張貼,你怎麼管你的?毫無章法!下一張。部長、院長重不重要?外部部院長重不重要?請問什麼時候要代理?什麼時候要進行代理?\n\n9\n00:03:15,776 --> 00:03:41,716\n好,代理當然是一個過渡期啊。好,過渡期。好,停在這裡。代理時間過長是不是好事情?當然不是好事情。好,不是好事情。我們上去查。因為網站上有很多沒有歷任院長之後,我就先排除。那我找得到的部分,部長請你看一下。嗯。代理六個月、六個月、六個月。有關嘉義跟岐山我還可以理解,因為偏遠地區嘛。也許未必有人想去。好,那嘉義有一任代理有12個月。\n\n10\n00:03:43,769 --> 00:04:04,672\n院長我知道所有的院長為什麼零是做得很好因為知道院期這個院長任期屆滿的時候前兩個月都進行零選那有些時候是到期才去零選所以就會到代理我發現代理好代理是越短越好對不對因為要無縫接軌對不對院長這麼重要好我們看下一張\n\n11\n00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:35,555\n外福部桃園醫院2022年7月徐祐年院長介林任期滿,留了22個月的時間給誰?22個月,22個月代理期,第一個醫院沒有人才嗎?第二個,沒有人想去這個最肥養的地方嗎?這個最牆下最大的醫院嗎?第三,這個代理院長不夠格嗎?既然代理22個月,為什麼不直接生他?\n\n12\n00:04:37,263 --> 00:05:01,829\n因為...部長今天答案已經出來了我本來有今天早上答案還沒有出來王必勝院長、王必勝市長需不需要先把這個位置空了22個月等他自己過去?這沒有沒有?沒有他不去當院長嗎?據我所知他...他沒有要去當院長,好我們等著看他是不是跟我講沒有我們等著看今天報紙已經出來了一個人居然可以為人設室堂堂公家醫院22個月\n\n13\n00:05:04,858 --> 00:05:08,333\n禾園醫院22個院沒有正式院長是代理院長\n\n14\n00:05:09,724 --> 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