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--> 00:01:22,471\n所以看到這樣子的成績那我們當然也給予高度的一個肯定那當然就是說對於過去這幾年來我們國內我們也知道就是說受到整個這個COVID19的這個疫情的一個影響包括俄烏戰爭整個國際這個戰爭的影響所以事實上這個缺工缺料\n\n5\n00:01:28,294 --> 00:01:28,334\n﹚陳素月\n\n6\n00:01:48,396 --> 00:01:48,556\n陳素月委員會主席\n\n7\n00:02:18,517 --> 00:02:37,708\n總件數是1267件所以呈流費標的比例是高達73.24%所以這樣子的一個比例那相較我們做的這個執行這個情形創三高這樣子的一個狀況所以讓我覺得好像有一些落差是不是可以請主委說明一下\n\n8\n00:02:38,473 --> 00:02:54,704\n好謝謝委員的指教那麼這幾年確實我們遭遇到疫情還有原物料上漲的關係但我們在公共工程的執行方面那麼逐年有提升達成率的這個狀況\n\n9\n00:02:55,868 --> 00:03:10,022\n那這個當然有賴於我們大會委員大家的支持還有各機關一起的努力才有這樣的一個成果那另外我們從源頭那麼管控像比方說殺死料來講\n\n10\n00:03:11,303 --> 00:03:29,653\n一般婚禮圖最重要就是砂石料我們每一個月都在追蹤砂石提供的數量跟來源要穩定這樣的話到一般婚禮圖這邊才能夠正常來出料另外在價格方面也要求經濟部這邊採取固定價格來讓售給業者\n\n11\n00:03:34,716 --> 00:03:35,056\n﹚陳素月﹚陳素月\n\n12\n00:03:55,572 --> 00:04:18,468\n其實很多東西是機關沒有去做好應該去考慮到的比如說它的設計的不周圓它的這個甚至有一些經費來源這個不穩定的狀況之下那麼不周圓的情況之下廠商觀望或不敢進場這一些我們都有在要求機關來檢討改進\n\n13\n00:04:20,481 --> 00:04:49,750\n是,那我這邊再請教一下就是說有關我們工程會統計的這個執行情形呢是指發包之後開始的一個管控還是說包括在辦理招標或這個決標的時候就開始做一個管控我們的管控是從發包、決標開始開始啦所以流費標這個之前不算就對了,不算執行率不是,局費標也會掌握在我們的手上那麼也會加以去做一個處理\n\n14\n00:04:50,666 --> 00:05:05,462\n是,因為這個工程如果每流廢標一次就是會影響到這個工程的一個進度,完成的一個時間。所以事實上對地方的鄉親或者是主辦的這個業務的機關其實他們也都是非常的在意,因為辦理發包的機關他們也希望能夠順利的發包出去。\n\n15\n00:05:09,887 --> 00:05:10,027\n陳素月議員\n\n16\n00:05:36,812 --> 00:05:37,032\n陳素月議員\n\n17\n00:06:04,112 --> 00:06:31,389\n這個選區有一個公所他有一個工程他在可能兩年前就已經獲得中央核定的經費可是他在經過這兩年來才完成了這個細部設計可能在今年的五、六月才要上網發包可是這個辦理發包的單位他已經在擔心兩年的時間已經就是物價上漲已經有一段差距了可是在這個部分他很擔心說就是沒有辦法順利的發包出去\n\n18\n00:06:31,969 --> 00:06:49,239\n所以在這個部分我們工程會是不是也可以給予協助這樣子?可以這個我們會馬上來了解他雖然是在兩年前開始但是他應該以現在的預算價格來編列如果經費有所不足應該馬上做調整\n\n19\n00:06:49,833 --> 00:07:06,147\n是,可以做這樣子的一個處理是,那就是說在工程的一個就是希望能夠推展順利當然就是也需要我們工程會這邊給予就是一些協助那這樣子才能夠讓我們的地方的這個工程能夠順利的一個推展\n\n20\n00:07:07,107 --> 00:07:32,848\n好,剛剛這個案子委員在給我們,我們馬上來瞭解。好,謝謝。那因為時間的關係,在最後我也要肯定一下我們的主委,就是在任內,您的專業為我們的這個公共工程真的是貢獻良多。那尤其我想有一個部分很多人都不知道的,就是有關濁水溪的這個沙塵暴的一個防治。我覺得這個是以前的\n\n21\n00:07:33,548 --> 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