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00:02:54,476\n好那當然美國是我們中華民國很重要的一個國際的夥伴那他也在多次的發聲力挺我們參加WHA當然我們也是樂觀其成那從2019年我們看到從2019年我們很多的友邦國家一直到2023年每年都很多的友邦國家\n\n7\n00:03:22,449 --> 00:03:41,543\n這部分的話通常都是我們又藉由友邦來做提案。大概是這樣。那在大會裡面有時候美國也會跟其他裡面上線國家在這邊在大會裡面有一些發言來支持我們。但是提案的部分都是透過友邦。\n\n8\n00:03:42,544 --> 00:03:55,797\n對那可不可以請部長為我們說明那難道美國他跟著這些友邦國家如果他來提案的話我覺得這力量會更強大還是有什麼因素他沒有辦法跟著友邦國家提案支持我們?\n\n9\n00:03:57,002 --> 00:04:20,934\n這當然是有必須要去做整體外交的一些考量那美國也不會說這跟台灣的關係只有在支持WHA的這一個部分那還有許多的合作的關係在進行當中那整體的考量的話那也許就是說他們美國的政府方面的話的一個策略\n\n10\n00:04:22,233 --> 00:04:31,695\n那如果美國力挺我們用中華台北去參加WHA的話,那你覺得我們用中華台北的名義參加這是去還是不去?\n\n11\n00:04:32,847 --> 00:04:36,228\n所以如果以中華台北去,部長也覺得是可以的沒有矮化的問題吧?\n\n12\n00:04:55,713 --> 00:05:09,586\n應該不會,因為這有潛力可學對,因為據我們了解之前馬政府執政的時代就用以中華台北民意來參加所以我們在這邊也希望我們衛福部\n\n13\n00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:58,307\n市長我請問一下因為這跟我們那個部桃我們新屋分院擴建有關係因為我們次長好像從2020年沒有我們署長是2020年的時候是擔任次長那我記得當初好像對這個部桃新屋分院擴建這個計畫次長有瞭解嗎?\n\n14\n00:06:02,693 --> 00:06:30,493\n時間有點久,再請委員提醒一下因為據我們了解你在109年的時候就有立委詢問到關於部桃新屋分業擴建的問題那你也回答說則無旁貸那所以我一直想了解說我們署長那時候擔任是次長從2020年你一直擔任到2023年那針對這部桃新屋分業擴建這到底有沒有計畫到底有沒有進行到底有沒有進度\n\n15\n00:06:31,704 --> 00:06:34,587\n這個是有通過?這個是計畫是有通過\n\n16\n00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:49,585\nbicynKwan-預算是從部桃本身的基金預算去支援的。所以這個經費預算已經有編列出來嗎?\n\n17\n00:06:49,585 --> 00:07:07,915\nbicynKwan-我的印象中是有。對,因為這個我們希望來爭取一下,因為我一直在講我們桃園這個醫療資源真的非常的匱乏。桃園是現在兩百三十幾萬人口,唯一的醫學中心就是在我們\n\n18\n00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:58,052\n對,因為沿海的部分真的看起來真的沒有連這個地區型的醫院都沒有你急診病房都看不到所以我們對這部桃新屋分院這個擴建大家都非常的重視而且我一直在重申我們蔡總統在2019年的時候就告訴我們民眾說衛福部已經通過這個案子然後對2023年我們的那時候的副總統也是我們的準總統賴清德也一直說\n\n19\n00:07:58,892 --> 00:08:18,567\nbicyn將要擴建這個部桃新屋分院第二醫療大樓所以我一直不了解說從2023年那時候我們的時署長當時的次長對這個案子都說已經責無旁貸要進行到現在2024年我可不可以請部長幫我們說明一下這到底進行到哪裡了\n\n20\n00:08:21,718 --> 00:08:38,966\n這個是進度上面可能有一點落後,因為其實預算都已經有了,現在就是要做這個計畫書的一個審查。詳細的情形,因為今天依依福惠沒有派人過來,所以\n\n21\n00:08:42,132 --> 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