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--> 00:02:52,207\n就是不要說只要企業的企業主有幫員工年輕人不管是24歲以下或者是45歲以上有幫他加薪就好不要再讓他抵稅的部分的那個額度能再降低我認為這稅負只有一點點可是讓這個不管是鼓勵企業主或鼓勵員工這部分是不是部長可以來考慮一下\n\n8\n00:03:11,266 --> 00:03:38,263\nadequate公司之外再多加薪沒錯沒錯我們都希望說大家多加薪是不是說不要這一塊如果基本公司有調高的這一部分喔是不是不要讓這個抵稅的部分抵稅的金額降低啊好那這個是我覺得是一個利益良善大家都希望大家可以比高最低公司也調高企業主也調高薪資大家來比調高然後不管如何調高都可以抵稅請部長三思啦好不好好我們再討論是是\n\n9\n00:03:40,114 --> 00:03:55,030\n好,那謝謝部長。那這邊我也要請教一個大家比較特別的,當然台灣都在推廣運動啦,那這我不知道部長可不可以回答。尤其就在我們台灣常常這個幫企業減稅的部分,常常給企業穿小鞋。在運動發展條例裡面有一個規定是1500萬以上。\n\n10\n00:03:56,970 --> 00:04:24,090\n如果捐贈到1500萬以上捐贈的企業可以抵150%的稅負在這裡面也有一個讓企業穿小鞋的部分就是說在抵稅超過1500萬以上的部分抵稅的這個金額需要把它放在這個所得基本稅額裡面來去做一個試算如果超過的部分還要補繳12%的稅所以讓這些大型企業覺得說那我這樣你讓我口上說讓我抵這個20%\n\n11\n00:04:25,791 --> 00:04:42,245\n可是事實上在基本所得稅額裡面又說讓我要補繳12%的稅只能抵8%所以我認為說很多政府利益良善的部分不要讓企業穿小鞋而且讓他們這個抵稅誘因下降是不是請部長回答還是你要請\n\n12\n00:04:43,145 --> 00:04:57,522\n對,是不是請財政部回答?這個放在申報書其他的部分啦,很奇怪。報告委員,基本上是這樣子,因為我們現在就是有那個所謂最低稅負制這個制度主要就是希望就是說企業或個人不要因為過度享受太多的租稅優惠而\n\n13\n00:05:16,701 --> 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