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00:00:44,486\n不讓大家午安辛苦喔那進入我今天的主題呢我要念一個我臉書的文章是寫在2020年5月12號那時候我說臺灣發生了李宗瑞事件韓國有N號房事件性私密影像未經同意拍攝以及不當傳播的犯罪只有越演越烈各國皆然沒錯\n\n3\n00:00:45,706 --> 00:01:02,874\n四年後的現在,它確實越演越烈,在臺灣又發生了黃子佼創意私房的事件。那我2020年又寫著:「臺版N號房早就發生在你我身邊,所以新興的網路犯罪形態不只變本加厲,更已經全球化、產業化。」\n\n4\n00:01:04,895 --> 00:01:29,960\n沒想到我又一語成稱了確實看到這個在暗網之間創意私房就是這樣他已經產業化他已經全球化了所以這一次我們又有一次修法的機會在2022年我們完成了性暴力防制司法的修正之後我們又有一次機會來好好討論法案這一次我們真的不能就這樣算了這一次我們真的不能夠繼續頭痛一頭腳痛一腳\n\n5\n00:01:33,061 --> 00:01:51,771\n那看看我的條文我基本上同意衛福部終整其他委員的提案的六大修法面向但是我個人會用修正動議來提出我個人的版本也就是購買適同資助犯罪的這件事情我們要比較盈利來加重刑責這是吳思瑤的版本下一頁\n\n6\n00:01:53,511 --> 00:02:18,878\n從黃子椒的事件還好現在北檢在意的過程有機會來重新認定否則這個還起訴是社會沒辦法接受那當然我們看到創意私房有八十位高級會員有醫師有老師有軍警高教育程度的人依舊是會去進行購買下載這樣子的性犯罪的影片\n\n7\n00:02:19,558 --> 00:02:43,436\n這都告訴我們現在的機制嚇阻力是不足的下一頁現在我們有機會來修兒童性剝削防制條例我要講再一次的機會可是我也希望不要再一次的掛一漏完我們對於兒童的受害案件這一次來修但是其實對於成人他還是有很多受害者的影片被外流被偷拍\n\n8\n00:02:44,338 --> 00:03:08,644\n就以黃子嬌啊,他的這個4TB的這個硬碟啊,裡面只有7部,不能講只有7部啦,7部的兒少性剝削已經很嚴重了。可是事實上他還有上百部成人的。換言之還有無數的成人他可能是被偷拍,他性私密影像被外流,有更多的成人也是求助無門。所以我認為今天如果討論了兒少性剝削防制條例的再次修法,\n\n9\n00:03:11,005 --> 00:03:32,243\n其實我們也必須同步來檢視刑法的性隱、性私密的這個專章對於成人的部分也是要跟上,我想大家都同意。好,下一頁。那我個人的意見在哪裡?我們現行的條文對拍攝、製造在三十六條有規範,那盈利者加重二分之一的刑責,\n\n10\n00:03:33,064 --> 00:04:01,249\n三十八條規範的散布傳送交付公然陳列等等營利的一樣加重其刑責。但是我們對於無正當持有的以及我們欠缺對付費下載觀看的加重刑責這當中現在的法規如果不改你等同於免費下載的人跟高級付費的會員他的法是一樣的我認為這是不公平的這個是偏差的下一頁\n\n11\n00:04:01,969 --> 00:04:27,101\n我用這個表格來看來論述我們的左邊現在已經很清楚了盈利而進行拍攝散佈的他的罪是重於私下拍攝無償散佈OK這沒有問題但右邊呢現在的法如果還是依你們現在送出來的版本會讓免費下載的人的負有的刑責被克責的罪跟付費的會員是一致的這樣覺得嗎?不覺得這樣覺得嗎?\n\n12\n00:04:31,796 --> 00:04:38,741\n議員林岱樺等20人擬具:「兒童及少年性剝削防制條例第八條、第三十九條及第五十一條條文修正草案案。」案。\n\n13\n00:04:53,551 --> 00:05:10,783\n我自己的條文是修在第三十九條增列第四項,那如果我們也跟衛福部的同仁討論,如果要在你們的三十六條來調整,我也可以接受。我要求的就是,針對付費的會員本身,他也應當有更重的刑責。\n\n14\n00:05:12,151 --> 00:05:34,746\n這是我的主張,我認為合理正當,否則一法就兩制了。好,下一頁。所以說沒有需求就沒有人,沒有供給啦。我再一次把我的條文分享在這裡,最後最後下一頁。我要遺憾的說,我當初的倡議是我們需要一部性私密影像的防制專法。\n\n15\n00:05:35,666 --> 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