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00:00:37,102\n我們大家看到當年馬祖海嵐斷纜的時候中華電信所承受的壓力就是說部分代收加值手機支付隨時對取得貨件關心卡商品支付兌換券全部都中斷那麼在那個階段前後拖了兩個多月那有關於當地的居民的手機也沒辦法通了\n\n3\n00:00:37,722 --> 00:00:37,762\n下一頁\n\n4\n00:01:05,807 --> 00:01:22,915\n我們可以看到國家安全戰略跟國防民生是合一的目標是提升我們的堅韌能力我們的方法是凝聚我們的決心跟意志手段是鞏固持續防護的能力\n\n5\n00:01:24,161 --> 00:01:52,262\n那基礎設施我們根據依據範圍韌性我們當然行政院有國家關鍵基礎安全設施防護計劃的指導綱要這是一個綱要那範疇剛才您包括了包括能源水資源通訊傳播交通銀行金融緊急醫療救助中央政府地方政府機關還有高科技園區它的韌性就是因為現在我們面對了這個一個是天然災害第二個是\n\n6\n00:01:53,697 --> 00:01:57,020\n我們今天談的比較偏重在網路跟通訊提升通訊網路的堅韌程度\n\n7\n00:02:19,298 --> 00:02:42,143\n那麼它的本質是因為它是容易影響群體行為所以很容易成為敵方攻略的主要的目標因為網路通訊它的前提是非常容易遭受到破壞短時間難以恢復正常的工作那我們希望的目標是確實確保我們的通訊傳播不要斷網\n\n8\n00:02:43,444 --> 00:03:02,610\n那也就是說我們在方法上要有彈性化那手段分通訊設施跟載體的流量我們希望用網格化的網路不是線型的就是要交錯型的矩陣型的那在這裡面國防部跟內政部用的是不同我們國防部是有機動性載車的中繼台\n\n9\n00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:13,445\n那麼內政部通常是Wi-Fi的高塔固定包括警消用的是同樣所以我們在提醒政府要統籌規劃精準投資\n\n10\n00:03:16,474 --> 00:03:37,186\n國防跟內政它的用法不同但是分享的單位都會匯集到國安局跟行政院這個地方的治安所以你要注意到就是說兩種都要有一個是機動性的第二個是固定的通信的中繼載台的轉播站那我們下面就會產生要分級分類\n\n11\n00:03:38,973 --> 00:04:07,882\n那麼級別規劃是通聯最小網路頻寬這個是要跟NCC要密切協調等級越高越不能這個斷訊通聯等級越高的他要專屬的通訊網路而且要有多重的備援設計所以在這個過程中間包括國安局包括行政院國土辦以及NCC要密切的協調因為這個頻寬的分路是非分配是非常的重要\n\n12\n00:04:08,762 --> 00:04:28,819\n至於分類就是政府與國軍通聯軍種隨時通聯我們過去的中心衛星這個受期也快界限了替代方案除了我們自己國內發展的本土的發展的衛星能力低軌衛星但是5年也不過就是8顆數字是不夠的那麼根據\n\n13\n00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:56,719\nNCC是講我們跟國外簽或者是我們的科技委員會他是說國內未來120枚可以購用竹科的專家是說要400顆購用這些都有討論空間但是我們要建立一個完整的運用框架大家在把責任分攤以及它的最小需求量的時候攤出來的時候再來看我的成本能不能負擔下一頁\n\n14\n00:04:57,993 --> 00:05:22,944\n各位這個看到就是我們的海纜你看低軌衛星那麼海纜的這個通信系統它是這個傳輸量是最大的它是83這個TBPS那麼衛星通信、微波通信那衛星通信、微波通信它的量又不一樣所以衛星是最窄的再下一個那我們現在有14條海纜那麼有4個接觸點\n\n15\n00:05:29,875 --> 00:05:44,575\n那麼這個東西照剛才在國土辦講的就是說我們跟中華電信都有備案所以14條海欄的修護應急我們的這個中華電信都跟外國的維修公司簽約但是\n\n16\n00:05:45,632 --> 00:06:00,111\n如果不是一條段或是兩條段產生了一種意外事件當然有替代方案但是替代方案的頻寬跟傳輸速度能不能解決應急時候的需求跟暫時是另外一段時間\n\n17\n00:06:01,232 --> 00:06:19,247\n所以我們希望在這個框架下第一個我們要建立一個就是說在國土辦有個共同圖像把你的關鍵基礎設施不同的領域你都標註出來比方我們的超高壓345千伏的配電所它的位置\n\n18\n00:06:20,408 --> 00:06:42,540\n剛才講我們已經有了跟民間簽約或保全簽約甚至未來的寶二總隊都能夠維護但是它的精準位置分配點我們希望能夠你有一個一套軟體能夠把不同的比方講這個所有這個能源輸送下卸的港口傳輸管線能夠顯示高壓電塔28000座高壓電塔的位置能顯示\n\n19\n00:06:45,401 --> 00:06:45,681\n海上交通線\n\n20\n00:07:08,117 --> 00:07:32,244\n海上交通線是能源進出的必要管道它跟海欄的重要性是相同的所以我們看下面國家通信委員會NCC表示在立法院三讀通過電信管理法修正條文從過去單一點的保護擴大到納入保護現在海點我們海欄14個海欄\n\n21\n00:07:34,144 --> 00:08:02,659\n有14條海岸有4個登陸點這包括基防、纜線、內陸、間接站、鏈路設備跟國際通信交換機這個就是剛剛講的這個CEI要有doubleredundancy那要短時間能夠有替代方案比方講我們跟這個NCC跟OneWeb簽的約是說我們境內有700個點境外16個點這700個點再用微波再跟local的地方大家enduser可以用\n\n22\n00:08:03,379 --> 00:08:21,976\n可是我們要了解NCC簽約跟英國公司簽約條約的段數有沒有在暫時不可抗力因素它的服務範疇受到影響這個我們希望能夠掌握而不是NCC說我簽了約這個分給你國軍分給你政府分給你多少單位\n\n23\n00:08:22,637 --> 00:08:24,559\n陳委員真的對於我們相關的韌性的防護非常的了解\n\n24\n00:08:43,434 --> 00:09:11,536\n那就整個的共同圖像的部分我們也非常認同委員剛剛所提的那我們就以通訊韌性為例目前我們的做法也是由海、陸、空這三個的共同圖像來組合而成那海的部分剛剛有提到在海嵐海嵐除了現行的海嵐之外我們當然還會有持續的一些相關的措施來進行強化那在陸上的部分有相關的民營的通訊業者如何在災難的時候\n\n25\n00:09:12,637 --> 00:09:12,697\n以上,謝謝委員\n\n26\n00:09:37,811 --> 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