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00:01:34,213\n所以在姓名恢復上是有增加增加了好那接下來就是問到比較務實的事情像是我們如果新生兒要重新用就是用我們的新的主義方式命名他或許不會比較大的問題但像假設像本席這樣子本席有原住民身份我要恢復的話那可能問題就會比較多一點包括我從所有的資料都要變更那包括我的結婚證書可能要改這些都要改名字\n\n6\n00:01:34,813 --> 00:01:53,999\n第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第\n\n7\n00:01:56,584 --> 00:02:17,402\n根委員報告,確實在實務上除了你在互證機關恢復傳統姓名之外,你現有的相關的證件包括駕照、要去檢理照等等都要換。所以這個就是我們研民會針對為什麼我們要持續來推動恢復傳統姓名單一窗口這個工作。當然因為涉及的面很廣,我們要去協調。\n\n8\n00:02:18,223 --> 00:02:35,811\n本席要說的是說在不同的部會裡面他就要各自去辦理嘛對不對像你互證的跟地證就要分開來辦嘛我們還不包括我們民間比如說我在銀行的存款有什麼資料都要弄嘛那是不是因為這個是考這個是因為我們的整個系統沒有聯動的這個勾結的關係嘛\n\n9\n00:02:37,131 --> 00:02:57,956\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n\n10\n00:03:07,472 --> 00:03:24,045\n委員跟你報告一下,我來幫委員稍微說一下,因為這個牽扯的範圍會非常非常廣。你想得到的,現在想得到的,或者是可能一時還沒想到的,它會牽扯到所有跟個人身份有關係的一切事宜。\n\n11\n00:03:25,446 --> 00:03:30,529\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n\n12\n00:03:37,157 --> 00:04:00,869\n這個可能會有一些困難因為不只是銀行其實包括剛剛在講我們的這個地政的系統地政的系統就算他可以接可是他沒有辦法在這個地方重新比如說馬上給你一個這個新的地級的一個藤本或者是房屋的一個所有權的一個藤本因為這個都會涉及到人民的財產的這個相關的觀念\n\n13\n00:04:03,310 --> 00:04:10,956\n二條及第三條及第四條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n\n14\n00:04:18,341 --> 00:04:46,059\n申請然後所有一切的這個全部通通都馬上改馬上取得這個可能需要原民會再進一步跟國際監管單位提到的就是我們未來都會遇到問題我們現在可以開始再做準備不要當法令執行下去之後發現問題更多這造成我們主任的困擾這是本席的這個建議我剛剛在講說希望給我們行政機關一些時間把這個事情把它做得更完美\n\n15\n00:04:46,879 --> 00:05:07,068\n謝謝部長,謝謝部長的說明。那部長,接下來我們在委員會要見面時間越來越少了。我已經回覆了我的部會要怎麼開工了,就要向你請教一個問題。部長本席支持,只要是對人民有利的事,對事情對的事情,我們錢要把它開來,把它取下去。\n\n16\n00:05:08,328 --> 00:05:20,817\n絕對不要做其他考量,只要對民眾的話,錢就是要花。Justdoit!所以在這件事底下,我們是要追蹤一下一些進度。請問部長,在去年還在立委選舉的時候,部長是不是有到過台東?去哪裡?\n\n17\n00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:50,309\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「\n\n18\n00:05:52,270 --> 00:06:11,761\n我相信,但是台東不只有那個國小嘛,像柏中你一輩子因為選舉你比較累啦,我相信昨天不是這樣,有的要照顧地方,所以本期是很羨慕有些委員在,像中部委員他們當時在跟國土署來陳情就拿了7000萬在改善這個周邊的學童同學步道,但是不是\n\n19\n00:06:13,462 --> 00:06:37,472\n部長,台東是一個窮縣,我們沒有大型企業的機器,所以說比較少。部長,為了台東學童的安危,本市要求國土署,是不是可以要求國土署編列額外的補助,針對我們各縣市繳稅平均數之下的縣市,特別像台東縣這樣的縣市,給予更多的經費,來改善校園周邊的交通安全。部長,這樣說,是不是可以支持我們國土署的本業?\n\n20\n00:06:38,849 --> 00:07:05,905\n委員跟你報告因為這會牽扯到整個遊戲就是說整個制度的規則因為現在對地方的補助是依照財政的一個等級那第二個我跟你報告就是說我們我們的經費基本上是充足的因為四年400億一年就有100億那過去執行大概一年最多50幾億所以我們的預算是充足的那第二個還有一個更重要的是這個必須要縣市政府他提案\n\n21\n00:07:06,445 --> 00:07:34,640\n他比較提出來,提出來之後國土署才有辦法去做進一步的審查。那未來針對這些,像臺東縣財運不是這麼創意,署裡面怎麼可以來協助?就只是未來國土署來協助臺東縣,可不可以請部長來協助?我想協助是沒有問題,不過剛剛我一直提到,這個事情,特別是地方的通學環境等等,其實地方政府非常重要。他如果自己很積極,像我以前基隆市,基隆市的財政是全國第二差的,比臺東還差。\n\n22\n00:07:36,281 --> 00:07:59,453\n對可是我也可以在8年的時候時間裡面把它做很大的改善這個是一個資源運用調配的一個問題至於有必要的案件我們一定會全力來支持謝謝部長的請教謝謝部長的回覆包主席再給我一點點時間我要再請教另外跟學童有關係的事情學校的安全除了學校在保護以外另外就是一個我們的地方的村里長\n\n23\n00:08:00,618 --> 00:08:19,816\n所以他們除了會當一些志工或是留意我們周邊學校安全以外所以常常我們都會稱他們為土地公土地婆那當然他們為這個國家付出我們值得來表揚他們也要肯定他們所以俊文部長準備要發紅包給我們全國的處理長\n\n24\n00:08:21,838 --> 00:08:46,379\n年終獎金1.5個月,是這件事情?不是我要發,其實這個是我們從去年的時候就已經開始在做討論,那是考慮到我們的村里長他對於薪水,我們是討論甚至到要不要發薪水的這個問題,但是意見不一,所以我們有共識就是村里長他的一個事務補助費,\n\n25\n00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:48,341\n乘以1.5個月來當成這個年終的一個慰勞金\n\n26\n00:09:03,195 --> 00:09:27,357\n這一個案子現在行政院今天的院會正在討論那討論完之後因為他必須要修法會送到大院來做審議那今年來得及完成法律的一個程序的話應該年終的慰勞金應該在明年的時候是有機會可以發放先謝謝部長不過部長我們是要問到縣市面的這條行是中央處還是地方處沒有地方政府編列預算\n\n27\n00:09:28,919 --> 00:09:31,862\n審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n\n28\n00:09:49,596 --> 00:10:17,715\n最開始是我的版本然後我本來就要排了但是聽到我們的部長還有院長好像都樂觀其成但是最重要的就是你剛才提到的問題這個財政到底是由地方支出還是中央支出還是按照統籌分配款裡面再怎麼樣這個就是我們下個禮拜要討論的部分所以把時間留在下個禮拜那個趙偉我10秒鐘補充一下因為今天談到援助民主的事情其實在\n\n29\n00:10:18,575 --> 00:10:44,204\n剛剛提到的村里長還有包括民意代表部分我們是額外加10%所以原住民族的這個就是說他在原鄉的直轄市議員或者是非直轄市議員的這個鄉鎮村區等等他的這個事務費的一個補助我們是額外加10%就是因為他的幅員廣闊交通不便這部分我們有考慮進來\n\n30\n00:10:44,974 --> 00:10:52,563\n二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n29\t2754\t二、姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員\n9019\t32599\t二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n34221\t46021\t人口28000多人,佔原住民4.79%。未來這個法通過之後,移民會有沒有其他作為可以提高這個比例?\n49891\t63948\t跟委員報告我們是持續召開恢復傳統姓名的這個便利措施的協調那我們也鼓勵我們的地方政府呢針對不管是恢復傳統姓名的單一窗口或是貴賄的部分來協助\n65770\t94213\t所以在姓名恢復上是有增加增加了好那接下來就是問到比較務實的事情像是我們如果新生兒要重新用就是用我們的新的主義方式命名他或許不會比較大的問題但像假設像本席這樣子本席有原住民身份我要恢復的話那可能問題就會比較多一點包括我從所有的資料都要變更那包括我的結婚證書可能要改這些都要改名字\n94813\t113999\t第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第\n116584\t137402\t根委員報告,確實在實務上除了你在互證機關恢復傳統姓名之外,你現有的相關的證件包括駕照、要去檢理照等等都要換。所以這個就是我們研民會針對為什麼我們要持續來推動恢復傳統姓名單一窗口這個工作。當然因為涉及的面很廣,我們要去協調。\n138223\t155811\t本席要說的是說在不同的部會裡面他就要各自去辦理嘛對不對像你互證的跟地證就要分開來辦嘛我們還不包括我們民間比如說我在銀行的存款有什麼資料都要弄嘛那是不是因為這個是考這個是因為我們的整個系統沒有聯動的這個勾結的關係嘛\n157131\t177956\t二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n187472\t204045\t委員跟你報告一下,我來幫委員稍微說一下,因為這個牽扯的範圍會非常非常廣。你想得到的,現在想得到的,或者是可能一時還沒想到的,它會牽扯到所有跟個人身份有關係的一切事宜。\n205446\t210529\t二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n217157\t240869\t這個可能會有一些困難因為不只是銀行其實包括剛剛在講我們的這個地政的系統地政的系統就算他可以接可是他沒有辦法在這個地方重新比如說馬上給你一個這個新的地級的一個藤本或者是房屋的一個所有權的一個藤本因為這個都會涉及到人民的財產的這個相關的觀念\n243310\t250956\t二條及第三條及第四條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n258341\t286059\t申請然後所有一切的這個全部通通都馬上改馬上取得這個可能需要原民會再進一步跟國際監管單位提到的就是我們未來都會遇到問題我們現在可以開始再做準備不要當法令執行下去之後發現問題更多這造成我們主任的困擾這是本席的這個建議我剛剛在講說希望給我們行政機關一些時間把這個事情把它做得更完美\n286879\t307068\t謝謝部長,謝謝部長的說明。那部長,接下來我們在委員會要見面時間越來越少了。我已經回覆了我的部會要怎麼開工了,就要向你請教一個問題。部長本席支持,只要是對人民有利的事,對事情對的事情,我們錢要把它開來,把它取下去。\n308328\t320817\t絕對不要做其他考量,只要對民眾的話,錢就是要花。Just do it!所以在這件事底下,我們是要追蹤一下一些進度。請問部長,在去年還在立委選舉的時候,部長是不是有到過台東?去哪裡?\n323439\t350309\t二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「\n352270\t371761\t我相信,但是台東不只有那個國小嘛,像柏中你一輩子因為選舉你比較累啦,我相信昨天不是這樣,有的要照顧地方,所以本期是很羨慕有些委員在,像中部委員他們當時在跟國土署來陳情就拿了7000萬在改善這個周邊的學童同學步道,但是不是\n373462\t397472\t部長,台東是一個窮縣,我們沒有大型企業的機器,所以說比較少。部長,為了台東學童的安危,本市要求國土署,是不是可以要求國土署編列額外的補助,針對我們各縣市繳稅平均數之下的縣市,特別像台東縣這樣的縣市,給予更多的經費,來改善校園周邊的交通安全。部長,這樣說,是不是可以支持我們國土署的本業?\n398849\t425905\t委員跟你報告因為這會牽扯到整個遊戲就是說整個制度的規則因為現在對地方的補助是依照財政的一個等級那第二個我跟你報告就是說我們我們的經費基本上是充足的因為四年400億一年就有100億那過去執行大概一年最多50幾億所以我們的預算是充足的那第二個還有一個更重要的是這個必須要縣市政府他提案\n426445\t454640\t他比較提出來,提出來之後國土署才有辦法去做進一步的審查。那未來針對這些,像臺東縣財運不是這麼創意,署裡面怎麼可以來協助?就只是未來國土署來協助臺東縣,可不可以請部長來協助?我想協助是沒有問題,不過剛剛我一直提到,這個事情,特別是地方的通學環境等等,其實地方政府非常重要。他如果自己很積極,像我以前基隆市,基隆市的財政是全國第二差的,比臺東還差。\n456281\t479453\t對可是我也可以在8年的時候時間裡面把它做很大的改善這個是一個資源運用調配的一個問題至於有必要的案件我們一定會全力來支持謝謝部長的請教謝謝部長的回覆包主席再給我一點點時間我要再請教另外跟學童有關係的事情學校的安全除了學校在保護以外另外就是一個我們的地方的村里長\n480618\t499816\t所以他們除了會當一些志工或是留意我們周邊學校安全以外所以常常我們都會稱他們為土地公土地婆那當然他們為這個國家付出我們值得來表揚他們也要肯定他們所以俊文部長準備要發紅包給我們全國的處理長\n501838\t526379\t年終獎金1.5個月,是這件事情?不是我要發,其實這個是我們從去年的時候就已經開始在做討論,那是考慮到我們的村里長他對於薪水,我們是討論甚至到要不要發薪水的這個問題,但是意見不一,所以我們有共識就是村里長他的一個事務補助費,\n527640\t528341\t乘以1.5個月來當成這個年終的一個慰勞金\n543195\t567357\t這一個案子現在行政院今天的院會正在討論那討論完之後因為他必須要修法會送到大院來做審議那今年來得及完成法律的一個程序的話應該年終的慰勞金應該在明年的時候是有機會可以發放先謝謝部長不過部長我們是要問到縣市面的這條行是中央處還是地方處沒有地方政府編列預算\n568919\t571862\t審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n589596\t617715\t最開始是我的版本然後我本來就要排了但是聽到我們的部長還有院長好像都樂觀其成但是最重要的就是你剛才提到的問題這個財政到底是由地方支出還是中央支出還是按照統籌分配款裡面再怎麼樣這個就是我們下個禮拜要討論的部分所以把時間留在下個禮拜那個趙偉我10秒鐘補充一下因為今天談到援助民主的事情其實在\n618575\t644204\t剛剛提到的村里長還有包括民意代表部分我們是額外加10%所以原住民族的這個就是說他在原鄉的直轄市議員或者是非直轄市議員的這個鄉鎮村區等等他的這個事務費的一個補助我們是額外加10%就是因為他的幅員廣闊交通不便這部分我們有考慮進來\n644974\t652563\t二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n","txt":"二、姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員\n二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n人口28000多人,佔原住民4.79%。未來這個法通過之後,移民會有沒有其他作為可以提高這個比例?\n跟委員報告我們是持續召開恢復傳統姓名的這個便利措施的協調那我們也鼓勵我們的地方政府呢針對不管是恢復傳統姓名的單一窗口或是貴賄的部分來協助\n所以在姓名恢復上是有增加增加了好那接下來就是問到比較務實的事情像是我們如果新生兒要重新用就是用我們的新的主義方式命名他或許不會比較大的問題但像假設像本席這樣子本席有原住民身份我要恢復的話那可能問題就會比較多一點包括我從所有的資料都要變更那包括我的結婚證書可能要改這些都要改名字\n第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第\n根委員報告,確實在實務上除了你在互證機關恢復傳統姓名之外,你現有的相關的證件包括駕照、要去檢理照等等都要換。所以這個就是我們研民會針對為什麼我們要持續來推動恢復傳統姓名單一窗口這個工作。當然因為涉及的面很廣,我們要去協調。\n本席要說的是說在不同的部會裡面他就要各自去辦理嘛對不對像你互證的跟地證就要分開來辦嘛我們還不包括我們民間比如說我在銀行的存款有什麼資料都要弄嘛那是不是因為這個是考這個是因為我們的整個系統沒有聯動的這個勾結的關係嘛\n二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n委員跟你報告一下,我來幫委員稍微說一下,因為這個牽扯的範圍會非常非常廣。你想得到的,現在想得到的,或者是可能一時還沒想到的,它會牽扯到所有跟個人身份有關係的一切事宜。\n二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n這個可能會有一些困難因為不只是銀行其實包括剛剛在講我們的這個地政的系統地政的系統就算他可以接可是他沒有辦法在這個地方重新比如說馬上給你一個這個新的地級的一個藤本或者是房屋的一個所有權的一個藤本因為這個都會涉及到人民的財產的這個相關的觀念\n二條及第三條及第四條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n申請然後所有一切的這個全部通通都馬上改馬上取得這個可能需要原民會再進一步跟國際監管單位提到的就是我們未來都會遇到問題我們現在可以開始再做準備不要當法令執行下去之後發現問題更多這造成我們主任的困擾這是本席的這個建議我剛剛在講說希望給我們行政機關一些時間把這個事情把它做得更完美\n謝謝部長,謝謝部長的說明。那部長,接下來我們在委員會要見面時間越來越少了。我已經回覆了我的部會要怎麼開工了,就要向你請教一個問題。部長本席支持,只要是對人民有利的事,對事情對的事情,我們錢要把它開來,把它取下去。\n絕對不要做其他考量,只要對民眾的話,錢就是要花。Just do it!所以在這件事底下,我們是要追蹤一下一些進度。請問部長,在去年還在立委選舉的時候,部長是不是有到過台東?去哪裡?\n二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「\n我相信,但是台東不只有那個國小嘛,像柏中你一輩子因為選舉你比較累啦,我相信昨天不是這樣,有的要照顧地方,所以本期是很羨慕有些委員在,像中部委員他們當時在跟國土署來陳情就拿了7000萬在改善這個周邊的學童同學步道,但是不是\n部長,台東是一個窮縣,我們沒有大型企業的機器,所以說比較少。部長,為了台東學童的安危,本市要求國土署,是不是可以要求國土署編列額外的補助,針對我們各縣市繳稅平均數之下的縣市,特別像台東縣這樣的縣市,給予更多的經費,來改善校園周邊的交通安全。部長,這樣說,是不是可以支持我們國土署的本業?\n委員跟你報告因為這會牽扯到整個遊戲就是說整個制度的規則因為現在對地方的補助是依照財政的一個等級那第二個我跟你報告就是說我們我們的經費基本上是充足的因為四年400億一年就有100億那過去執行大概一年最多50幾億所以我們的預算是充足的那第二個還有一個更重要的是這個必須要縣市政府他提案\n他比較提出來,提出來之後國土署才有辦法去做進一步的審查。那未來針對這些,像臺東縣財運不是這麼創意,署裡面怎麼可以來協助?就只是未來國土署來協助臺東縣,可不可以請部長來協助?我想協助是沒有問題,不過剛剛我一直提到,這個事情,特別是地方的通學環境等等,其實地方政府非常重要。他如果自己很積極,像我以前基隆市,基隆市的財政是全國第二差的,比臺東還差。\n對可是我也可以在8年的時候時間裡面把它做很大的改善這個是一個資源運用調配的一個問題至於有必要的案件我們一定會全力來支持謝謝部長的請教謝謝部長的回覆包主席再給我一點點時間我要再請教另外跟學童有關係的事情學校的安全除了學校在保護以外另外就是一個我們的地方的村里長\n所以他們除了會當一些志工或是留意我們周邊學校安全以外所以常常我們都會稱他們為土地公土地婆那當然他們為這個國家付出我們值得來表揚他們也要肯定他們所以俊文部長準備要發紅包給我們全國的處理長\n年終獎金1.5個月,是這件事情?不是我要發,其實這個是我們從去年的時候就已經開始在做討論,那是考慮到我們的村里長他對於薪水,我們是討論甚至到要不要發薪水的這個問題,但是意見不一,所以我們有共識就是村里長他的一個事務補助費,\n乘以1.5個月來當成這個年終的一個慰勞金\n這一個案子現在行政院今天的院會正在討論那討論完之後因為他必須要修法會送到大院來做審議那今年來得及完成法律的一個程序的話應該年終的慰勞金應該在明年的時候是有機會可以發放先謝謝部長不過部長我們是要問到縣市面的這條行是中央處還是地方處沒有地方政府編列預算\n審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n最開始是我的版本然後我本來就要排了但是聽到我們的部長還有院長好像都樂觀其成但是最重要的就是你剛才提到的問題這個財政到底是由地方支出還是中央支出還是按照統籌分配款裡面再怎麼樣這個就是我們下個禮拜要討論的部分所以把時間留在下個禮拜那個趙偉我10秒鐘補充一下因為今天談到援助民主的事情其實在\n剛剛提到的村里長還有包括民意代表部分我們是額外加10%所以原住民族的這個就是說他在原鄉的直轄市議員或者是非直轄市議員的這個鄉鎮村區等等他的這個事務費的一個補助我們是額外加10%就是因為他的幅員廣闊交通不便這部分我們有考慮進來\n二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.029 --> 00:02.754\n二、姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員\n\n00:09.019 --> 00:32.599\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具、「姓名條例第二條及第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n\n00:34.221 --> 00:46.021\n人口28000多人,佔原住民4.79%。未來這個法通過之後,移民會有沒有其他作為可以提高這個比例?\n\n00:49.891 --> 01:03.948\n跟委員報告我們是持續召開恢復傳統姓名的這個便利措施的協調那我們也鼓勵我們的地方政府呢針對不管是恢復傳統姓名的單一窗口或是貴賄的部分來協助\n\n01:05.770 --> 01:34.213\n所以在姓名恢復上是有增加增加了好那接下來就是問到比較務實的事情像是我們如果新生兒要重新用就是用我們的新的主義方式命名他或許不會比較大的問題但像假設像本席這樣子本席有原住民身份我要恢復的話那可能問題就會比較多一點包括我從所有的資料都要變更那包括我的結婚證書可能要改這些都要改名字\n\n01:34.813 --> 01:53.999\n第二條及第三條及第四條及第七條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第\n\n01:56.584 --> 02:17.402\n根委員報告,確實在實務上除了你在互證機關恢復傳統姓名之外,你現有的相關的證件包括駕照、要去檢理照等等都要換。所以這個就是我們研民會針對為什麼我們要持續來推動恢復傳統姓名單一窗口這個工作。當然因為涉及的面很廣,我們要去協調。\n\n02:18.223 --> 02:35.811\n本席要說的是說在不同的部會裡面他就要各自去辦理嘛對不對像你互證的跟地證就要分開來辦嘛我們還不包括我們民間比如說我在銀行的存款有什麼資料都要弄嘛那是不是因為這個是考這個是因為我們的整個系統沒有聯動的這個勾結的關係嘛\n\n02:37.131 --> 02:57.956\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第三條及第四條及第五條及第六條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n\n03:07.472 --> 03:24.045\n委員跟你報告一下,我來幫委員稍微說一下,因為這個牽扯的範圍會非常非常廣。你想得到的,現在想得到的,或者是可能一時還沒想到的,它會牽扯到所有跟個人身份有關係的一切事宜。\n\n03:25.446 --> 03:30.529\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n\n03:37.157 --> 04:00.869\n這個可能會有一些困難因為不只是銀行其實包括剛剛在講我們的這個地政的系統地政的系統就算他可以接可是他沒有辦法在這個地方重新比如說馬上給你一個這個新的地級的一個藤本或者是房屋的一個所有權的一個藤本因為這個都會涉及到人民的財產的這個相關的觀念\n\n04:03.310 --> 04:10.956\n二條及第三條及第四條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及第八條及\n\n04:18.341 --> 04:46.059\n申請然後所有一切的這個全部通通都馬上改馬上取得這個可能需要原民會再進一步跟國際監管單位提到的就是我們未來都會遇到問題我們現在可以開始再做準備不要當法令執行下去之後發現問題更多這造成我們主任的困擾這是本席的這個建議我剛剛在講說希望給我們行政機關一些時間把這個事情把它做得更完美\n\n04:46.879 --> 05:07.068\n謝謝部長,謝謝部長的說明。那部長,接下來我們在委員會要見面時間越來越少了。我已經回覆了我的部會要怎麼開工了,就要向你請教一個問題。部長本席支持,只要是對人民有利的事,對事情對的事情,我們錢要把它開來,把它取下去。\n\n05:08.328 --> 05:20.817\n絕對不要做其他考量,只要對民眾的話,錢就是要花。Justdoit!所以在這件事底下,我們是要追蹤一下一些進度。請問部長,在去年還在立委選舉的時候,部長是不是有到過台東?去哪裡?\n\n05:23.439 --> 05:50.309\n二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。二、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。三、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。四、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例部分條文修正草案案。五、審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「\n\n05:52.270 --> 06:11.761\n我相信,但是台東不只有那個國小嘛,像柏中你一輩子因為選舉你比較累啦,我相信昨天不是這樣,有的要照顧地方,所以本期是很羨慕有些委員在,像中部委員他們當時在跟國土署來陳情就拿了7000萬在改善這個周邊的學童同學步道,但是不是\n\n06:13.462 --> 06:37.472\n部長,台東是一個窮縣,我們沒有大型企業的機器,所以說比較少。部長,為了台東學童的安危,本市要求國土署,是不是可以要求國土署編列額外的補助,針對我們各縣市繳稅平均數之下的縣市,特別像台東縣這樣的縣市,給予更多的經費,來改善校園周邊的交通安全。部長,這樣說,是不是可以支持我們國土署的本業?\n\n06:38.849 --> 07:05.905\n委員跟你報告因為這會牽扯到整個遊戲就是說整個制度的規則因為現在對地方的補助是依照財政的一個等級那第二個我跟你報告就是說我們我們的經費基本上是充足的因為四年400億一年就有100億那過去執行大概一年最多50幾億所以我們的預算是充足的那第二個還有一個更重要的是這個必須要縣市政府他提案\n\n07:06.445 --> 07:34.640\n他比較提出來,提出來之後國土署才有辦法去做進一步的審查。那未來針對這些,像臺東縣財運不是這麼創意,署裡面怎麼可以來協助?就只是未來國土署來協助臺東縣,可不可以請部長來協助?我想協助是沒有問題,不過剛剛我一直提到,這個事情,特別是地方的通學環境等等,其實地方政府非常重要。他如果自己很積極,像我以前基隆市,基隆市的財政是全國第二差的,比臺東還差。\n\n07:36.281 --> 07:59.453\n對可是我也可以在8年的時候時間裡面把它做很大的改善這個是一個資源運用調配的一個問題至於有必要的案件我們一定會全力來支持謝謝部長的請教謝謝部長的回覆包主席再給我一點點時間我要再請教另外跟學童有關係的事情學校的安全除了學校在保護以外另外就是一個我們的地方的村里長\n\n08:00.618 --> 08:19.816\n所以他們除了會當一些志工或是留意我們周邊學校安全以外所以常常我們都會稱他們為土地公土地婆那當然他們為這個國家付出我們值得來表揚他們也要肯定他們所以俊文部長準備要發紅包給我們全國的處理長\n\n08:21.838 --> 08:46.379\n年終獎金1.5個月,是這件事情?不是我要發,其實這個是我們從去年的時候就已經開始在做討論,那是考慮到我們的村里長他對於薪水,我們是討論甚至到要不要發薪水的這個問題,但是意見不一,所以我們有共識就是村里長他的一個事務補助費,\n\n08:47.640 --> 08:48.341\n乘以1.5個月來當成這個年終的一個慰勞金\n\n09:03.195 --> 09:27.357\n這一個案子現在行政院今天的院會正在討論那討論完之後因為他必須要修法會送到大院來做審議那今年來得及完成法律的一個程序的話應該年終的慰勞金應該在明年的時候是有機會可以發放先謝謝部長不過部長我們是要問到縣市面的這條行是中央處還是地方處沒有地方政府編列預算\n\n09:28.919 --> 09:31.862\n審查委員鄭天財SraKacaw等21人擬具:「姓名條例第二條及第\n\n09:49.596 --> 10:17.715\n最開始是我的版本然後我本來就要排了但是聽到我們的部長還有院長好像都樂觀其成但是最重要的就是你剛才提到的問題這個財政到底是由地方支出還是中央支出還是按照統籌分配款裡面再怎麼樣這個就是我們下個禮拜要討論的部分所以把時間留在下個禮拜那個趙偉我10秒鐘補充一下因為今天談到援助民主的事情其實在\n\n10:18.575 --> 10:44.204\n剛剛提到的村里長還有包括民意代表部分我們是額外加10%所以原住民族的這個就是說他在原鄉的直轄市議員或者是非直轄市議員的這個鄉鎮村區等等他的這個事務費的一個補助我們是額外加10%就是因為他的幅員廣闊交通不便這部分我們有考慮進來\n\n10:44.974 --> 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