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00:01:50,443\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期\n\n6\n00:01:50,763 --> 00:02:09,615\n整個嘉義縣所有的新船分部無法運作200名弱勢孩童會沒有人做客服請問針對這200名的這個弱勢學童有什麼備案如果現在你不知道我提出來了那你有沒有想過如果面對我說的沒有任何的一個偏差\n\n7\n00:02:10,916 --> 00:02:25,213\n因為這畢竟是我們自己的國立大學我有請署長可能會同高教師瞭解一下因為這個方案可能應該是學校原來可能主動的跟剛才講的新傳的合作\n\n8\n00:02:25,794 --> 00:02:27,214\n大學社會責任USR計畫有不少學校會去選擇跟地方學生弱勢孩子的輔助學習\n\n9\n00:02:49,682 --> 00:03:05,878\n這就是我們的政策之一我們樂見合作當然有一些理念可能不同還是資源不足我們講清楚說明白但是我們更重視的是這200多名的孩童有沒有備案去做克服我們先了解一下學校到底發生了什麼事如果能夠延續那對學校對學生都好啦我們先了解一下因為我對這個狀況還沒有掌握\n\n10\n00:03:11,684 --> 00:03:13,946\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會\n\n11\n00:03:26,938 --> 00:03:55,419\n放學後沒有人做一個輔導那缺乏成就感跟自信心不但無法靠著教育在做翻轉的一個人生我想這個部分我們教育部才會有這個夜光天使點燈計畫這個我又要帶到我們的夜光天使點燈計畫但是弱勢族群不只是在偏遠地區偏鄉在都會中呢我想我們朝偉也很關心高雄啊或者是我們台中都會有所謂的弱勢族群也不是少數窩居在整個都市城市的一個角落而被忽略到\n\n12\n00:03:55,879 --> 00:04:20,434\n那我之前跟你特別拜託齁那也非常感謝有做相繼的一個追蹤但是我還是要問一下葉光天使點燈專案計畫台中市目前延伸到寒暑假國中由台中市辦目前規劃進度我請市長跟你報告市長跟我講謝謝委員齁因為已經有幾個區已經有一些目標的國中我們也實際做媒合啦一直在關心這件事情但是媒合的結果到底怎麼樣上限日具體時間\n\n13\n00:04:21,997 --> 00:04:28,481\n中西東南區總共有四所學校,三所國中以及一個樂業國小,加起來四個學校已經有這個事辦的意願。目前就是照委員講的,\n\n14\n00:04:44,431 --> 00:05:08,174\n寒台暫未到暑假來開始,所以我們預期在113學年8月份給學校一個規劃的時間,地方政府會報上來,有些細節再跟委員報告。如果7月份也要報的話,可能要一個期前的示範計畫,這個台中市已經報我們的這個計畫中,有一些細節我們定期跟委員回報。最近的一次是下禮拜二,再跟您辦公室做報告,謝謝。\n\n15\n00:05:08,755 --> 00:05:25,292\n因為我中區沒有國中啦,西區都是以這個升學為導向啦,沒有需求,那沒關係我們尊重嘛那這兩區沒有提出需求,因為我們昭緯也很關心高雄啦,也跟我特別交代是不是高雄這部分的事辦計畫呢,也可以跟昭緯做一個接洽我們在高雄這個也要特別的關注我們課後輔導的一個問題\n\n16\n00:05:30,357 --> 00:05:44,605\n這個可以嗎?應該是沒有問題,我們先把台中這四項做了一個完整的處理。部長您要離去了,但是您的名會留在這裡,歷史會記錄你這一刻,再給我們答應一下可以嗎?謝謝,關鍵,沒有啦,這個我覺得,我一向很務實啦,這個我覺得有必要,但是怎麼推才會順利,所以您當時提我跟署長這邊,我們就說就積極的進行,如果說趙薇這邊對我們高雄等等也有這樣,\n\n17\n00:05:58,533 --> 00:05:59,273\n發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。\n\n18\n00:06:14,201 --> 00:06:39,367\n那偏遠學校大致可分為這個我要跟你了解一下偏遠地區的教育發展條例偏遠學校大致可分為偏遠、特偏、極偏以及非三非四的學校依教育部最新的統計依偏遠學校來說有832所特偏學校有197所極偏學校130所而偏遠地區學校教育發展條例當初預期要解決的是\n\n19\n00:06:40,387 --> 00:06:57,538\n解決環境交通不利、B解決失智不穩、C解決文化刺激不足、D解決學生學習不足、E解決經費不足。上路了6年半,請問這些到底改善了什麼?另外,偏遠究竟還缺什麼?\n\n20\n00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:18,354\n部長當初這個立法偏鄉的條例最主要的目的就是要解決老師的問題政府挹注能夠加津貼提升偏鄉教師福利並在正式的部分能夠讓偏鄉老師留下來但是不用去適應這個年年換新老師請問專聘教師目前辦理的狀況為何?\n\n21\n00:07:20,075 --> 00:07:39,353\n我跟委員報告專聘教師是當時考慮到偏鄉真的有時候招聘老師要招好多次所以也幫他建立起這個制度來目前剛才因為委員有關心我有報告過這三年我們強力的要求縣市不可以保留過多的員額\n\n22\n00:07:40,214 --> 00:07:45,018\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期\n\n23\n00:08:03,752 --> 00:08:17,259\n縣市在徵聘的時候這個就變成是主軸有具有教師證符合教師資格也一定會以正式專任老師職缺為優先所以確實在專聘老師這幾年剛才召委指教清醒並不理想\n\n24\n00:08:18,030 --> 00:08:41,307\n對所以我要跟你講專聘這兩學年為零啦111跟112但是正式教師全國9500個耶當然啦但是這是你發起的一個計畫我還是要跟你講檢討這個計畫委員我說他是一個輔助但不是一個主軸啦主軸一定是正式職缺聘專任教師來擔任我們這些偏鄉地區孩子的老師這才是正犯\n\n25\n00:08:41,727 --> 00:09:06,404\n好那當然我還是要另外再討論針對這些偏遠的學校政府的補助偏遠地區國中小教學設備及設施經費每三年最高核定200萬部長三年200萬平均一年是70萬這三年200萬對偏鄉學校有什麼改善各校花在這些設備有什麼效果嗎我要坦白的講這一年70萬連修廁所都不夠是不是應該要提高比如兩年200萬\n\n26\n00:09:08,445 --> 00:09:15,610\n那個部分是額外不在我們專案裡面。我跟你講報告像我們用63億去改善中央偏鄉的午餐的問題那是63億那不是這三年兩百萬像我們一生一平板那個錢也不是用這個錢啦那改善廁所也不是用這個錢\n\n27\n00:09:27,136 --> 00:09:55,184\n當然當然我是舉例對啦那個那個反而是給他說都沒有辦法的但是你學校最需要的你用這個錢委員了解那個意思嗎是大錢還是我們用專案去幫忙就是專案去做的這一筆錢我知道廁所廁所的錢實質有補助的錢嗎那個一千多所學校用了63億但我就是還是要再跟你多要一點作為民意代表我們看到就希望說委員的心意啦那也希望您夠多留下一些禮物讓我們這些偏遠地區的能夠有更多的資源好嗎好了解\n\n28\n00:09:57,753 --> 00:09:58,609\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2874\t26149\t謝謝主席,主席幫我邀請部長,謝謝。好,部長謝謝。好,非常感謝昭偉今天安排這個偏遠地區的學校教育發展條例。我想不只是高雄還有台中還有各縣市其實都有偏鄉的一些問題。那我想先請問一下今天很高興能夠再次看到部長。那部長請問一下那個新船二手書店你有聽過嗎?\n27594\t43119\t新水的新、傳遞的傳、新船二手薯片。我沒那麼了解,請委員指教。好,沒關係沒關係。就是前台北世貿二館的館長黃金山,擁有破百萬的年薪,卻在2014年提早退休選擇回到了故鄉。\n44079\t69306\t嘉義的民雄花光了所有的積蓄開了這一間新船二手書店最主要的一個目的就是故鄉沒有書店但其實呢他還有一個最重要的一個目的就是協助偏鄉弱勢學童的一個客服目前新船的已經有四個分部那今天早上的中正大學的胡為平老師投書媒體偏鄉弱勢客服永續的路崎嶇這篇你有看過嗎\n73105\t94173\t很不好意思,我還沒...沒關係沒關係,跟你互相討論那中正大學怎麼會突然片面的一個決定下學期大幅的縮減與新船的合作這個課程與時數呢,服務的時數並已經暫且關閉所有的溝通管道這個部分你有了解嗎?\n95111\t110443\t教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期\n110763\t129615\t整個嘉義縣所有的新船分部無法運作200名弱勢孩童會沒有人做客服請問針對這200名的這個弱勢學童有什麼備案如果現在你不知道我提出來了那你有沒有想過如果面對我說的沒有任何的一個偏差\n130916\t145213\t因為這畢竟是我們自己的國立大學我有請署長可能會同高教師瞭解一下因為這個方案可能應該是學校原來可能主動的跟剛才講的新傳的合作\n145794\t147214\t大學社會責任USR計畫有不少學校會去選擇跟地方學生弱勢孩子的輔助學習\n169682\t185878\t這就是我們的政策之一我們樂見合作當然有一些理念可能不同還是資源不足我們講清楚說明白但是我們更重視的是這200多名的孩童有沒有備案去做克服我們先了解一下學校到底發生了什麼事如果能夠延續那對學校對學生都好啦我們先了解一下因為我對這個狀況還沒有掌握\n191684\t193946\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會\n206938\t235419\t放學後沒有人做一個輔導那缺乏成就感跟自信心不但無法靠著教育在做翻轉的一個人生我想這個部分我們教育部才會有這個夜光天使點燈計畫這個我又要帶到我們的夜光天使點燈計畫但是弱勢族群不只是在偏遠地區偏鄉在都會中呢我想我們朝偉也很關心高雄啊或者是我們台中都會有所謂的弱勢族群也不是少數窩居在整個都市城市的一個角落而被忽略到\n235879\t260434\t那我之前跟你特別拜託齁那也非常感謝有做相繼的一個追蹤但是我還是要問一下葉光天使點燈專案計畫台中市目前延伸到寒暑假國中由台中市辦目前規劃進度我請市長跟你報告市長跟我講謝謝委員齁因為已經有幾個區已經有一些目標的國中我們也實際做媒合啦一直在關心這件事情但是媒合的結果到底怎麼樣上限日具體時間\n261997\t268481\t中西東南區總共有四所學校,三所國中以及一個樂業國小,加起來四個學校已經有這個事辦的意願。目前就是照委員講的,\n284431\t308174\t寒台暫未到暑假來開始,所以我們預期在113學年8月份給學校一個規劃的時間,地方政府會報上來,有些細節再跟委員報告。如果7月份也要報的話,可能要一個期前的示範計畫,這個台中市已經報我們的這個計畫中,有一些細節我們定期跟委員回報。最近的一次是下禮拜二,再跟您辦公室做報告,謝謝。\n308755\t325292\t因為我中區沒有國中啦,西區都是以這個升學為導向啦,沒有需求,那沒關係我們尊重嘛那這兩區沒有提出需求,因為我們昭緯也很關心高雄啦,也跟我特別交代是不是高雄這部分的事辦計畫呢,也可以跟昭緯做一個接洽我們在高雄這個也要特別的關注我們課後輔導的一個問題\n330357\t344605\t這個可以嗎?應該是沒有問題,我們先把台中這四項做了一個完整的處理。部長您要離去了,但是您的名會留在這裡,歷史會記錄你這一刻,再給我們答應一下可以嗎?謝謝,關鍵,沒有啦,這個我覺得,我一向很務實啦,這個我覺得有必要,但是怎麼推才會順利,所以您當時提我跟署長這邊,我們就說就積極的進行,如果說趙薇這邊對我們高雄等等也有這樣,\n358533\t359273\t發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。\n374201\t399367\t那偏遠學校大致可分為這個我要跟你了解一下偏遠地區的教育發展條例偏遠學校大致可分為偏遠、特偏、極偏以及非三非四的學校依教育部最新的統計依偏遠學校來說有832所特偏學校有197所極偏學校130所而偏遠地區學校教育發展條例當初預期要解決的是\n400387\t417538\t解決環境交通不利、B解決失智不穩、C解決文化刺激不足、D解決學生學習不足、E解決經費不足。上路了6年半,請問這些到底改善了什麼?另外,偏遠究竟還缺什麼?\n418399\t438354\t部長當初這個立法偏鄉的條例最主要的目的就是要解決老師的問題政府挹注能夠加津貼提升偏鄉教師福利並在正式的部分能夠讓偏鄉老師留下來但是不用去適應這個年年換新老師請問專聘教師目前辦理的狀況為何?\n440075\t459353\t我跟委員報告專聘教師是當時考慮到偏鄉真的有時候招聘老師要招好多次所以也幫他建立起這個制度來目前剛才因為委員有關心我有報告過這三年我們強力的要求縣市不可以保留過多的員額\n460214\t465018\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期\n483752\t497259\t縣市在徵聘的時候這個就變成是主軸有具有教師證符合教師資格也一定會以正式專任老師職缺為優先所以確實在專聘老師這幾年剛才召委指教清醒並不理想\n498030\t521307\t對 所以我要跟你講專聘這兩學年為零啦111跟112但是正式教師全國9500個耶當然啦 但是這是你發起的一個計畫我還是要跟你講檢討這個計畫委員 我說他是一個輔助但不是一個主軸啦主軸一定是正式職缺聘專任教師來擔任我們這些偏鄉地區孩子的老師 這才是正犯\n521727\t546404\t好 那當然我還是要另外再討論針對這些偏遠的學校政府的補助偏遠地區國中小教學設備及設施經費每三年最高核定200萬部長三年200萬平均一年是70萬這三年200萬對偏鄉學校有什麼改善各校花在這些設備有什麼效果嗎我要坦白的講這一年70萬連修廁所都不夠是不是應該要提高比如兩年200萬\n548445\t555610\t那個部分是額外不在我們專案裡面。我跟你講報告像我們用63億去改善中央偏鄉的午餐的問題那是63億那不是這三年兩百萬像我們一生一平板那個錢也不是用這個錢啦那改善廁所也不是用這個錢\n567136\t595184\t當然當然我是舉例對啦那個那個反而是給他說都沒有辦法的但是你學校最需要的你用這個錢委員了解那個意思嗎是大錢還是我們用專案去幫忙就是專案去做的這一筆錢我知道廁所廁所的錢實質有補助的錢嗎那個一千多所學校用了63億但我就是還是要再跟你多要一點作為民意代表我們看到就希望說委員的心意啦那也希望您夠多留下一些禮物讓我們這些偏遠地區的能夠有更多的資源好嗎好了解\n597753\t598609\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席\n","txt":"謝謝主席,主席幫我邀請部長,謝謝。好,部長謝謝。好,非常感謝昭偉今天安排這個偏遠地區的學校教育發展條例。我想不只是高雄還有台中還有各縣市其實都有偏鄉的一些問題。那我想先請問一下今天很高興能夠再次看到部長。那部長請問一下那個新船二手書店你有聽過嗎?\n新水的新、傳遞的傳、新船二手薯片。我沒那麼了解,請委員指教。好,沒關係沒關係。就是前台北世貿二館的館長黃金山,擁有破百萬的年薪,卻在2014年提早退休選擇回到了故鄉。\n嘉義的民雄花光了所有的積蓄開了這一間新船二手書店最主要的一個目的就是故鄉沒有書店但其實呢他還有一個最重要的一個目的就是協助偏鄉弱勢學童的一個客服目前新船的已經有四個分部那今天早上的中正大學的胡為平老師投書媒體偏鄉弱勢客服永續的路崎嶇這篇你有看過嗎\n很不好意思,我還沒...沒關係沒關係,跟你互相討論那中正大學怎麼會突然片面的一個決定下學期大幅的縮減與新船的合作這個課程與時數呢,服務的時數並已經暫且關閉所有的溝通管道這個部分你有了解嗎?\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期\n整個嘉義縣所有的新船分部無法運作200名弱勢孩童會沒有人做客服請問針對這200名的這個弱勢學童有什麼備案如果現在你不知道我提出來了那你有沒有想過如果面對我說的沒有任何的一個偏差\n因為這畢竟是我們自己的國立大學我有請署長可能會同高教師瞭解一下因為這個方案可能應該是學校原來可能主動的跟剛才講的新傳的合作\n大學社會責任USR計畫有不少學校會去選擇跟地方學生弱勢孩子的輔助學習\n這就是我們的政策之一我們樂見合作當然有一些理念可能不同還是資源不足我們講清楚說明白但是我們更重視的是這200多名的孩童有沒有備案去做克服我們先了解一下學校到底發生了什麼事如果能夠延續那對學校對學生都好啦我們先了解一下因為我對這個狀況還沒有掌握\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會\n放學後沒有人做一個輔導那缺乏成就感跟自信心不但無法靠著教育在做翻轉的一個人生我想這個部分我們教育部才會有這個夜光天使點燈計畫這個我又要帶到我們的夜光天使點燈計畫但是弱勢族群不只是在偏遠地區偏鄉在都會中呢我想我們朝偉也很關心高雄啊或者是我們台中都會有所謂的弱勢族群也不是少數窩居在整個都市城市的一個角落而被忽略到\n那我之前跟你特別拜託齁那也非常感謝有做相繼的一個追蹤但是我還是要問一下葉光天使點燈專案計畫台中市目前延伸到寒暑假國中由台中市辦目前規劃進度我請市長跟你報告市長跟我講謝謝委員齁因為已經有幾個區已經有一些目標的國中我們也實際做媒合啦一直在關心這件事情但是媒合的結果到底怎麼樣上限日具體時間\n中西東南區總共有四所學校,三所國中以及一個樂業國小,加起來四個學校已經有這個事辦的意願。目前就是照委員講的,\n寒台暫未到暑假來開始,所以我們預期在113學年8月份給學校一個規劃的時間,地方政府會報上來,有些細節再跟委員報告。如果7月份也要報的話,可能要一個期前的示範計畫,這個台中市已經報我們的這個計畫中,有一些細節我們定期跟委員回報。最近的一次是下禮拜二,再跟您辦公室做報告,謝謝。\n因為我中區沒有國中啦,西區都是以這個升學為導向啦,沒有需求,那沒關係我們尊重嘛那這兩區沒有提出需求,因為我們昭緯也很關心高雄啦,也跟我特別交代是不是高雄這部分的事辦計畫呢,也可以跟昭緯做一個接洽我們在高雄這個也要特別的關注我們課後輔導的一個問題\n這個可以嗎?應該是沒有問題,我們先把台中這四項做了一個完整的處理。部長您要離去了,但是您的名會留在這裡,歷史會記錄你這一刻,再給我們答應一下可以嗎?謝謝,關鍵,沒有啦,這個我覺得,我一向很務實啦,這個我覺得有必要,但是怎麼推才會順利,所以您當時提我跟署長這邊,我們就說就積極的進行,如果說趙薇這邊對我們高雄等等也有這樣,\n發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。\n那偏遠學校大致可分為這個我要跟你了解一下偏遠地區的教育發展條例偏遠學校大致可分為偏遠、特偏、極偏以及非三非四的學校依教育部最新的統計依偏遠學校來說有832所特偏學校有197所極偏學校130所而偏遠地區學校教育發展條例當初預期要解決的是\n解決環境交通不利、B解決失智不穩、C解決文化刺激不足、D解決學生學習不足、E解決經費不足。上路了6年半,請問這些到底改善了什麼?另外,偏遠究竟還缺什麼?\n部長當初這個立法偏鄉的條例最主要的目的就是要解決老師的問題政府挹注能夠加津貼提升偏鄉教師福利並在正式的部分能夠讓偏鄉老師留下來但是不用去適應這個年年換新老師請問專聘教師目前辦理的狀況為何?\n我跟委員報告專聘教師是當時考慮到偏鄉真的有時候招聘老師要招好多次所以也幫他建立起這個制度來目前剛才因為委員有關心我有報告過這三年我們強力的要求縣市不可以保留過多的員額\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期教育及文化委員會第11屆第12會期\n縣市在徵聘的時候這個就變成是主軸有具有教師證符合教師資格也一定會以正式專任老師職缺為優先所以確實在專聘老師這幾年剛才召委指教清醒並不理想\n對 所以我要跟你講專聘這兩學年為零啦111跟112但是正式教師全國9500個耶當然啦 但是這是你發起的一個計畫我還是要跟你講檢討這個計畫委員 我說他是一個輔助但不是一個主軸啦主軸一定是正式職缺聘專任教師來擔任我們這些偏鄉地區孩子的老師 這才是正犯\n好 那當然我還是要另外再討論針對這些偏遠的學校政府的補助偏遠地區國中小教學設備及設施經費每三年最高核定200萬部長三年200萬平均一年是70萬這三年200萬對偏鄉學校有什麼改善各校花在這些設備有什麼效果嗎我要坦白的講這一年70萬連修廁所都不夠是不是應該要提高比如兩年200萬\n那個部分是額外不在我們專案裡面。我跟你講報告像我們用63億去改善中央偏鄉的午餐的問題那是63億那不是這三年兩百萬像我們一生一平板那個錢也不是用這個錢啦那改善廁所也不是用這個錢\n當然當然我是舉例對啦那個那個反而是給他說都沒有辦法的但是你學校最需要的你用這個錢委員了解那個意思嗎是大錢還是我們用專案去幫忙就是專案去做的這一筆錢我知道廁所廁所的錢實質有補助的錢嗎那個一千多所學校用了63億但我就是還是要再跟你多要一點作為民意代表我們看到就希望說委員的心意啦那也希望您夠多留下一些禮物讓我們這些偏遠地區的能夠有更多的資源好嗎好了解\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.874 --> 00:26.149\n謝謝主席,主席幫我邀請部長,謝謝。好,部長謝謝。好,非常感謝昭偉今天安排這個偏遠地區的學校教育發展條例。我想不只是高雄還有台中還有各縣市其實都有偏鄉的一些問題。那我想先請問一下今天很高興能夠再次看到部長。那部長請問一下那個新船二手書店你有聽過嗎?\n\n00:27.594 --> 00:43.119\n新水的新、傳遞的傳、新船二手薯片。我沒那麼了解,請委員指教。好,沒關係沒關係。就是前台北世貿二館的館長黃金山,擁有破百萬的年薪,卻在2014年提早退休選擇回到了故鄉。\n\n00:44.079 --> 01:09.306\n嘉義的民雄花光了所有的積蓄開了這一間新船二手書店最主要的一個目的就是故鄉沒有書店但其實呢他還有一個最重要的一個目的就是協助偏鄉弱勢學童的一個客服目前新船的已經有四個分部那今天早上的中正大學的胡為平老師投書媒體偏鄉弱勢客服永續的路崎嶇這篇你有看過嗎\n\n01:13.105 --> 01:34.173\n很不好意思,我還沒...沒關係沒關係,跟你互相討論那中正大學怎麼會突然片面的一個決定下學期大幅的縮減與新船的合作這個課程與時數呢,服務的時數並已經暫且關閉所有的溝通管道這個部分你有了解嗎?\n\n01:35.111 --> 01:50.443\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第2會期\n\n01:50.763 --> 02:09.615\n整個嘉義縣所有的新船分部無法運作200名弱勢孩童會沒有人做客服請問針對這200名的這個弱勢學童有什麼備案如果現在你不知道我提出來了那你有沒有想過如果面對我說的沒有任何的一個偏差\n\n02:10.916 --> 02:25.213\n因為這畢竟是我們自己的國立大學我有請署長可能會同高教師瞭解一下因為這個方案可能應該是學校原來可能主動的跟剛才講的新傳的合作\n\n02:25.794 --> 02:27.214\n大學社會責任USR計畫有不少學校會去選擇跟地方學生弱勢孩子的輔助學習\n\n02:49.682 --> 03:05.878\n這就是我們的政策之一我們樂見合作當然有一些理念可能不同還是資源不足我們講清楚說明白但是我們更重視的是這200多名的孩童有沒有備案去做克服我們先了解一下學校到底發生了什麼事如果能夠延續那對學校對學生都好啦我們先了解一下因為我對這個狀況還沒有掌握\n\n03:11.684 --> 03:13.946\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會\n\n03:26.938 --> 03:55.419\n放學後沒有人做一個輔導那缺乏成就感跟自信心不但無法靠著教育在做翻轉的一個人生我想這個部分我們教育部才會有這個夜光天使點燈計畫這個我又要帶到我們的夜光天使點燈計畫但是弱勢族群不只是在偏遠地區偏鄉在都會中呢我想我們朝偉也很關心高雄啊或者是我們台中都會有所謂的弱勢族群也不是少數窩居在整個都市城市的一個角落而被忽略到\n\n03:55.879 --> 04:20.434\n那我之前跟你特別拜託齁那也非常感謝有做相繼的一個追蹤但是我還是要問一下葉光天使點燈專案計畫台中市目前延伸到寒暑假國中由台中市辦目前規劃進度我請市長跟你報告市長跟我講謝謝委員齁因為已經有幾個區已經有一些目標的國中我們也實際做媒合啦一直在關心這件事情但是媒合的結果到底怎麼樣上限日具體時間\n\n04:21.997 --> 04:28.481\n中西東南區總共有四所學校,三所國中以及一個樂業國小,加起來四個學校已經有這個事辦的意願。目前就是照委員講的,\n\n04:44.431 --> 05:08.174\n寒台暫未到暑假來開始,所以我們預期在113學年8月份給學校一個規劃的時間,地方政府會報上來,有些細節再跟委員報告。如果7月份也要報的話,可能要一個期前的示範計畫,這個台中市已經報我們的這個計畫中,有一些細節我們定期跟委員回報。最近的一次是下禮拜二,再跟您辦公室做報告,謝謝。\n\n05:08.755 --> 05:25.292\n因為我中區沒有國中啦,西區都是以這個升學為導向啦,沒有需求,那沒關係我們尊重嘛那這兩區沒有提出需求,因為我們昭緯也很關心高雄啦,也跟我特別交代是不是高雄這部分的事辦計畫呢,也可以跟昭緯做一個接洽我們在高雄這個也要特別的關注我們課後輔導的一個問題\n\n05:30.357 --> 05:44.605\n這個可以嗎?應該是沒有問題,我們先把台中這四項做了一個完整的處理。部長您要離去了,但是您的名會留在這裡,歷史會記錄你這一刻,再給我們答應一下可以嗎?謝謝,關鍵,沒有啦,這個我覺得,我一向很務實啦,這個我覺得有必要,但是怎麼推才會順利,所以您當時提我跟署長這邊,我們就說就積極的進行,如果說趙薇這邊對我們高雄等等也有這樣,\n\n05:58.533 --> 05:59.273\n發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。\n\n06:14.201 --> 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所以我要跟你講專聘這兩學年為零啦111跟112但是正式教師全國9500個耶當然啦 但是這是你發起的一個計畫我還是要跟你講檢討這個計畫委員 我說他是一個輔助但不是一個主軸啦主軸一定是正式職缺聘專任教師來擔任我們這些偏鄉地區孩子的老師 這才是正犯"},{"start":521.727,"end":546.404,"text":"好 那當然我還是要另外再討論針對這些偏遠的學校政府的補助偏遠地區國中小教學設備及設施經費每三年最高核定200萬部長三年200萬平均一年是70萬這三年200萬對偏鄉學校有什麼改善各校花在這些設備有什麼效果嗎我要坦白的講這一年70萬連修廁所都不夠是不是應該要提高比如兩年200萬"},{"start":548.445,"end":555.61,"text":"那個部分是額外不在我們專案裡面。我跟你講報告像我們用63億去改善中央偏鄉的午餐的問題那是63億那不是這三年兩百萬像我們一生一平板那個錢也不是用這個錢啦那改善廁所也不是用這個錢"},{"start":567.136,"end":595.184,"text":"當然當然我是舉例對啦那個那個反而是給他說都沒有辦法的但是你學校最需要的你用這個錢委員了解那個意思嗎是大錢還是我們用專案去幫忙就是專案去做的這一筆錢我知道廁所廁所的錢實質有補助的錢嗎那個一千多所學校用了63億但我就是還是要再跟你多要一點作為民意代表我們看到就希望說委員的心意啦那也希望您夠多留下一些禮物讓我們這些偏遠地區的能夠有更多的資源好嗎好了解"},{"start":597.753,"end":598.609,"text":"教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席"}]}}}}