{"id":152096,"url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/152096","video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/6f015fe8e6787db18208245da0eb0a390cbbe991ada1931c55be169921a0a717b71df2bc9b747a7b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"林倩綺","委員發言時間":"11:48:34 - 11:58:58","影片長度":"00:10:24","會議時間":"2024-05-02T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請教育部列席就「『偏遠地區學校教育發展條例』施行迄今之成效及檢討」進行專題報告，並備質詢。\n二、審查(一)委員柯志恩等18人擬具「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案」案。(二)委員魯明哲等24人擬具「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第十六條條文修正草案」案。(三)委員馬文君等17人擬具「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第十六條及第十九條條文修正草案」案。(四)委員盧縣一等20人擬具「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條、第十二條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。\n(僅進行詢答)【4月29日及5月2日二天一次會】）","date":"2024-05-02","meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第10次全體委員會議","term":11,"type":"委員會","sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":10,"committees":[22],"id":"委員會-11-1-22-10"},"duration":624,"end_time":"2024-05-02T11:58:58+08:00","start_time":"2024-05-02T11:48:34+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":776,"blocks":[["林委員倩綺：（11時48分）謝謝主席，請潘部長。"],["主席：請潘部長。"],["潘部長文忠：林委員好。"],["林委員倩綺：部長好。剛才有很多人祝福你，一開始我也祝福你。"],["潘部長文忠：謝謝委員。"],["林委員倩綺：雖然我們不知道後面還會有幾次，不過對於今天這個議題，很感謝能夠跟您在這邊直接討論，也謝謝召委把重點的偏遠地區學校教育發展條例做了一個總整理。就我們這幾年所做的檢討，本席先提出六個條文──第七條、第八條、第十一條、第十四條、第十七條、第十九條，我在這邊先做一個總整理，講完之後，再請部裡面提供一些數據給我。"],["潘部長文忠：好。"],["林委員倩綺：第七條有關專任教師的制度，就我所拿到的相關資料來看，感覺臺灣的專任教師近乎到零，通常都不是由主管機關來招考，都是由學校自行招考，感覺地方是不是推不動，還是不買單？我不知道是不是這個情形；但是由學校招考的話，可能也有他們的一些限制。","其次是第七條、第八條，提升代理教師待遇的部分，離島以外的地方主管機關很少公開甄選進用代理教師，學校可以聘用無證的代理教師，問題是無證的代理教師也沒辦法進行公費的師培，聘任也不能超過兩次，看起來還真的是有一點麻煩跟問題。本席不知道這份整理對不對，會後部裡面也可以針對這部分提供相關的資訊跟數據。","有關第十一條的部分，因為校長沒有權限，地方也沒有資源，這一條的說明是我們可以徵聘師資，問題是偏鄉除了教育的問題，還牽扯到家庭、社區、族群。早上也有委員提到學校當然是一個社區中心，但是這裡面其實會牽扯到社工，還有地方創生專長的人，就會變成學校跟家庭的一個嫁接；但因為師資的缺乏，學校也沒辦法再去把這兩組人做一個嫁接，所以感覺校長好像沒這個權限，有可用的人也無法用。","有關第十四條行政減量的問題，早上有很多委員提到偏鄉教師大量的行政作業，其實也是一個讓大家沒辦法久留很大的原因，甚至要去的時候，可能都沒辦法應對，所以這也是一個麻煩。不過已經有很多委員提起，部裡面早上也做了一些回應。","另外，第十七條有關混齡教學的部分，我找到的資料是沒有，目前好像很少有學校這樣做，師培體系好像也沒有混齡教師的相關訓練，部裡面是不是也可以做一個回應？","最後是第十九條鼓勵成立區域教育資源中心，本席發現全國好像還有三分之一的縣市沒有設立，偏遠國中、小最多的幾個縣市，如雲林、南投、屏東，都沒有辦法設立。以上幾個部分是我做的盤點，我看教育部對很多東西都做了數據，部長這邊可以的話，就把相關的資料跟數據提供給我。","另外要針對兩個部分來跟部長討論。第一個是流浪教師遍布全國，但是偏鄉卻沒有老師可以來教，不知道部裡面有沒有檢討過這個問題。據本席瞭解21萬人有教師證，卻有9萬人沒有職缺，這就是流浪教師；可是偏鄉非都市地區又找不到老師，不知道部裡面有沒有發現這樣一個問題？有沒有什麼處理的方式？因為本席只剩下一分多鐘的發言時間，我就借用洪孟楷委員的話，請部長不要太費心，然後就精準的、很快的回應，可以嗎？"],["潘部長文忠：委員前面所提到的那六個議題，招考這件事情一定是主管機關來辦理，包含學校或地方政府，大概比較不適合全國辦一次甄試。我想依規定跟用人權，這樣才比較合適，除非縣市委託中央辦理，但是一般比較不會這麼做。"],["林委員倩綺：這個可能要檢討跟處理的是為什麼有這麼大的落差，可以瞭解一下啦！我有時候會覺得他們很無力。"],["潘部長文忠：這個當然可以。委員剛才提到行政減量……"],["林委員倩綺：這個部分沒關係，部裡面再提供給我。"],["潘部長文忠：好，因為這個跟委員關心的是非常關鍵，這個確實是地方老師、地方學校非常沉重的負擔，所以，我也請署裡就這方面提出相關的措施，還有區域資源中心以增置人力及任務做更明確化，讓這樣的中心可以有效的協助非常小型的學校，不要每個學校都做同樣的事，這個……"],["林委員倩綺：行政減量的問題，早上很多委員提到，我相信你這邊應該……"],["潘部長文忠：對，我想這個在新的學年度應該能夠對偏鄉學校有一個具體的支持……"],["林委員倩綺：對，就不用怕惡性循環。"],["潘部長文忠：對，然後委員剛剛提到流浪教師或偏遠地區缺乏師資的這個部分，過往縣市跟學校保留太多的缺額，偏鄉甚至有三、四成保留，所以最近這三年，教育部逐一盤點，各縣市跟學校也強力的要求，因為編制準則是以百分之八為原則，卻超過這麼多，所以這三年，幾乎每年都有將近五千個缺額釋放出來考試，這一方面讓具備教師證資格的老師有機會來任職，我們也請縣市做一件事，你開的缺一定不要忘記偏鄉學校的缺要開放出來，這樣你甄選的人才能到那邊；你不開缺，如果自由選擇，當然都會選擇到交通比較方便的都會區等等，所以這幾個都是這三年非常明確的配套措施。"],["林委員倩綺：好的，現在就是執行上的問題，所以就請確切執行。早上好像陳委員有提到，有經驗的老師其實都很難留在原鄉；對於久任的鼓勵，剛才也有幾位委員提到，本席這邊是不是可以建議部裡面，針對專任教師的制度，確實是有一點狀況跟困難，久任的部分看起來好像是一種鼓勵跟獎勵，但重點是除了獎金或鼓勵以外，我們是不是先用誘因，因為久任需要大家待好久，才會有你講的錢；問題是你講的這個錢去除以每一個月，每個月才730塊，你們再算算看，我不知道有沒有算錯，但如果只有730塊，而且要八年以後才能領到，現在應該還沒有人領到吧？"],["潘部長文忠：第一批114年可以領到。"],["林委員倩綺：如果是114年，我不知道你們有沒有盤點過，明年可以領到的人有多少？"],["潘部長文忠：有8,500個。"],["林委員倩綺：這部分我們明年再來檢視一下。所以八年、然後十一年，跟有經驗的教師能不能留下來，我覺得就是有很大的原因，所以本席很直接提出來，針對這個部分，部裡面可不可以將誘因加在鼓勵跟獎金上面，不要讓大家那麼久才能領到這個錢；再者就是獎金應該提高，不要讓大家覺得要熬這麼久，感覺是在跟人家交換、討價還價似的。所以，可否以誘因來取代等了很久的獎金。另外就是獎金要提高。還要再提醒一件很小的事，剛才有委員講到偏鄉雙語師資的匱乏，然後這還帶了一個問題，像藝術跟師培教師，到最後很多都會以雙語的條件來取人，所以部裡面可能要處理一下這件事情。最後，本席在3月5日問你們原住民族專班學生就業率、所學科系跟職場的相關性，其實在質詢之前，本席就要過，你們叫我們去勞動部找，我們已經去函但找不到，所以又來跟部裡面講，而你們每次都叫我們去找勞動部，問題是勞動部就找不到，你們就跟勞動部一起看要怎麼處理，總是要解決嘛！是不是我們就四年統統都要不到？你們數據既然那麼強，部長可以給我一個承諾嗎？要嘛就是教育部做；要不然你們就跟勞動部，最後給我一個結果。這個會期我一定要要到！主席已經站起來了，就是either yes or no，可以嗎？"],["潘部長文忠：我們跟勞動部再對焦一下，因為這個……"],["林委員倩綺：要有一個結果。"],["潘部長文忠：因為整個職場長期的統計……"],["林委員倩綺：好啦，謝謝啦！"],["潘部長文忠：我們要不要拜託他們對委員關心的這個對象能夠聚焦，不然就是一直重複做類似的事……"],["林委員倩綺：不是啦，就是給我一個數據結果，我才能進行下一步的瞭解，謝謝。"],["潘部長文忠：謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝林委員，謝謝部長。現在處理臨時提案。今天委員提出的臨時提案，共計兩案。請宣讀。","一、","案由：有鑑於教育部為因應校園霸凌事件之防範與處理，進行全盤檢討並修正「校園霸凌防治準則」；為能更防微杜漸、關注顧及各種跡象之可能發生，有別於明顯有感可見的歧視，有關無處不在的「微歧視（microaggression）」─意指表面上並未有明顯的攻擊意味，卻多表現在日常語言、肢體語言，或者其他環境中對特定對象（如少數族裔、有色人種、殘疾人、女性等）進行有意或者無意的輕視、怠慢、詆毀和侮辱等，應將其納入準則並列為反霸凌宣導、教育及輔導課程項目或定義說明入法。建請教育部、文化部、內政部及法務部進行有關微歧視定義、宣導與法令條文之研究評估，並於一個月內向立法院教育及文化委員會提出書面報告。","提案人：林倩綺　　鄭天財Sra 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00:00:28,844\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第13會期教育及文化委員會第14會期教育及文化委員會第14會\n\n2\n00:00:38,707 --> 00:00:38,907\n總整理\n\n3\n00:00:56,978 --> 00:01:15,271\n提供一些數據給我所以在第七條這個部分有關於專任教師的制度那我拿到的這個相關資料台灣的專任教師感覺好像近乎到零那通常都不是那個主管機關要招考然後都由學校來自行招考那感覺好像問題地方\n\n4\n00:01:16,112 --> 00:01:21,995\n提升代理教師的待遇,離島以外的地方主管機關很少公開徵選來禁用代理教師,學校是可以聘用無證的代理教師,但無證的代理教師也沒有辦法進行公費的施培。\n\n5\n00:01:45,606 --> 00:02:01,622\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會\n\n6\n00:02:08,309 --> 00:02:11,912\n教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。〈偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案〉\n\n7\n00:02:34,051 --> 00:02:51,563\n學校也沒有辦法再去把這兩組人做一個嫁接所以好像這個校長沒這個權限也感覺到有可用的人也無法用那第14條的這個部分行政減量其實早上也有很多人提到那很多委員這邊提到\n\n8\n00:02:53,525 --> 00:02:56,789\n教育部列席及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席及文化委員會第2會期教育部列席及文化委員會\n\n9\n00:03:10,686 --> 00:03:35,375\n十七條有混零教學的這個部分我那邊找的資料是沒有就是目前好像很少這樣子的這個很少有學校這樣子做那好像這個施培體系也沒有混零教師的一個相關訓練那布裡面這邊是不是也可以做個回應那最後就是19條鼓勵成立區域教育的資源中心結果呢後來\n\n10\n00:03:36,915 --> 00:03:59,626\n發現全國目前好像還有三分之一的縣市沒有設立那偏遠的國中小最多的雲林、南投、屏東都沒有辦法設立這幾個部分我看教育部其實很多東西都做了數據這是我做的盤點所以部長這邊如果可以的話就把相關的資料跟數據提供給我但是我今天可能先針對兩個部分跟您這邊做一個討論\n\n11\n00:04:02,347 --> 00:04:14,082\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第11個是有讓教師遍佈了全國但是偏鄉卻沒有老師可以來教那不知道部裡面這邊有沒有檢討一下這個問題我這邊的數據了解是21萬人有這個教師證可是9萬人沒有職缺\n\n12\n00:04:18,907 --> 00:04:42,186\n叫做流浪教師,可是偏鄉非都市地區又找不到老師,那這個部分不知道部裡面有沒有發現這樣一個問題,然後有沒有什麼處理的方式。不過我這邊因為只剩下一分多鐘,我就借用一下洪孟楷委員的話,部長請你就不要太費心,然後就精準的很快的回應這樣,可以嗎?\n\n13\n00:04:44,267 --> 00:04:50,409\n委員剛才所提到前面那六個議題因為招考這件事情一定是主管機關來辦理包含是學校或地方政府大概比較不適合全國辦一次這個爭試這個我想依規定跟用人權這才比較合適除非縣市委託中央辦但這個大概一般比較不會這麼做\n\n14\n00:05:08,575 --> 00:05:08,835\n檢討及處理事項,為何有這麼大的落差?\n\n15\n00:05:24,451 --> 00:05:31,976\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席就擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文\n\n16\n00:05:46,587 --> 00:05:51,573\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會\n\n17\n00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:24,299\n縣市跟學校保留太多的缺額甚至偏鄉有達到三、四成保留所以最近這三年教育部逐一的盤點各縣市跟學校也強力的要求因為偏自準則是到8%為原則超過這麼多所以從陸續這三年幾乎每年都有將近5000個缺額釋放出來考試\n\n18\n00:06:32,243 --> 00:06:56,197\n這個一方面是讓具備教師證資格的老師有機會來任職那我們也請縣市要做一件事你開的缺一定不要忘記偏鄉學校的缺要開放出來因為你開的缺你甄選的人你才能到那邊嘛你不開缺他通通如果自由選擇當然都選擇到比較都會交通方便啊各方面的所以這個幾個背道說是這三年有非常明確的這樣的一個措施\n\n19\n00:06:57,898 --> 00:07:00,300\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期\n\n20\n00:07:15,455 --> 00:07:35,667\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第13會\n\n21\n00:07:41,551 --> 00:07:43,932\n九任讓大家待了好久才會有你講的錢問題是你講的錢如果除以每個月的話每個月才730塊你們算算看我不知道我有沒有算錯如果只有730塊所以我要8年以後才能而且現在應該還沒有人領到吧14年會是第一\n\n22\n00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:30,343\n一、四年我們都還不知道現在到底我不知道你們有沒有盤點說現在在明年可以領到的人有多少有8500個那我們明年再來檢視一下所以8年然後11年跟這個有經驗的教師能不能留下來其實我覺得有很大的原因所以我這邊很直接的提出來就是針對這個部分部裡面可不可以以誘因加在鼓勵跟獎金上面\n\n23\n00:08:31,184 --> 00:08:48,635\n教育部列席就不要讓大家那麼久才能領到這個錢,然後再者是獎金應該要提高,不要讓大家說我要熬這麼久,感覺好像我們在跟人家這個交換,所以是不是可以以誘因來取代等了很久的獎金,然後第二個部分是獎金要提高。\n\n24\n00:08:50,135 --> 00:09:05,740\n提醒一下很巧的一件事剛才有老師講到偏鄉雙語失智卻匱乏這不僅還帶領了一個問題像藝術跟師培教師到最後很多都會以雙語的條件來娶人所以這個部裡面可能要處理一下這件事情\n\n25\n00:09:07,221 --> 00:09:10,383\n最後,本席在3月5日問原住民族專班學生就業率所學的科系與職場相關性。\n\n26\n00:09:30,177 --> 00:09:51,486\n教育部,你們那怎麼辦?那要不然你就跟勞動部一起看怎麼處理嘛。總要解決嘛。要不然我們就這樣子,可以四年通通都要不到耶。好嗎?既然你們數據那麼強的話,可以嗎?部長這邊可以給我一個承諾嗎?要嘛就是你們教育部做,要不然你們就看勞動部,到最後給我一個結果。這個會期我一定要到啊。\n\n27\n00:09:54,522 --> 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〈偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案〉\n154051\t171563\t學校也沒有辦法再去把這兩組人做一個嫁接所以好像這個校長沒這個權限也感覺到有可用的人也無法用那第14條的這個部分行政減量其實早上也有很多人提到那很多委員這邊提到\n173525\t176789\t教育部列席及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席及文化委員會第2會期教育部列席及文化委員會\n190686\t215375\t十七條有混零教學的這個部分我那邊找的資料是沒有就是目前好像很少這樣子的這個很少有學校這樣子做那好像這個施培體系也沒有混零教師的一個相關訓練那布裡面這邊是不是也可以做個回應那最後就是19條鼓勵成立區域教育的資源中心結果呢後來\n216915\t239626\t發現全國目前好像還有三分之一的縣市沒有設立那偏遠的國中小最多的雲林、南投、屏東都沒有辦法設立這幾個部分我看教育部其實很多東西都做了數據這是我做的盤點所以部長這邊如果可以的話就把相關的資料跟數據提供給我但是我今天可能先針對兩個部分跟您這邊做一個討論\n242347\t254082\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第11個是有讓教師遍佈了全國但是偏鄉卻沒有老師可以來教那不知道部裡面這邊有沒有檢討一下這個問題我這邊的數據了解是21萬人有這個教師證可是9萬人沒有職缺\n258907\t282186\t叫做流浪教師,可是偏鄉非都市地區又找不到老師,那這個部分不知道部裡面有沒有發現這樣一個問題,然後有沒有什麼處理的方式。不過我這邊因為只剩下一分多鐘,我就借用一下洪孟楷委員的話,部長請你就不要太費心,然後就精準的很快的回應這樣,可以嗎?\n284267\t290409\t委員剛才所提到前面那六個議題因為招考這件事情一定是主管機關來辦理包含是學校或地方政府大概比較不適合全國辦一次這個爭試這個我想依規定跟用人權這才比較合適除非縣市委託中央辦但這個大概一般比較不會這麼做\n308575\t308835\t檢討及處理事項,為何有這麼大的落差?\n324451\t331976\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席就擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文\n346587\t351573\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會\n367450\t384299\t縣市跟學校保留太多的缺額甚至偏鄉有達到三、四成保留所以最近這三年教育部逐一的盤點各縣市跟學校也強力的要求因為偏自準則是到8%為原則超過這麼多所以從陸續這三年幾乎每年都有將近5000個缺額釋放出來考試\n392243\t416197\t這個一方面是讓具備教師證資格的老師有機會來任職那我們也請縣市要做一件事你開的缺一定不要忘記偏鄉學校的缺要開放出來因為你開的缺你甄選的人你才能到那邊嘛你不開缺他通通如果自由選擇當然都選擇到比較都會交通方便啊各方面的所以這個幾個背道說是這三年有非常明確的這樣的一個措施\n417898\t420300\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期\n435455\t455667\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第13會\n461551\t463932\t九任讓大家待了好久才會有你講的錢問題是你講的錢如果除以每個月的話每個月才730塊你們算算看我不知道我有沒有算錯如果只有730塊所以我要8年以後才能而且現在應該還沒有人領到吧14年會是第一\n482980\t510343\t一、四年我們都還不知道現在到底我不知道你們有沒有盤點說現在在明年可以領到的人有多少有8500個那我們明年再來檢視一下所以8年然後11年跟這個有經驗的教師能不能留下來其實我覺得有很大的原因所以我這邊很直接的提出來就是針對這個部分部裡面可不可以以誘因加在鼓勵跟獎金上面\n511184\t528635\t教育部列席就不要讓大家那麼久才能領到這個錢,然後再者是獎金應該要提高,不要讓大家說我要熬這麼久,感覺好像我們在跟人家這個交換,所以是不是可以以誘因來取代等了很久的獎金,然後第二個部分是獎金要提高。\n530135\t545740\t提醒一下很巧的一件事剛才有老師講到偏鄉雙語失智卻匱乏這不僅還帶領了一個問題像藝術跟師培教師到最後很多都會以雙語的條件來娶人所以這個部裡面可能要處理一下這件事情\n547221\t550383\t最後,本席在3月5日問原住民族專班學生就業率所學的科系與職場相關性。\n570177\t591486\t教育部,你們那怎麼辦?那要不然你就跟勞動部一起看怎麼處理嘛。總要解決嘛。要不然我們就這樣子,可以四年通通都要不到耶。好嗎?既然你們數據那麼強的話,可以嗎?部長這邊可以給我一個承諾嗎?要嘛就是你們教育部做,要不然你們就看勞動部,到最後給我一個結果。這個會期我一定要到啊。\n594522\t621473\t主席已經站起來了,就是 either yes or no,可以嗎?委員我想我們跟勞動部再對焦一下,因為長期的整個職場的統計就在這個勞動單位,只是我們要不要請,拜託他們在有關委員關心的這個對象能夠聚焦,不然就是一直重複在做類似的事情。不是啦,就是給我一個數據的結果啦,這樣我才能夠進行下一步的了解,好嗎?謝謝。\n","txt":"教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第13會期教育及文化委員會第14會期教育及文化委員會第14會\n總整理\n提供一些數據給我所以在第七條這個部分有關於專任教師的制度那我拿到的這個相關資料台灣的專任教師感覺好像近乎到零那通常都不是那個主管機關要招考然後都由學校來自行招考那感覺好像問題地方\n提升代理教師的待遇,離島以外的地方主管機關很少公開徵選來禁用代理教師,學校是可以聘用無證的代理教師,但無證的代理教師也沒有辦法進行公費的施培。\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會\n教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。 〈偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案〉\n學校也沒有辦法再去把這兩組人做一個嫁接所以好像這個校長沒這個權限也感覺到有可用的人也無法用那第14條的這個部分行政減量其實早上也有很多人提到那很多委員這邊提到\n教育部列席及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席及文化委員會第2會期教育部列席及文化委員會\n十七條有混零教學的這個部分我那邊找的資料是沒有就是目前好像很少這樣子的這個很少有學校這樣子做那好像這個施培體系也沒有混零教師的一個相關訓練那布裡面這邊是不是也可以做個回應那最後就是19條鼓勵成立區域教育的資源中心結果呢後來\n發現全國目前好像還有三分之一的縣市沒有設立那偏遠的國中小最多的雲林、南投、屏東都沒有辦法設立這幾個部分我看教育部其實很多東西都做了數據這是我做的盤點所以部長這邊如果可以的話就把相關的資料跟數據提供給我但是我今天可能先針對兩個部分跟您這邊做一個討論\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第11個是有讓教師遍佈了全國但是偏鄉卻沒有老師可以來教那不知道部裡面這邊有沒有檢討一下這個問題我這邊的數據了解是21萬人有這個教師證可是9萬人沒有職缺\n叫做流浪教師,可是偏鄉非都市地區又找不到老師,那這個部分不知道部裡面有沒有發現這樣一個問題,然後有沒有什麼處理的方式。不過我這邊因為只剩下一分多鐘,我就借用一下洪孟楷委員的話,部長請你就不要太費心,然後就精準的很快的回應這樣,可以嗎?\n委員剛才所提到前面那六個議題因為招考這件事情一定是主管機關來辦理包含是學校或地方政府大概比較不適合全國辦一次這個爭試這個我想依規定跟用人權這才比較合適除非縣市委託中央辦但這個大概一般比較不會這麼做\n檢討及處理事項,為何有這麼大的落差?\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席就擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文修正草案案件事宜及文化委員會第18條條文\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會\n縣市跟學校保留太多的缺額甚至偏鄉有達到三、四成保留所以最近這三年教育部逐一的盤點各縣市跟學校也強力的要求因為偏自準則是到8%為原則超過這麼多所以從陸續這三年幾乎每年都有將近5000個缺額釋放出來考試\n這個一方面是讓具備教師證資格的老師有機會來任職那我們也請縣市要做一件事你開的缺一定不要忘記偏鄉學校的缺要開放出來因為你開的缺你甄選的人你才能到那邊嘛你不開缺他通通如果自由選擇當然都選擇到比較都會交通方便啊各方面的所以這個幾個背道說是這三年有非常明確的這樣的一個措施\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第13會\n九任讓大家待了好久才會有你講的錢問題是你講的錢如果除以每個月的話每個月才730塊你們算算看我不知道我有沒有算錯如果只有730塊所以我要8年以後才能而且現在應該還沒有人領到吧14年會是第一\n一、四年我們都還不知道現在到底我不知道你們有沒有盤點說現在在明年可以領到的人有多少有8500個那我們明年再來檢視一下所以8年然後11年跟這個有經驗的教師能不能留下來其實我覺得有很大的原因所以我這邊很直接的提出來就是針對這個部分部裡面可不可以以誘因加在鼓勵跟獎金上面\n教育部列席就不要讓大家那麼久才能領到這個錢,然後再者是獎金應該要提高,不要讓大家說我要熬這麼久,感覺好像我們在跟人家這個交換,所以是不是可以以誘因來取代等了很久的獎金,然後第二個部分是獎金要提高。\n提醒一下很巧的一件事剛才有老師講到偏鄉雙語失智卻匱乏這不僅還帶領了一個問題像藝術跟師培教師到最後很多都會以雙語的條件來娶人所以這個部裡面可能要處理一下這件事情\n最後,本席在3月5日問原住民族專班學生就業率所學的科系與職場相關性。\n教育部,你們那怎麼辦?那要不然你就跟勞動部一起看怎麼處理嘛。總要解決嘛。要不然我們就這樣子,可以四年通通都要不到耶。好嗎?既然你們數據那麼強的話,可以嗎?部長這邊可以給我一個承諾嗎?要嘛就是你們教育部做,要不然你們就看勞動部,到最後給我一個結果。這個會期我一定要到啊。\n主席已經站起來了,就是 either yes or no,可以嗎?委員我想我們跟勞動部再對焦一下,因為長期的整個職場的統計就在這個勞動單位,只是我們要不要請,拜託他們在有關委員關心的這個對象能夠聚焦,不然就是一直重複在做類似的事情。不是啦,就是給我一個數據的結果啦,這樣我才能夠進行下一步的了解,好嗎?謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.479 --> 00:28.844\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第13會期教育及文化委員會第14會期教育及文化委員會第14會\n\n00:38.707 --> 00:38.907\n總整理\n\n00:56.978 --> 01:15.271\n提供一些數據給我所以在第七條這個部分有關於專任教師的制度那我拿到的這個相關資料台灣的專任教師感覺好像近乎到零那通常都不是那個主管機關要招考然後都由學校來自行招考那感覺好像問題地方\n\n01:16.112 --> 01:21.995\n提升代理教師的待遇,離島以外的地方主管機關很少公開徵選來禁用代理教師,學校是可以聘用無證的代理教師,但無證的代理教師也沒有辦法進行公費的施培。\n\n01:45.606 --> 02:01.622\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會\n\n02:08.309 --> 02:11.912\n教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。〈偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案〉\n\n02:34.051 --> 02:51.563\n學校也沒有辦法再去把這兩組人做一個嫁接所以好像這個校長沒這個權限也感覺到有可用的人也無法用那第14條的這個部分行政減量其實早上也有很多人提到那很多委員這邊提到\n\n02:53.525 --> 02:56.789\n教育部列席及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育部列席及文化委員會第2會期教育部列席及文化委員會\n\n03:10.686 --> 03:35.375\n十七條有混零教學的這個部分我那邊找的資料是沒有就是目前好像很少這樣子的這個很少有學校這樣子做那好像這個施培體系也沒有混零教師的一個相關訓練那布裡面這邊是不是也可以做個回應那最後就是19條鼓勵成立區域教育的資源中心結果呢後來\n\n03:36.915 --> 03:59.626\n發現全國目前好像還有三分之一的縣市沒有設立那偏遠的國中小最多的雲林、南投、屏東都沒有辦法設立這幾個部分我看教育部其實很多東西都做了數據這是我做的盤點所以部長這邊如果可以的話就把相關的資料跟數據提供給我但是我今天可能先針對兩個部分跟您這邊做一個討論\n\n04:02.347 --> 04:14.082\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第11個是有讓教師遍佈了全國但是偏鄉卻沒有老師可以來教那不知道部裡面這邊有沒有檢討一下這個問題我這邊的數據了解是21萬人有這個教師證可是9萬人沒有職缺\n\n04:18.907 --> 04:42.186\n叫做流浪教師,可是偏鄉非都市地區又找不到老師,那這個部分不知道部裡面有沒有發現這樣一個問題,然後有沒有什麼處理的方式。不過我這邊因為只剩下一分多鐘,我就借用一下洪孟楷委員的話,部長請你就不要太費心,然後就精準的很快的回應這樣,可以嗎?\n\n04:44.267 --> 04:50.409\n委員剛才所提到前面那六個議題因為招考這件事情一定是主管機關來辦理包含是學校或地方政府大概比較不適合全國辦一次這個爭試這個我想依規定跟用人權這才比較合適除非縣市委託中央辦但這個大概一般比較不會這麼做\n\n05:08.575 --> 05:08.835\n檢討及處理事項,為何有這麼大的落差?\n\n05:24.451 --> 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