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--> 00:02:35,122\n對,所以...因為如果是...署裡面到目前為止也沒有把這個...因為如果是災損本來就有災損的處理的機制跟費用如果是老舊重建委員那就是另外一個必須要討論的啦部長這件案子確實是因為小選颱風造成了一個颱風的一個災損那所以屏東縣政府根據小英總統在現場的指示馬上就是請學校把文也做了也刊准到我們會\n\n8\n00:02:35,962 --> 00:02:47,126\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會\n\n9\n00:02:52,728 --> 00:03:10,199\n所以看到4月3號我們花蓮大地震之後教育部針對花蓮的學校在後重建提到馬上重寬重塑讓我們滿洲的鄉親很心酸啊一樣是地震一樣是災損卻有不一樣的處理標準請教部長難道屏東人不應該不會啦\n\n10\n00:03:12,180 --> 00:03:33,051\n對屏東的學校建設教育部給予非常多的支持,包含到現在你可以跟周縣長瞭解到,因為他的財政不是很理想。只是委員講到這個個案,我必須要跟委員報告說,我再瞭解他是因為災損還是因為老舊。這個比如像花蓮女中啊,其他中小學委員所及的這個,這是因為地震,所以立刻就啟動災損,包含相關的這個費用去做處置啦。\n\n11\n00:03:37,053 --> 00:04:03,175\n部長我想這個我們都有相關的媒體報道這都是小岩總統在現場當場交代的所以請教育部不要害小岩總統施行於明那因為針對我們的屏東的這個施肢因為我們有很多的偏鄉那其實很多的老師他對於所謂的一個行政負擔的比例過重常常有很多的怨言那這次我們的偏教條例上面看到所謂的一個\n\n12\n00:04:04,936 --> 00:04:12,061\n要用班級書來換取老師的原文而不是考量所謂一個教學科目跟行政的部分那這部分我們教育部怎麼來做調整\n\n13\n00:04:13,475 --> 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委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育\n85851\t106247\t教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第3會期教育部立法院第4會期教育部立法院第5會期教育部立法院第6會期教育部立法院第7會期教育部立法院第8會期教育部立法院第9會期教育部立法院第10會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第13會期教育部立法院第13會期教育部立法院第14會期教育部立法院第14會期\n116298\t127324\t委員我不曉得這個學校這個地方是因為老舊還是因為颱風會造成學校重建我是對這個比較沒有我說我需要進一步了解是這個\n128528\t155122\t對,所以...因為如果是...署裡面到目前為止也沒有把這個...因為如果是災損本來就有災損的處理的機制跟費用如果是老舊重建委員那就是另外一個必須要討論的啦部長這件案子確實是因為小選颱風造成了一個颱風的一個災損那所以屏東縣政府根據小英總統在現場的指示馬上就是請學校把文也做了也刊准到我們會\n155962\t167126\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會\n172728\t190199\t所以看到4月3號我們花蓮大地震之後教育部針對花蓮的學校在後重建提到馬上重寬重塑讓我們滿洲的鄉親很心酸啊一樣是地震一樣是災損卻有不一樣的處理標準請教部長難道屏東人不應該不會啦\n192180\t213051\t對屏東的學校建設教育部給予非常多的支持,包含到現在你可以跟周縣長瞭解到,因為他的財政不是很理想。只是委員講到這個個案,我必須要跟委員報告說,我再瞭解他是因為災損還是因為老舊。這個比如像花蓮女中啊,其他中小學委員所及的這個,這是因為地震,所以立刻就啟動災損,包含相關的這個費用去做處置啦。\n217053\t243175\t部長我想這個我們都有相關的媒體報道這都是小岩總統在現場當場交代的所以請教育部不要害小岩總統施行於明那因為針對我們的屏東的這個施肢因為我們有很多的偏鄉那其實很多的老師他對於所謂的一個行政負擔的比例過重常常有很多的怨言那這次我們的偏教條例上面看到所謂的一個\n244936\t252061\t要用班級書來換取老師的原文而不是考量所謂一個教學科目跟行政的部分那這部分我們教育部怎麼來做調整\n253475\t270486\t委員所提到的有關師資的這一部分確實目前我們都希望學校盡量的把這個缺有開放出來那這幾年有真的增補了很多那對於在這裡面的待遇待課的專聘的這些老師我們會給予有關師培的這些內容的這樣的機會\n277330\t291441\t那麼委員提到這個2022年的這個新聞我不曉得因為這幾年我跟委員報告專任教師的缺額全國每年大概都開出將近5000個的缺額在聘專任教師\n294396\t321346\t除了這個事之外本期主要還是要強調屏東縣我們有200多所的學校那其中碰到的困難叫做非三非四那這個非三非四的一個認定本期認為有檢討的必要尤其我們在座的宗教兵委員非常清楚我們這個標準對於我們學校實在是非常的不盡公平尤其對於所謂一些教育資源的一些軟硬體建設真的給予很大很大的一個限制那這部分我們也要求教育部來做一個調整\n322546\t342137\t如果那個評估的指標委員覺得我們剛剛一直都在收集第一線的一些意見如果委員覺得說有一些具體認為要再做哪一個調整能夠讓屬於這樣的類型的學校也能符應這個評估這個我想委員再提供給我們陳儒部長知道我們的屏東縣的財政很困難要好好補助或不補助那真的很難辦\n346000\t349565\t教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4\n","txt":"副葵委員,我們質詢時間4分鐘,謝謝。謝謝主席,有請教育部部長。好,我們請部長。\n教育部長吳安部長我想今天我們的主題是針對偏遠地區學校發展那我想相關的軟硬體建設應該都是教育部應該要重視的我想這點部長應該認同吧是\n那我請教部長去年10月份我們小犬颱風橫掃橫春半島造成我們滿洲國中受損很嚴重那當時我們蔡英文總統在10月6號帶領我們相關的部會的同仁到屏東勘栽的時候有要求我們教育部要來支持我們滿洲國中的一個重建的計畫案那請教部長目前這個案子的進度\n委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。 委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育發展條例第八條條文修正草案案。委員柯志恩等18人擬具:「偏遠地區學校教育\n教育部立法院第11屆第1會期教育部立法院第2會期教育部立法院第3會期教育部立法院第4會期教育部立法院第5會期教育部立法院第6會期教育部立法院第7會期教育部立法院第8會期教育部立法院第9會期教育部立法院第10會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第11會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第12會期教育部立法院第13會期教育部立法院第13會期教育部立法院第14會期教育部立法院第14會期\n委員我不曉得這個學校這個地方是因為老舊還是因為颱風會造成學校重建我是對這個比較沒有我說我需要進一步了解是這個\n對,所以...因為如果是...署裡面到目前為止也沒有把這個...因為如果是災損本來就有災損的處理的機制跟費用如果是老舊重建委員那就是另外一個必須要討論的啦部長這件案子確實是因為小選颱風造成了一個颱風的一個災損那所以屏東縣政府根據小英總統在現場的指示馬上就是請學校把文也做了也刊准到我們會\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4會期教育及文化委員會第5會期教育及文化委員會第6會期教育及文化委員會第7會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第8會期教育及文化委員會第9會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第10會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第11會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會期教育及文化委員會第12會\n所以看到4月3號我們花蓮大地震之後教育部針對花蓮的學校在後重建提到馬上重寬重塑讓我們滿洲的鄉親很心酸啊一樣是地震一樣是災損卻有不一樣的處理標準請教部長難道屏東人不應該不會啦\n對屏東的學校建設教育部給予非常多的支持,包含到現在你可以跟周縣長瞭解到,因為他的財政不是很理想。只是委員講到這個個案,我必須要跟委員報告說,我再瞭解他是因為災損還是因為老舊。這個比如像花蓮女中啊,其他中小學委員所及的這個,這是因為地震,所以立刻就啟動災損,包含相關的這個費用去做處置啦。\n部長我想這個我們都有相關的媒體報道這都是小岩總統在現場當場交代的所以請教育部不要害小岩總統施行於明那因為針對我們的屏東的這個施肢因為我們有很多的偏鄉那其實很多的老師他對於所謂的一個行政負擔的比例過重常常有很多的怨言那這次我們的偏教條例上面看到所謂的一個\n要用班級書來換取老師的原文而不是考量所謂一個教學科目跟行政的部分那這部分我們教育部怎麼來做調整\n委員所提到的有關師資的這一部分確實目前我們都希望學校盡量的把這個缺有開放出來那這幾年有真的增補了很多那對於在這裡面的待遇待課的專聘的這些老師我們會給予有關師培的這些內容的這樣的機會\n那麼委員提到這個2022年的這個新聞我不曉得因為這幾年我跟委員報告專任教師的缺額全國每年大概都開出將近5000個的缺額在聘專任教師\n除了這個事之外本期主要還是要強調屏東縣我們有200多所的學校那其中碰到的困難叫做非三非四那這個非三非四的一個認定本期認為有檢討的必要尤其我們在座的宗教兵委員非常清楚我們這個標準對於我們學校實在是非常的不盡公平尤其對於所謂一些教育資源的一些軟硬體建設真的給予很大很大的一個限制那這部分我們也要求教育部來做一個調整\n如果那個評估的指標委員覺得我們剛剛一直都在收集第一線的一些意見如果委員覺得說有一些具體認為要再做哪一個調整能夠讓屬於這樣的類型的學校也能符應這個評估這個我想委員再提供給我們陳儒部長知道我們的屏東縣的財政很困難要好好補助或不補助那真的很難辦\n教育及文化委員會第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第2會期教育及文化委員會第3會期教育及文化委員會第4\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.109 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