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00:01:42,258\n有沒有掌握說那到底現在我們這些預算我們要持續的投入甚至今天要解凍的一個預算我們要再怎麼樣投入能夠針對韓國日本能夠把吸引這些優質的觀光客能夠回來本席的新北市不管是我們淡水不管是我們相關的地方好多韓國日本的觀光客都很喜歡啊但現在大家商圈都講是說就是還沒有回復到以前疫情前的榮景的一半來簡單說明一下\n\n5\n00:01:43,899 --> 00:01:46,661\n市長你講的這都是例行,我現在問你比較具體的做法,我們疫後的預算\n\n6\n00:02:04,992 --> 00:02:32,830\n今天要解凍,今天要討論,那預算花了,那我們到底要怎麼樣能夠具體針對這部分然後來吸引這些觀光客過來呢?其實在這一個預算裡頭其實有一個很重要的是自由行的部分來加碼五千元的這一部分那這一部分從去年的這個實施的經驗我們看來對於日本跟韓國的觀光客很具吸引力所以我們會持續在這邊來繼續至少我覺得這樣子真的講蠻籠統的啦\n\n7\n00:02:34,651 --> 00:02:47,706\n會後你再讓本席知道一下說你們比較具體的做法而且真的是希望是能夠增加這一些自由型然後優質的遊客能夠來到我們台灣這是為我們台灣的整個觀光市長那另外一部分會請教一下交通的輕軌道建設\n\n8\n00:02:49,568 --> 00:03:06,363\n本期的選舉裡面現在有幾條輕軌都是已經送了可行性評估包括說巴黎輕軌因為本來希望是淡江大橋2025年能夠完工的時候巴黎輕軌一定的實施但目前沒有辦法可是可行性評估也已經送到了交通部太阪輕軌\n\n9\n00:03:08,208 --> 00:03:29,041\n行政院陳建源院長已經核定了第一期叫做五泰輕軌,但是那是可行性評估,可是我們更希望是能夠後發先至,泰山到板橋的泰板輕軌能夠連接萬大線,能夠連接板南線,能夠連接台鐵、高鐵,其實對於整個地方的民眾更加的需要。請教這兩個現在進度勒?據我所知都已經送進去應該快要半年囉。\n\n10\n00:03:30,061 --> 00:03:48,369\n對,我跟委員報告一下,先講巴黎輕軌好了。巴黎輕軌的部分,當然新北市有做一些相關的研究,我們也把相關的計畫報到行政院去了。那行政院大家有何負?就是請新北市政府再做一些檢討以後再報。\n\n11\n00:03:49,710 --> 00:04:15,458\n那這一部分呢,現在我們的瞭解...已經報,一報再報?我不能每一次報都是你要報,一次問題講清楚有那麼難嗎?這一個巴黎輕軌也已經是可行性評估,就我瞭解,送到我們鐵道局,鐵道局也已經通過之後才從交通部送往行政院,所以照理講專業的部分,可行性載運量以及後續的工程難度,交通部已經都做專業的審查啦?\n\n12\n00:04:16,878 --> 00:04:44,891\n我跟委員報告其實這個巴黎輕軌其實他還要更重要是到了淡水的這一部分所以有一個淡海輕軌的這個串聯的營運的方式路線這一部分我們希望請新北市政府再去釐清一下所以這一部分也就是為什麼行政院在核複的公文裡頭特別提到這一段然後因為有這樣的一個因素所以相關的運量的預測也希望他再做精準的一個分析所以相關運量跟串聯\n\n13\n00:04:46,292 --> 00:05:02,768\n請榮許,因為這兩個不是我們在地人,不過請榮許本席糾正一下,是淡海輕軌二期要連接到巴黎過來,是延伸到巴黎,並不是巴黎這邊做過來,這是不一樣的概念,不過不管怎麼樣都是連接兩岸,\n\n14\n00:05:03,869 --> 00:05:31,519\n本席是不是能夠再請因為次長這一個部分特別強調是新北市政府其實這兩個計畫都已經送入交通部並且本席了解是往行政院送是行政院現在在打回票那中間到底是什麼問題其實也應該要一次釐清讓新北市當然應該要回應要回應但是一次釐清不要來來回回兩三次今天講ABC下一次再講DCE那永遠沒有辦法聚焦想做就我們就應該共同推動\n\n15\n00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:32,919\n法定人數不足\n\n16\n00:05:48,570 --> 00:06:07,824\n來,次長。04、03地震,那我們看到當然是花蓮,鎮央在花蓮,但實際上新北、台北等幾個都會區也都有受損。而且有些人,我這個不是說發生在哪裡都不好,但有些人真的講是說還好這一次不是發生在人口比較密集的地方,鎮央啦,不然可能那個後果更嚴重。\n\n17\n00:06:08,804 --> 00:06:21,115\n我們現在要做的就是防範未來。本席到目前做了解是說新北市在這次04、03完之後才增加了12處的建物是紅單跟黃單,分別是5個紅單跟7個黃單,才那麼少嗎?\n\n18\n00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:51,162\n他們會陸續報,其實像新竹縣也是希望說我們給他到5月中陸陸續去報進來,我們都接受。對,那但是現在本席更要問的問題啊,就是有很多人他的一些建築可能第一相對老舊,其實已經30、40年、40、50年的房子。第二他也沒有管委會,就是以前的老公寓。那你如果說要做建物的檢定或說這個建物到底是安不安全,有規列,但他可能他也不一定。\n\n19\n00:06:52,023 --> 00:06:52,484\n內政評估我們都會補助啊,我們都會補助\n\n20\n00:07:08,943 --> 00:07:36,949\n但現在補助的比例呢?其實我們是初評是幾乎百分百補助。你現在匡列了多少預算來做這個補助?那個好幾年了。好幾年了,不是只有現在。好幾年,但現在重點在於是這次04、03之後,我相信一定有這個需求。我們鼓勵大家趕快來。如果說你告訴大家的話,說不定大家全都來,那那個時候你的預算原額夠不夠?其實因為是基金預算,所以說不夠我們大概就是抄併決來處理就可以。你匡列多少預算?\n\n21\n00:07:41,350 --> 00:08:06,076\n這個其實就是重點本席想強調的是說為什麼很多外界在質疑講是說這個有什麼零四零三地震的這個特別條例本席有提到一個觀念這一次真的是天佑台灣天佑中華民國一直都是天佑台灣所以說就是說在這個鎮央如果沒有發生那個人口密集的地方可是我們真的要防範未來當然那新北市已經我相信台南我相信高雄\n\n22\n00:08:06,616 --> 00:08:15,538\n好多地方的縣市也都有超過40年、50年以上的房子。之前也有一個數據,全台灣超過30年以上的房子佔一半。\n\n23\n00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:42,415\n所以如果說我們能夠趁現在這個時候還沒有在下一次天災我們不知道什麼時候下一次天災再來但是我們應該要去做這樣的一個建物總體檢那建物總體檢的費用到底夠不夠以及我們能不能大規模做做完之後後續能夠怎麼樣來重建跟補助我覺得這才是關鍵所以我們一起努力我們鼓勵全國有需要的民眾都趕快來申請謝謝好謝謝侯孟楷委員的質詢接下來我們請吳佩儀委員質詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n269\t26639\t陳次長,有請劃次。我想今天各委員為地方發聲天經地義,當然我們把錢花在刀口上。那我先請教一下在今天特別有講到就是疫後的觀光的部分。疫後觀光我覺得交通部這也是重中之重,這也是我們編列預算很希望能夠達到的。\n28502\t56604\t去年我們達成600萬的觀光客但全世界其實已經高達87%是恢復到以前的一個情況那本席特別有關注到在這一次來講疫後有兩個國家的觀光客其實消退的非常大市長知道哪兩個國家嗎?亞洲啦日本跟韓國日本的觀光客消減了6成韓國的觀光客消減了4成\n58260\t76038\t當然中國大陸那是因為這個政策因素我想我們先今天就就教國際觀光客的部分我覺得日本跟韓國觀光客過去我們來往的這個頻率其實也互動也蠻頻繁的但是日本削減了6成韓國削減了4成我覺得這是一個很大的一個警訊\n77139\t102258\t有沒有掌握說那到底現在我們這些預算我們要持續的投入甚至今天要解凍的一個預算我們要再怎麼樣投入能夠針對韓國日本能夠把吸引這些優質的觀光客能夠回來本席的新北市不管是我們淡水不管是我們相關的地方好多韓國日本的觀光客都很喜歡啊但現在大家商圈都講是說就是還沒有回復到以前疫情前的榮景的一半來簡單說明一下\n103899\t106661\t市長你講的這都是例行,我現在問你比較具體的做法,我們疫後的預算\n124992\t152830\t今天要解凍,今天要討論,那預算花了,那我們到底要怎麼樣能夠具體針對這部分然後來吸引這些觀光客過來呢?其實在這一個預算裡頭其實有一個很重要的是自由行的部分來加碼五千元的這一部分那這一部分從去年的這個實施的經驗我們看來對於日本跟韓國的觀光客很具吸引力所以我們會持續在這邊來繼續至少我覺得這樣子真的講蠻籠統的啦\n154651\t167706\t會後你再讓本席知道一下說你們比較具體的做法而且真的是希望是能夠增加這一些自由型然後優質的遊客能夠來到我們台灣這是為我們台灣的整個觀光市長那另外一部分會請教一下交通的輕軌道建設\n169568\t186363\t本期的選舉裡面現在有幾條輕軌都是已經送了可行性評估包括說巴黎輕軌因為本來希望是淡江大橋2025年能夠完工的時候巴黎輕軌一定的實施但目前沒有辦法可是可行性評估也已經送到了交通部太阪輕軌\n188208\t209041\t行政院陳建源院長已經核定了第一期叫做五泰輕軌,但是那是可行性評估,可是我們更希望是能夠後發先至,泰山到板橋的泰板輕軌能夠連接萬大線,能夠連接板南線,能夠連接台鐵、高鐵,其實對於整個地方的民眾更加的需要。請教這兩個現在進度勒?據我所知都已經送進去應該快要半年囉。\n210061\t228369\t對,我跟委員報告一下,先講巴黎輕軌好了。巴黎輕軌的部分,當然新北市有做一些相關的研究,我們也把相關的計畫報到行政院去了。那行政院大家有何負?就是請新北市政府再做一些檢討以後再報。\n229710\t255458\t那這一部分呢,現在我們的瞭解...已經報,一報再報?我不能每一次報都是你要報,一次問題講清楚有那麼難嗎?這一個巴黎輕軌也已經是可行性評估,就我瞭解,送到我們鐵道局,鐵道局也已經通過之後才從交通部送往行政院,所以照理講專業的部分,可行性載運量以及後續的工程難度,交通部已經都做專業的審查啦?\n256878\t284891\t我跟委員報告其實這個巴黎輕軌其實他還要更重要是到了淡水的這一部分所以有一個淡海輕軌的這個串聯的營運的方式路線這一部分我們希望請新北市政府再去釐清一下所以這一部分也就是為什麼行政院在核複的公文裡頭特別提到這一段然後因為有這樣的一個因素所以相關的運量的預測也希望他再做精準的一個分析所以相關運量跟串聯\n286292\t302768\t請榮許,因為這兩個不是我們在地人,不過請榮許本席糾正一下,是淡海輕軌二期要連接到巴黎過來,是延伸到巴黎,並不是巴黎這邊做過來,這是不一樣的概念,不過不管怎麼樣都是連接兩岸,\n303869\t331519\t本席是不是能夠再請因為次長這一個部分特別強調是新北市政府其實這兩個計畫都已經送入交通部並且本席了解是往行政院送是行政院現在在打回票那中間到底是什麼問題其實也應該要一次釐清讓新北市當然應該要回應要回應但是一次釐清不要來來回回兩三次今天講ABC下一次再講DCE那永遠沒有辦法聚焦想做就我們就應該共同推動\n332399\t332919\t法定人數不足\n348570\t367824\t來,次長。04、03地震,那我們看到當然是花蓮,鎮央在花蓮,但實際上新北、台北等幾個都會區也都有受損。而且有些人,我這個不是說發生在哪裡都不好,但有些人真的講是說還好這一次不是發生在人口比較密集的地方,鎮央啦,不然可能那個後果更嚴重。\n368804\t381115\t我們現在要做的就是防範未來。本席到目前做了解是說新北市在這次04、03完之後才增加了12處的建物是紅單跟黃單,分別是5個紅單跟7個黃單,才那麼少嗎?\n386580\t411162\t他們會陸續報,其實像新竹縣也是希望說我們給他到5月中陸陸續去報進來,我們都接受。對,那但是現在本席更要問的問題啊,就是有很多人他的一些建築可能第一相對老舊,其實已經30、40年、40、50年的房子。第二他也沒有管委會,就是以前的老公寓。那你如果說要做建物的檢定或說這個建物到底是安不安全,有規列,但他可能他也不一定。\n412023\t412484\t內政評估我們都會補助啊,我們都會補助\n428943\t456949\t但現在補助的比例呢?其實我們是初評是幾乎百分百補助。你現在匡列了多少預算來做這個補助?那個好幾年了。好幾年了,不是只有現在。好幾年,但現在重點在於是這次04、03之後,我相信一定有這個需求。我們鼓勵大家趕快來。如果說你告訴大家的話,說不定大家全都來,那那個時候你的預算原額夠不夠?其實因為是基金預算,所以說不夠我們大概就是抄併決來處理就可以。你匡列多少預算?\n461350\t486076\t這個其實就是重點本席想強調的是說為什麼很多外界在質疑講是說這個有什麼零四零三地震的這個特別條例本席有提到一個觀念這一次真的是天佑台灣天佑中華民國一直都是天佑台灣所以說就是說在這個鎮央如果沒有發生那個人口密集的地方可是我們真的要防範未來當然那新北市已經我相信台南我相信高雄\n486616\t495538\t好多地方的縣市也都有超過40年、50年以上的房子。之前也有一個數據,全台灣超過30年以上的房子佔一半。\n496519\t522415\t所以如果說我們能夠趁現在這個時候還沒有在下一次天災我們不知道什麼時候下一次天災再來但是我們應該要去做這樣的一個建物總體檢那建物總體檢的費用到底夠不夠以及我們能不能大規模做做完之後後續能夠怎麼樣來重建跟補助我覺得這才是關鍵所以我們一起努力我們鼓勵全國有需要的民眾都趕快來申請謝謝好 謝謝侯孟楷委員的質詢接下來我們請吳佩儀委員質詢\n","txt":"陳次長,有請劃次。我想今天各委員為地方發聲天經地義,當然我們把錢花在刀口上。那我先請教一下在今天特別有講到就是疫後的觀光的部分。疫後觀光我覺得交通部這也是重中之重,這也是我們編列預算很希望能夠達到的。\n去年我們達成600萬的觀光客但全世界其實已經高達87%是恢復到以前的一個情況那本席特別有關注到在這一次來講疫後有兩個國家的觀光客其實消退的非常大市長知道哪兩個國家嗎?亞洲啦日本跟韓國日本的觀光客消減了6成韓國的觀光客消減了4成\n當然中國大陸那是因為這個政策因素我想我們先今天就就教國際觀光客的部分我覺得日本跟韓國觀光客過去我們來往的這個頻率其實也互動也蠻頻繁的但是日本削減了6成韓國削減了4成我覺得這是一個很大的一個警訊\n有沒有掌握說那到底現在我們這些預算我們要持續的投入甚至今天要解凍的一個預算我們要再怎麼樣投入能夠針對韓國日本能夠把吸引這些優質的觀光客能夠回來本席的新北市不管是我們淡水不管是我們相關的地方好多韓國日本的觀光客都很喜歡啊但現在大家商圈都講是說就是還沒有回復到以前疫情前的榮景的一半來簡單說明一下\n市長你講的這都是例行,我現在問你比較具體的做法,我們疫後的預算\n今天要解凍,今天要討論,那預算花了,那我們到底要怎麼樣能夠具體針對這部分然後來吸引這些觀光客過來呢?其實在這一個預算裡頭其實有一個很重要的是自由行的部分來加碼五千元的這一部分那這一部分從去年的這個實施的經驗我們看來對於日本跟韓國的觀光客很具吸引力所以我們會持續在這邊來繼續至少我覺得這樣子真的講蠻籠統的啦\n會後你再讓本席知道一下說你們比較具體的做法而且真的是希望是能夠增加這一些自由型然後優質的遊客能夠來到我們台灣這是為我們台灣的整個觀光市長那另外一部分會請教一下交通的輕軌道建設\n本期的選舉裡面現在有幾條輕軌都是已經送了可行性評估包括說巴黎輕軌因為本來希望是淡江大橋2025年能夠完工的時候巴黎輕軌一定的實施但目前沒有辦法可是可行性評估也已經送到了交通部太阪輕軌\n行政院陳建源院長已經核定了第一期叫做五泰輕軌,但是那是可行性評估,可是我們更希望是能夠後發先至,泰山到板橋的泰板輕軌能夠連接萬大線,能夠連接板南線,能夠連接台鐵、高鐵,其實對於整個地方的民眾更加的需要。請教這兩個現在進度勒?據我所知都已經送進去應該快要半年囉。\n對,我跟委員報告一下,先講巴黎輕軌好了。巴黎輕軌的部分,當然新北市有做一些相關的研究,我們也把相關的計畫報到行政院去了。那行政院大家有何負?就是請新北市政府再做一些檢討以後再報。\n那這一部分呢,現在我們的瞭解...已經報,一報再報?我不能每一次報都是你要報,一次問題講清楚有那麼難嗎?這一個巴黎輕軌也已經是可行性評估,就我瞭解,送到我們鐵道局,鐵道局也已經通過之後才從交通部送往行政院,所以照理講專業的部分,可行性載運量以及後續的工程難度,交通部已經都做專業的審查啦?\n我跟委員報告其實這個巴黎輕軌其實他還要更重要是到了淡水的這一部分所以有一個淡海輕軌的這個串聯的營運的方式路線這一部分我們希望請新北市政府再去釐清一下所以這一部分也就是為什麼行政院在核複的公文裡頭特別提到這一段然後因為有這樣的一個因素所以相關的運量的預測也希望他再做精準的一個分析所以相關運量跟串聯\n請榮許,因為這兩個不是我們在地人,不過請榮許本席糾正一下,是淡海輕軌二期要連接到巴黎過來,是延伸到巴黎,並不是巴黎這邊做過來,這是不一樣的概念,不過不管怎麼樣都是連接兩岸,\n本席是不是能夠再請因為次長這一個部分特別強調是新北市政府其實這兩個計畫都已經送入交通部並且本席了解是往行政院送是行政院現在在打回票那中間到底是什麼問題其實也應該要一次釐清讓新北市當然應該要回應要回應但是一次釐清不要來來回回兩三次今天講ABC下一次再講DCE那永遠沒有辦法聚焦想做就我們就應該共同推動\n法定人數不足\n來,次長。04、03地震,那我們看到當然是花蓮,鎮央在花蓮,但實際上新北、台北等幾個都會區也都有受損。而且有些人,我這個不是說發生在哪裡都不好,但有些人真的講是說還好這一次不是發生在人口比較密集的地方,鎮央啦,不然可能那個後果更嚴重。\n我們現在要做的就是防範未來。本席到目前做了解是說新北市在這次04、03完之後才增加了12處的建物是紅單跟黃單,分別是5個紅單跟7個黃單,才那麼少嗎?\n他們會陸續報,其實像新竹縣也是希望說我們給他到5月中陸陸續去報進來,我們都接受。對,那但是現在本席更要問的問題啊,就是有很多人他的一些建築可能第一相對老舊,其實已經30、40年、40、50年的房子。第二他也沒有管委會,就是以前的老公寓。那你如果說要做建物的檢定或說這個建物到底是安不安全,有規列,但他可能他也不一定。\n內政評估我們都會補助啊,我們都會補助\n但現在補助的比例呢?其實我們是初評是幾乎百分百補助。你現在匡列了多少預算來做這個補助?那個好幾年了。好幾年了,不是只有現在。好幾年,但現在重點在於是這次04、03之後,我相信一定有這個需求。我們鼓勵大家趕快來。如果說你告訴大家的話,說不定大家全都來,那那個時候你的預算原額夠不夠?其實因為是基金預算,所以說不夠我們大概就是抄併決來處理就可以。你匡列多少預算?\n這個其實就是重點本席想強調的是說為什麼很多外界在質疑講是說這個有什麼零四零三地震的這個特別條例本席有提到一個觀念這一次真的是天佑台灣天佑中華民國一直都是天佑台灣所以說就是說在這個鎮央如果沒有發生那個人口密集的地方可是我們真的要防範未來當然那新北市已經我相信台南我相信高雄\n好多地方的縣市也都有超過40年、50年以上的房子。之前也有一個數據,全台灣超過30年以上的房子佔一半。\n所以如果說我們能夠趁現在這個時候還沒有在下一次天災我們不知道什麼時候下一次天災再來但是我們應該要去做這樣的一個建物總體檢那建物總體檢的費用到底夠不夠以及我們能不能大規模做做完之後後續能夠怎麼樣來重建跟補助我覺得這才是關鍵所以我們一起努力我們鼓勵全國有需要的民眾都趕快來申請謝謝好 謝謝侯孟楷委員的質詢接下來我們請吳佩儀委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.269 --> 00:26.639\n陳次長,有請劃次。我想今天各委員為地方發聲天經地義,當然我們把錢花在刀口上。那我先請教一下在今天特別有講到就是疫後的觀光的部分。疫後觀光我覺得交通部這也是重中之重,這也是我們編列預算很希望能夠達到的。\n\n00:28.502 --> 00:56.604\n去年我們達成600萬的觀光客但全世界其實已經高達87%是恢復到以前的一個情況那本席特別有關注到在這一次來講疫後有兩個國家的觀光客其實消退的非常大市長知道哪兩個國家嗎?亞洲啦日本跟韓國日本的觀光客消減了6成韓國的觀光客消減了4成\n\n00:58.260 --> 01:16.038\n當然中國大陸那是因為這個政策因素我想我們先今天就就教國際觀光客的部分我覺得日本跟韓國觀光客過去我們來往的這個頻率其實也互動也蠻頻繁的但是日本削減了6成韓國削減了4成我覺得這是一個很大的一個警訊\n\n01:17.139 --> 01:42.258\n有沒有掌握說那到底現在我們這些預算我們要持續的投入甚至今天要解凍的一個預算我們要再怎麼樣投入能夠針對韓國日本能夠把吸引這些優質的觀光客能夠回來本席的新北市不管是我們淡水不管是我們相關的地方好多韓國日本的觀光客都很喜歡啊但現在大家商圈都講是說就是還沒有回復到以前疫情前的榮景的一半來簡單說明一下\n\n01:43.899 --> 01:46.661\n市長你講的這都是例行,我現在問你比較具體的做法,我們疫後的預算\n\n02:04.992 --> 02:32.830\n今天要解凍,今天要討論,那預算花了,那我們到底要怎麼樣能夠具體針對這部分然後來吸引這些觀光客過來呢?其實在這一個預算裡頭其實有一個很重要的是自由行的部分來加碼五千元的這一部分那這一部分從去年的這個實施的經驗我們看來對於日本跟韓國的觀光客很具吸引力所以我們會持續在這邊來繼續至少我覺得這樣子真的講蠻籠統的啦\n\n02:34.651 --> 02:47.706\n會後你再讓本席知道一下說你們比較具體的做法而且真的是希望是能夠增加這一些自由型然後優質的遊客能夠來到我們台灣這是為我們台灣的整個觀光市長那另外一部分會請教一下交通的輕軌道建設\n\n02:49.568 --> 03:06.363\n本期的選舉裡面現在有幾條輕軌都是已經送了可行性評估包括說巴黎輕軌因為本來希望是淡江大橋2025年能夠完工的時候巴黎輕軌一定的實施但目前沒有辦法可是可行性評估也已經送到了交通部太阪輕軌\n\n03:08.208 --> 03:29.041\n行政院陳建源院長已經核定了第一期叫做五泰輕軌,但是那是可行性評估,可是我們更希望是能夠後發先至,泰山到板橋的泰板輕軌能夠連接萬大線,能夠連接板南線,能夠連接台鐵、高鐵,其實對於整個地方的民眾更加的需要。請教這兩個現在進度勒?據我所知都已經送進去應該快要半年囉。\n\n03:30.061 --> 03:48.369\n對,我跟委員報告一下,先講巴黎輕軌好了。巴黎輕軌的部分,當然新北市有做一些相關的研究,我們也把相關的計畫報到行政院去了。那行政院大家有何負?就是請新北市政府再做一些檢討以後再報。\n\n03:49.710 --> 04:15.458\n那這一部分呢,現在我們的瞭解...已經報,一報再報?我不能每一次報都是你要報,一次問題講清楚有那麼難嗎?這一個巴黎輕軌也已經是可行性評估,就我瞭解,送到我們鐵道局,鐵道局也已經通過之後才從交通部送往行政院,所以照理講專業的部分,可行性載運量以及後續的工程難度,交通部已經都做專業的審查啦?\n\n04:16.878 --> 04:44.891\n我跟委員報告其實這個巴黎輕軌其實他還要更重要是到了淡水的這一部分所以有一個淡海輕軌的這個串聯的營運的方式路線這一部分我們希望請新北市政府再去釐清一下所以這一部分也就是為什麼行政院在核複的公文裡頭特別提到這一段然後因為有這樣的一個因素所以相關的運量的預測也希望他再做精準的一個分析所以相關運量跟串聯\n\n04:46.292 --> 05:02.768\n請榮許,因為這兩個不是我們在地人,不過請榮許本席糾正一下,是淡海輕軌二期要連接到巴黎過來,是延伸到巴黎,並不是巴黎這邊做過來,這是不一樣的概念,不過不管怎麼樣都是連接兩岸,\n\n05:03.869 --> 05:31.519\n本席是不是能夠再請因為次長這一個部分特別強調是新北市政府其實這兩個計畫都已經送入交通部並且本席了解是往行政院送是行政院現在在打回票那中間到底是什麼問題其實也應該要一次釐清讓新北市當然應該要回應要回應但是一次釐清不要來來回回兩三次今天講ABC下一次再講DCE那永遠沒有辦法聚焦想做就我們就應該共同推動\n\n05:32.399 --> 05:32.919\n法定人數不足\n\n05:48.570 --> 06:07.824\n來,次長。04、03地震,那我們看到當然是花蓮,鎮央在花蓮,但實際上新北、台北等幾個都會區也都有受損。而且有些人,我這個不是說發生在哪裡都不好,但有些人真的講是說還好這一次不是發生在人口比較密集的地方,鎮央啦,不然可能那個後果更嚴重。\n\n06:08.804 --> 06:21.115\n我們現在要做的就是防範未來。本席到目前做了解是說新北市在這次04、03完之後才增加了12處的建物是紅單跟黃單,分別是5個紅單跟7個黃單,才那麼少嗎?\n\n06:26.580 --> 06:51.162\n他們會陸續報,其實像新竹縣也是希望說我們給他到5月中陸陸續去報進來,我們都接受。對,那但是現在本席更要問的問題啊,就是有很多人他的一些建築可能第一相對老舊,其實已經30、40年、40、50年的房子。第二他也沒有管委會,就是以前的老公寓。那你如果說要做建物的檢定或說這個建物到底是安不安全,有規列,但他可能他也不一定。\n\n06:52.023 --> 06:52.484\n內政評估我們都會補助啊,我們都會補助\n\n07:08.943 --> 07:36.949\n但現在補助的比例呢?其實我們是初評是幾乎百分百補助。你現在匡列了多少預算來做這個補助?那個好幾年了。好幾年了,不是只有現在。好幾年,但現在重點在於是這次04、03之後,我相信一定有這個需求。我們鼓勵大家趕快來。如果說你告訴大家的話,說不定大家全都來,那那個時候你的預算原額夠不夠?其實因為是基金預算,所以說不夠我們大概就是抄併決來處理就可以。你匡列多少預算?\n\n07:41.350 --> 08:06.076\n這個其實就是重點本席想強調的是說為什麼很多外界在質疑講是說這個有什麼零四零三地震的這個特別條例本席有提到一個觀念這一次真的是天佑台灣天佑中華民國一直都是天佑台灣所以說就是說在這個鎮央如果沒有發生那個人口密集的地方可是我們真的要防範未來當然那新北市已經我相信台南我相信高雄\n\n08:06.616 --> 08:15.538\n好多地方的縣市也都有超過40年、50年以上的房子。之前也有一個數據,全台灣超過30年以上的房子佔一半。\n\n08:16.519 --> 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