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00:02:49,647\n這個怎麼會外部的人士可以進到選手的休息區?委員的管制也是一樣。署長我說我今天想要提醒你的是我希望在我們的結案裡面請你去看一下我們相關的SOP有沒有確實的訂定然後有沒有按照計畫來走因為我希望明年的比賽後年的比賽能夠越來越順暢這部分我已經也提醒全大運台中市政府這邊請幫忙謝謝接下來署長請回我請教育部潘文忠部長是我們請部長\n\n9\n00:02:57,239 --> 00:03:19,391\n委員好部長一樣是非常關心的我們校園裡面的性平事件那我非常的痛心高雄發生了有一名校長是有偷拍女童的案件那目前看起來說這個行為是發生在校外但是還在調查當中目前高雄市教育局也很快做了處置即刻解聘也宣布永不錄用\n\n10\n00:03:21,112 --> 00:03:45,204\n我們在校園對性平當然是領容人但是我比較擔憂的是因為我看到我們監察院今年3月有一份報告就南投過去有一名校長劉育成校長在任教的34年間長期利用家長的信任感以及學生之間的權勢關係發生了對未成年學生性侵害及性騷擾的行為那後來發現調查下去發現不只在一所學校也不只在一個縣市\n\n11\n00:03:46,525 --> 00:04:02,013\n曾經在他任教當中的4所學校超過10個受害者。案件發生在南投也發生在新北。所以我們教育部有沒有去提醒高雄市教育局除了這一所學校之外過去的相關的行為都要去調查。\n\n12\n00:04:03,194 --> 00:04:19,033\n委員報告這次就是因為有幾個事件就包含剛才委員現在提的這個藍頭族的事件在這次修憲民法的過程當中就特別去提醒要做到他不是單這個如果任教已久或任教他校必要要\n\n13\n00:04:20,094 --> 00:04:35,781\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第12屆第3會期教育部立法院第4會期教育部立法院第6會期教育部立法院第7會期教育部立法院第8會期教育部立法院第9會期教育部立法院第10會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院\n\n14\n00:04:38,382 --> 00:04:45,085\n一個個案只處理一個調查以及去年憲憑法修法過後還有一件很重要的事假設有過去已經現在已經畢業的學生過去曾經假設倘若有相關的情事一樣可以來進行申訴我希望我們教育部及教育局這個資訊要讓更多的大眾知道\n\n15\n00:04:56,049 --> 00:05:02,492\n學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案。\n\n16\n00:05:23,442 --> 00:05:50,102\n行政的減輕持續該做。」我知道我們有小校某用區域的方式來進行但我看到聯合報有一個調查在2023年81%的偏鄉教師反映行政工作對教學是有造成負擔然後有近五成的教師表示因為這樣的行政負擔會影響到他的留任意願所以對於偏鄉地區的這些小校行政的減輕我們還有沒有什麼樣的做法\n\n17\n00:05:50,762 --> 00:05:51,543\n公有退休校長兼公有工作\n\n18\n00:06:20,502 --> 00:06:46,584\n我們在學校裡面的行政編制有沒有辦法來精簡針對這種偏鄉地區的小校?委員如果我目前的規劃跟國教組這邊的討論因為一校一定要政治同樣的類型其實現在我們有將近三分之一是規模非常小的學校所以在行政減量這件事情上我們說除了透過這個數位的這個模式真的可以做一些比較減量\n\n19\n00:06:47,725 --> 00:07:14,972\n另外一個啦,我覺得應該是用區域去支持各別小型的學校所以未來在7月30號前,也就是下個學年度前我也請署長這邊要來增置這種區域資源中心的人力他是在幫忙,比如說他這個行政區內區域內有10所學校,我是舉例那有一個我們資源的中心那我們就會去立定說哪些事情由資源中心來代辦不要每個學校都辦\n\n20\n00:07:15,792 --> 00:07:39,883\n這個其實對長期來講就我長期的觀察以及這幾年我們推了幾個大型的這種計畫我們目前的制度運行下來我想是有成效的只是成效還不夠快所以我想是可以多管理一下這個區域資源中心我想應該要更普遍像我們國教院自己我們的智庫自己有做出一個報告其實是有建議50任以下的小校我們可以來做行政組織的精檢\n\n21\n00:07:41,664 --> 00:07:48,648\n所以這部分我其實希望我們國教署還是可以繼續去研議有沒有多管齊下的方式去年那個國教法修法裡面其實對我們過去習慣的教訓總等等的這一些其實在這次法修是有比較給彈性但是模式上我是建議還是可以長出教育部可以提出一些規範性給他們做參考就是說你不要什麼都所以一個人就要兼剛才委員所說的我們偏鄉地區的老師你編制都有了很大的熱情這個要兼這個要兼\n\n22\n00:08:10,882 --> 00:08:12,683\n施行迄今之成效及檢討：一、邀請教育部列席\n\n23\n00:08:29,716 --> 00:08:48,971\n好那最後我跟主席接一分鐘我想要關心的是我們的特教班的這個教師因為我們現在去世是普特融合可是在台北市因為我們常收到很多特教生的個案而且我發現有越來越多就是說他是滿額的班所以他必須要去跨越他原先的學區去就讀\n\n24\n00:08:49,691 --> 00:09:08,613\n那我就去看了一下我們的數字這幾年可以說我們特教班是在動漲台北市為例這五年來特教班的數量是一樣的可是我們必須要安置到集中式特教班的學生五年來增加了166人也就是說我們平均每一班特教班集中式的人數\n\n25\n00:09:09,534 --> 00:09:21,982\n小學增加的最多平均每班從6.84人上升到7.31人幼兒園就是一直都很緊繃大部分都是在8人那我們在這個看這個實質的時候啊我在想我們\n\n26\n00:09:23,761 --> 00:09:43,099\n現在是總量控管可是呢經過你們的評估要安置到集中式資源班的學生的數量就是在增加的可是我們班數你們用總控管動長不動變成在每一班裡面人數越來越多以台北市來說我們收到的個案他就必須要跨越\n\n27\n00:09:43,939 --> 00:10:05,271\n學區以外的學校就讀,也就是說每天上課的交通的時間、身心負擔都增加很多。那台北市都如此了,何況是偏鄉地區的學校。但因為我目前沒有看到資料報告,所以希望教育部可以提供給我,就是關於我們對偏鄉地區的集中式資源班的這些學生,他跨區就讀的情形。\n\n28\n00:10:08,092 --> 00:10:13,374\n學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、邀請教育部列席就:「偏遠地區教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、\n\n29\n00:10:25,079 --> 00:10:36,525\n應該也要達到學生的平權,所以我覺得區域區的均衡是很重要的,所以我現在往上去考慮一下,那我先拿到這個報告數字。好,謝謝,剛才委員提了這點,我簡單回答,要急於說明好了,如果經過專業的鑑定,是屬於該進入到這種我們說專班,特教專班,剛才我跟老師講說,這個一定要確立,不是因為用一個限制,這個如果有限制執行這方面,我們應該跟他們溝通,\n\n30\n00:10:51,733 --> 00:10:59,521\n以鑑定為準,那當然普特融合是一個國際的趨勢我現在講的就是已經鑑定後要安置到其中所以那個前提應該是不能說我不管你多少我就是給你這個,這不合理這個我們再請縣市局,剛才委員傳到區域的部分我請署裡頭整理再跟委員說明一下\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4854\t27228\t謝謝主席,我請體育署鄭世忠署長。好,請署長。委員長。署長好,全中運剛落幕,開幕式跟閉幕式你都有出席。是。你覺得今年全中運順利嗎?比起去年好多了。我說應該在順利與不順利之間,今年我們很多選手都破了佳績。是。但是比賽的順利與否,不只看成績。是。\n27788\t44793\t尤其這是學生的運動會安全也很重要今年有看到很多的風波在我們臺北市舉辦所以我特別關心包括有我們的游泳選手因為跳水被禁賽有游泳選手、女性的選手、泳衣集體被偷竊去報案\n45973\t46273\t條例第八條條文修正草案案\n68777\t72680\t這個比賽算順利選手沒有受到影響這個是我們幸運但是我們應該回頭來檢討在比賽的安全性我們能不能夠事先的預防籌備讓它能夠更順暢所以我想請教一下尤其是這個當時火災的時候我比較疑惑的是去滅火的是教練跟同學我們現場沒有安排工作人員嗎\n94638\t110394\t報告委員第一時間因為有教練在旁邊他們就即時反應剛好旁邊有下房的煉火器我們有沒有對看台的觀眾做引導疏散?那個時候因為他的範圍不算很大那當時其他的\n111775\t116038\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次\n132049\t134770\t臺北市的確有計劃書,我們在6月會有檢討會議。臺北停電場剛好有個防暴溝設計,隔開了跑道跟觀眾席,所以這部分對選手當下是沒有影響的。包括這個有音失竊。\n148736\t169647\t這個怎麼會外部的人士可以進到選手的休息區?委員的管制也是一樣。署長我說我今天想要提醒你的是我希望在我們的結案裡面請你去看一下我們相關的SOP有沒有確實的訂定然後有沒有按照計畫來走因為我希望明年的比賽後年的比賽能夠越來越順暢這部分我已經也提醒全大運台中市政府這邊請幫忙謝謝接下來署長請回我請教育部潘文忠部長是我們請部長\n177239\t199391\t委員好部長一樣是非常關心的我們校園裡面的性平事件那我非常的痛心高雄發生了有一名校長是有偷拍女童的案件那目前看起來說這個行為是發生在校外但是還在調查當中目前高雄市教育局也很快做了處置即刻解聘也宣布永不錄用\n201112\t225204\t我們在校園對性平當然是領容人但是我比較擔憂的是因為我看到我們監察院今年3月有一份報告就南投過去有一名校長劉育成校長在任教的34年間長期利用家長的信任感以及學生之間的權勢關係發生了對未成年學生性侵害及性騷擾的行為那後來發現調查下去發現不只在一所學校也不只在一個縣市\n226525\t242013\t曾經在他任教當中的4所學校超過10個受害者。案件發生在南投也發生在新北。所以我們教育部有沒有去提醒高雄市教育局除了這一所學校之外過去的相關的行為都要去調查。\n243194\t259033\t委員報告這次就是因為有幾個事件就包含剛才委員現在提的這個藍頭族的事件在這次修憲民法的過程當中就特別去提醒要做到他不是單這個如果任教已久或任教他校必要要\n260094\t275781\t教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第12屆第3會期教育部立法院第4會期教育部立法院第6會期教育部立法院第7會期教育部立法院第8會期教育部立法院第9會期教育部立法院第10會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院\n278382\t285085\t一個個案只處理一個調查以及去年憲憑法修法過後還有一件很重要的事假設有過去已經現在已經畢業的學生過去曾經假設倘若有相關的情事一樣可以來進行申訴我希望我們教育部及教育局這個資訊要讓更多的大眾知道\n296049\t302492\t學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案。\n323442\t350102\t行政的減輕持續該做。」我知道我們有小校某用區域的方式來進行但我看到聯合報有一個調查在2023年81%的偏鄉教師反映行政工作對教學是有造成負擔然後有近五成的教師表示因為這樣的行政負擔會影響到他的留任意願所以對於偏鄉地區的這些小校行政的減輕我們還有沒有什麼樣的做法\n350762\t351543\t公有退休 校長兼公有工作\n380502\t406584\t我們在學校裡面的行政編制有沒有辦法來精簡針對這種偏鄉地區的小校?委員如果我目前的規劃跟國教組這邊的討論因為一校一定要政治同樣的類型其實現在我們有將近三分之一是規模非常小的學校所以在行政減量這件事情上我們說除了透過這個數位的這個模式真的可以做一些比較減量\n407725\t434972\t另外一個啦,我覺得應該是用區域去支持各別小型的學校所以未來在7月30號前,也就是下個學年度前我也請署長這邊要來增置這種區域資源中心的人力他是在幫忙,比如說他這個行政區內區域內有10所學校,我是舉例那有一個我們資源的中心那我們就會去立定說哪些事情由資源中心來代辦不要每個學校都辦\n435792\t459883\t這個其實對長期來講就我長期的觀察以及這幾年我們推了幾個大型的這種計畫我們目前的制度運行下來我想是有成效的只是成效還不夠快所以我想是可以多管理一下這個區域資源中心我想應該要更普遍像我們國教院自己我們的智庫自己有做出一個報告其實是有建議50任以下的小校我們可以來做行政組織的精檢\n461664\t468648\t所以這部分我其實希望我們國教署還是可以繼續去研議有沒有多管齊下的方式去年那個國教法修法裡面其實對我們過去習慣的教訓總等等的這一些其實在這次法修是有比較給彈性但是模式上我是建議還是可以長出教育部可以提出一些規範性給他們做參考就是說你不要什麼都所以一個人就要兼剛才委員所說的我們偏鄉地區的老師你編制都有了很大的熱情這個要兼 這個要兼\n490882\t492683\t施行迄今之成效及檢討：一、邀請教育部列席\n509716\t528971\t好 那最後我跟主席接一分鐘我想要關心的是我們的特教班的這個教師因為我們現在去世是普特融合可是在台北市因為我們常收到很多特教生的個案而且我發現有越來越多就是說他是滿額的班所以他必須要去跨越他原先的學區去就讀\n529691\t548613\t那我就去看了一下我們的數字這幾年可以說我們特教班是在動漲台北市為例這五年來特教班的數量是一樣的可是我們必須要安置到集中式特教班的學生五年來增加了166人也就是說我們平均每一班特教班集中式的人數\n549534\t561982\t小學增加的最多平均每班從6.84人上升到7.31人幼兒園就是一直都很緊繃大部分都是在8人那我們在這個看這個實質的時候啊我在想我們\n563761\t583099\t現在是總量控管可是呢經過你們的評估要安置到集中式資源班的學生的數量就是在增加的可是我們班數你們用總控管動長不動變成在每一班裡面人數越來越多以台北市來說我們收到的個案他就必須要跨越\n583939\t605271\t學區以外的學校就讀,也就是說每天上課的交通的時間、身心負擔都增加很多。那台北市都如此了,何況是偏鄉地區的學校。但因為我目前沒有看到資料報告,所以希望教育部可以提供給我,就是關於我們對偏鄉地區的集中式資源班的這些學生,他跨區就讀的情形。\n608092\t613374\t學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、邀請教育部列席就:「偏遠地區教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、\n625079\t636525\t應該也要達到學生的平權,所以我覺得區域區的均衡是很重要的,所以我現在往上去考慮一下,那我先拿到這個報告數字。好,謝謝,剛才委員提了這點,我簡單回答,要急於說明好了,如果經過專業的鑑定,是屬於該進入到這種我們說專班,特教專班,剛才我跟老師講說,這個一定要確立,不是因為用一個限制,這個如果有限制執行這方面,我們應該跟他們溝通,\n651733\t659521\t以鑑定為準,那當然普特融合是一個國際的趨勢我現在講的就是已經鑑定後要安置到其中所以那個前提應該是不能說我不管你多少我就是給你這個,這不合理這個我們再請縣市局,剛才委員傳到區域的部分我請署裡頭整理再跟委員說明一下\n","txt":"謝謝主席,我請體育署鄭世忠署長。好,請署長。委員長。署長好,全中運剛落幕,開幕式跟閉幕式你都有出席。是。你覺得今年全中運順利嗎?比起去年好多了。我說應該在順利與不順利之間,今年我們很多選手都破了佳績。是。但是比賽的順利與否,不只看成績。是。\n尤其這是學生的運動會安全也很重要今年有看到很多的風波在我們臺北市舉辦所以我特別關心包括有我們的游泳選手因為跳水被禁賽有游泳選手、女性的選手、泳衣集體被偷竊去報案\n條例第八條條文修正草案案\n這個比賽算順利選手沒有受到影響這個是我們幸運但是我們應該回頭來檢討在比賽的安全性我們能不能夠事先的預防籌備讓它能夠更順暢所以我想請教一下尤其是這個當時火災的時候我比較疑惑的是去滅火的是教練跟同學我們現場沒有安排工作人員嗎\n報告委員第一時間因為有教練在旁邊他們就即時反應剛好旁邊有下房的煉火器我們有沒有對看台的觀眾做引導疏散?那個時候因為他的範圍不算很大那當時其他的\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次\n臺北市的確有計劃書,我們在6月會有檢討會議。臺北停電場剛好有個防暴溝設計,隔開了跑道跟觀眾席,所以這部分對選手當下是沒有影響的。包括這個有音失竊。\n這個怎麼會外部的人士可以進到選手的休息區?委員的管制也是一樣。署長我說我今天想要提醒你的是我希望在我們的結案裡面請你去看一下我們相關的SOP有沒有確實的訂定然後有沒有按照計畫來走因為我希望明年的比賽後年的比賽能夠越來越順暢這部分我已經也提醒全大運台中市政府這邊請幫忙謝謝接下來署長請回我請教育部潘文忠部長是我們請部長\n委員好部長一樣是非常關心的我們校園裡面的性平事件那我非常的痛心高雄發生了有一名校長是有偷拍女童的案件那目前看起來說這個行為是發生在校外但是還在調查當中目前高雄市教育局也很快做了處置即刻解聘也宣布永不錄用\n我們在校園對性平當然是領容人但是我比較擔憂的是因為我看到我們監察院今年3月有一份報告就南投過去有一名校長劉育成校長在任教的34年間長期利用家長的信任感以及學生之間的權勢關係發生了對未成年學生性侵害及性騷擾的行為那後來發現調查下去發現不只在一所學校也不只在一個縣市\n曾經在他任教當中的4所學校超過10個受害者。案件發生在南投也發生在新北。所以我們教育部有沒有去提醒高雄市教育局除了這一所學校之外過去的相關的行為都要去調查。\n委員報告這次就是因為有幾個事件就包含剛才委員現在提的這個藍頭族的事件在這次修憲民法的過程當中就特別去提醒要做到他不是單這個如果任教已久或任教他校必要要\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第12屆第3會期教育部立法院第4會期教育部立法院第6會期教育部立法院第7會期教育部立法院第8會期教育部立法院第9會期教育部立法院第10會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院\n一個個案只處理一個調查以及去年憲憑法修法過後還有一件很重要的事假設有過去已經現在已經畢業的學生過去曾經假設倘若有相關的情事一樣可以來進行申訴我希望我們教育部及教育局這個資訊要讓更多的大眾知道\n學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案。 因此,這條條文修正草案 案。\n行政的減輕持續該做。」我知道我們有小校某用區域的方式來進行但我看到聯合報有一個調查在2023年81%的偏鄉教師反映行政工作對教學是有造成負擔然後有近五成的教師表示因為這樣的行政負擔會影響到他的留任意願所以對於偏鄉地區的這些小校行政的減輕我們還有沒有什麼樣的做法\n公有退休 校長兼公有工作\n我們在學校裡面的行政編制有沒有辦法來精簡針對這種偏鄉地區的小校?委員如果我目前的規劃跟國教組這邊的討論因為一校一定要政治同樣的類型其實現在我們有將近三分之一是規模非常小的學校所以在行政減量這件事情上我們說除了透過這個數位的這個模式真的可以做一些比較減量\n另外一個啦,我覺得應該是用區域去支持各別小型的學校所以未來在7月30號前,也就是下個學年度前我也請署長這邊要來增置這種區域資源中心的人力他是在幫忙,比如說他這個行政區內區域內有10所學校,我是舉例那有一個我們資源的中心那我們就會去立定說哪些事情由資源中心來代辦不要每個學校都辦\n這個其實對長期來講就我長期的觀察以及這幾年我們推了幾個大型的這種計畫我們目前的制度運行下來我想是有成效的只是成效還不夠快所以我想是可以多管理一下這個區域資源中心我想應該要更普遍像我們國教院自己我們的智庫自己有做出一個報告其實是有建議50任以下的小校我們可以來做行政組織的精檢\n所以這部分我其實希望我們國教署還是可以繼續去研議有沒有多管齊下的方式去年那個國教法修法裡面其實對我們過去習慣的教訓總等等的這一些其實在這次法修是有比較給彈性但是模式上我是建議還是可以長出教育部可以提出一些規範性給他們做參考就是說你不要什麼都所以一個人就要兼剛才委員所說的我們偏鄉地區的老師你編制都有了很大的熱情這個要兼 這個要兼\n施行迄今之成效及檢討：一、邀請教育部列席\n好 那最後我跟主席接一分鐘我想要關心的是我們的特教班的這個教師因為我們現在去世是普特融合可是在台北市因為我們常收到很多特教生的個案而且我發現有越來越多就是說他是滿額的班所以他必須要去跨越他原先的學區去就讀\n那我就去看了一下我們的數字這幾年可以說我們特教班是在動漲台北市為例這五年來特教班的數量是一樣的可是我們必須要安置到集中式特教班的學生五年來增加了166人也就是說我們平均每一班特教班集中式的人數\n小學增加的最多平均每班從6.84人上升到7.31人幼兒園就是一直都很緊繃大部分都是在8人那我們在這個看這個實質的時候啊我在想我們\n現在是總量控管可是呢經過你們的評估要安置到集中式資源班的學生的數量就是在增加的可是我們班數你們用總控管動長不動變成在每一班裡面人數越來越多以台北市來說我們收到的個案他就必須要跨越\n學區以外的學校就讀,也就是說每天上課的交通的時間、身心負擔都增加很多。那台北市都如此了,何況是偏鄉地區的學校。但因為我目前沒有看到資料報告,所以希望教育部可以提供給我,就是關於我們對偏鄉地區的集中式資源班的這些學生,他跨區就讀的情形。\n學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、邀請教育部列席就:「偏遠地區教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、\n應該也要達到學生的平權,所以我覺得區域區的均衡是很重要的,所以我現在往上去考慮一下,那我先拿到這個報告數字。好,謝謝,剛才委員提了這點,我簡單回答,要急於說明好了,如果經過專業的鑑定,是屬於該進入到這種我們說專班,特教專班,剛才我跟老師講說,這個一定要確立,不是因為用一個限制,這個如果有限制執行這方面,我們應該跟他們溝通,\n以鑑定為準,那當然普特融合是一個國際的趨勢我現在講的就是已經鑑定後要安置到其中所以那個前提應該是不能說我不管你多少我就是給你這個,這不合理這個我們再請縣市局,剛才委員傳到區域的部分我請署裡頭整理再跟委員說明一下\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.854 --> 00:27.228\n謝謝主席,我請體育署鄭世忠署長。好,請署長。委員長。署長好,全中運剛落幕,開幕式跟閉幕式你都有出席。是。你覺得今年全中運順利嗎?比起去年好多了。我說應該在順利與不順利之間,今年我們很多選手都破了佳績。是。但是比賽的順利與否,不只看成績。是。\n\n00:27.788 --> 00:44.793\n尤其這是學生的運動會安全也很重要今年有看到很多的風波在我們臺北市舉辦所以我特別關心包括有我們的游泳選手因為跳水被禁賽有游泳選手、女性的選手、泳衣集體被偷竊去報案\n\n00:45.973 --> 00:46.273\n條例第八條條文修正草案案\n\n01:08.777 --> 01:12.680\n這個比賽算順利選手沒有受到影響這個是我們幸運但是我們應該回頭來檢討在比賽的安全性我們能不能夠事先的預防籌備讓它能夠更順暢所以我想請教一下尤其是這個當時火災的時候我比較疑惑的是去滅火的是教練跟同學我們現場沒有安排工作人員嗎\n\n01:34.638 --> 01:50.394\n報告委員第一時間因為有教練在旁邊他們就即時反應剛好旁邊有下房的煉火器我們有沒有對看台的觀眾做引導疏散?那個時候因為他的範圍不算很大那當時其他的\n\n01:51.775 --> 01:56.038\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次\n\n02:12.049 --> 02:14.770\n臺北市的確有計劃書,我們在6月會有檢討會議。臺北停電場剛好有個防暴溝設計,隔開了跑道跟觀眾席,所以這部分對選手當下是沒有影響的。包括這個有音失竊。\n\n02:28.736 --> 02:49.647\n這個怎麼會外部的人士可以進到選手的休息區?委員的管制也是一樣。署長我說我今天想要提醒你的是我希望在我們的結案裡面請你去看一下我們相關的SOP有沒有確實的訂定然後有沒有按照計畫來走因為我希望明年的比賽後年的比賽能夠越來越順暢這部分我已經也提醒全大運台中市政府這邊請幫忙謝謝接下來署長請回我請教育部潘文忠部長是我們請部長\n\n02:57.239 --> 03:19.391\n委員好部長一樣是非常關心的我們校園裡面的性平事件那我非常的痛心高雄發生了有一名校長是有偷拍女童的案件那目前看起來說這個行為是發生在校外但是還在調查當中目前高雄市教育局也很快做了處置即刻解聘也宣布永不錄用\n\n03:21.112 --> 03:45.204\n我們在校園對性平當然是領容人但是我比較擔憂的是因為我看到我們監察院今年3月有一份報告就南投過去有一名校長劉育成校長在任教的34年間長期利用家長的信任感以及學生之間的權勢關係發生了對未成年學生性侵害及性騷擾的行為那後來發現調查下去發現不只在一所學校也不只在一個縣市\n\n03:46.525 --> 04:02.013\n曾經在他任教當中的4所學校超過10個受害者。案件發生在南投也發生在新北。所以我們教育部有沒有去提醒高雄市教育局除了這一所學校之外過去的相關的行為都要去調查。\n\n04:03.194 --> 04:19.033\n委員報告這次就是因為有幾個事件就包含剛才委員現在提的這個藍頭族的事件在這次修憲民法的過程當中就特別去提醒要做到他不是單這個如果任教已久或任教他校必要要\n\n04:20.094 --> 04:35.781\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第12屆第3會期教育部立法院第4會期教育部立法院第6會期教育部立法院第7會期教育部立法院第8會期教育部立法院第9會期教育部立法院第10會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院\n\n04:38.382 --> 04:45.085\n一個個案只處理一個調查以及去年憲憑法修法過後還有一件很重要的事假設有過去已經現在已經畢業的學生過去曾經假設倘若有相關的情事一樣可以來進行申訴我希望我們教育部及教育局這個資訊要讓更多的大眾知道\n\n04:56.049 --> 05:02.492\n學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案是屬於偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案。因此,這條條文修正草案案。\n\n05:23.442 --> 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08:48.971\n好那最後我跟主席接一分鐘我想要關心的是我們的特教班的這個教師因為我們現在去世是普特融合可是在台北市因為我們常收到很多特教生的個案而且我發現有越來越多就是說他是滿額的班所以他必須要去跨越他原先的學區去就讀\n\n08:49.691 --> 09:08.613\n那我就去看了一下我們的數字這幾年可以說我們特教班是在動漲台北市為例這五年來特教班的數量是一樣的可是我們必須要安置到集中式特教班的學生五年來增加了166人也就是說我們平均每一班特教班集中式的人數\n\n09:09.534 --> 09:21.982\n小學增加的最多平均每班從6.84人上升到7.31人幼兒園就是一直都很緊繃大部分都是在8人那我們在這個看這個實質的時候啊我在想我們\n\n09:23.761 --> 09:43.099\n現在是總量控管可是呢經過你們的評估要安置到集中式資源班的學生的數量就是在增加的可是我們班數你們用總控管動長不動變成在每一班裡面人數越來越多以台北市來說我們收到的個案他就必須要跨越\n\n09:43.939 --> 10:05.271\n學區以外的學校就讀,也就是說每天上課的交通的時間、身心負擔都增加很多。那台北市都如此了,何況是偏鄉地區的學校。但因為我目前沒有看到資料報告,所以希望教育部可以提供給我,就是關於我們對偏鄉地區的集中式資源班的這些學生,他跨區就讀的情形。\n\n10:08.092 --> 10:13.374\n學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、邀請教育部列席就:「偏遠地區教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案：一、\n\n10:25.079 --> 10:36.525\n應該也要達到學生的平權,所以我覺得區域區的均衡是很重要的,所以我現在往上去考慮一下,那我先拿到這個報告數字。好,謝謝,剛才委員提了這點,我簡單回答,要急於說明好了,如果經過專業的鑑定,是屬於該進入到這種我們說專班,特教專班,剛才我跟老師講說,這個一定要確立,不是因為用一個限制,這個如果有限制執行這方面,我們應該跟他們溝通,\n\n10:51.733 --> 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