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00:01:20,115\n相信大家有在使用網路的人都有發現到最近這樣的一個問題就是我們經常在網路社群發現網路新聞都是用很聳動的這個標題但點選新聞連結的時候才發現說這個根本就不是在台灣的新聞我們看一下\n\n4\n00:01:33,440 --> 00:02:01,025\n這些狀況來71歲竟然還遇到這樣的職場霸凌然後在辦公室自殺結果我們點進去看原來這個是在中國遼寧省發生的事情那另外接下來這一則還寫亂倫還在開直播的新聞那點進去看那這件這個新聞也是發生在中國\n\n5\n00:02:02,592 --> 00:02:27,674\n還有網紅美女慘死街頭的新聞我們再把它點進去看之後呢結果這個新聞是發生在美國再來19歲在公園的這個分屍案再點進去看也是發生在美國那這個接下來這個\n\n6\n00:02:29,782 --> 00:02:49,708\n這一則再點進去看,它這個分析案它是在英國。那我們這些平台上的這個新聞,就是說我們如果點進去看,最多啦,我們就是看下去感覺就是被騙了,就是被騙了這個點閱。\n\n7\n00:02:51,548 --> 00:03:08,037\n那有點進去還好,那如果沒有點進去看,我們整天都是看這些標題的時候,你會不會覺得說,這整個台灣的社會怎麼變得這麼亂?那我們姑且不去討論它這個新聞的內容是真的還是假的。\n\n8\n00:03:08,737 --> 00:03:32,869\n那是國外記者的新聞還是網路上抄回來未經查證的消息?這樣的亂象不管是怎麼樣我們政府都應該要向媒體來進行道德勸說要跟他們好好溝通因為我先強調這些在網路社群平台的新聞它並不是自媒體\n\n9\n00:03:34,630 --> 00:03:54,540\n而是這是很多各家新聞台或者是廣播或者是這個報紙雜誌以及這個著名的網路新聞那我要請教一下NCC這個新聞台呢或者這個廣播頻道他們在社群平台發這樣的新聞你們管還是不管?\n\n10\n00:03:55,941 --> 00:04:10,798\n報告委員因為現在的廣電法或者是衛廣法他管的就是那些頻道那至於網路新聞呢就算是這些頻道業者另外一個那個成立一個新聞網對我特別特別問\n\n11\n00:04:11,739 --> 00:04:15,161\n目前的做法就是在促使業者是不是訂定或完備他們網路新聞的自律公約,那我們目前也是在努力。\n\n12\n00:04:38,100 --> 00:05:05,673\n好,我很謝謝你念這一段在我們關心了這個議題之後那這個電視新聞台就是說因為這樣的你們之前就好像看起來沒辦法那平面媒體他是歸文化部管那如果平面媒體在社群平台發這樣的新聞其實文化部也是不管的所以我是另外我再請教一下那個數位發展部\n\n13\n00:05:07,034 --> 00:05:07,914\n報導委員有關網路世界、網路\n\n14\n00:05:33,649 --> 00:05:37,412\n議員林岱樺等20人擬具:「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第八條、第三十九條及第五十一條條文修正草案案。」案。\n\n15\n00:06:02,854 --> 00:06:15,751\n我今天提出這個灰色的這個三不管地帶或者踢皮球的地帶我現在講這個情形他其實嚴格說起來他並沒有一個嚴重違法的狀況\n\n16\n00:06:17,453 --> 00:06:39,446\n我們只是說希望這個主管機關對於他們這些狀況和這些媒體可以進行溝通、進行道德勸說因為台灣的治安其實沒有那麼可怕社會整個的道德也沒有那麼差不要因為這些聳動的標題或簡短的敘述搞得我們人心惶惶對於現在就是說\n\n17\n00:06:42,728 --> 00:07:09,247\n而大多數人使用率相當高的這個網路媒體那上面網路新聞呈現的一個情況目前竟然沒有任何一個沒有任何一個主管機關就是說有主動可以跟他們進行溝通跟道德勸說這是一個還蠻奇怪的狀況所以那個我是在這邊今天質詢在要求就是說\n\n18\n00:07:10,487 --> 00:07:31,872\n網路的數位產業發展是數位部的業務結果網路新聞呈現的情況卻涉及刑法或民法就依照各主管機關去處理這些電視、廣播或平面媒體的主管機關之前我們去關心也是說網路上的行為不歸他們管\n\n19\n00:07:32,712 --> 00:07:49,930\n而不是像你們今天好像講的都要去關心了那未來這個行政院的這個資通安全匯報應該要對這個問題要馬上進行討論但是我希望我今天提到的問題你們要立刻有一些作為\n\n20\n00:07:50,891 --> 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