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00:00:11,675\n好謝謝主席我們有請陳主委麻煩主委謝謝\n\n2\n00:00:16,491 --> 00:00:39,353\n主委早委員長我們今天要審查的是NCC委員的人事提名還有我們相關組織法的修正草案那當初我們設立NCC組織法的第一條裡面有寫到這個其中的幾項第一項就是要落實憲法保障的言論自由謹守黨政軍退出媒體的這種精神\n\n3\n00:00:40,034 --> 00:00:58,451\n第二條是要促進通訊傳播健全發展維護媒體專業的自主第三是有效辦理通訊傳播管理事項確保通訊傳播市場公平有效的競爭第四是保障消費者及尊重弱勢權益第五是促進多元文化的均衡發展\n\n4\n00:00:59,051 --> 00:01:11,719\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案案件,並提升國家競爭力等等。那我想請教我們陳主委就是您在任期內對於上述的這幾項您認為在您任期內有幾項已經達到了?\n\n5\n00:01:13,668 --> 00:01:38,354\n第一條是我們設立NCC的最主要的基本的目的還有原則我們所有的行為都在落實這個比如說保障言論自由這個部分來講我們落實這些相關的執照、換照、申涉的這些相關的議題那對確保黨政軍推出媒體這個部分來講的話我們在相關的這些換照或是裁罰或者是評鑑的時候都有去確實的去執行\n\n6\n00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:40,575\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案\n\n7\n00:01:55,024 --> 00:02:20,634\n所以對於任期內我們剛剛講的這部分應該在主委的這個作為方面應該都有落實都有的在我們相關的制度都有好那我還是回到我們今天要討論的這個人事提名的部分那就我們現行的組織來看我們委員是編制7人那任期4年任滿得連任由行政院長提名並經過立法院同意後任命\n\n8\n00:02:21,414 --> 00:02:40,274\n那現行的制度設計確保NCC的專業和獨立性我想請教我們主委如果我們這個改成照立法院政黨的比例來推派的話那可能有違大法官解釋的這個意旨之外還可能會對我們NCC造成什麼樣的影響\n\n9\n00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:56,805\n立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第13屆第14會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第15會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第16會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第17會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第18會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第19會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第20會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第21會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第22會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第22會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第23會期\n\n10\n00:03:02,088 --> 00:03:12,375\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組\n\n11\n00:03:30,367 --> 00:03:51,596\n所以內部上來講對整個這個制度對獨立機關本來本質上就有抵觸然後對制度上的推動是有所不利好那我們這一次送審的這個名單是四位嘛對要這個要更替的是四位是那假設這四位如果沒有順利通過的話未來對我們NCC推動的過程裡面會造成什麼樣的影響\n\n12\n00:03:52,328 --> 00:04:18,746\n這個就是因為我們組織法裡面規定說如果新任的還沒有只會順利產生就任的時候由原任的委員繼續留任就是這樣就避免這個所謂的我們的整個政務會中斷的問題我舉一個例子來講的話我們NCC呢每一年大概有好幾萬件的這種行政處分各位可以看可能大家都只是關注到所謂電視的什麼伸手換照啦電信業者合併其實很重要比如說像我們手機\n\n13\n00:04:19,667 --> 00:04:31,554\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案件,以及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播\n\n14\n00:04:37,073 --> 00:04:40,898\n立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第四條條文修正草案案案例\n\n15\n00:04:57,883 --> 00:05:16,232\n我認為我們NCC作為掌管我們國家的通訊傳播事業的獨立機關我們都同意在人事上應該以專業為重也要超越黨派同時尊重NCC委員們所擁有的專業以及代表的多元價值\n\n16\n00:05:17,974 --> 00:05:39,873\n國會也應該基於權力分立的這個原則來尊重憲政體制下的這個職權的行使在符合權責的相符的界限下我們共同來監督還有製衡行政部門的這個施政應該朝向這個目標我相信NCC在推動的這個過程應該會更加順遂吧是當然是好\n\n17\n00:05:40,273 --> 00:05:48,572\n那對於說這個主委您在7月份即將到任那您對後續的NCC有什麼期許?\n\n18\n00:05:49,468 --> 00:06:01,614\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第十\n\n19\n00:06:17,381 --> 00:06:20,663\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案\n\n20\n00:06:39,517 --> 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案\n115024\t140634\t所以對於任期內我們剛剛講的這部分應該在主委的這個作為方面應該都有落實都有的在我們相關的制度都有好那我還是回到我們今天要討論的這個人事提名的部分那就我們現行的組織來看我們委員是編制7人那任期4年任滿得連任由行政院長提名並經過立法院同意後任命\n141414\t160274\t那現行的制度設計確保NCC的專業和獨立性我想請教我們主委如果我們這個改成照立法院政黨的比例來推派的話那可能有違大法官解釋的這個意旨之外還可能會對我們NCC造成什麼樣的影響\n161195\t176805\t立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第13屆第14會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第15會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第16會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第17會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第18會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第19會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第20會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第21會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第22會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第22會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第23會期\n182088\t192375\t通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組\n210367\t231596\t所以內部上來講對整個這個制度對獨立機關本來本質上就有抵觸然後對制度上的推動是有所不利好那我們這一次送審的這個名單是四位嘛對要這個要更替的是四位是那假設這四位如果沒有順利通過的話未來對我們NCC推動的過程裡面會造成什麼樣的影響\n232328\t258746\t這個就是因為我們組織法裡面規定說如果新任的還沒有只會順利產生就任的時候由原任的委員繼續留任就是這樣就避免這個所謂的我們的整個政務會中斷的問題我舉一個例子來講的話我們NCC呢每一年大概有好幾萬件的這種行政處分各位可以看可能大家都只是關注到所謂電視的什麼伸手換照啦電信業者合併其實很重要比如說像我們手機\n259667\t271554\t通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,以及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播\n277073\t280898\t立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第四條條文修正草案案案例\n297883\t316232\t我認為我們NCC作為掌管我們國家的通訊傳播事業的獨立機關我們都同意在人事上應該以專業為重也要超越黨派同時尊重NCC委員們所擁有的專業以及代表的多元價值\n317974\t339873\t國會也應該基於權力分立的這個原則來尊重憲政體制下的這個職權的行使在符合權責的相符的界限下我們共同來監督還有製衡行政部門的這個施政應該朝向這個目標我相信NCC在推動的這個過程應該會更加順遂吧是當然是好\n340273\t348572\t那對於說這個主委您在7月份即將到任那您對後續的NCC有什麼期許?\n349468\t361614\t通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第十\n377381\t380663\t通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案\n399517\t402722\t通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院及第十條條文修正草案．\n","txt":"好謝謝主席我們有請陳主委麻煩主委謝謝\n主委早委員長我們今天要審查的是NCC委員的人事提名還有我們相關組織法的修正草案那當初我們設立NCC組織法的第一條裡面有寫到這個其中的幾項第一項就是要落實憲法保障的言論自由謹守黨政軍退出媒體的這種精神\n第二條是要促進通訊傳播健全發展維護媒體專業的自主第三是有效辦理通訊傳播管理事項確保通訊傳播市場公平有效的競爭第四是保障消費者及尊重弱勢權益第五是促進多元文化的均衡發展\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案案 案件,並提升國家競爭力等等。那我想請教我們陳主委就是您在任期內對於上述的這幾項您認為在您任期內有幾項已經達到了?\n第一條是我們設立NCC的最主要的基本的目的還有原則我們所有的行為都在落實這個比如說保障言論自由這個部分來講我們落實這些相關的執照、換照、申涉的這些相關的議題那對確保黨政軍推出媒體這個部分來講的話我們在相關的這些換照或是裁罰或者是評鑑的時候都有去確實的去執行\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案\n所以對於任期內我們剛剛講的這部分應該在主委的這個作為方面應該都有落實都有的在我們相關的制度都有好那我還是回到我們今天要討論的這個人事提名的部分那就我們現行的組織來看我們委員是編制7人那任期4年任滿得連任由行政院長提名並經過立法院同意後任命\n那現行的制度設計確保NCC的專業和獨立性我想請教我們主委如果我們這個改成照立法院政黨的比例來推派的話那可能有違大法官解釋的這個意旨之外還可能會對我們NCC造成什麼樣的影響\n立法院第11屆第12會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第13屆第14會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第15會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第16會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第17會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第18會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第19會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第20會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第21會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第22會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第22會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第23會期\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並且擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組\n所以內部上來講對整個這個制度對獨立機關本來本質上就有抵觸然後對制度上的推動是有所不利好那我們這一次送審的這個名單是四位嘛對要這個要更替的是四位是那假設這四位如果沒有順利通過的話未來對我們NCC推動的過程裡面會造成什麼樣的影響\n這個就是因為我們組織法裡面規定說如果新任的還沒有只會順利產生就任的時候由原任的委員繼續留任就是這樣就避免這個所謂的我們的整個政務會中斷的問題我舉一個例子來講的話我們NCC呢每一年大概有好幾萬件的這種行政處分各位可以看可能大家都只是關注到所謂電視的什麼伸手換照啦電信業者合併其實很重要比如說像我們手機\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,以及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播委員會組織法及其他通訊傳播\n立法院第11屆第1會期司法及法制、交通委員會組織法第四條條文修正草案案案例\n我認為我們NCC作為掌管我們國家的通訊傳播事業的獨立機關我們都同意在人事上應該以專業為重也要超越黨派同時尊重NCC委員們所擁有的專業以及代表的多元價值\n國會也應該基於權力分立的這個原則來尊重憲政體制下的這個職權的行使在符合權責的相符的界限下我們共同來監督還有製衡行政部門的這個施政應該朝向這個目標我相信NCC在推動的這個過程應該會更加順遂吧是當然是好\n那對於說這個主委您在7月份即將到任那您對後續的NCC有什麼期許?\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案 案件,並擬具:「國家通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第十\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案\n通訊傳播委員會組織法第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院第四條、第八條及第十條條文修正草案．立法院及第十條條文修正草案．\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.451 --> 00:11.675\n好謝謝主席我們有請陳主委麻煩主委謝謝\n\n00:16.491 --> 00:39.353\n主委早委員長我們今天要審查的是NCC委員的人事提名還有我們相關組織法的修正草案那當初我們設立NCC組織法的第一條裡面有寫到這個其中的幾項第一項就是要落實憲法保障的言論自由謹守黨政軍退出媒體的這種精神\n\n00:40.034 --> 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