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00:02:29,582\n部長對民眾的承諾啊,你們現在是變睡美人了嗎?你們沉睡了一年,我們沒有看到你們提出的方法。我再講一次,你們變成數位發展部變睡美人,已經睡了一年,過了一個月,還沒有提出方法來嗎?欸,不輸定,你如果不知道今天數位發展部誰派你來,這不是你主管的業務嗎?\n\n8\n00:02:41,556 --> 00:02:42,156\n副所長你知道多少人去搶這個門票嗎?\n\n9\n00:03:10,773 --> 00:03:36,329\n剛剛委員有說大概加起來是將近十萬吧六萬再加三萬等等兩副兩梯次搶票的人有五十四萬三十六就秒殺了你就知道台灣人都在搶著要去聽張學友的演唱會我給大家看一下你看一下這個是人家來檢舉他好不容易搶到票了五十萬分之一搶到票了你看這個圖結果簡訊過來了\n\n10\n00:03:40,578 --> 00:04:05,166\n叫他去付款了結果五十口裡面跳出來一個簡訊裡面跳出來一個北海福祚你看搶張學友的門票跳出的是北海福祚副市長你知道北海福祚是什麼嗎?很難對不對搶張學友的門票好不容易搶到了五十四萬分之一搶到了他通知收賬他去繳費結果\n\n11\n00:04:07,162 --> 00:04:24,990\n回到簡訊裡面五十口的跳出來說什麼這是北海福壽的詐騙下面一個紅字是寫什麼詐騙過幾天他還講什麼這是一個廣告那人家就在檢舉啦我到底要不要去要不要去要不要去付款去取票\n\n12\n00:04:28,534 --> 00:04:55,427\n這個我們可以跟這個個案我們可以跟福斯科了解一下這不是只有一個個案這很多人碰到的事情這個也是回到你們剛剛連部長引諾大家的企業你們不是只有幫政府嘛各部門嘛你們幫各部門有意義對不對我們來做一個333好不好幫企業來做一個好不好來我們看一下現在機制裡面有很多缺點不知道你要民間主動去回報你採取這黑名單的機制嘛對不對\n\n13\n00:04:56,684 --> 00:05:11,676\n可是企業常常就被污染,像剛才那樣的東西你就造成企業本身民間的這個業者本身負擔就很重第二可能更嚴重的,對民眾造成困擾啊來我們用一個方式好不好,來面對詐騙請數位部做這件事情來\n\n14\n00:05:13,479 --> 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