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00:02:07,595\n可能就是說這些中小企業他們也會擔心我今天如果申請這個加薪抵稅的話那你們這邊會不會是擴大疏省嚴加疏省那可能就在那個稅就是可能他可能又要補稅或要繳更多的稅所以我是不是可以請教我們的次長針對這一部分怎麼樣去鼓勵我們的中小企業來運用\n\n7\n00:02:08,916 --> 00:02:08,956\n黃秀芳\n\n8\n00:02:26,647 --> 00:02:26,867\n所以他就會擔心啊\n\n9\n00:02:42,359 --> 00:02:58,666\n所以他基本現在就是這樣做所以是因為這樣子所以才會造成這個你會覺得說成效不彰嗎?我們會合理來課除非是比如說被檢舉或者是說他申報錯誤或者是說他案件很複雜這種才會去抽查那基本上就是照申報核定\n\n10\n00:03:05,229 --> 00:03:26,008\n所以我們要來如果是說這個中小企業發展條例新的規定通過以後我們會責成我們的國稅局會充分來宣導就是讓他們不要因為說怕變成不是輸損的就變成好像被查稅或什麼之類我們會盡量來宣導\n\n11\n00:03:27,810 --> 00:03:42,820\n我希望能夠既然有提出這樣子一個加薪抵稅的這樣的一個制度那當然就是你們要廣為宣傳那一般中小企業擔心的問題我覺得你們應該也要去解決我們會去多宣導接下來我想請教勞動部次長\n\n12\n00:03:49,105 --> 00:04:05,339\n我們現在目前就是說在113年的這個最低工資月薪是27470那勞動部在去年6月也有公布就是出任人員可能是剛剛這個出任人員的這個薪資平均是34000\n\n13\n00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:07,200\n黃秀芳議員\n\n14\n00:04:26,963 --> 00:04:45,251\n不只是勞動部跟財政部我們應該是要一起把這個我們目前一般民眾覺得說我們台灣這個低薪的這個問題能夠解決這個應該是要跨部會去解決所以我希望說勞動部針對這部分你是不是可以說明一下你們未來要怎麼做\n\n15\n00:04:45,751 --> 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