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00:02:33,712\n說實在的我們從剛剛的軌道建設到現在地方居民每天在走的人行步道每一項每一項甚至是連教育部相關斑斑有冷氣也是有這樣的前瞻預算在裡面\n\n8\n00:02:35,894 --> 00:03:00,291\n所以要知道這樣的一筆錢一筆預算如果用得好真的是對過去少資源易住到的鄉村就像我的選區也沒有很遠是新北市的樹林英哥新莊而已但我們可以改善的基礎建設真的非常的多市長今天你在這裡剛剛有很多建設是跟你的部會相關的\n\n9\n00:03:02,072 --> 00:03:17,238\n請問,你個人支不支持,如果我們520的新政府上任之後,我們再來找尋裁員或者編列計畫,我們再提供一個像前瞻這樣的預算,你覺得可行嗎?你支持嗎?\n\n10\n00:03:18,444 --> 00:03:41,158\n我想國家建設本來就是要有些大破例來執行一些大方案,那任何一個新政府的上台,確實是有這樣子的必要,來用一個更大的視野改善一些長期結構性的困境,那用充分的預算來執行是對的。老實講啦,今天是在談解凍,但是我們回去地方,大家都在問,委員你把引導裝水槓啊?\n\n11\n00:03:43,660 --> 00:03:44,280\n一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案。\n\n12\n00:04:00,567 --> 00:04:13,047\n兩邊的政黨在這裡吵得不可開交好像前瞻是很邪惡的不好的他們都一直在反對但是回到地方以後等於是大家都在吵吵的是預算可不可以多來一點我選區\n\n13\n00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:43,698\n變成是在院內吵架院外爭取這種奇特的現象所以我是覺得啦如果可以的話未來的新政府上任之後實在是應該繼續延續這樣的好的概念這是第一題也藉這個機會向在場所有認真執行計畫的公務員人士致上謝意謝謝你們改善了所有台灣人民的基礎建設以及每天的生活\n\n14\n00:04:44,912 --> 00:05:12,037\n好那另外第二題的話其實也是要問次長啦這就真的是你的題目大家也都在問耐震補強的部分喔那我想耐震補強其實是在地震之後我們在做了非常多的地震相關救災也好補助措施也好另外一個針對既有狀況的加強那次長你知道我們現在的耐震補強其實有計畫但是執行率不是很好你知道最主要的原因你會歸結於什麼\n\n15\n00:05:13,868 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03:41.158\n我想國家建設本來就是要有些大破例來執行一些大方案,那任何一個新政府的上台,確實是有這樣子的必要,來用一個更大的視野改善一些長期結構性的困境,那用充分的預算來執行是對的。老實講啦,今天是在談解凍,但是我們回去地方,大家都在問,委員你把引導裝水槓啊?\n\n03:43.660 --> 03:44.280\n一、有關教育部主管預算凍結書面報告案。\n\n04:00.567 --> 04:13.047\n兩邊的政黨在這裡吵得不可開交好像前瞻是很邪惡的不好的他們都一直在反對但是回到地方以後等於是大家都在吵吵的是預算可不可以多來一點我選區\n\n04:14.560 --> 04:43.698\n變成是在院內吵架院外爭取這種奇特的現象所以我是覺得啦如果可以的話未來的新政府上任之後實在是應該繼續延續這樣的好的概念這是第一題也藉這個機會向在場所有認真執行計畫的公務員人士致上謝意謝謝你們改善了所有台灣人民的基礎建設以及每天的生活\n\n04:44.912 --> 05:12.037\n好那另外第二題的話其實也是要問次長啦這就真的是你的題目大家也都在問耐震補強的部分喔那我想耐震補強其實是在地震之後我們在做了非常多的地震相關救災也好補助措施也好另外一個針對既有狀況的加強那次長你知道我們現在的耐震補強其實有計畫但是執行率不是很好你知道最主要的原因你會歸結於什麼\n\n05:13.868 --> 05:28.855\n我想第一個當然整合的困難還有這個整合困難整合困難是關鍵那當然另外就是費用的負擔是啊另外的費用負擔嘛其實是這兩個最多第三個還有另外一個啦其實是\n\n05:30.295 --> 05:55.875\n這個地方的這個建物如果被評價為說需要內政補強那對當地居民來講哇!我的房價是不是會有影響其他的人會不會覺得我這不安全其實心情上反而是變成他去評估反而他受損害那我想市長你很清楚這個狀況另外兩點也是我完全同意的所以我認為其實我們是不是可以跟國土署這邊商量一下把這個意見帶回去\n\n05:56.796 --> 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